Trayvon

[Vandy Vol]

Is it racial profiling because I know they blend in with the night better?

No, that's just a fact.  Just like their affinity of chicken is a fact.

[Snaggletiger]

Fella' was so black, he went to night school and they counted him absent.

[Saniflush]

No, that's just a fact.  Just like their affinity of chicken is a fact.

BO TIME!

[dallaswareagle]

I think my definition of racial profiling is different than what we hear in the media and amongst the more idiotic of our peers.

If you think a black guy is about to commit a crime just because he's black, that's racial profiling in my book.  I don't care what statistics say about blacks and crime, the color of a person's skin is not indicative of what they've done or are about to do.

If it's a black guy looking around suspiciously at night?  Sure, I'd be concerned that he's up to something...but I'd also have that same concern if he was white.  I'm not going to give a suspicious acting person a pass just because he's Asian and Asians statistically commit fewer crimes.

Either I have a reason to suspect them of doing something or I don't, but the color of their skin alone is not enough for suspicion in my opinion.  To me, judging a person based on skin color alone is racial profiling.

Nothing you could do if they did commit crime: They all know Kung Fu.

[Snaggletiger]

Nothing you could do if they did commit crime: They all know Kung Fu.

Yeah, and if they were Ninjas you'd never see it coming.

[dallaswareagle]

Yeah, and if they were Ninjas you'd never see it coming.

Jeez, were profiling turtles now?

[Kaos]

I think my definition of racial profiling is different than what we hear in the media and amongst the more idiotic of our peers.

If you think a black guy is about to commit a crime just because he's black, that's racial profiling in my book.  I don't care what statistics say about blacks and crime, the color of a person's skin is not indicative of what they've done or are about to do.

If it's a black guy looking around suspiciously at night?  Sure, I'd be concerned that he's up to something...but I'd also have that same concern if he was white.  I'm not going to give a suspicious acting person a pass just because he's Asian and Asians statistically commit fewer crimes.

Either I have a reason to suspect them of doing something or I don't, but the color of their skin alone is not enough for suspicion in my opinion.  To me, judging a person based on skin color alone is racial profiling.

Have you ever moved to the other side of the street because a group of Asian kids were coming your way? 

I haven't.  But I've sure as heck taken a different path when a bunch of black kids in their saggy baggy clothes were strolling in my direction.   FWIW, white kids dressed like punk gangsters may draw the same reaction.  I don't want to deal with them.

If you were a store owner would you head to the upper room with the two way mirror to watch three Japanese kids dressed in Polo and khakis shop your store?  What about the group with flat brims, pants dragging the ground and strap t-shirts?  Is that racial profiling?  Maybe the Japanese kids WERE going to rip you off and the black kids were just checking out the new shipment of pokeman cards.  But because of the statistical probability, who are you going to keep an eye on. 

Statistics exist for a reason. 

[Vandy Vol]

Have you ever moved to the other side of the street because a group of Asian kids were coming your way? 

I haven't.  But I've sure as heck taken a different path when a bunch of black kids in their saggy baggy clothes were strolling in my direction.   FWIW, white kids dressed like punk gangsters may draw the same reaction.  I don't want to deal with them.

If you were a store owner would you head to the upper room with the two way mirror to watch three Japanese kids dressed in Polo and khakis shop your store?  What about the group with flat brims, pants dragging the ground and strap t-shirts?  Is that racial profiling?  Maybe the Japanese kids WERE going to rip you off and the black kids were just checking out the new shipment of pokeman cards.  But because of the statistical probability, who are you going to keep an eye on. 

Statistics exist for a reason.

Your examples contain more than just skin color.  You're referencing clothing styles as well, which indicate a lot about a person's socioeconomic status and attitude.  Like you said, white kids can wear gangster clothes too, so that wouldn't be racial profiling.  Racial profiling would be eying the black man in the polo while ignoring the crackers with their pants around their ankles.

Also...are pokeman cards gay trading cards?  Because I've unfortunately been left out of the loop on that one.

[Snaggletiger]

Kevin Federline scares the bejeezus out of me.

[Token]

"Judge a man not by the color of his skin, but by the content of his character." 

I feel I am a great judge of character. I feel a person's actions, and the way a person dresses is a great indicator of someone's character. And I've found that profiling is very effective. Luckily for me, I don't work in an area that is heavily populated by black families. Because I'm certain that a large percentage of Americans don't actually know the real definition of racial profiling. But I profile the shit out of white people.  And I'm damn good at it.

[GH2001]

Kevin Federline scares the bejeezus out of me.

Amen brother. Add clowns and midgets to that too. Oh and also wasps. Bastards.

[Buzz Killington]

Kevin Federline scares the bejeezus out of me.

Aw, shit yeah. Federline's a scary motha, man. I mean, first of all, it suck you right in, and even if you scream, you get all that muck in your mouth...

[AUJarhead]

I feel I am a great judge of character.

And yet you still hang out on the X?

[The Prowler]

Have you ever moved to the other side of the street because a group of Asian kids were coming your way? 

I haven't.  But I've sure as heck taken a different path when a bunch of black kids in their saggy baggy clothes were strolling in my direction.   FWIW, white kids dressed like punk gangsters may draw the same reaction.  I don't want to deal with them.

If you were a store owner would you head to the upper room with the two way mirror to watch three Japanese kids dressed in Polo and khakis shop your store?  What about the group with flat brims, pants dragging the ground and strap t-shirts?  Is that racial profiling?  Maybe the Japanese kids WERE going to rip you off and the black kids were just checking out the new shipment of pokeman cards.  But because of the statistical probability, who are you going to keep an eye on. 

Statistics exist for a reason.

I've never moved to the other side of the street because of a group of black guys are walking my way...I usually yell "RED ROVER!!!" as I barrel through their line.

[Saniflush]

"Judge a man not by the color of his skin, but by the content of his character." 

I feel I am a great judge of character. I feel a person's actions, and the way a person dresses is a great indicator of someone's character. And I've found that profiling is very effective. Luckily for me, I don't work in an area that is heavily populated by black families. Because I'm certain that a large percentage of Americans don't actually know the real definition of racial profiling. But I profile the shit out of white people.  And I'm damn good at it.

Well that's because all whites are wrong.  Jeez have you learned nothing?

[AUChizad]

The guy that played Jay on 40 Year Old Virgin and Conrad in the first couple of seasons of Weeds chimes in as the voice of reason.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/romany-malco/a-message-to-trayvon-mart_b_3612231.html?utm_hp_ref=tw

A Message to Trayvon Martin Sympathizers
Posted: 07/17/2013 2:37 pm

I haven't touched on the Trayvon Martin issue because race matters in this country are the paralysis of the American people. To constructively discuss Trayvon would require empathy, introspection and an understanding of America's social and economic history. This is why the open forums we have seen thus far seem to fuel more ignorance and bias than reasonable debate.

To be brutally honest, the only reason people are even aware of Trayvon Martin is because it became a topic within mainstream news and pop culture. Meaning: News directors saw it as a profitable, sensational story. Hundreds of blacks die annually in South Side Chicago without even a blurb. Trayvon isn't in the mainstream news for any reason other than ratings and profit. The news coverage on the Zimmerman case almost implies that the killing of this young black man is somehow an anomaly and I resent that.

In this country, if it isn't streamlined through mainstream media and pop culture, it doesn't seem to warrant national debate. Our "government" continues to wreak havoc on our civil liberties and there is little to no protest from the black community because of media diversion tactics that keep such pertinent issues out of mainstream media. But if Jay-Z or Rihanna were to make mention of it, we'd suddenly be jolted out of our sugar comas and protesting on freeways.

My point being, people are up in arms about Trayvon based on regurgitated pundits and manipulated facts aired to elicit emotion while fueling America's anger and division. That's how you boost ratings. No different from Piers Morgan's desperate rant over gun control when he knew his ratings were in the dumps. And from where I stand, anyone who still relies on corporate-owned media pundits to support an argument isn't equipped to offer worthwhile solutions.

People are using Trayvon Martin's death as an excuse to project their own deep-seated issues with racism and will not be capable of intelligent, empathetic debate until they've cooled down and afforded themselves an education.

Addressing Trayvon without first addressing the absence of critical thinking in our schools, the lack of introspection, the reasons for our low tolerance and our country's skewed value system does nothing more than create a sounding board for the ignorant. So rather than facilitate more racism outcry, I'd like to address young black people specifically.

I believe we lost that trial for Trayvon long before he was killed. Trayvon was doomed the moment ignorance became synonymous with young black America . We lost that case by using media outlets (music, movies, social media, etc.) as vehicles to perpetuate the same negative images and social issues that destroyed the black community in the first place. When we went on record glorifying violent crime and when we voted for a president we never thought to hold accountable. When we signed on to do reality shows that fed into the media's stereotypes of black men, we ingrained an image of Trayvon Martin so overwhelming that who he actually may have been didn't matter anymore.

Don't you find it peculiar that the same media outlets who have worked so diligently to galvanize the negative stigmas of black men in America are now airing open debates on improving the image of black males in American media? Do you honestly think CNN is using their competitive time slots for philanthropy?

"You never want a serious crisis to go to waste." - Rahm Emanuel

If we really wanted to ensure Trayvon Martin's killing was not in vain, we'd stop perpetuating negative images that are now synonymous with black men in America. We'd stop rapping about selling drugs and killing niggas. The next time we saw a man beating a woman, we'd call for help or break it up, but one thing we would not do is stand by with our cellphones out -- yelling WORLDSTAR! Instead of rewarding kids for memorization, we'd reward them for independent and critical thinking.

We'd spend less time subconsciously repeating lyrics about death and murder and more time understanding why we are so willing to twerk to songs that bemean women and boast of having things we cannot afford. We'd set examples of self-love for our youth by honoring our own hair, skin and eye color. We'd stop spending money on designer gear that we should be spending on our physical and psychological health. We'd seek information outside the corporate owned-media that manipulates us. We'd stop letting television babysit our kids and we'd quit regurgitating pundits we haven't come up with on our own.

Education, introspection, self-love and excellence are the only ways to overcome the wrath of ignorance. So before going back to popping molly and getting Turnt Up, I urge you to consider the implications of your actions. Your child's life may depend on it.

[Saniflush]

Damnit Zimmerman and his thuggery.....


http://www.ijreview.com/2013/07/67266-zimmerman-emerges-from-hiding-for-heroic-rescue/


I bet it was staged.

[AWK]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-emerged-hiding-rescue-family-trapped-suv/story?id=19735432

[Townhallsavoy]

George Zimmerman and Cam Newton could be friends.

Well, until Zimmerman murdered him of course.

[dallaswareagle]

Damnit Zimmerman and his thuggery.....


http://www.ijreview.com/2013/07/67266-zimmerman-emerges-from-hiding-for-heroic-rescue/


I bet it was staged.

Only way to tell if it was staged?  What color were the people in the car?