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« Reply #40 on: February 14, 2012, 09:31:01 AM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Martinez_%28American_football%29
Meh. Was he fired at Oklahoma? My understanding is that he "resigned" much in the same way Ted Roof "resigned".

A good position coach doesn't always make a good coordinator, like THS said, him and the stache used to wreck shit at UGA.  I will take him.

Coach Martinez (DB Coach), Coach Thigpen (LB Coach).....BOOM!!!!

Heard the same thing last night which makes me happy.  It puts Thig back to what he has always coached and it give BVG the ability to be a roaming coordinator.   
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« Reply #41 on: February 14, 2012, 09:34:25 AM »
WM = good/decent DB coach

WM = NOT a good DC

^^^This^^^
He and VanGorder worked well together at UGA, so hopefully they can find a good spot for Thigpen now.
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« Reply #42 on: February 14, 2012, 09:41:25 AM »
WM = good/decent DB coach

WM = NOT a good DC
I don't recall Oklahoma's secondary being forces of destruction. Especially not in that OK State game...
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« Reply #43 on: February 14, 2012, 09:47:03 AM »
The good news is that a dawgie fan posted earlier on ITAT that Martinez was a proponent of coaching the DBs to play the receiver's eyes...not to look back for the ball.  The learning curve won't be as difficult at least...
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« Reply #44 on: February 14, 2012, 09:58:42 AM »
I don't recall Oklahoma's secondary being forces of destruction. Especially not in that OK State game...

If what wench is saying is correct (and I think it is), he would have been already halfway out the door at the time of Bedlam. A good coach can look bad if the chemistry isn't there, morale is low, etc. We, as Auburn fans, should know that as good as anyone. His entire body of work is pretty decent. Notice, I didn't say excellent coach, I said good/decent. He is an upgrade over what we had.  And BVG certainly is an improvement.

BVG/WM > Roof/Lolley

EDIT: I see where WM's secondary at Oklahoma was ranked #23 nationally in Pass D Eff. It was top 20 before the Okl State game. Auburn was 86th.
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« Reply #45 on: February 14, 2012, 10:06:46 AM »
My opinion has pretty much been stated by others. Maybe the guy just feels better as a position coach who knows but I will say that he has done pretty well for himself in that position. You take that and add with the fact that Thig can go back to coaching the LB's and that the VG/Willie combo is together again, I certainly think we will see a VAST improvement in the Auburn D.
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« Reply #46 on: February 14, 2012, 10:08:17 AM »
Are we allowed to use the term Coach Taco here?
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« Reply #47 on: February 14, 2012, 10:09:57 AM »
Wait he has worked with Van Stache before?  I thought coordinators weren't allowed to bring in their own people?

WTF is going down on the plains?
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« Reply #48 on: February 14, 2012, 10:11:56 AM »
Wait he has worked with Van Stache before?  I thought coordinators weren't allowed to bring in their own people?

WTF is going down on the plains?

It's pandemonium down there...just a matter of time before the NCAA puts the hammer to them.
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« Reply #49 on: February 14, 2012, 10:13:16 AM »
Are we allowed to use the term Coach Taco here?

I thought on the X we can call them whatever the fuck we want to.
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« Reply #50 on: February 14, 2012, 10:25:57 AM »
I thought on the X we can call them whatever the fuck we want to.

Correct response. 

Wait he has worked with Van Stache before?  I thought coordinators weren't allowed to bring in their own people?

WTF is going down on the plains?

They aren't dammit! The HC does the hiring and firing! All of it! This is bullshit!
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« Reply #51 on: February 14, 2012, 10:56:00 AM »
Correct response. 

They aren't dammit! The HC does the hiring and firing! All of it! This is bullshit!

This can't go unnoticed. Joe Schad will be on this in a minute.

Its crazy down there at the Barn. Them aubs are the most corrupt there is.
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« Reply #52 on: February 14, 2012, 01:50:22 PM »
WM = good/decent DB coach

WM = NOT a good DC

Except for 2009, when UGA was mediocre to teh suxxors on both sides of the ball, his defensive numbers were pretty solid.  Even in 2009, they weren't Auburn/Roof like suckage.
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« Reply #53 on: February 14, 2012, 02:05:12 PM »
Wasn't he a pretty good recruiter for UGA as well....that means something doesn't it?  I mean I know recruiting isn't important and all...
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« Reply #54 on: February 14, 2012, 02:10:19 PM »
Wasn't he a pretty good recruiter for UGA as well....that means something doesn't it?  I mean I know recruiting isn't important and all...

He's not much for the X's and O's.  Martinez will bring in the Jimmy's and Joe's.
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« Reply #55 on: February 14, 2012, 02:12:08 PM »
Except for 2009, when UGA was mediocre to teh suxxors on both sides of the ball, his defensive numbers were pretty solid.  Even in 2009, they weren't Auburn/Roof like suckage.

Correct. Even as a DC he wasn't "Roof" bad. I remember his D's having a habit of giving up long plays in crucial times.
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« Reply #56 on: February 14, 2012, 02:16:19 PM »
Correct. Even as a DC he wasn't "Roof" bad. I remember his D's having a habit of giving up long plays in crucial times.

If he can bring this to the table at Auburn, we're in for an exciting time.

Wait.
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« Reply #57 on: February 14, 2012, 02:22:41 PM »
If he can bring this to the table at Auburn, we're in for an exciting time.

Wait.


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« Reply #59 on: February 14, 2012, 02:54:38 PM »
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