Every Game Counts

[AUChizad]

I know. But it still doesn't mean that Alabama can't be the second best team in the country. And in the system which we have, the #1 and #2 teams play for the NCG. It just so happens that a bunch of teams in the top 10 shit the bed all at the same time and a damn near impossible scenario took place to make this happen.

So why aren't we having OSU & Bama go head to head for #2, and just give LSU the trophy now?

Your response has nothing to do with what I said. You suggested that OSU get a pass because their loss to ISU is probably an anomaly. You're giving one team a pass for losing to a shitty team, while holding a loss to the #1 team in the country against the other, all the while telling that other team that it is impossible for them to be second best because they couldn't beat the best.

You can't be this retarded. Magically erase both Bama's loss and ISU's loss. Because they are anomalies. Outliers. What are you left with? Bama 10-0 with a win over Arkansas and nobody else worth a shit. Oklahoma State 10-0 with wins over Texas A&M, Texas, Baylor, Kansas State, Missouri, and Oklahoma. If you want to take out the best and worst games to eliminate the outliers on both ends, it's even worse for Bama.

[JR4AU]

I know. But it still doesn't mean that Alabama can't be the second best team in the country. And in the system which we have, the #1 and #2 teams play for the NCG. It just so happens that a bunch of teams in the top 10 shit the bed all at the same time and a damn near impossible scenario took place to make this happen.

Your response has nothing to do with what I said. You suggested that OSU get a pass because their loss to ISU is probably an anomaly. You're giving one team a pass for losing to a shitty team, while holding a loss to the #1 team in the country against the other, all the while telling that other team that it is impossible for them to be second best because they couldn't beat the best.

Christ on a jet ski, you are dense and a simple minded fuck.

[AUTiger1]

It really is a total sham. 

I wish I could bring myself to ignore bowl season.  Just watch football for rivalries and the SEC championship race and then call it a season.

Not gonna lie, this year I watched every second of AU that I could, the game of the century and bits and pieces of of other games.  I mostly caught highlights ard parts of games.   I have that "me against the world" mentality this year.  Fuck'em all, except Vandy, Troy and Southern Miss and only if they aren't playing us.  If they are, fuck them too!

Magically erase both Bama's loss and ISU's loss. Because they are anomalies. Outliers. What are you left with? Bama 10-0 with a win over Arkansas and nobody else worth a shit. Oklahoma State 10-0 with wins over Texas A&M, Texas, Baylor, Kansas State, Missouri, and Oklahoma. If you want to take out the best and worst games to eliminate the outliers on both ends, it's even worse for Bama.

^^This part,  I know that ISU was a bad loss where losing to LSU looks better, but the fact remains if you take away both loses and look at their body of work, OSUs body of work looks better.  Add the loses back in and OSUs body of work still looks better.   

[AUChizad]

^^This part,  I know that ISU was a bad loss where losing to LSU looks better, but the fact remains if you take away both loses and look at their body of work, OSUs body of work looks better.  Add the loses back in and OSUs body of work still looks better.

Exactly. You can slice and dice that onion 100 different ways, and OSU's body of work looks better in all of them.

And have I mentioned that BAMA ALREADY LOST TO LSU HEAD-TO-HEAD?!?!?

[RWS]

You can't be this retarded. Magically erase both Bama's loss and ISU's loss. Because they are anomalies. Outliers. What are you left with? Bama 10-0 with a win over Arkansas and nobody else worth a shit. Oklahoma State 10-0 with wins over Texas A&M, Texas, Baylor, Kansas State, Missouri, and Oklahoma. If you want to take out the best and worst games to eliminate the outliers on both ends, it's even worse for Bama.

For the first time in any of these threads, you have finally applied the same rules and logic to BOTH teams, instead of picking and choosing. My issue with what JR said is he only mentioned OSU's loss to ISU being an anomaly, implying that it should be forgiven. Unfortunately, there is no such luxury. I've said it before, I wouldn't have minded if Alabama got left out. Certainly would have understood if that's the way the rankings came out. But to say they should be left out because of some rules that don't exist, and logic applied to one team but not the other is horseshit.

You have to count who they won against, and who they lost to. When you have a strong SOS but lost to a shit team, that will negate some of that SOS. There has to be accountability. You have to combine the good and bad, not ignore the bad while only taking the good. 

[Token]

Strength of schedule is a stupid argument.  How can we say that 6-6 Texas A&M is a quality win but 6-6 Vandy isn't?  Did the teams play each other?  What about 10-2 Kansas St vs 10-2 Arkansas?  Or 9-3 Baylor vs 9-3 Penn State?  How about 2-10 Kansas vs 2-10 Ole Miss?  We could literally go through every team and say the same thing.  As I've already shown, Bama's opponents have a better record than OSU's opponents. 

SOS is a stupid argument to make.  A playoff is the only way to solve this, but there is still going to be an argument about who gets in the playoff and who doesn't.  4 team playoff includes Stanford and dismisses Oregon?  Still flawed. 

What about all conference champs and 2 at large spots?  That still isn't putting the best 8 teams in the playoff.  Flawed. 

[Kaos]

It's time to ban the goat fucker. 

[djsimp]

It's time to ban the goat fucker.

What, no pics?

[Kaos]

What, no pics?

Unworthy at the moment.  The goat fucker finally convinced me that it is actually mentally retarded. 

[djsimp]

Unworthy at the moment.  The goat fucker finally convinced me that it is actually mentally retarded.

If I knew that searching for a mentally retarded dude bumping uglies with a goat wouldn't infect my machine with some weird fucked up virus, I would do it.

[Kaos]

For the first time in any of these threads, you have finally applied the same rules and logic to BOTH teams, instead of picking and choosing. My issue with what JR said is he only mentioned OSU's loss to ISU being an anomaly, implying that it should be forgiven. Unfortunately, there is no such luxury. I've said it before, I wouldn't have minded if Alabama got left out. Certainly would have understood if that's the way the rankings came out. But to say they should be left out because of some rules that don't exist, and logic applied to one team but not the other is horseshit.

You have to count who they won against, and who they lost to. When you have a strong SOS but lost to a shit team, that will negate some of that SOS. There has to be accountability. You have to combine the good and bad, not ignore the bad while only taking the good.

[JR4AU]

Strength of schedule is a stupid argument.  How can we say that 6-6 Texas A&M is a quality win but 6-6 Vandy isn't?  Did the teams play each other?  What about 10-2 Kansas St vs 10-2 Arkansas?  Or 9-3 Baylor vs 9-3 Penn State?  How about 2-10 Kansas vs 2-10 Ole Miss?  We could literally go through every team and say the same thing.  As I've already shown, Bama's opponents have a better record than OSU's opponents. 

SOS is a stupid argument to make.  A playoff is the only way to solve this, but there is still going to be an argument about who gets in the playoff and who doesn't.  4 team playoff includes Stanford and dismisses Oregon?  Still flawed. 

What about all conference champs and 2 at large spots?  That still isn't putting the best 8 teams in the playoff.  Flawed.

The only thing more stupider than those arguments: Arguing bammer should get a second chance at LSU, and this time for all the marbles.  Whore Shit! 

[JR4AU]

[AUChizad]

What about all conference champs and 2 at large spots?  That still isn't putting the best 8 teams in the playoff.  Flawed.

Maybe not by your "Bama deserves to be in by-God" argument, but by sound, logical, reason, it does. The conference championships are the only thing close to fair in this fucked up system we call college football.

Do as you described above, and that is as fair as fair gets.

[noxin]

If I knew that searching for a mentally retarded dude bumping uglies with a goat wouldn't infect my machine with some weird fudgeed up virus, I would do it.

Careful. I ended up here after a search for "uncensored tiger sex"

[djsimp]

Careful. I ended up here after a search for "uncensored tiger sex"

Well then I hope Xanusus was not the first of us you came across.

[War Eagle!!!]

Careful. I ended up here after a search for "uncensored tiger sex"

+2

[Token]

Maybe not by your "Bama deserves to be in by-God" argument, but by sound, logical, reason, it does. The conference championships are the only thing close to fair in this fucked up system we call college football.

Do as you described above, and that is as fair as fair gets.

I'm going to assume that in your 6 conference champion format, they'd make new conferences?  If not, here is the bullshit playoff format that you think would put the best 8 of the 120 into the post season.

1. LSU  13-0 (SEC)
2. Oklahoma State  11-1 (Big XII)
3. Oregon  11-2 (Pac 12)
4. Wisconsin 11-2 (Big 10)
5. Clemson 10-3 (ACC)
6. West Virginia 9-3 (Big East)

Leaving the at large selections out, you really think this format would put the most deserving teams into the playoff?  The team ranked #23 with 3 losses makes the playoff?  They deserve it?  This year they are all ranked, last year UCONN would have made the post season with an 8-4 record.   Having a 3 or 4 loss team making the playoffs over teams with 1 or 2 losses is better for college football?

That's a worse idea than what we have now.  That might be the worst idea that I've seen. 

[Token]

Petty bullshit aside, why would a 16 team playoff not work?  Top 16 teams (which still has to come from polls?) would mean a 4 week playoff.  Fuck the bowls, higher ranked team would host each week until the championship game, which would be played at a neutral site. 

Cut the regular season down to 10 games.  Problem would be with playoff dates because of mid terms and holidays, but it would be a hell of a lot better than what we have now and I think it would be more fair than taking a lower ranked team over a higher ranked team like the BCS bowl selections.  Of course, bowls would be super pissed about the revenue they'd lose.

[wesfau2]

Well then I hope Xanusus was not the first of us you came across.

Nah, I think he got you on the chin first.