Every Game Counts

[AUChizad]

[GH2001]

Nice illustration actually. I like it.

[The Six]

"Gerogia"

Did 'Rent Richardson help with this?

Nice illustration though.

[Token]

What am I missing?  Does Iowa State not play football?  Is that why no one seems to mention that loss?

[Townhallsavoy]

What am I missing?  Does Iowa State not play football?  Is that why no one seems to mention that loss?

It's one of those games that doesn't count.  Like Alabama-LA Monroe. 

Or Alabama-Southern Miss.  Or Alabama-Northern Illinois.  Or Alabama-Utah.  Or Alabama-LA Tech.  Or Alabama-LA Tech.

Or Alabama-Carlisle Indian School.

[Token]

It's one of those games that doesn't count.  Like Alabama-LA Monroe. 

Or Alabama-Southern Miss.  Or Alabama-Northern Illinois.  Or Alabama-Utah.  Or Alabama-LA Tech.  Or Alabama-LA Tech.

Or Alabama-Carlisle Indian School.

No, no, those are the games that DO count.  It's all the wins surrounding those games that don't count.  You know, NCAA and all.

But it interesting that you'd compare OSU's loss to ISU with some of the most shitty Alabama teams to ever take the field. 

[The Prowler]

No, no, those are the games that DO count.  It's all the wins surrounding those games that don't count.  You know, NCAA and all.

But it interesting that you'd compare OSU's loss to ISU with some of the most shitty Alabama teams to ever take the field.

Maybe you should go back and check your history, also check the pre-season mags of those years.

[AUJarhead]

But it interesting that you'd compare OSU's loss to ISU with some of the most shitty Alabama teams to ever take the field.

Alabama/Utah was shitty?  Christ, man, you guys lost 2 games that year.

[Token]

Alabama/Utah was shitty?  Christ, man, you guys lost 2 games that year.

I actually didn't get past Louisiana Monroe.  He slip that one in on me, but it's a shitty comparison on his part.  Utah made a BCS bowl, they didn't go 6-6.

Maybe you should go back and check your history, also check the pre-season mags of those years.

Really?  Pre-season mags? 

[AUChizad]

Alabama/Utah was shitty?  Christ, man, you guys lost 2 games that year.

Utah only beats them when they're down.

[Godfather]

Again you lost one game...they lost one game.  Their overall body of work is better than yourn!

Anything other than that is completely subjective.  You can't say you are better team then them they played a harder schedule.  You would think you guys would be used to the tainted championship talk by now, what with the 115th on the line in January.

This really isn't a hard concept to grasp.  Seems like everyone in the nation seems to get it except bamers.

[Token]

Again you lost one game...they lost one game.  Their overall body of work is better than yourn!

This really isn't a hard concept to grasp.  Seems like everyone in the nation seems to get it except bamers.

I get it, but did you see Iowa State on that bracket?  No?  That's because everyone who is against the rematch refuses to acknowledge the ISU game. 

Anything other than that is completely subjective.  You can't say you are better team then them they played a harder schedule.  You would think you guys would be used to the tainted championship talk by now, what with the 115th on the line in January.

The subjective argument goes both ways, but it's only being argued in favor of OSU.  If Auburn was in this situation, not a single one of you would be protesting this game.  You wouldn't be getting a petition signed to keep Auburn out of the game, and you wouldn't be saying that another team was screwed by biased voters.  You'd be pointing out that OSU was ranked #2, and lost to a shit team late in the season.  They should have dropped, and whomever was ranked #3 should have moved up. 

OSU is not in the game because they couldn't beat a 6-6 team when it mattered.  They controlled their destiny and fucked the duck.  Not the #3 ranked team's fault.  Not the voter's fault.  OSU's fault.  That also isn't hard to grasp, but it's being ignored like a motherfucker.

[Townhallsavoy]

I actually didn't get past Louisiana Monroe.  He slip that one in on me, but it's a shitty comparison on his part.  Utah made a BCS bowl, they didn't go 6-6.

Really?  Pre-season mags?

What kind of historical, traditional powerhouse loses to Camp Gordon, GA? 

Who loses 44-0 to Cumberland, TN? 

Who gets embarrassed 35-19 to the Georgia Navy Pre Flight Academy?  In Birmingham no less!

What kind of program gets shut out to the University of New Orleans in football?

What kind of SEC team goes oh-fer-three against Rice?

I'm done.  I'm done with you and your ilk.  You all disgust me.  How you show your face after embarrassing performances like that.  Worst losses in history.  I'm done.  I'm finished.  It's over.  It's over, man.

[Godfather]

I get it, but did you see Iowa State on that bracket?  No?  That's because everyone who is against the rematch refuses to acknowledge the ISU game. 

The subjective argument goes both ways, but it's only being argued in favor of OSU.  If Auburn was in this situation, not a single one of you would be protesting this game.

Uhh no we are Auburn fans. It also doesn't mean that we deserved to be there and I am sure bama fans and the rest of the country would let us know.

You wouldn't be getting a petition signed to keep Auburn out of the game, and you wouldn't be saying that another team was screwed by biased voters.

You tell me how there wasn't bias when your own coach votes and other folks have OSU at #5 or #6 come on Token you are better than that, There is extreme bias with the polls.

You'd be pointing out that OSU was ranked #2, and lost to a shit team late in the season.  They should have dropped, and whomever was ranked #3 should have moved up. 

This part is true, however, again for not a couple of voters who had their own "agenda" are you sure your #2 ranking would have held up?

OSU is not in the game because they couldn't beat a 6-6 team when it mattered.  They controlled their destiny and fucked the duck.  Not the #3 ranked team's fault.  Not the voter's fault.  OSU's fault.  That also isn't hard to grasp, but it's being ignored like a motherfucker.

Last time I checked you also lost one game, because you couldn't beat them at home when it mattered. Except you get a second chance to try and win, that isn't OSU's fault. When do they get their chance?  Don't act like y'all are undefeated...bama lost too, but you and RWS seem to ignore that.  By the way I don't think anything is being ignored when it comes to bammer seeing as how you are in the game.  You just don't deserve to be there is all.

[Token]

Uhh no we are Auburn fans.
You tell me how there wasn't bias when your own coach votes and other folks have OSU at #5 or #6 come on Token you are better than that, There is extreme bias with the polls.

Oklahoma was #2 at one point.  Where did those agenda pushing voters have them ranked before they lost to an unranked team with 2 weeks left in the season?  My guess is they had them at #2 where they belonged.  Then they lost.  Not to a great team.  Not to a good team.  To Iowa State.

Last time I checked you also lost one game, because you couldn't beat them at home when it mattered.

Absolutely correct.  Bama lost and needed Oregon, Stanford and Oklahoma State to fuck up for a chance to get back in with less than a month left.  And this same instance happens every year.  You lose late, and you're out.  Bama lost late, and they were out.  Then, AFTER Bama lost late, other people also lost later than Bama.

Don't act like y'all are undefeated...bama lost too, but you and RWS seem to ignore that.  By the way I don't think anything is being ignored when it comes to bammer seeing as how you are in the game.  You just don't deserve to be there is all.

I haven't denied yet that Alabama lost.  I know they did, and the day after I believe I posted here that they didn't deserve a rematch, because other teams had better records.  Then those teams shit the bed.  What?  Alabama shouldn't be allowed to move back up because they already played LSU? 

And for the record.......

Alabama's opponents record for the season?  84-61
Oklahoma State's opponents record for the season?  81-63

But holy fuck OSU's SOS is sooooo much better.

[Godfather]

Record
Alabama 11-1
Oklahoma State 11-1

SOS
Alabama 23
Oklahoma State 6

Record versus Sagarin top 10
Alabama 1-1
Oklahoma State 2-0

Record versus Sagarin top 30
Alabama 2-1
Oklahoma State 6-1

Sagarin Conference Ratings
Big 12 #1
SEC #2

[Token]

Record
Alabama 11-1
Oklahoma State 11-1

SOS
Alabama 23
Oklahoma State 6

Record versus Sagarin top 10
Alabama 1-1
Oklahoma State 2-0

Record versus Sagarin top 30
Alabama 2-1
Oklahoma State 6-1

Sagarin Conference Ratings
Big 12 #1
SEC #2

The computers are biased.  Unless they aren't. 

Sagarin final ranking
2  Alabama              A  =  98.99   11   1   
3  Oklahoma State       A  =  97.31   11   1

[Godfather]

Oklahoma was #2 at one point.  Where did those agenda pushing voters have them ranked before they lost to an unranked team with 2 weeks left in the season?  My guess is they had them at #2 where they belonged.  Then they lost.  Not to a great team.  Not to a good team.  To Iowa State.


Absolutely correct.  Bama lost and needed Oregon, Stanford and Oklahoma State to fuck up for a chance to get back in with less than a month left.  And this same instance happens every year.  You lose late, and you're out.  Bama lost late, and they were out.  Then, AFTER Bama lost late, other people also lost later than Bama.

I haven't denied yet that Alabama lost.  I know they did, and the day after I believe I posted here that they didn't deserve a rematch, because other teams had better records.  Then those teams shit the bed.  What?  Alabama shouldn't be allowed to move back up because they already played LSU? 

And for the record.......

Alabama's opponents record for the season?  84-61
Oklahoma State's opponents record for the season?  81-63

But holy fuck OSU's SOS is sooooo much better.

BTW all subjective...still doesn't mean you deserve to be there.

[Godfather]

The computers are biased. 

Shouldn't you be out beating hookers?

[Token]

BTW all subjective...still doesn't mean you deserve to be there.

Also doesn't mean OSU deserves to be there.

Shouldn't you be out beating hookers?

Probably, but I'd rather argue about pointless bullshit on the interwebz.