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The momentum begins to swing...
« on: December 02, 2011, 11:12:56 AM »
But will it be enough?

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http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/7302138/rick-reilly-no-rematch-bcs-title-game

Been there done that

Man, these SEC fans are good. The hate email came in before the column was even finished.

Hey Reilly:

I hope you get gangrene on your nose. Your so-called "article" ridiculing an LSU-Alabama rematch for the national championship was stupid. Just because you thought the first one was "boring" does not mean these are not the two best teams. Go back to your spider hole.

--Jimmy Tomjack, Birmingham, Ala.


The first LSU-Alabama game was more boring than Tim Tebow's porn stash. To play another one will be like remaking "J. Edgar" or attending a goiter convention.

But that's not why there should be no Dullapalooza II on Jan. 9 in the Superdome. There shouldn't be one because it makes the BCS honchos liars. This is their Twitter handle: @EveryGameCounts. But how can every game count if it doesn't matter who won the first one?

If you remember, LSU won the first game -- which resembled hippos taking a mud bath -- 9-6 (in OT, no less), in Tuscaloosa. Didn't hurt the Tide any. They're going to get a mulligan if we don't stop it. You have to figure, too, that, if Alabama had won, then LSU would only have one loss and the Tigers would get the redo. This is because, apparently, no conference can really play football in this country except the SEC, which invented the sport in 2006.

Meanwhile, four one-loss teams that didn't get two shots at the title will be playing in the Black Friday Pepper Spray Bowl. Afterward, they'll tweet about it at @EveryGameCountsUnlessAnSECTeamLoses.


Dear Communist:
You have the brains of half a worm. It's true that Alabama didn't qualify for their own conference title game, but they're still the second-best team in the country by a country mile. Go drink a can of Raid.

--Jacktom Jimmy, Tuscaloosa, Ala.


Sorry. Alabama playing in the title game is bonkers. A team that didn't even make its conference title game will be playing in the national title game? It's like Rick Perry withdrawing from the primaries and then going up against President Obama.

But imagine how idiotic this system is through LSU's binoculars. While the Bayou Bengals are beating their brains out against Georgia in the conference title game this Saturday at the Georgia Dome -- aka, the crime scene -- Alabama will be enjoying chicken wings and "Tosh.0" reruns and resting up.

"I won't lie to you," Alabama linebacker Dont'a Hightower told The Associated Press. "It's going to be good to get a week off. A lot of guys are banged up."

Welcome to BCS logic.

Of course, if Alabama wins Walking Dead II, the Tide will be … what? National champions? How? They'll have one loss, same as all the other contenders. They'll have split the home-and-home series with LSU. They won't even have won their SEC division, much less their conference. Yet they could wind up petting the crystal football.

Wouldn't that be special?

Yo, jackwagon:

You rail against a rematch, but who would you rather have play LSU? There's nobody else. Even No. 3 Oklahoma State coach Mike Gundy said this week that he wouldn't vote his team No. 2. Go pound tumbleweeds.

--Tommy Jim, Jackson, Ala.


Whom would I rather see? Any team that hasn't already blown its chance.


Because of a flawed BCS system, we may never know if Kellen Moore and Boise State could hang with LSU.
LSU vs. Oklahoma State (if the Cowboys beat Oklahoma on Saturday) would be tasty. And Gundy did say he'd consider his team for No. 2 if it beat OU.

Just to introduce you to OSU. An offense that scores approximately every 11.3 seconds. A strength of schedule ranked 10th, compared with Alabama's at 38th. A team whose only loss was in double overtime to Iowa State the same week an OSU school plane crashed, killing two women's basketball coaches. A school that beat five teams with winning records to Alabama's three. A team with four wins over BCS top 25 teams to Alabama's two. Hello?

Or what about Stanford-LSU? Like the Houndstooths, the Cardinal only have one loss, theirs to an Oregon team faster than 4G. You don't think a Stanford team led by Heisman Trophy shoo-in QB Andrew Luck wouldn't make any SEC defense wonder whether to scream or go bowling?

What about LSU-Virginia Tech? The Hokies' only loss was to Clemson, which they could avenge Saturday in the ACC title game.

Or LSU vs. one-loss Boise State? The Broncos fell to TCU by just one point. You SEC fans remember Boise State, right? It went down south in Week 1 and beat Georgia? Georgia, the team that's one win from claiming your most holy and exalted SEC title?

With all these deserving teams, you still think Alabama should get another chance? You want Kris Humphries and Kim Kardashian to remarry, too?

This SEC bias has to stop. The world of college football doesn't end at the Louisiana border.

The Rematch should make you want to Regurgitate. Two-thirds of the rankings are based on humans. Voters, be fair. We played this one already, and Alabama lost.

What, your TiVo broke?
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Re: The momentum begins to swing...
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2011, 11:25:11 AM »
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Re: The momentum begins to swing...
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2011, 11:33:00 AM »
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Yo, jackwagon

If you are gonna address the article like that in public, then please don't put that you are from AL....PLEASE!
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Re: The momentum begins to swing...
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2011, 11:35:47 AM »
Funny

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If you remember, LSU won the first game -- which resembled hippos taking a mud bath
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Re: The momentum begins to swing...
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2011, 11:44:38 AM »
Only gripe is he is lumping all SEC fans together with what is clearly exclusively Bammer dipshits.

The rest of us don't want a rematch either.
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Re: The momentum begins to swing...
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2011, 02:23:07 PM »
http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2011/12/2/2605339/alabama-stands-alone-for-sanity-and-reason

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Alabama Stands Alone For Sanity And Reason

by Spencer Hall • Dec 2, 2011 8:55 AM EST

The BCS is one of the most successful events in the history of college football. I know this because I read their website, and if it is on the internet, it must be true. If you don't believe this, you can "check your facts," another thing I saw someone say on the internet to an argument they did not like. The internet is great at rhetorical flourishes like this, along with pictures of dogs bathing and informative arguments about religion.

It's a shame that so many people do not think the BCS works, but there is one place that has not forsaken sanity, reason, and the rule of logic. It's after the jump, but when you see it, you will not be surprised.



As always, Alabama must take the rest of the country by the nose and lead it to the future. It's not easy taking the unpopular stand, especially when it benefits you in no way whatsoever, but the Yellowhammer State has never been about what's right for them. It's about what's right for America, and if you don't understand that there's a frozen moose parlor called Canada you might wanna look into, buddy.*

*This has nothing to do with Alabama getting a rematch against LSU in the BCS. Hush, you.
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Re: The momentum begins to swing...
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2011, 02:33:51 PM »
It's not paranoia when everybody else is really against you. 

Being alone in your stance doesn't de facto make you right because you say so. 
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Re: The momentum begins to swing...
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2011, 02:46:40 PM »
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Re: The momentum begins to swing...
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2011, 07:03:13 PM »
Nobody wants it. 

By a wide margin people would prefer Saints/Packers again in the Superbowl

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/fp/flashPollResultsState?sportIndex=frontpage&pollId=128016
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« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2011, 07:14:55 PM »
LSU winning doesn't help.

Oklahoma State still has a shot to jump them if Virginia Tech loses and Oklahoma State wins convincingly. 

Look at how close Oklahoma State is to Alabama:

Computer Rankings:

Alabama - .950
Oklahoma St - .930

You have to think Oklahoma State jumps Alabama if they win. 

Harris Poll:

Alabama - 2 (2715 points which equals .9586)
Oklahoma St - 5 (2414 points which equals .8397)

Coaches Poll:

Alabama - 2 (1411 points which equals .9566)
Oklahoma St - 5 (1245 points which equals .8441)

This averages out to Alabama - .9551 and Oklahoma St - .8712.

I doubt the coaches poll does a lot of thinking when it votes.  If Virginia Tech loses, Oklahoma State moves up to #4 and gets a few more points.

But the Harris Poll is where the drama can happen.  Teams get more points for having #2 rankings.  So if a few voters really want Oklahoma State to play LSU, they can vote Oklahoma State #2 even if they don't believe it's accurate. 

All Oklahoma State has to do is win and sway a few Harris Poll voters to put them at #2. 

I'm holding out hope........
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Re: The momentum begins to swing...
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2011, 07:31:48 PM »
I'm not too terribly worried about OSU. They haven't beaten Oklahoma since 2002. Even if they win, I don't see it being an ass beating. What will be really interesting is if OSU loses, who some of you will propose to play LSU out of the 1 loss teams. Especially seeing as how some have been screaming about how OSU's SOS is better than Bama's, so that's why they should go ahead of Bama. There will be no other 1 loss teams in the top 25 with a SOS better than Bama's if OSU loses.

If OSU wins and the voters decide they should go? Well, so be it.
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« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2011, 07:45:00 PM »
I'm not too terribly worried about OSU. They haven't beaten Oklahoma since 2002. Even if they win, I don't see it being an ass beating. What will be really interesting is if OSU loses, who some of you will propose to play LSU out of the 1 loss teams. Especially seeing as how some have been screaming about how OSU's SOS is better than Bama's, so that's why they should go ahead of Bama. There will be no other 1 loss teams in the top 25 with a SOS better than Bama's if OSU loses.

If OSU wins and the voters decide they should go? Well, so be it.

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Re: The momentum begins to swing...
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2011, 08:28:54 PM »
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Re: The momentum begins to swing...
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2011, 09:27:32 PM »
Might have jinxed the whole damn thing. OSU is about to go up 17-0 on OU. Their stadium is fucking INSANE right now.

I still think OU will come back in the second half and make a game out of it, though. Not sure if they can pull out a win.
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« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2011, 09:39:58 PM »
Might have jinxed the whole damn thing. OSU is about to go up 17-0 on OU. Their stadium is fucking INSANE right now.

I still think OU will come back in the second half and make a game out of it, though. Not sure if they can pull out a win.
Worried yet bro?

Btw my only other team would be Virginia Tech if they win their conference. bammer would go after those two. Imo
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« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2011, 09:41:36 PM »
 OSU goes up 24-0 with 1:05 left in the first half. Could be interesting if they post a 45-7 type whipping on No. 10 Oklahoma.
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Re: The momentum begins to swing...
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2011, 09:48:26 PM »
OSU goes up 24-0 with 1:05 left in the first half. Could be interesting if they post a 45-7 type whipping on No. 10 Oklahoma.
If that happens, taking the Crimson glasses off for a minute, I just can't see them putting Bama ahead of OSU. Bama is idle, and OSU is depantsing the #10 team in the country. If they curb stomp OU, that will take away some of the negative from the ISU loss. The question is, how much? I think OU can come back and make a game out of this, but I'm just not so sure they can pull out a win.
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Re: The momentum begins to swing...
« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2011, 09:58:19 PM »
I think the media wants to avoid this -

But how much was the death of the women's basketball coach a factor in the Iowa St loss?  Didn't it happen on the same day as the game? 

Should that be considered when casting a vote? 

And what about that field goal in overtime of that game?  Looked good to me.  Called no good by the refs.
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Re: The momentum begins to swing...
« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2011, 10:05:13 PM »
I think the media wants to avoid this -

But how much was the death of the women's basketball coach a factor in the Iowa St loss?  Didn't it happen on the same day as the game? 

Should that be considered when casting a vote? 

And what about that field goal in overtime of that game?  Looked good to me.  Called no good by the refs.
If Alabama had somebody that could kick a field goal, they could have won. Should that be considered? Alabama's long snapper Carson Tinker lost his girlfriend in the tornado. Should that be considered? Oh, and an Alabama football player died before the season started as well. That INT by LSU in Tuscaloosa? Didn't look like an INT to me.

I see where you're coming from, I just don't see why things like that should be considered. If you're going to make that kind of consideration for one team, you have to do it for everybody.
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Re: The momentum begins to swing...
« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2011, 10:12:06 PM »
You realize your points are entirely different from mine?

A tragedy struck that athletic department the same day as a game?  (maybe the day before)

vs.

Tragedy striking in April? 

Missing a field goal?  Is that a tragedy?
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