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Thoughts - Week 4

Thoughts - Week 4
« on: September 25, 2011, 07:35:17 AM »
Last season was in my opinion the most magical college football season a fan could ever experience.  Just a quick rundown for you in case you have forgotten:

- We won the national and SEC championship.
- Our star player won the Heisman trophy, and our star player is considered by many to be one of if not the best player of all time.
- We had a superstar playmaker on defense.
- We went undefeated.
- We had a miraculous comeback against our arch-rival in their stadium.
- We got revenge on every team that took advantage of us during our down years in 2008 and 2009. 
- We overcame the worst off-the-field adversity I've ever witnessed. 
- Our coach handled the mudslinging with class. 
- And that's just what happened in the spotlight.  I didn't mention the smaller, less known accomplishments like Cam reading to elementary school children each week during the season or the unknown-but-now-known story of our team spending time with that Evan Thomason kid. 

This is something to keep in mind over the next few months. 

Auburn....

- Gene Chizik can't be this bad.  Maybe he can.  But I can't consider him to be this bad yet for the reasons listed above.  This is a coach that pulled us out of darkness.  He has to receive that kind of praise and admiration in the same way Pat Dye did.  It may not be long-lasting, but we had been obliterated by Alabama 36-0 and recruiting was tanked.  The state had given up on us, and we were the laughing stock of college football by hiring Chizik.

And in two years, he bitch slapped every Joe out there that had something to say about Auburn. 

He not only put us back on the map, he started taking over countries.  He stole Boardwalk and Park Place. 

He unconventionally overcame the juggernaut of Alabama, the consistency of the SEC, and the arrogance of the Pac 10 to assert himself as one of 13 head coaches to claim a BCS crystal trophy. 

But with that said:

- This team is bad.  This team is so bad that I just typed a few paragraphs on how great last year was in order to prevent myself from lambasting Chizik back to Aimes. 

This team is unorganized, unmotivated, unwilling, unable, and un-fun. 

This team is as bad as 2008 except it's using a mirror.  Our offense is adequate for the time being.  Our defense is putrid.

This team lacks identity.  This team lacks fundamentals.  This team lacks heart. 

It's just lackluster. 

And if Jay Jacobs wants to write me a letter, he can address it to my downstairs toilet. 

- Where is Michael Dyer?  Ok.  I'll let this one slide.  Dyer is our best player, and I have a feeling he could handle a Lattimore-type game.  35 carries.  250 yards.  3 touchdowns.  30 minutes of clock eaten up. 

I understand saving him, so I can't fault the coaches too much right now. 

- But Dyer's disappearance isn't the problem. 

- The problem is Trotter throwing an interception on the first play of the game.

- Trotter being 16 of 28 for 176 yards against a patsy led by an old man in a glass booth.

- Trotter not being entirely to blame because the receivers drop the ball. 

- The fact that our 30 points weren't easy to get against one of the worst teams in college football.

- Seven from a pick 6.  9 points from special teams (field goals).  So our offense scored 15 points against, again, one of the worst teams in college football.

- The defensive effort was a mirage.  14 points and not many yards.  That is an improvement, but we were playing the worst offense in football.

- 20 first downs.  Their QB was 21 of 32.  They still held the ball longer than us by 8 minutes. 

- Some may say, "What's your beef?  That's improvement, right?"

- FAU scored 3 points in two games.  Had one first down against Michigan State.  Had 48 TOTAL yards against Michigan State.  Held the ball for 17 minutes.  Converted 2 third downs TOTAL against Michigan State and Florida (6 against us). 

- The defense struggled enough that this line was written in the ESPN write up: " seemed set for more struggles throughout the first half. The Owls moved the ball at will at times, managing 153 yards and six first downs, both significantly more than they managed all game in a 44-0 loss at Michigan State two weeks ago."

- I've heard of teams being this bad due to talent.  I've heard of teams being this bad due to poor coaching.  I've never seen or heard of a team being this bad due to youth and inexperience. 

- Youth and inexperience means you have two horribly stupid mistakes for every 15 good plays.  It means you have a few more penalties than you would like.  It means you forget to get out on the field for the punt team.  It means you line up incorrectly once in a game.  It means you make a bad throw.  It means you hit the wrong hole. 

- It never means you are unable to make the tackle.  Unable to make the block.  Unable to hit. 

- This team was bound to struggle, and we were all expecting that.  But four games in and this team looks like it's having a horrible day at practice. 

Alabama....

- This is Nick Saban's fifth year, and for four years in a row, Saban's teams are dominating the football field.

- If Alabama played Auburn right now, what would the score be? 

- Alabama isn't unbeatable, but it's going to take a gargantuan effort to take them down.  Their defense is a terror against the run.  Someone has to be able to pass down field consistently to win.  Anyone on their schedule that can do that?

- Florida?  Possibly.  They have the team speed to get it done, but Brantley is a liability.  His accuracy will kill him if he tries to throw downfield on Bama's defensive backs.

- Tennessee?  Possibly.  Tyler Bray has the ability to shred Bama's D, but will his offensive line hold up?  And will the Tennessee defense have the ability to slow down Richardson and Lacy? 

- LSU?  Nope.  Their receivers drop the ball.  Jarrett Lee is a game manager, and the offense relies heavily on the run.  Unless LSU's defense scores points, count them as a loss to Alabama. 

- Auburn?  HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. 

- I always get upset watching Alabama because it seems like luck is always on their side.  But it isn't luck.  It's ability.  The ball bounces in their hands because they're in position.  The other teams give up because Alabama's defense knocks the stars out of their heads.  Alabama has a big party because their running game wins, their defense wins, and their special teams wins. 

- The one weakness on this team is AJ McCarron, but who cares?  In 2008, we said they were great except for Sarah Jessica Parker.  In 2009, we said they were great except for McElroy.  Same in 2010. 

- McCarron will be the golden boy without doing anything.  And once again, if someone really wants to beat Alabama, they'll have to expose this quarterback for what he is - a pansy. 

Arkansas...

- Wow, nice job showing up on Saturday. 

- Did you not see last year's Iron Bowl?  24-7 in Bryant-Denny ain't shit.  Did you catch the West Virginia-LSU game?  LSU was up 27-7, and WVU pulled it within 3 points before an incredible kickoff return by LSU's Claiborne. 

- Maybe you did see all of that and just didn't care.  Bama's up 24-7?  Let's give up and go home. 

- Wilson looks like the real deal.  That one drive was incredible.  That, um, ONE drive.  Need more than that to compete with the big boys. 

LSU...

- You got soft in the 3rd quarter, but other than that, a huge victory. 

- So far, LSU has beaten Oregon in Dallas, Miss St in Starkville, WVU in Morgantown, and a patsy at home.  This is the #1 team in the country, and they deserve some rest next weekend. 

- Matthieu for Heisman. 

Vanderbilt...

- I really liked their new head coach's enthusiasm at media days, and I thought he'd provide a spark for Vandy.  But I wasn't expecting an actual competitive Vanderbilt team.

- I know, I know.  21-3.  Seems like a blowout, but it wasn't as bad as you think.  Vandy's offense couldn't capitalize on much, but the defense played decently.

- This is a moral victory for Vandy.  3-1 going into October with Army, Kentucky, and @Wake Forest being (hopeful) victories. 

- Going bowling after being considered a candidate for worst team in the country?  Success. 

Clemson...

- How far can Clemson go? 

- Well, if they stay mistake free, they may go undefeated. 

- They have playmakers on offense to score points.  They just need more consistency on defense. 

- If they can upset Virginia Tech on Saturday night, the only possible loss on their schedule should be @South Carolina the last week of the season.

- But you know what you get with an overly emotional head coach?  Let downs.  Because the gas runs out when the emotions don't show up to the stadium. 

Robert Griffin....

- Cam Newton-lite?  The commentators just love comparisons, and they're usually off by a hundred miles.

- But this Griffin kid can play. 

- What's more impressive - 13 passing touchdowns in three games?  Or only 12 incompletions in 3 games?

- 5 passing touchdowns against Rice with one rushing touchdown on top. 

- He's completing 85% of his passes, averaging 12 yards per completion, and has zero interceptions.

- 167 yards rushing, averaging 7.3 yards per carry, and one touchdown.

- The competition has been weak, but this kid seems like the real deal.  Should be exciting to watch for the rest of the season.

Final Thought...

- Is this season finished?  Not really.  We're still playing South Carolina this weekend.  The same South Carolina that threw four interceptions to Vanderbilt.  The same Gamecock team that sometimes relies solely on Lattimore to get a victory.  The same team that has an inconsistent defense. 

- It's still college football.  Could Florida flub the game in Jordan-Hare?  Sure.  They're coming to Auburn the week after @LSU, which is the week after Alabama. 

- Arkansas has a motivation problem.  Georgia has a coaching problem. 

- We should beat Samford.

- The season isn't finished.  But the offseason preparation for this season has already been deemed a failure. 
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Re: Thoughts - Week 4
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2011, 09:27:52 AM »
Vandy/SC - the game was handed to SC just like GA handed it to them 2 weeks ago. SC is officially the new GA when it comes to luck and breaks. Vandy outplayed them for the most part.

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- Where is Michael Dyer?  Ok.  I'll let this one slide.  Dyer is our best player, and I have a feeling he could handle a Lattimore-type game.  35 carries.  250 yards.  3 touchdowns.  30 minutes of clock eaten up. 

I understand saving him, so I can't fault the coaches too much right now.

...just confuses the hell out me. Saving him? WHAT?? If you've got a hot horse, you ride it. Using him a lot more could solve a lot of ills. It could hide some flaws we have - namely Trotter and the D. The D would be on the field less, Trotter would have less on him.  Would it solve it all? Nope, but it could help and hide until we figure our shit out.
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Re: Thoughts - Week 4
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2011, 12:48:17 PM »
Arkansas...
- Wilson looks like the real deal.  That one drive was incredible.  That, um, ONE drive.  Need more than that to compete with the big boys. 
Have to give the guy an A+ for effort. He isn't as talented as Mallett, but he doesn't really shit the bed under pressure either. Alabama's LB corps just abused the guy all game long and he kept getting up and throwing the ball. Made some good throws knowing he was about to get the daylights knocked out of him.
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Re: Thoughts - Week 4
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2011, 01:24:20 PM »
I really don't buy the whole saving Dyer take.  They've run him this way right from the start when Onterrio MacProne got the nod.  USCe goes as Lattimore goes.  Yes, they have other talent, but if you're relying on Stephon Garcia to hook up with Al-Shawn Jeffries and take you to the promise land....

MarLat (As his close friends call him) ran the ball 37 times against Navy.  37 carries against OOC foe....Navy.
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Re: Thoughts - Week 4
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2011, 01:30:45 PM »
I really don't buy the whole saving Dyer take.  They've run him this way right from the start when Onterrio MacProne got the nod.  USCe goes as Lattimore goes.  Yes, they have other talent, but if you're relying on Stephon Garcia to hook up with Al-Shawn Jeffries and take you to the promise land....

MarLat (As his close friends call him) ran the ball 37 times against Navy.  37 carries against OOC foe....Navy.

Yeah, I don't buy that either.  Now could they come out and run him 30 times this week and prove me wrong?  I damn sure hope so.
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Re: Thoughts - Week 4
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2011, 01:34:22 PM »
MarLat (As his close friends call him) ran the ball 37 times against Navy.  37 carries against OOC foe....Navy.

Did you watch the USCe-Navy game?

They had to.  Navy's offense was a threat to score almost every time they had the ball.  Luckily for South Carolina, they had the playmakers to keep them from reaching the endzone.

And I don't know what's happened to Alshon, Garcia, and the rest of the bunch, but that offense sucks.  It's pretty terrible, and all they have is Lattimore.

If they would have saved Latt for the SEC slate, they'd have a loss right now.  I think Spurrier's pride wouldn't let that happen. 
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Re: Thoughts - Week 4
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2011, 01:37:12 PM »
And I don't know what's happened to Alshon, Garcia, and the rest of the bunch, but that offense sucks.  It's pretty terrible, and all they have is Lattimore.

Somewhere here in the X is a pic with Alshon. The boy has him a gut. I am assuming this may be hindering his play making skillz.
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Re: Thoughts - Week 4
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2011, 01:47:30 PM »
Did you watch the USCe-Navy game?

They had to.  Navy's offense was a threat to score almost every time they had the ball.  Luckily for South Carolina, they had the playmakers to keep them from reaching the endzone.

And I don't know what's happened to Alshon, Garcia, and the rest of the bunch, but that offense sucks.  It's pretty terrible, and all they have is Lattimore.

If they would have saved Latt for the SEC slate, they'd have a loss right now.  I think Spurrier's pride wouldn't let that happen.

I did watch a good bit of it and ultimately, I think that's what most everyone is saying.  So far, this team is 3-1 with 2 of the wins being nail biters and one a gawd awful performance against FAfuckingU.  Even though Dyer had 150+ against Climpsum, it was painfully obvious he was grossly underused in a game where any semblence of ball control could have made the difference.  Against Utah State, Malzahn came out fuddle farting around with MacProne when Dyer should have been the focal point and pounded that ass into submission.  Same with FAU.  Line him up and beat that ass to death and get him out of there.  The guy is the love child of Emmit Smith and Rudi Johnson.  He's built for 25 carries a game.  You don't have to change your offense and having him pounding the defense only makes it better.

The question is why did you ride his ass as the #1 back all the way to the MNC, but now, MacProne is the better option? Why is it 3rd and 2 and Dyer is relegated to spectator?
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Re: Thoughts - Week 4
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2011, 01:59:20 PM »
this week should be a dyer and lattimore showdown.  no one else should get to carry the ball.  no one should throw the ball.   perhaps, both teams run the wildcat the entire game.

b.t.w is this game televised on teh espns? or cbs?
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Re: Thoughts - Week 4
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2011, 02:32:31 PM »
this week should be a dyer and lattimore showdown.  no one else should get to carry the ball.  no one should throw the ball.   perhaps, both teams run the wildcat the entire game.

b.t.w is this game televised on teh espns? or cbs?

Pretty sure it's the CBS game.
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Re: Thoughts - Week 4
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2011, 03:28:52 PM »
The guy is the love child of Emmit Smith and Rudi Johnson.  He's built for 25 carries a game.  You don't have to change your offense and having him pounding the defense only makes it better.

THIS

Saving him my ass. This is what the guy was built to do.
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« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2011, 03:33:18 PM »
Pretty sure it's the CBS game.

2:30, even.  Plus ya'll don't have to deal with Verne and Gary. 
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Re: Thoughts - Week 4
« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2011, 03:41:44 PM »
I am expecting to have to buy a new TV sometime this season.  I am forseeing a beer bottle being thrown through mine in the upcoming weeks.  Lattimore imo is the best back in the nation.  USC's game plan should be nothing more than handing it to him up the middle dragging our defenders with him.  If nothing else we should commit to stacking the box to kill the run and make Garcia beat us through the air.
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Re: Thoughts - Week 4
« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2011, 03:44:27 PM »
THIS

Saving him my ass. This is what the guy was built to do.

Still, it's possible they're pacing him, but I don't really know.  I saw him look not so good in pass pro a couple of times this past week, so that could be an issue too. 
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Re: Thoughts - Week 4
« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2011, 06:54:32 PM »
Damn, I'm glad y'all aren't Auburn's OC.

"Let's give Mike Dyer the ball!!!"

"Uh...coach? He's out with another concussion."

"Fuck that shit, give him his pads and get him back out there."

"Uh...coach? His legs are pretty banged up from you running him 50 straight plays against an 8-9 man front."

"Okay...put OMac in."

"Uh....coach? He's banged up too, remember he got hurt last week."

"Okay...put Tre Mason in.  Who do we have after Mason?"

"Uh...A white kid."
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Re: Thoughts - Week 4
« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2011, 07:24:29 PM »
USC's game plan should be nothing more than handing it to him up the middle dragging our defenders with him.
Unpossible - you have to wrap up to get dragged
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Re: Thoughts - Week 4
« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2011, 09:02:18 PM »
Damn, I'm glad y'all aren't Auburn's OC.

"Let's give Mike Dyer the ball!!!"

"Uh...coach? He's out with another concussion."
If he's still nursing a concussion, he shouldn't be playing. Period. I can't imagine a doctor clearing him for contact if he's still feeling the effects enough to where they have to limit his touches. They don't fuck around with head injuries. McElroy didn't know what planet he was on after his concussion, but was throwing blocks for guys a little over a month later. I know different people react differently, but like I said before, if his head injury is limiting his number of touches, then he shouldn't be cleared for contact at all. With a concussion it's all or nothing. If you're implying that he has had a SECOND concussion since the first (two within two months), then that is a BIG fucking red flag that he should be in street clothes on the sideline.

He may have some other nagging injury or something that the coaches have not disclosed (and they shouldn't). I think that is probably the reality of it.
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« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2011, 11:47:02 PM »
Damn, I'm glad y'all aren't Auburn's OC.

"Let's give Mike Dyer the ball!!!"

"Uh...coach? He's out with another concussion."

"Fuck that shit, give him his pads and get him back out there."

"Uh...coach? His legs are pretty banged up from you running him 50 straight plays against an 8-9 man front."

Sorry Prowler, but you know better than that to be the reason he is getting limited carries and that is why bullshit is being called.  If he has a concussion that is bad enough to give him limited carries, then you don't play him at all.  If it's that bad, then one wrong hit ends his career.  You don't take that chance.

I buy that he is being saved for the tough Oct schedule more than a concussion. 
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Re: Thoughts - Week 4
« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2011, 06:34:35 AM »
  Just some observations but...

Dyer was the mystery of the Spring. He was banged up according to reports and coaches wouldn't divulge info.
(OMac was concussed against FAU.)

We haven't run the Malzahn version of the full throttled No Huddle complete with motion and pace this season.
This is the No Huddle deconstructed. It's what Alabama ran in the first half of the 2010 Iron Bowl.

We can only guess as to why we have fewer moving parts and have purposefully dumbed it down.

The Clemson game changed dramatically and we never responded for whatever reason. Perhaps it was injury, inexperience or maybe it was just poor coaching decisions or any combination. It certainly wasn't a concious effort to get the defense off the field by not running the damn ball against a team we could obviously run on.

Keep in mind that we have a QB running around against mid-majors that has had TWO KNEE SURGURIES.
And no he doesn't have to prove to us that he's man enough to take the punishment. Gus said weeks ago it isn't in the plan for Trotter to run more. (paraphrased) And I will never criticize Frothro for turming it up to try for some positive yards or forcing the ball some to Blake when some of the offensive linemen are barely brushing up against an on-rushing defender and standing around.
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The right side is decidedly better, we have established that much.

We get Lutz back hopefully for South Carolina so that gives us another option. Stallworth seems a gamer but we still have a boat load of unfulfilled talent at WR that drops balls, fails to get open or recognizes trouble.
OMac cannot turn the corner without that block...few can with any success. Trooper's boys need to step it up.

We see flashes of Frazier from time to time looking very capable as a runner. (not sure of his passing other than his high school film.)

The LaDarious Phillips experiment must have failed. I was skeptical about that idea just as much as I still am about the Bates move to LB.

And I like The Prowlers' idea of moving Sanders to LB. Holland might be better suited on the outside anyway. He flies to the ball and is very aggressive if we can keep him from getting tied up. I'm encouraged by the better play of the secondary and they are really going to have to up their game if we are going to survive October.

This road test in Columbia is going to tell us about the character of this team and possibly clue us in to what is and isn't happening on the field or from the sidelines.   
 
 






 



 

 
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Re: Thoughts - Week 4
« Reply #19 on: September 27, 2011, 09:34:59 AM »
Damn, I'm glad y'all aren't Auburn's OC.

Even more glad that you aren't.

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He is? How did that miss the news wire or injury report?

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"Uh...coach? His legs are pretty banged up from you running him 50 straight plays against an 8-9 man front."
Dyer has barely ran the ball 10 times in a game this year, so how did he run it 50 straight times against a 9 man front?
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