Casey Anthony Contempt

GarMan · « **on:** July 05, 2011, 11:29:39 AM »

This is hillarious! This judge rocks!!!

Tiger Wench · « **Reply #1 on:** July 05, 2011, 11:32:59 AM »

Six days in jail. Talk about bringing the hammer down!! HA!

GH2001 · « **Reply #2 on:** July 05, 2011, 12:14:35 PM »

Watching a lot of this case is hitting home for me. I was part of the jury for a murder trial last week in Lee County.

http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/2011/06/30/1639341/auburn-man-guilty-of-murder-could.html

I can imagine what is going through the Jury members' minds right now having just done this. The "he said, she said" and both sides having conflicting accounts of what happened. You really have to weed through a lot of the bullshit and smoke/mirrors and use common sense in this type of case. In the end, they are going to have to ask themselves one thing: is there any reasonable doubt she did this? That's what it really comes down to.

Tiger Wench · « **Reply #3 on:** July 05, 2011, 12:55:34 PM »

The defense really jacked up her chances of reasonable doubt by letting the mom lie on the stand that she (the mom) was the one who did the chloroform searches. That old lawyer rule about never asking a question you don't know the answer to has a corrollary that you should never let one of your own witnesses tell a story you yourself have not tried to poke holes into - aka, Everybody Lies. How hard was it for the prosecution to prove the mom was physically at work when those searches were done on the home computer? Easy peasy. So before, it could have been Casey or her mom or her dad who did 85 searches... which is legitimate reasonable doubt. But now, by having the mom officially ruled out AND proven to be a liar, and the dad probably ruled out as well, the whole "see, anyone had access" argument is shot to hell.

Slick move, guys...

GH2001 · « **Reply #4 on:** July 05, 2011, 01:00:09 PM »

Its better to stay quiet and have them wonder rather than open your mouth and remove all doubt.

djsimp · « **Reply #5 on:** July 05, 2011, 01:19:25 PM »

My wife has been watching this for a while and has infected me with it. While taking breaks from being dragged around Orlando by the kids, I want to drink a beer and chill. The only problem is the only fucking thing on TV is this trial. I wish this jury would just go ahead and hang her ass and get it over with.

GH2001 · « **Reply #6 on:** July 05, 2011, 01:21:05 PM »

Quote from: djsimp41 on July 05, 2011, 01:19:25 PM

My wife has been watching this for a while and has infected me with it. While taking breaks from being dragged around Orlando by the kids, I want to drink a beer and chill. The only problem is the only fucking thing on TV is this trial. I wish this jury would just go ahead and hang her ass and get it over with.

I wish the jury had that power. Believe me.

djsimp · « **Reply #7 on:** July 05, 2011, 01:24:21 PM »

Quote from: GH2001 on July 05, 2011, 01:21:05 PM

I wish the jury had that power. Believe me.

I would love to kick her in the face before she went to dangling from a rope.

Tiger Wench · « **Reply #8 on:** July 05, 2011, 02:54:50 PM »

She was found not guilty of everything but lying to the cops/filing a false report.

Obviously California does not have a corner on the market on stupid fucktards on juries.

UNREAL.

Normal people do not report their baby missing if they died "accidentally". Normal people do not hide their baby's body in a sack in some bushes. Normal people don't go party on South Beach when they lose a child.

Snaggletiger · « **Reply #9 on:** July 05, 2011, 03:03:31 PM »

Quote from: Tiger Wench on July 05, 2011, 02:54:50 PM

She was found not guilty of everything but lying to the cops/filing a false report.

Obviously California does not have a corner on the market on stupid fucktards on juries.

UNREAL.

Normal people do not report their baby missing if they died "accidentally". Normal people do not hide their baby's body in a sack in some bushes. Normal people don't go party on South Beach when they lose a child.

I agree with all of the above. Problem is most people know in their heart what most likely happened but that's not what a jury is supposed to use to make their determination. Happens with Heisman trophy winning QB's too.

I followed this case with a passing interest and read and heard enough to believe this was the more likely outcome. Way too many unanswered questions.

JR4AU · « **Reply #10 on:** July 05, 2011, 04:54:32 PM »

Quote from: Snaggletiger on July 05, 2011, 03:03:31 PM

I agree with all of the above. Problem is most people know in their heart what most likely happened but that's not what a jury is supposed to use to make their determination. Happens with Heisman trophy winning QB's too.

I followed this case with a passing interest and read and heard enough to believe this was the more likely outcome. Way too many unanswered questions.

That's it in a nutshell. You can't get a Capital Murder conviction on supposition supported with evidence of general bad character.

Tiger Wench · « **Reply #11 on:** July 05, 2011, 05:07:55 PM »

I will concede capital murder, as there was no way to prove premeditation, other than the 85 internet searches for choloroform. But I cannot figure out how she was not convicted of manslaughter. That baby died on HER WATCH. If it was accidental, say so.

GarMan · « **Reply #12 on:** July 05, 2011, 07:07:30 PM »

Quote from: Tiger Wench on July 05, 2011, 05:07:55 PM

I will concede capital murder, as there was no way to prove premeditation, other than the 85 internet searches for choloroform. But I cannot figure out how she was not convicted of manslaughter. That baby died on HER WATCH. If it was accidental, say so.

That's just it. Based on what little attention I gave to this mess, there still seemed to be more than enough evidence to prove that she was involved to some degree with the murder, the death and/or the cover-up. Perhaps, they could have charged her with lessor crimes to secure the convictions.

wesfau2 · « **Reply #13 on:** July 05, 2011, 08:11:58 PM »

Quote from: GarMan on July 05, 2011, 07:07:30 PM

That's just it. Based on what little attention I gave to this mess, there still seemed to be more than enough evidence to prove that she was involved to some degree with the murder, the death and/or the cover-up. Perhaps, they could have charged her with lessor crimes to secure the convictions.

She was charged with lesser crimes. She was charged with aggravated child abuse and aggravated manslaughter. Still not enough evidence to hang her.

Also, JR correct me if I'm wrong, but the first degree murder charge also had lesser included charges (felony murder and one other, I think).

JR4AU · « **Reply #14 on:** July 05, 2011, 09:38:03 PM »

Quote from: wesfau2 on July 05, 2011, 08:11:58 PM

She was charged with lesser crimes. She was charged with aggravated child abuse and aggravated manslaughter. Still not enough evidence to hang her.

Also, JR correct me if I'm wrong, but the first degree murder charge also had lesser included charges (felony murder and one other, I think).

Yes and were instructed that they could consider them. No evidence.

GarMan · « **Reply #15 on:** July 06, 2011, 10:00:55 AM »

Quote from: wesfau2 on July 05, 2011, 08:11:58 PM

She was charged with lesser crimes. She was charged with aggravated child abuse and aggravated manslaughter. Still not enough evidence to hang her.

Also, JR correct me if I'm wrong, but the first degree murder charge also had lesser included charges (felony murder and one other, I think).

I remember hearing that as well, but it still seems that she could have been charged with even lessor crimes that the evidence more directly supported. It was clear from what little I heard that she was involved in the mischief, especially the cover-up of a death. I do understand the reasonable doubt assocated with charges of murder, child abuse or manslaughter.

GH2001 · « **Reply #16 on:** July 06, 2011, 10:08:32 AM »

Quote from: wesfau2 on July 05, 2011, 08:11:58 PM

She was charged with lesser crimes. She was charged with aggravated child abuse and aggravated manslaughter. Still not enough evidence to hang her.

Also, JR correct me if I'm wrong, but the first degree murder charge also had lesser included charges (felony murder and one other, I think).

Because they believe the defense's cockmaney theory that George Anthony drowned her in a pool and tossed her in Casey's trunk before throwing her in a swamp. With no evidence of course. Sounds plausible to me.

JR4AU · « **Reply #17 on:** July 06, 2011, 10:15:33 AM »

Quote from: GH2001 on July 06, 2011, 10:08:32 AM

Because they believe the defense's cockmaney theory that George Anthony drowned her in a pool and tossed her in Casey's trunk before throwing her in a swamp. With no evidence of course. Sounds plausible to me.

IHO, it was a combo of being over charged, and lack of evidence. They won in spite of the bs, not because of it.

Kaos · « **Reply #18 on:** July 06, 2011, 10:22:37 AM »

Quote from: JR4AU on July 06, 2011, 10:15:33 AM

IHO, it was a combo of being over charged, and lack of evidence. They won in spite of the bs, not because of it.

Won?

There are no winners here.

No matter what actually happened -- accidental drowning (bullshit) or purposeful murder (yep) -- that sick ass diseased family conspired to destroy evidence, cover up the event and callously discard the body of an innocent child. And then resume partying.

Fuck them all.

I would not lose one second of sleep if I was presented the opportunity and gunned them down. All of them. The lying mother, the greasy father and the party whore. In fact, I hope somebody does have the decency and humanity to wipe that entire family from the face of the earth. I'd celebrate it.

JR4AU · « **Reply #19 on:** July 06, 2011, 10:29:20 AM »

Quote from: Kaos on July 06, 2011, 10:22:37 AM

Won?

There are no winners here.

No matter what actually happened -- accidental drowning (bullshit) or purposeful murder (yep) -- that sick ass diseased family conspired to destroy evidence, cover up the event and callously discard the body of an innocent child. And then resume partying.

Fuck them all.

I would not lose one second of sleep if I was presented the opportunity and gunned them down. All of them. The lying mother, the greasy father and the party whore. In fact, I hope somebody does have the decency and humanity to wipe that entire family from the face of the earth. I'd celebrate it.

Whatever...