Lying sack of shit

[Kaos]

Can you believe this idiot on Finebaum?  Claiming that the tires were cut and there were death threats.

Fucking liars.  Lying sacks of shit.  His tires were cut in a Wal Mart parking lot?  Yeah.  Because everybody knows what Harvey drives especially since he was in a different vehicle. 

And a bunch of different people post under his user name?  Bull fucking shit. 

[Tiger Wench]

His tires were cut in a Wal Mart parking lot? 

I heard there was a magnet covered in spit lying right next to it.

[Kaos]

I heard there was a magnet covered in spit lying right next to it.

[AUJarhead]

"He ran on the field in 1970."

Sounds like Forrest Gump.

[JR4AU]

This "best friend" of his is too damn convenient.

[AUChizad]

He's destroying some of the "classy fans" alibis.

He was at the National Championship game.

He mentioned that he ran out on the field during a game once waving a Toilet Paper Roll on top of a tide box to overwhelming cheers from the fans.

[JR4AU]

He's destroying some of the "classy fans" alibis.

He was at the National Championship game.

He mentioned that he ran out on the field during a game once waving a Toilet Paper Roll on top of a tide box to overwhelming cheers from the fans.

But he's a fringe sidewalkwer.  Not representative.

Gearing up to sue the Lee Co. jail too.

[Kaos]

But he's a fringe sidewalkwer.  Not representative.

Gearing up to sue the Lee Co. jail too.

He didn't eat for three days and was in a strait jacket for 24 hours? 

Unmitigated mule shit.  Renders everything else he said invalid. 

[GH2001]

He didn't eat for three days and was in a strait jacket for 24 hours? 

Unmitigated mule shit.  Renders everything else he said invalid.

Everything on that show is always true. You know this.....

[The Prowler]

The people that always claim that they had "death threats" are usually lying sacks of whore shit.

[GH2001]

The people that always claim that they had "death threats" are usually lying sacks of whore shit.

Hey prowler post that video of Ricky.


Howarssse shiattttt!

[AWK]

He didn't eat for three days and was in a strait jacket for 24 hours? 

Unmitigated mule shit.  Renders everything else he said invalid.

This...did not...happen... It would be everywhere, and the cops would already be fired.

[djsimp]

Is there a link to some audio?

[Tiger Wench]

I heard there was a magnet covered in spit lying right next to it.

Oh come on, Walter. That was funny.

[AWK]

Oh come on, Walter. That was funny.

I thought it was hilarious.

[Townhallsavoy]

I've waffled over listening to Finebaum for a few years now, but I think that may have been the last time I do. 

Blatant attempt to paint Harvey Updyke in a bit more of a positive light (as Finebaum himself said) and an attempt to give the attorney a public voice.

This Updyke guy - and yes, the evidence does point to him being the culprit - should be ridiculed beyond measure.  He has ruined one of the only interesting traditions we have in this state, and now, as predicted, a select few are going to attempt to help him out.

Strait jacket?  Not being fed? 

Also, he's a good guy.  Loves his family.  Enjoys football.  Would NEVER be the type to do something like this, but you know, if he did, they don't condone it.  And also, he's the anti-Vick.  He'd just die if anything happened to those two dogs. 

Why, I think ole Updyke may have just had a bad moment.  Bad decision.  Something he regrets, but nothing that really damages his character.  He'll pay a bit of a price, but come on, Auburn fans, as Tim Brando said, it's time to get over it.

Fuck em.  Viva la revolution.

[djsimp]

Andy Bitter does a nice breakdown of the call in to Finebaum.
http://wareagleextra.blogspot.com/2011/02/updykes-lawyer-friendlandlord-talk-on.html

Tuesday, February 22, 2011
Harvey Updyke's new lawyer, friend/landlord talk on Paul Finebaum's radio show
 
We got a pretty big look into Harvey Updyke, the accused poisoner of the Toomer's Corner oak trees, today on Paul Finebaum's radio show today. He had Updyke's new attorney, Glennon Threatt, and his best friend, Wayne Barnes, aka FLORIBAMA on TiderInsiders.com, on the show for a lengthy discussion.



Lots of stuff to go through. Let's do it bullet point style:

First up: Threatt, who is Updyke's fourth defense attorney, previously represented disgraced former mayor of Birmingham Larry Langford in his trial for public corruption.

Threatt: "I can tell you when I first talked to Harvey he sounded very downtrodden. He was very, very disappointed. He has been, in my view, denied some basic civil rights that anyone should get no matter what you're accused of. He spent the night in his car. He has very limited resources. He is exactly the kind of person the law requires to get adequate representation. Now he's facing a hostile crowd that rather than have a jury, he'll probably have a crowd of pitchforks and torches out there waiting for him."

On Updyke living in his car, Threatt said Updyke's landlord (more on him later) was getting pressured from the folks around that area not to let Updyke stay there anymore. "He is not a popular person in that part of the state right now," he said.

Threatt said Updyke is living in his car. He said his client is safe but would like to get him to a safer spot. "I don't think he was at all prepared for the maelstrom of public hatred that he received," Threatt said. "And I'm not saying that it was warranted, but I don't think he anticipated, I don't think anybody anticipated that this story would have the legs that it has on the national level."

What has Updyke told him? "I can tell you that he told me that he told you that he did it," Threatt said. "And he told the police something different. I don't know him well enough to know whether his belief system is consistent with the truth."

Threatt tells us a little bit about Updyke: Said he's a father, husband, retired state trooper who had a severe injury in a high speed chase and now has three fused vertebrae. He's also taking 20 medications.
Threatt said Updyke told him he didn't feel safe in jail. "He didn't. He said he didn't. Again, I wasn't there in the jail with him, but he said he felt threatened and he felt that he was threatened on multiple and repeated instances. That there were slurs that were made and he thought it was a little bit more than people egging him on. He thought that they were getting ready to do something to him. And that's why he responded to the press the way he did." (That last part was in reference to the middle finger to the cameras.)

Wait, the people in jail or the authorities who were running the jail? "By the authorities or other people in the jail. He felt that he was being taunted in a way and he was helpless. The point of jail is to make you feel controlled and helpless and secured in an environment in which you have no control. So when you're a (62)-year-old person who is used to being on the other side of the law ... I mean, one of the last people who ever want to go to jail is a former law enforcement officer."

Updyke's first two lawyers were court-appointed. A third didn't work out. Threatt is No. 4. "It's difficult when you've got people who are being thrust upon you and not people that you picked," he said.
Finebaum plays for Threatt the "Al from Dadeville" tape. Threatt's response: "I think he showed that he lacked consciousness of guilt. But I don't know if that's going to matter. We're not going to be placed in a situation where he's insane. I don't know enough about him to have any reason to believe he's incompetent. The fact that he wasn't aware of the total legal consequences of an act he intended to do, if he's incompetent, he's responsible for it."

He won't enter an insanity plea. Said that's rare and that Updyke certainly wouldn't qualify.

After a commercial break, we get Barnes on the phone. He is Updyke's "best friend," former landlord in Dadeville and a poster on an Alabama message board TiderInsiders.com named FLORIBAMA.

Barnes said he was with Updyke when he was let out of jail. They went to Walmart to get a new cell phone and when he came out, his tires were slashed. at that point, Barnes suggested he not stay in the house he was renting to him in Dadeville. "We just thought it was best that he go somewhere else," Barnes said.

It had to be in the state of Alabama, per court orders. Barnes said Updyke doesn't know anybody in the state, so he's staying in the woods in his car (I believe it's a Kia). Barnes described it as "living in his car by a creek."

"If I thought he was safe, he could stay (in the house) until Doomsday," Barnes said.

Barnes clears some things up. Said Updyke is 62, not 67. He is a retired Texas state trooper, not Alabama. Has four kids. He confirms that Updyke's children have Alabama-themed names. His daughter is Crimson Tyde Updyke. His son is Bear Bryant Updyke. He wanted to name his third daughter Ally Bama Updyke. His wife overruled him, saying "hell no." The child was named Megan.

Barnes said he does have the handle FLORIBAMA on the site TiderInsider.com. Posts on that site showed knowledge of the Spike 80DF poisoning of the Toomer's Corner oaks before the Finebaum call from "Al from Dadeville." Barnes said several people have access to his log-in information. "I've never posted anything negative on the site," Barnes said.

COMMERCIAL BREAK ... and we're back with more from Barnes. Back to the posts on the website "Harvey has admitted to the Auburn police department that he made those posts on TiderInsiders when he was questioned or interviewed," Barnes said.

Barnes said he was working in North Mississippi when he found out about the radio show call from "Al from Dadeville." Talked to Harvey later. He admitted to calling in to the radio show. "I said, 'Man, I don't know why in the world you would do something like that," Barnes said.

Was he concerned he would be caught? "He was very concerned," Barnes said. Also a former law enforcement officer, Barnes told Updyke that they probably had a caller ID system. "I said, you made a very, very poor judgment call to call Paul Finebaum, making those kind of allegations," Barnes said. "He became concerned about it, but it was too late. You couldn't put the bullet back in the gun, so to speak."

Barnes visited Updyke in jail on Friday. Also talked to lawyer in Montgomery (Jerry Blevins) to represent him. He stayed in the area while Updyke was bonded out. Stayed in Lee County area Friday night before returning to lake house in Dadeville on Saturday. There was news media there. They knew he couldn't stay there.

"I won't turn my back on him," Barnes said. "I don't approve of what he's done, if he's done this. But that's neither here nor there. He'll be punished."

To best of Barnes' knowledge, Updyke hadn't been to Alabama-Auburn football game until 2000. He didn't go to any more until 2009 when he moved to Alabama. The two of them went to the Rose Bowl following the 2009 season for the BCS national championship game against Texas.

"There's no question that Harvey's an Alabama fan. There's no question that I'm an Alabama fan," Barnes said. "But there is a difference between a fan and fanatic."

Some background on Updyke, per Barnes: Graduated (not sure where) in 1967, moved to Texas following mother's death in 1969 or '70. Didn't return until two years ago. Barnes said Updyke went to the Bluebonnet bowl in 1970 between Oklahoma and Alabama and ran on the field carrying a box of Tide and a roll of toilet paper.

Barnes' opinion on if Updyke did it: "If you asked me if Harvey called the radio station, I would have said yes. If you ask me if he might have committed this crime, I would say ... I can't imagine him doing it for the simple reason that to the best of my knowledge and belief, this would have been something done at night. I can't imagine with based on Harvey's health him taking the chance and doing something like that.
 
Barnes said he doesn't have any knowledge that Updyke knew anything about herbicides. "Nothing in his background of our friendship tells me he knew anything about any type of pesticide, herbicide or whatever you want to refer to it as."

Back to the Updyke's treatment in jail: Barnes said they kept him in a cell segregated from the prisoners (possibly a safety issue). But ... "for three days they didn't allow him to have his medication." (This is a point of contention, since he was arrested at 1:26 a.m. Thursday morning and released at 7:30 p.m. Friday, which is 42 hours, not three days). Barnes said they wouldn't let him shower and kept him in a straightjacket for the first 24 hours. "Naturally when he got released, he was a little upset," Barnes said. "As soon as he got in the truck, there's a camera in his face and unfortunately her made an error in judgment and did something he shouldn't have done." (This was a reference to the middle finger he gave the cameras.

OK, Barnes was cut off as they went to commercial. Coming back, there was more from Threatt. He says a possible reason for a straighjacket might be for him to not hurt himself. He couldn't imagine that at 62 he would be a threat to anyone else. He later said that he's dealt with the folks at Lee County jail and they're "very conscious of the standards of care that are required of prisoners." He said they do the best they can to secure the safety of the individual. "They probably had reason to believe that there was some psychological and emotional issues and they did it for Harvey," Threatt said.

Finebaum goes back to Barnes' notion that he didn't think Updyke is capable of doing something like this. Threatt's response: "It would not surprise me at all, and it would not be the first time that somebody took credit for a highly publicized criminal act and they had nothing to do with it. In many instances, when something like this occurs, there are people who call, crackpots and others who try to take credit for something because they believe that credit is something that they want to have. And so it wouldn't surprise me that he took credit for something that he didn't do." (Question from me: didn't he call to brag about this before anyone knew about it?)

Why would he do this? "He is an individual who may have some emotional and psychological problems," Threatt said.

Threatt said moving for a change of venue is a "delicate issue." Said you could end up in some place that could be worse. (Quick comment: not quite sure how that could be the case in this instance.) Said it's hard for defendant's to prove that an entire jurisdiction is unfair.

Threatt said he is doing this case pro bono. "I'm not rich but I've made enough to give back to the community," he said. Threatt has represented "indigent" clients since 1986. Threat said in his last conversation with Updyke, he didn't have his medicine and didn't have the money to go get it. He said he might pay for it out of pocket.
 
Also, he went to Princeton, so he's not an Auburn or Alabama fan.

"Harvey is a person who needs an aggressive advocate right now and not somebody who is just going to be a judge standing next to him," Threatt said. He said it wouldn't surprise him if there was a tort claim after the criminal proceeding but wouldn't worry about that until down the line. "Once I can ensure his freedom and his liberty, then we'll worry about somebody trying to get money from him down the line," he said.



Read more: http://wareagleextra.blogspot.com/2011/02/updykes-lawyer-friendlandlord-talk-on.html#ixzz1EnFMCm2R

[AU_Tiger_2000]

Barnes said he was with Updyke when he was let out of jail. They went to Walmart to get a new cell phone and when he came out, his tires were slashed. at that point, Barnes suggested he not stay in the house he was renting to him in Dadeville. "We just thought it was best that he go somewhere else," Barnes said.  "Because I can't remember if my fire insurance is paid up."

It had to be in the state of Alabama, per court orders. Barnes said Updyke doesn't know anybody in the state, so he's staying in the woods in his car (I believe it's a Kia). Barnes described it as "living in his car by a creek."  Wow, I never thought it could get worse than a van down by the river, but a Kia by the creek is pretty bad.

[djsimp]

You guys will find this article very interesting.

http://therealistnation.blogspot.com/2011/02/fbi-probe-includes-dadeville-bama-cell.html

Tuesday, February 22, 2011FBI Probe Includes Dadeville "Bama Cell"
Last week, Harvey Almorn Updyke of Dadeville, was arrested by authorities for criminal mischief due to a possible connection in the poisoning of Auburn University's famed Toomer's Oaks. Updyke's arrest set off a national firestorm and media feeding frenzy not seen in this state since Paul Bryant passed away. Among countless others, media notables NBC, CNN, Fox News and ESPN chimed in and swamped East Central Alabama looking for any perspective or angle on this eco-terrorist act. But, one media outlet scooped them all early Thursday morning with news of an arrest and the revelation that Harvey Updyke was the name of the man being held at The Lee County Detention Center.  http://www.sportsradio740.com/ and The Budweiser Sportsline hosted by John Longshore and Barry McKnight along with RN sources broke the news first of an arrest and now, shockingly enough, those sources are talking again.


Sources within the Tallapoosa County area revealed to this blog last night that The FBI has questioned a Dadeville, AL business owner and some patrons of that business who frequently associated themselves with Harvey Updyke. In particular, the questioning focused on what part, if any, these "friends" of Updyke may have had in the actual poisoning of the Auburn trees. This source also indicated that this part of the investigation had nothing to do with a very solid Opelika-Auburn News article seen here, http://www2.oanow.com/news/2011/feb/19/online-postings-add-new-twist-toomers-oaks-case-ar-1484535/ and written last Sunday which could link a Florida Man to prior knowledge of the poisoning. Apparently, agents interviewed at least two other men that were known acquaintances of Mr. Updyke. These men, including Updyke and others, met on a regular basis at a Downtown Dadeville business location to "play dominoes, talk Alabama football and listen to The Paul Finebaum Radio Show." Authorities are trying to ascertain if any of the poisoning plans were hatched at the meetings, if the initial "Al from Dadeville" phone call was made from the business, if someone at the meetings actually supplied the herbicide, and if anyone at this Bama think tank knew how the poison was applied, where it was put, if the Spike 80 DF was put anywhere else and if anymore of the product is floating around.

At print time, sources refused to detail the business name, specific location or the names of anyone questioned, interviewed or detained by federal authorities. Rumors around Dadeville state that the business owner was "very distraught" over the interviews, had nothing to do with any poisoning and was heard to have said "when the FBI is sitting across from you face-to-face, you tell them the truth!" Another source close to the situation stated that one of the interviewed men told The FBI "they might as well replant because it was so much [Spike 80 DF], it will be another 130 years until they roll them again."

Any doubt that a federal investigation would not be needed in this case would immediately be discounted by FIFRA, http://www.epa.gov/agriculture/lfra.html. In a nutshell, FIFRA gives the EPA the authority to levy civil and criminal liabilities under federal law for any multitude of chemical misuse. This list from The EPA shows just how serious these prosecutions can be: http://www.epa.gov/oecaagct/lfraenf.html. Obviously, in this case where chemical misuse was present, a federal agency like The FBI would be required in Dadeville to make sure no stone was left unturned.



Sadly, many idiots like this one, http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/timing-of-toomer-news-release-raises-questions-29504, believe the timing of the arrest suspicious. These "Tree Truthers" think that Auburn officials, not an on-going federal investigation, dragged their feet in order to gain favor or sympathy from the national press to off-set any possible negative NCAA accusations circulating among Auburn enemies. In an Iron Bowl rivalry filled with ridiculous innuendo, this obnoxious assertion rises above all others in lunacy. People like sportsbybrooks or Thayer Evans should remember that unlike blogs or message board trolls, real investigators are super serious, must take their time and are not afforded the luxury of anonymity. "Just how serious?" you ask. Check out this story where a Texas Man got nine years for poisoning an Austin Oak, http://www.nytimes.com/1990/05/11/us/man-gets-9-years-in-poisoning-of-historic-tree.html?pagewanted=1. True, Auburn Police seemed secretive at last week's Updyke arrest press conference, but only because they have to be. Getting an investigation right is the only option and wildly tossing around accusations like sportsbybrooks would be completely unfair to anyone. Could you imagine if a real police investigation was conducted with haphazard Thayer Evans-like techniques? Unfortunately in that case, everyone including Harvey Updyke would be guilty upon arrest, forced to prove themselves innocent and no investigation would ever end honestly.

[Townhallsavoy]

You guys will find this article very interesting.

http://therealistnation.blogspot.com/2011/02/fbi-probe-includes-dadeville-bama-cell.html

I was disappointed.  I was hoping to see Updyke linked to a business owner linked to a lawyer linked to the REC.