How Oregon will likely try to deal with Fairley...

JR4AU · « **on:** December 30, 2010, 12:37:32 PM »

If you can't block him, read him...

http://smartfootball.com/spread/more-on-the-zone-read-or-midline-read-of-the-defensive-tackle

Saniflush · « **Reply #1 on:** December 30, 2010, 01:02:30 PM »

Quote from: JR4AU on December 30, 2010, 12:37:32 PM

If you can't block him, read him...

http://smartfootball.com/spread/more-on-the-zone-read-or-midline-read-of-the-defensive-tackle

They gonna read to him?

I know music can soothe the savage beast but reading is probably just gonna annoy him.

boartitz · « **Reply #2 on:** December 30, 2010, 02:38:53 PM »

Quote from: Saniflush on December 30, 2010, 01:02:30 PM

They gonna read to him?

Powe. Right in the kisser.

Buzz Killington · « **Reply #3 on:** December 30, 2010, 03:22:56 PM »

Quote from: boartitz on December 30, 2010, 02:38:53 PM

Powe. Right in the kisser.

Strike while the Irons is hot.

djsimp · « **Reply #4 on:** December 30, 2010, 04:21:44 PM »

I think Roof should try reverse psychology.

Maybe they should try reading Fairleys lips right before QB Thomas is on his back.

jmar · « **Reply #5 on:** December 31, 2010, 11:52:11 AM »

I suppose Nick could eat a bad burrito before the game starts. Other than that there really is no way to stop him other than to fake a devastating injury but I think someone already tried that one.

JR4AU · « **Reply #6 on:** January 11, 2011, 11:55:27 AM »

As I said, they tried it, but Roof and Coach Rock had them prepared, and Fairley executed. They tried it vs our DE too, and I can't recall which one, but they made a similar play to Fairley's.

ssgaufan · « **Reply #7 on:** January 11, 2011, 12:18:40 PM »

Quote from: JR4AU on January 11, 2011, 11:55:27 AM

As I said, they tried it, but Roof and Coach Rock had them prepared, and Fairley executed. They tried it vs our DE too, and I can't recall which one, but they made a similar play to Fairley's.

I think it was Carter. Is Lemonier a true freshman? If so, DAMN he's gonna be a monster for us!

JR4AU · « **Reply #8 on:** January 11, 2011, 12:35:24 PM »

Here's a post from a coaching forum. The poster here is Chris Brown, who writes the football blog: Smartfootball.com

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Here's my question: I thought Auburn did a great job on Oregon's run game, particularly its inside read game, and even more in particularly its midline. It seemed like Auburn's strategy was, whenever Oregon tried to not block Fairley and to read him, he just kamikaze'd into the backfield to blow up the mesh point. He had a bunch of these. And then when they tried to read someone else he often split the blocks. He was incredible.

Any thoughts on this? I'd never seen a team so successfully just do that -- just say if you don't block my guy he's going to run straight at the mesh point and blow it up. I don't think the Oregon QB did a very good job on run reads, but he also had that War Daddy flying in on every snap. This really killed them on the goalline.

Read more: http://coachhuey.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=43225&page=2#ixzz1AkVafE00

GH2001 · « **Reply #9 on:** January 12, 2011, 12:18:03 AM »

I did notice the first 2-3 plays of the game, they attempted to pull a "georgia" on Fairley. Serious - go back and watch. The intent of chop blocks was pretty obvious.

djsimp · « **Reply #10 on:** January 12, 2011, 09:21:23 AM »

Quote from: GH2001 on January 12, 2011, 12:18:03 AM

I did notice the first 2-3 plays of the game, they attempted to pull a "georgia" on Fairley. Serious - go back and watch. The intent of chop blocks was pretty obvious.

I saw that too, but it looked to me the Ducks were trying that on the whole DL.

AU_Tiger_2000 · « **Reply #11 on:** January 12, 2011, 02:50:18 PM »

Quote from: djsimp41 on January 12, 2011, 09:21:23 AM

I saw that too, but it looked to me the Ducks were trying that on the whole DL.

Didn't notice any chop blocks. Saw a lot of cut blocks delivered with bad intent on the quick passes, but nothing illegal about that.

djsimp · « **Reply #12 on:** January 12, 2011, 02:55:22 PM »

Quote from: AU_Tiger_2000 on January 12, 2011, 02:50:18 PM

Didn't notice any chop blocks. Saw a lot of cut blocks delivered with bad intent on the quick passes, but nothing illegal about that.

Well, technically, that was what I was referring to. I did see one chop block as I can remember but I saw in nearly every play the first quarter cut blocks out the ass. I guess this is the way they were coached.

JR4AU · « **Reply #13 on:** January 12, 2011, 06:02:49 PM »

Quote from: djsimp41 on January 12, 2011, 02:55:22 PM

Well, technically, that was what I was referring to. I did see one chop block as I can remember but I saw in nearly every play the first quarter cut blocks out the ass. I guess this is the way they were coached.

Cut block legal. Chop block not.

In either event, they just weren't ready for the man called Fairley.

djsimp · « **Reply #14 on:** January 12, 2011, 07:20:49 PM »

Quote from: JR4AU on January 12, 2011, 06:02:49 PM

In either event, they just weren't ready for the man called Fairley.

Damn skippy. I'm wondering if Thomas is still having nightmares.

GH2001 · « **Reply #15 on:** January 13, 2011, 10:02:30 AM »

Quote from: JR4AU on January 12, 2011, 06:02:49 PM

Cut block legal. Chop block not.

In either event, they just weren't ready for the man called Fairley.

That was more my point. From play 1 they were using an unconventional method to deal with the obvious mismatch.

djsimp · « **Reply #16 on:** January 13, 2011, 10:22:21 AM »

Quote from: GH2001 on January 13, 2011, 10:02:30 AM

That was more my point. From play 1 they were using an unconventional method to deal with the obvious mismatch.

Yep, and they still couldn't stop him.

JR4AU · « **Reply #17 on:** January 13, 2011, 10:26:53 AM »

Quote from: GH2001 on January 13, 2011, 10:02:30 AM

That was more my point. From play 1 they were using an unconventional method to deal with the obvious mismatch.

Wasn't really "unconventional", but they had no answer for him, at all. The thread on the coaches board where I pulled that post above, is full of coaches just gushing over "the man child" Nick Fairley.

Read an AFCA piece by Fisher Deberry. He talks about Air Force, and playing more talented teams, and specifically talks about dealing with stud DTs, and his quote is "why would we try to block a guy like that for 80 snaps a game, when we can read him". It's a tried and true, old veer/midline triple option tactic...Fairley is just THAT good.

CCTAU · « **Reply #18 on:** January 13, 2011, 11:08:12 AM »

Quote from: JR4AU on January 13, 2011, 10:26:53 AM

Wasn't really "unconventional", but they had no answer for him, at all. The thread on the coaches board where I pulled that post above, is full of coaches just gushing over "the man child" Nick Fairley.

Read an AFCA piece by Fisher Deberry. He talks about Air Force, and playing more talented teams, and specifically talks about dealing with stud DTs, and his quote is "why would we try to block a guy like that for 80 snaps a game, when we can read him". It's a tried and true, old veer/midline triple option tactic...Fairley is just THAT good.

They are correct in that this technique will work.....IF you are running the veer. What UO tried to run was a long hand-off using a deep mesh. If the mesh does not happen on the line, you cannot hope to use this technique against a DL that is so quick. Like one guy said, he is a 310 lb guy that moves like a 180 lb guy. If you are not quicker than him, you stand no chance.

I kept hearing Herbie the love stud saying that the QB made the wrong read on the goal line. That is BS. Had he handed the ball off, they would have lost 3 yds instead of 5. There is no way the RB would have "stepped" into the end-zone untouched. Fairly was in the middle of the hand off. The only way to beat him is to run away from him and hope that one of the other guys is a little weaker. They weren't. UO lost.

War Eagle!!! · « **Reply #19 on:** January 13, 2011, 11:54:47 AM »

Quote from: CCTAU on January 13, 2011, 11:08:12 AM

They are correct in that this technique will work.....IF you are running the veer. What UO tried to run was a long hand-off using a deep mesh. If the mesh does not happen on the line, you cannot hope to use this technique against a DL that is so quick. Like one guy said, he is a 310 lb guy that moves like a 180 lb guy. If you are not quicker than him, you stand no chance.

I kept hearing Herbie the love stud saying that the QB made the wrong read on the goal line. That is BS. Had he handed the ball off, they would have lost 3 yds instead of 5. There is no way the RB would have "stepped" into the end-zone untouched. Fairly was in the middle of the hand off. The only way to beat him is to run away from him and hope that one of the other guys is a little weaker. They weren't. UO lost.

This. I just didn't feel like typing it.