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How irrelevant has UF become?

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How irrelevant has UF become?
« on: December 11, 2010, 10:00:37 PM »
They have to resort to trying to interupt the Heisman Ceremony to name their HC.  Nice try, LMAO!!!  Btw, thank you UF, "Boom Mutha Fucker!!!" Will be in over his head.  How great was his TEXAS Defenses these past two years?  Better not drop the ball on your OC hire.
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Re: How irrelevant has UF become?
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2010, 10:30:29 PM »
They have to resort to trying to interupt the Heisman Ceremony to name their HC.  Nice try, LMAO!!!  Btw, thank you UF, "Boom Mutha Fucker!!!" Will be in over his head.  How great was his TEXAS Defenses these past two years?  Better not drop the ball on your OC hire.
Remind me again of Chizik's record at ISU. How good was his defense at ISU?

Exactly. It doesn't necessarily mean anything.
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Re: How irrelevant has UF become?
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2010, 01:03:58 AM »
Remind me again of Chizik's record at ISU. How good was his defense at ISU?

Exactly. It doesn't necessarily mean anything.
Coach Chizik was the HC at Iowa Fucking State.  His Texas & Auburn Defenses were Top Notch.  If a coach can't put together Top Notch groups together for their side of the ball...what the fuck makes anyone think that they can be any kind of good HC...the coach over ALL Groups on the team.  BMF is not a CEO type HC, (he coached under Coach Belittle and Coach Tuberville), both of those coaches ran their style of defense, regardless of the DC.  BMFer was finally going to run his defense at Texas, his defenses have become horrible in three short years....and that's with Texas' Juggernaut Recruiting Classes.

So, there's no comparison to Coach Chizik and Coach Muschamp.
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Re: How irrelevant has UF become?
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2010, 01:13:30 AM »
Prowler. You are an idiot. That is all.

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Re: How irrelevant has UF become?
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2010, 01:22:29 AM »
Prowler. You are an idiot. That is all.

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Re: How irrelevant has UF become?
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2010, 12:28:07 PM »
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Re: How irrelevant has UF become?
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2010, 07:39:05 PM »
Coach Chizik was the HC at Iowa Fucking State.  His Texas & Auburn Defenses were Top Notch.  If a coach can't put together Top Notch groups together for their side of the ball...what the fuck makes anyone think that they can be any kind of good HC...the coach over ALL Groups on the team.  BMF is not a CEO type HC, (he coached under Coach Belittle and Coach Tuberville), both of those coaches ran their style of defense, regardless of the DC.  BMFer was finally going to run his defense at Texas, his defenses have become horrible in three short years....and that's with Texas' Juggernaut Recruiting Classes.

So, there's no comparison to Coach Chizik and Coach Muschamp.
At this point, Texas has the #7 total defense in the country. In 2009, they were #3. Muschamp's first season at Texas (2008), they were ranked #52. Jumping from #52 to #3 in the country is a pretty good leap. Texas has a horrible scoring offense this season, and their passing game sucks as well. Muschamp runs a defense very very similar to Saban's defense, and it seems to have worked out well for Texas so far. I don't know if you just don't know how to read numbers, or what. But to point out how over his head Muschamp will be while pointing at his defensive numbers the past 2 years is stupid, considering Texas has fielded top 10 defenses both years, and made a NC appearance.

You don't know what kind of HC Muschamp will be, and neither do I. I'm sure the transition will be rough, because I doubt he will keep running Meyer's spread. There will be some rebuilding, and Gator fans probably won't like it. The first season or two might be .500 type seasons. It really depends how much he is going to change the offense. There will be somewhat of a learning curve on defense as well,  as his defense is complicated. I'm sure you will ignore all of that though, and do a victory dance if/when Florida isn't so good next year, though.
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Re: How irrelevant has UF become?
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2010, 07:42:21 PM »
Is Applewhite really going to be his OC???
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« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2010, 08:13:06 PM »
Is Applewhite really going to be his OC???
I'll take this as a sidestep to my above points.

If Applewhite goes to UF, I can't imagine him being the OC. They could get somebody better. If he left Texas, I would imagine he would be a position coach at UF as well.
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Re: How irrelevant has UF become?
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2010, 08:28:49 PM »
I'll take this as a sidestep to my above points.

If Applewhite goes to UF, I can't imagine him being the OC. They could get somebody better. If he left Texas, I would imagine he would be a position coach at UF as well.
OC or not, he is a big time recruiter in the eyes of Texas kids. No pun intended.
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« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2010, 08:51:35 PM »
OC or not, he is a big time recruiter in the eyes of Texas kids. No pun intended.
I agree. Applewhite is a good recruiter, and I think that's what he's most valuable as.
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Re: How irrelevant has UF become?
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2010, 09:00:35 PM »
UF irrelevant? You serious Clark?
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Re: How irrelevant has UF become?
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2010, 01:49:41 AM »
UF irrelevant? You serious Clark?
Yup...irrfuckinelevant.  UF could hire a Bigtime HC, they had to resort to hiring a coordinator with zero HC experience.  They won't be in the BCS NC Game anytime soon under Coach Muschamp, they'll probably be in the SEC Championship Game within a couple years, but it won't be because they're just that good, it'll be because the SEC East is just that bad.  I hope UF is happy with (8-4/9-3) records on a regular bases, 'cause that's what they'll be getting after a year or so removed from most of Urban Meyer's (Zook Part II).
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« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2010, 02:46:45 AM »
Yup...irrfuckinelevant.  UF could hire a Bigtime HC, they had to resort to hiring a coordinator with zero HC experience.  They won't be in the BCS NC Game anytime soon under Coach Muschamp, they'll probably be in the SEC Championship Game within a couple years, but it won't be because they're just that good, it'll be because the SEC East is just that bad.  I hope UF is happy with (8-4/9-3) records on a regular bases, 'cause that's what they'll be getting after a year or so removed from most of Urban Meyer's (Zook Part II).
There's a reason Muschamp's name is seemingly brought up during any major coaching search. There's a reason he was named head coach in waiting at Texas. You pointed to how horrible his defense has been the past few seasons, and that's why he would struggle. He's had top 10 defenses the last 2 seasons. What's the deal? I think alot of the "bigtime" HCs got locked into some better contracts during last year's carousel. I can't think of any real "bigtime" coaches that would have a reason to leave where they are at. And, of course, you assure us that UF will be shitty under Muschamp.....unless they aren't.

As I stated before, I would imagine there will be some transition and a few not-so-great seasons. That is to be expected, especially if he drastically changes the offense. It's not normal for a team to be in a NC game within a year or two of a coaching change. Totally un-natural. So I don't see why that would even be an issue. I think UF knows they are going to have to show some patience here.
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Re: How irrelevant has UF become?
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2010, 03:14:02 AM »
There's a reason Muschamp's name is seemingly brought up during any major coaching search. There's a reason he was named head coach in waiting at Texas. You pointed to how horrible his defense has been the past few seasons, and that's why he would struggle. He's had top 10 defenses the last 2 seasons. What's the deal? I think alot of the "bigtime" HCs got locked into some better contracts during last year's carousel. I can't think of any real "bigtime" coaches that would have a reason to leave where they are at. And, of course, you assure us that UF will be shitty under Muschamp.....unless they aren't.

As I stated before, I would imagine there will be some transition and a few not-so-great seasons. That is to be expected, especially if he drastically changes the offense. It's not normal for a team to be in a NC game within a year or two of a coaching change. Totally un-natural. So I don't see why that would even be an issue. I think UF knows they are going to have to show some patience here.
That's going to be the Huge question.  Will the UF PTB show patience?  Will they be satisfied with (8-4) type records after tasting the sweet success under the former staff?  Like I said earlier, this has the Zooker smell all over it, sweet success under the Ol' Ball Coach, then Coach Zook takes over and that sweet tasting success quickly sours, in comes Coach Meyer and once again, Gainsville is over flowing with success.  Now, in steps Coach Muschamp.
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