Saban Doesn't Need "Gimmicky" Trick Plays

[JR4AU]

I keep reading bammers here, and others agreeing with them, that the "game plan" was fucked up...."why didn't they run the ball more?".  Well they ran 64 plays, and 29 were runs...for a whopping 36 yards.  Oh, and South Carolina's Pass Def?  Only 103rd in the nation.  Saban/McElwain had every right to put a game plan together that was pass heavy due to that fact, AND the fact that their Run D is 23rd in the nation.  Bammer only ran it 31 times vs FL, 31 vs PSU, and 40 vs Ark. So they weren't that far off their pace anyway.

News flash...bammer got outplayed on the field.  Simple as that.  Blame schemes, blame coaches, or whatever, sometimes you just run up against a team that's better than you on that day, and has enough talent to pull off their game plan, and be ready for yours.

Correcting myself...of those 29 runs, 12 were by McElroy, most of which were sacks I assume.  Still my point is the pass defense of SC said throw the ball, and McElroy, for all the shit he's taking, was 27 of 35, for 315 yds, 2 TDs and 0 INTs.  Neither Ingram or Richardson managed 4 yds per carry. 

[Snaggletiger]

I'll have to give credick where credick is due on one play, though.  The TD Bammer scored just before half on a pass to Whooo-Leo was great recognition.  Hell, even the announcers called it before hand.  For some inexplicable reason, USCe substituted at CB and put in the shortest dude on the team to cover His Whooolishness.  One look over by McElmo and chops were licked.  Bang. 

[RWS]

I keep reading bammers here, and others agreeing with them, that the "game plan" was fucked up...."why didn't they run the ball more?".  Well they ran 64 plays, and 29 were runs...for a whopping 36 yards.  Oh, and South Carolina's Pass Def?  Only 103rd in the nation.  Saban/McElwain had every right to put a game plan together that was pass heavy due to that fact, AND the fact that their Run D is 23rd in the nation.  Bammer only ran it 31 times vs FL, 31 vs PSU, and 40 vs Ark. So they weren't that far off their pace anyway.

News flash...bammer got outplayed on the field.  Simple as that.  Blame schemes, blame coaches, or whatever, sometimes you just run up against a team that's better than you on that day, and has enough talent to pull off their game plan, and be ready for yours.

It didn't have shit to do with the gameplan. When you're down 21-3, and it's obvious the other team is going to keep coming at you, you can't just run it and run it and run it. Even if that is your game. It's a little different if the other team is faltering a little on defense and you're knocking them back. I strongly believe we were going to lose that game, no matter what. Like you said, we got beat. Period. Not that difficult to understand, and no need to apply the Prowler Formula to it.

If we had to lose, would I have prefered to lose in a slugfest where both teams are playing some good ball? Sure. Am I mad that we lost in the fashion we did? Sure. However, we went two seasons and some change without losing a regular season game, and have lost 3 games total over two seasons and won a SECCG and a NC in that span. Isn't that enough to be happy about? Thinking you are going to win every game every season in the SEC is, for the most part, unrealistic. 

[AuburnChopper 3.0]

[JR4AU]

I'm fuckn' crying I'm laffin' so hard!

[Tiger Six]

I'm phukn' crying I'm laffin' so hard!

That was pretty funny.  The finebaum and spurrier cameos were nice touches.

[The Prowler]

"hid ya kids, hid ya wife and even hid ya husband cause the Cocks are rapin' everyone." - Token

I never thought SPuat was gonna make a miracle come back...wanna know why?  Two words, Dead Legs.  SPuat looked tired and slow against R-Kansas and that was three games ago.  Against UF, it didn't matter if they were tired, Florida was/is that horrible.  Now you couple Dead Legs and being in a hostile enviroment and the team you're going up against has fresh legs...that's a losing recipe, especially when you top it off with retarded playcalling on both sides of the ball.

[RWS]

especially when you top it off with retarded playcalling on both sides of the ball.

Don't make me fuck you up on yet another thread. Token really was dead on with his Tidesports.com comment. You need to register. Other than the fake field goal, there wasn't really anything wrong with the playcalling. And if the fake FG worked, it would have been a genius call. Not retarded. It's just so easy to blame it on playcalling. The same playcalling that has got us on the map the past two seasons. Oh, and now all of a sudden maybe Saban was onto something with the whole bye-week issue? Get the fuck out of here.

[JR4AU]

Don't make me fuck you up on yet another thread. Token really was dead on with his Tidesports.com comment. You need to register. Other than the fake field goal, there wasn't really anything wrong with the playcalling. And if the fake FG worked, it would have been a genius call. Not retarded. It's just so easy to blame it on playcalling. The same playcalling that has got us on the map the past two seasons. Oh, and now all of a sudden maybe Saban was onto something with the whole bye-week issue? Get the fuck out of here.

"Bad play calling" is one of the catch phrases of the "intelligent SEC football fan".

[The Prowler]

"fuck me up on another thread"?  Please point out where I was wrong in anything that I posted....I'm not going to be holding my breath.  "We got out played, out coached, yada, yada..."  Newsflash, stupid fuck, being "out coached" also means stupid decisions in the playcalling department.  After your QB holds onto the ball for more than 7 seconds for the 6th time, then takes a sack, maybe a run play should be called, because it would be obvious that the opponent has done their fuckin' homework and has all the receivers on lockdown.  But hey, what do I know, I just calls it like I sees it.  You're right rws, SPuat just flat out sucks.

[JR4AU]

"fuck me up on another thread"?  Please point out where I was wrong in anything that I posted....I'm not going to be holding my breath.  "We got out played, out coached, yada, yada..."  Newsflash, stupid fuck, being "out coached" also means stupid decisions in the playcalling department.  After your QB holds onto the ball for more than 7 seconds for the 6th time, then takes a sack, maybe a run play should be called, because it would be obvious that the opponent has done their fuckin' homework and has all the receivers on lockdown.  But hey, what do I know, I just calls it like I sees it.  You're right rws, SPuat just flat out sucks.

Dude, you really should be coaching...you're a fucking football genius.

[RWS]

"fuck me up on another thread"?  Please point out where I was wrong in anything that I posted....I'm not going to be holding my breath.  "We got out played, out coached, yada, yada..."  Newsflash, stupid fuck, being "out coached" also means stupid decisions in the playcalling department.  After your QB holds onto the ball for more than 7 seconds for the 6th time, then takes a sack, maybe a run play should be called, because it would be obvious that the opponent has done their fuckin' homework and has all the receivers on lockdown.  But hey, what do I know, I just calls it like I sees it.  You're right rws, SPuat just flat out sucks.

OR, MAYBE, he should start throwing it to his wide fucking open receivers instead of dancing around and holding onto the ball, or maybe throw it away instead of taking a coverage sack. There were numerous plays where they replayed and showed how he had a wide open receiver that he missed for 10-20 yard gains.....numerous plays. Did you even watch the game? I mean, they were stuffing the run too. Oh, the pass isn't working, so let's run it more. Except we're down 21-3. So let's run it. Oh, that isn't working either.

[AUChizad]

Dude, you really should be coaching...you're a fucking football genius.

The peewee coaching community doesn't have room for any more "football geniuses".

[AuburnChopper 3.0]

The peewee coaching community doesn't have room for any more "football geniuses".

[JR4AU]

The peewee coaching community doesn't have room for any more "football geniuses".

Actually, one doesn't have to have coached a game at any level to know that this:

stupid decisions in the playcalling department. After your QB holds onto the ball for more than 7 seconds for the 6th time, then takes a sack, maybe a run play should be called, because it would be obvious that the opponent has done their fuckin' homework and has all the receivers on lockdown.  But hey, what do I know, I just calls it like I sees it.  You're right rws, SPuat just flat out sucks.

is no where near the football genius that Prowler or you think it is.  What's amazing is that there are people out there watching football games that think they know that much more than the guys being paid hundreds of thousands  or even millions of dollars to do the job.  Seriously.  Tell me you think that the coach's level of analysis in a game plan or game situation is this simple:

McElwain: "Coach Saban, they really got me bumfuzzled, they gots Julio, Maze, and e'erbody on lockdown"

Saban: "Call a run play, that's the smart move, and I suspect all the fans think it would be too". 

McElwain: "Which one do you think coach?"

Saban:  "A Goddamn RUN play you fucking moron!"   

[JR4AU]

Tweedle Dumb chimes in, Tweedle Dumber to the rescue.

[eagleair89]

  Seriously.  Tell me you think that the coaches level of analysis in a game plan or game situation is this simple:

McElwain: "Coach Saban, they really got me bumfuzzled, they gots Julio, Maze, and e'erbody on lockdown"

Saban: "Call a run play, that's the smart move, and I suspect all the fans think it would be too". 

McElwain: "Which one do you think coach?"

Saban:  "A Goddamn RUN play you phuking moron!"   

During the week the preparation is almost maddeningly in-depth and over-kill......no stone unturned.

However, speaking from a few years of experience listening to some former AU coaches during the game (and hearing stories from coaches following a game)........the above type of conversation actually happens quite often each and every game [minus the fan comment]....tifwiw.

WAR EAGLE
 

[JR4AU]

During the week the preparation is almost maddeningly in-depth and over-kill......no stone unturned.

However, speaking from a few years of experience listening to some former AU coaches during the game (and hearing stories from coaches following a game)........the above type of conversation actually happens quite often each and every game [minus the fan comment]....tifwiw.

WAR EAGLE
 

I think Tubs was pretty famous for stuff like this on the headsets.  Although what I've heard is more along the lines of "that fucking shit would have worked if Joe had blocked his man, or if Jimmy had run his route."  But yeah, "adjustments during the game amount mostly to simply determining what works, and what doesn't and running more of what does.  Sometimes, aint shit working though...see Alabama saturday for reference...and oh BTW, it's not like their offense was totally inept...McElroy's passing numbers weren't bad. 

[AuburnChopper 3.0]

Tweedle Dumb chimes in, Tweedle Dumber to the rescue.

Don't you have a sense of humor?  Gah.....

 

[JR4AU]

Don't you have a sense of humor?  Gah.....

 

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