Well, What Does The Wall Street Journal Know Anyways...Pfff...

[Token]

I want my kid to play for Blue Mountain State.

Well, at least you could see them pick up a victory in Oxford, MS.

[RWS]

Can't wait for RWS's PERFECTLY good reason for this.  No No People...  Walk away!  Nothing to see here......

Looks like I wasn't needed. Bottom line, alot of those kids got the same result had they stayed on the team. A free ride through college, and not playing on the team. They could have just got their scholarships snatched, and been shit out of luck. Those are year to year, you know.

No matter what school you look at, you will always have some kid bitter for something, whether he has been kicked off the team, left the team on his own, or is still on the team. For example, go ask DeRon Furr how he feels about AU.

[Snaggletiger]

Like someone said earlier....wait screw that, I'm taking credit for it....if the kid wants to play football, transfer somewhere else.  There's only 150,000 D1 schools and if Bama recruited you, you're obviously good enough to play somewhere.  Hell, you're gettig a free ride regardless.  Stop your bitchin' and move on.

[AuburnChopper 3.0]

Looks like I wasn't needed. Bottom line, alot of those kids got the same result had they stayed on the team. A free ride through college, and not playing on the team. They could have just got their scholarships snatched, and been shit out of luck. Those are year to year, you know.

It's just shady is all.  Also, the whole point, was that a paper that shouldn't give a shit about a who gives a shit subject, but does now, and is publishing it.  It's just another cog in the machine, or rung in the ladder.  Just more shit that wouldn't be there if Saban wasn't so hard up to be a douche bag. 

No matter what school you look at, you will always have some kid bitter for something, whether he has been kicked off the team, left the team on his own, or is still on the team. For example, go ask DeRon Furr how he feels about AU.

You shouldn't have edited to add this last paragraph.  It's just stupid, and has NOTHING to do with the subject.  None. 

No SHIT, there are bitter kids that get cut, run off, hurt and whatever from major college football.  ...and Oh yes, the DeRon Furr thing is exactly the same thing the article was talking about.  I'm sure it didn't have anything to do with a kid not getting to play where he wanted, then acted like a bitch followed by the rest of the team basically telling him to fuck off.   Exactly the same as a kid being told he's too hurt to play.

Big.  Fat.  Fail.

[GH2001]

Couldn't...it's fucking couldn't...

So? What does that have to do with anything? It's not like we are the ones getting shit prepared or have to get ready to play.

Why get "worried" about shit that you have no control over?
This is how I see it personally.

Been reading Kaos shit?
I personally just see this as some more "win at all cost" type shit that I have known about the University of Alabama for all my 33 years on this planet. This is nothing more, nothing less. Is it shady...fuck yes it's shady. But it's within the rules and if it's within the rules...so be it. I think that Alabama will do whatever it takes, to have a winning program and to win national championships. If that means having to fuck 19 to 23 year olds over, so be it.

Kids want to go to a place that wins championships. But there are sacrifices that have to happen to constantly be at the top. If kids want to take that risk...don't complain about shit when stuff like this happens. Until there is a rule against shit like this, fuck it...

Worry about shit I have no control over? Thats the whole point of my post. IF I am going to worry about something, its MY team. Let Bama sort their shit out. Right now, they are owning everyone and we better start being aware instead of getting caught up in their trivial shit in the WSJ. As JR said - I know Saban is a douche. I don't need the WSJ to tell me that. We have a game against a very good team this weekend, and THIS shit is what we are talking about? My God.....

[Godfather]

I don't know what this kids problem is, he's getting a edumacaton and a Dodge Charger what else does he need?

[Buzz Killington]

12/25 = .480

Jess sayin

[RWS]

It's just shady is all.  Also, the whole point, was that a paper that shouldn't give a shit about a who gives a shit subject, but does now, and is publishing it.  It's just another cog in the machine, or rung in the ladder.  Just more shit that wouldn't be there if Saban wasn't so hard up to be a douche bag. 

You shouldn't have edited to add this last paragraph.  It's just stupid, and has NOTHING to do with the subject.  None. 

No SHIT, there are bitter kids that get cut, run off, hurt and whatever from major college football.  ...and Oh yes, the DeRon Furr thing is exactly the same thing the article was talking about.  I'm sure it didn't have anything to do with a kid not getting to play where he wanted, then acted like a bitch followed by the rest of the team basically telling him to fuck off.   Exactly the same as a kid being told he's too hurt to play.

Big.  Fat.  Fail.

It just proves my point that kids get bitter for various reasons, whether they are right or wrong about the situation.

Here are the options, as far as injuries:

1. Let the kid play hurt, he gets hurt even more, sues the school and blames the coaches and is pissed at them. Coaches pressured him to play hurt, they weren;t looking out for his well being, etc etc.

2. Don't let the kid play hurt, he gets a free ride, and he is pissed off at the coaches.

Did AU not get sued by a lineman not too long ago because he felt pressured to play hurt, and felt his rehab didn't go the way it should have? This is sort of the same type thing. They're damned if they do, damned if they don't.

[AuburnChopper 3.0]

It just proves my point that kids get bitter for various reasons, whether they are right or wrong about the situation.

lol.

Here are the options, as far as injuries:

1. Let the kid play hurt, he gets hurt even more, sues the school and blames the coaches and is pissed at them. Coaches pressured him to play hurt, they weren;t looking out for his well being, etc etc.

Agreed IFF they are independently tested.  According to one, he was shocked, or surpised he didn't pass.  He thought he was fine.  If Saban wants that kid to fail a physical, I promise you the team physician is going to find a reason to fail them, or give them non-football options.

Again, half of the SEC medical dismissals over the last three years.  It's a trend that seems bunk for bama.

2. Don't let the kid play hurt, he gets a free ride, and he is pissed off at the coaches.

Right, so let the kid continue to take player benefits also, like free tickets...right?  Cause all students get this perk.....

Did AU not get sued by a lineman not too long ago because he felt pressured to play hurt, and felt his rehab didn't go the way it should have? This is sort of the same type thing. They're damned if they do, damned if they don't.

It's not the same thing.  Not even close to the same sort.  The player in question felt he wasn't getting the best care, and wanted to go to a private orthopedic surgeon, and Auburn didn't support it, leading to a bad situation.  It WAS a bad situation, but not the same thing. 

[Snaggletiger]

I personally don't see the problem here.  As was mentioned, a schollie is year to year.  If a corch doesn't want a kid to take up a spot anymore and doesn't think he can help the team, for whatever reason, then he's going to be kicked to the curb by a lot of staffs.  Tubby did his share of cleaning house when he got here as I imagine most corches do.  The win/win here is that they're still offering the kid a schollie when they could punt him and let him fend for himself.  I'm kicking my ownself in the testes (When I have them) by saying this, but it looks more like the University is holding up its end of the bargain by continuing to give them a free ride.

If the player wants to play foosball badly enough, I would think he would be smart enough to realize it ain't happenin' where he's at.  Now, he can go and earn a scholarship elsewhere and play ball.  How is this a bad thing?

[djsimp]

If the player wants to play foosball badly enough, I would think he would be smart enough to realize it ain't happenin' where he's at.  Now, he can go and earn a scholarship elsewhere and play ball.  How is this a bad thing?

Like Jacksonville St, North Alabama, MTSU and so on? Makes sense to me unless it wasn't a college degree they wasn't looking for to begin with.

[AuburnChopper 3.0]

I personally don't see the problem here.  As was mentioned, a schollie is year to year.  If a corch doesn't want a kid to take up a spot anymore and doesn't think he can help the team, for whatever reason, then he's going to be kicked to the curb by a lot of staffs.  Tubby did his share of cleaning house when he got here as I imagine most corches do.  The win/win here is that they're still offering the kid a schollie when they could punt him and let him fend for himself.  I'm kicking my ownself in the testes (When I have them) by saying this, but it looks more like the University is holding up its end of the bargain by continuing to give them a free ride.

If the player wants to play foosball badly enough, I would think he would be smart enough to realize it ain't happenin' where he's at.  Now, he can go and earn a scholarship elsewhere and play ball.  How is this a bad thing?

You'd be right if Alabama only had two or three, like other schools, but this corch and school account for half of these occurances in the last three years.  Is it technically wrong?  No.  I'm not arguing that.  What I'm suggesting, and what the article seems to suggest is that some of these kids aren't getting a fair shake to come back and contribute as players, and instead are being lead to believe they can't and should be taking other benefits and non-football roles instead.

THAT is the bullshit part of it.  Not that it happens.  It does.  However, to shift and shuffle players just because you have another kid you fucked up and gave a spot to that wasn't actually open, is a problem.  The same sort of problem that created the gray shirt criticizing.

This is an example of now a second way, in which Saban is overloading and then screwing college kids to get an advantage. 

Is it legal?  Yes.  Ethical?  I'm not thinking so much.

[No Huddle]

Tigersx has talked about this more than tidesports.

[JR4AU]

Tigersx has talked about this more than tidesports.

Don't you have tests to be grading?

[Godfather]

Don't you have tests to be grading?

pow pow!

[RWS]

lol.

Laugh all you want. Stamp it with your "big fat fail" stamp all you want. It's true. I'm sure there are kids out there bitter towards AU for various reasons. It doesn't mean we should villify AU for it, though.

Agreed IFF they are independently tested.  According to one, he was shocked, or surpised he didn't pass.  He thought he was fine.  If Saban wants that kid to fail a physical, I promise you the team physician is going to find a reason to fail them, or give them non-football options.

Again, half of the SEC medical dismissals over the last three years.  It's a trend that seems bunk for bama.

You're attaching your own little stipulation to try an "win" your argument. The standard of care is by the team doctors. Until you come up with some pretty substantial proof that Saban is telling doctors to fail perfectly healthy kids, you don't have a leg to stand on with this argument.

Right, so let the kid continue to take player benefits also, like free tickets...right?  Cause all students get this perk.....

So, how is this fair to the kids on the roster that are able to bring something to the table for the team? I mean, by keeping an injured kid who the coaches know they aren't ever going to play in a game on the roster, is that not taking away from the kids who are able to participate? Is it not just wasting the coaches time, and the kid who is injured time?

When a kid is injured, and the doctors say he shouldn't play or participate, you're creating a liability by having him around. I know that sounds bad, but it's true. Whether he is on the scout team, starting, or only lifting weights. All it takes is him aggrivating the injury and causing some permanent damage to sue the school. Either way, it will be the coaches fault in his mind.

[Buzz Killington]

Tigersx has talked about this more than tidesports.

They long to be like Tigersx

[djsimp]

They want to be long like Tigersx

That is even better.

[Token]

I now regret my contribution to this thread.

[AWK]

I now regret my contribution to this thread.

Don't be a puss, this is as important as real life shit.