What did the Ghostbusters say would happen if the Proton Rays crossed?

[The Prowler]

Much less Collide.......Looks like the Europeans are trying to create their very own uat (ie Black Hole).  LOL, seriously.

Scientists to Probe Beginning of Time, Big Bang's Missing Mass
By Warren Giles
Sept. 9 (Bloomberg) -- Scientists tomorrow will take a step closer to understanding the beginning of time when the European Organization for Nuclear Research powers up the world's biggest magnetic loop in the search for the universe's missing matter.

Particle physicists on the outskirts of Geneva are trying to find out what most of the universe is made of, and where it is, because most of the matter created in the ``Big Bang'' 13.7 billion years ago has disappeared. Adding up all the stars, planets, and black holes in the universe only accounts for about 4 percent of all the mass created when time began.

After a decade of work, physicists will fire the first particles around a 27-kilometer (16 mile) long magnetic loop buried 100 meters (328 feet) under ground in a tunnel large enough for subway trains through an environment colder than outer space.

As the particles lap at close to the speed of light some will collide, triggering new particles that may also help scientists understand why the expansion of the universe is accelerating instead of slowing as predicted by theory.

``We may find a whole new family of particles that might account for the missing mass, the `dark matter' that we know must be there,'' says David Evans, a scientist who helped to build some of the electronic equipment that have one-billionth of a second to spot a collision. ``One way or another, there's a 100 percent chance we will find something new to physics.''

The unknown outcome has prompted a challenge at the European Court of Human Rights by chemist Otto Roessler, of the University of Tuebingen in Germany, to try to stop the experiment, claiming the event will create a black hole that will destroy the planet.

World Wide Web

The CERN complex, overlooked by the Jura mountains which rise to 1,720 meters, is where one of CERN's alumni, Tim Berners- Lee, invented the first World Wide Web browser in 1989 to help physicists all over the globe better swap notes. CERN is the French acronym for the nuclear research organization.

While the spin-offs for technologies used in the 6 billion Swiss franc ($5.3 billion) ``Large Hadron Collider'' experiments may not be immediately obvious, applications from other particle physics research include three-dimensional hospital scanners and non-invasive surgery, which will improve as a result of CERN's work, says Evans.

One of CERN'S problems in generating an environment that resembles conditions one thousandth of a millionth of a second after the start of time, and the creation of all the universe's building material, is the volume of data generated by the observations.

Within a year the particle accelerator's four experiments, one of which involves equipment weighing 7,000 metric tons or the equivalent of a subterranean Eiffel Tower, will have spewed enough data to fill a pile of compact discs 12 miles high.

`Dark Energy'

Some of the material that the physicists may find is labeled ``dark energy,'' and may help explain why ``something is still driving the expansion of the universe, but at the moment we have no idea what it is,'' says Evans, who dismisses the risk of earth being swallowed by a black hole.

``Nature already produces far higher-powered particle accelerations and the earth would already have been destroyed if that were possible,'' says Evans. The experiments are ``a once- in-a-lifetime experience, 10-times more powerful than anything anyone has ever built and the first time we know for sure that something new and exciting is going to happen.''

To contact the reporter on this story: Warren Giles in Geneva at wgiles@bloomberg.net

Last Updated: September 9, 2008 04:11 EDT
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TIMELINE-Major events for CERN and particle physics
Tue Sep 9, 2008 8:35am EDT
(Reuters) - The European Organisation for Nuclear Research, known as CERN, is the world's largest particle physics laboratory. Its scientists are preparing to start a small-scale re-enactment of the "Big Bang" that created the universe.

Following is a brief history of CERN and its advances in particle physics:

1954 - CERN was founded as one of Europe's first joint ventures, partly as a way to share the rising costs of running nuclear physics facilities. Its 12 founding members were Belgium, Britain, Denmark, France, Germany, Greece, Italy, the Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland and Yugoslavia.

1957 - The Synchrocyclotron, CERN's first accelerator, was built to provide beams for particle and nuclear physics experiments. It was later used in nuclear physics, astrophysics and medical physics, with the later developed Proton Synchotron dedicated to particle physics. That machine accelerated protons for the first time in November 1959.

1968 - CERN scientist Georges Charpak develops a gas-filled box known as a "multiwire proportional chamber" that counted particles one thousand times better than previous detectors.

1971 - The Intersecting Storage Rings, the world's first proton-proton collider, produced the first-ever proton-proton collisions, a precursor to CERN's colliding-beam projects.

1973 - CERN announces an experiment in its Gargamelle bubble chamber shows the existence of neutral currents, a major advance in understanding the particles of matter and how they interact.

1976 - The Super Proton Synchrotron, with a circumference of 7 km (4.4 miles) is built, providing beams to large experimental areas of CERN. Scientists using those beams in 1983 discover the two charged particles, called W, and their neutral counterpart Z. The Super Proton Synchrotron is now the last link in the chain providing beams for the Large Hadron Collider.

1989 - The Large Electron-Positron collider is the largest electron-positron accelerator ever built with a circumference of 27 km (16.8 miles). The excavation of the tunnel to house it was Europe's largest civil engineering project before the Channel Tunnel. Its experiments proved there are three generations of particles of matter. It was closed in 2000 to allow for the construction of the Large Hadron Collider in the same tunnel.

1990 - CERN scientist Tim Berners-Lee invents the worldwide web to meet demands for information-sharing between scientists. Berners-Lee defined basic concepts like the URL, http and html and also wrote the first browser and server software.

1994 - CERN approves construction of the Large Hadron Collider, the world's largest particle accelerator with an eventual project cost of 10 billion Swiss francs ($9 billion). At full power, trillions of protons can race around its ring at 11,245 times a second -- some 99.99 percent the speed of light.

1995 - Team at CERN's Lbow Energy Antiproton Ring facility create atoms of anti-hydrogen in the first time that anti-matter particles were brought together to make complete atoms, helping explain the universe's asymmetry between matter and anti-matter.

2002 - Two CERN experiments create and trap thousands of atoms of anti-matter in a "cold" state, meaning the atoms are slow-moving and can exist for long enough to be studied before they meet ordinary matter and annihilate.

2008 - The Large Hadron Collider starts up. Its experiments are expected to address questions such as what gives matter its mass, why nature prefers matter to anti-matter, and how matter evolved from the first instants of the universe's existence.

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[JohnDeere]

1990 - CERN scientist Tim Berners-Lee invents the worldwide web to meet demands for information-sharing between scientists. Berners-Lee defined basic concepts like the URL, http and html and also wrote the first browser and server software.

Shit, I thought Al Gore invented the internets.

There is an interesting show on CERN playing on the History or Discovery Channel. I can't remember which it was since my brain was so fried after trying to just comprehend quantum physics for 30 minutes.

[Tarheel]

Shit, I thought Al Gore invented the internets.

There is an interesting show on CERN playing on the History or Discovery Channel. I can't remember which it was since my brain was so fried after trying to just comprehend quantum physics for 30 minutes.

I know what you mean JohnDeere; at the risk of quoting The Obama, quantum physics is "above my pay grade".

[The Prowler]

They've just completed the First of Four tests.....the third test is the one that I'm kinda worried about, that's the one were they'll have one Proton Partical Beam going counter clockwise and the other going clockwise....then they'll Collide, head on.
I've heard that if a Black Hole was to form that it would take around 50 months, depending on the size, to swallow the earth....which would put it around *December 2012* of that happening, coincidence?

[Pell City Tiger]

If these motherfuckers collide on the 21st, my hat's off to the Mayans.

[Townhallsavoy]

Particles collide all the time.  Cosmic rays from the sun are crashing into the earth every day.  There haven't been very many black holes created in the atmosphere. 

What I'm more afraid of, is the fact that the temperature of those particle collisions reach 100,000 times hotter than the center of the sun.  That's fucking hot.  In fact, that's hot enough that if there's a malfunction in that tube of theirs, the earth is going to have some serious issues. 

Also, there's some theory that if they create the Big Bang all over again, it could mess with the instability of the universe and create a vacuum bubble, which would destroy the entire universe. 

But no worries, the French are in charge of this project.  They never fail.   

[Buzz Killington]

28 days left...it's been nice knowing you fuckers.

[AU_Tiger_2000]

Also, there's some theory that if they create the Big Bang all over again, it could mess with the instability of the universe and create a vacuum bubble, which would destroy the entire universe. 

A vacuum bubble sounds like the black hole that they are concerned with.  Or are you referring to something else?

As to the temperature issue, there is not enough total mass at these temperatures to cause problems.  Think of it this way, the plasma in a fluorescent bulb gets up to 15,000 + F (lightning is 30,000F) yet you can touch (briefly) an operating fluorescent bulb because it is at a partial vacuum in the bulb.  There is just not enough particles at this super high temp coming in contact with the glass that your hand is touching to transfer any appreciable heat.

[Townhallsavoy]

A vacuum bubble sounds like the black hole that they are concerned with.  Or are you referring to something else?

As to the temperature issue, there is not enough total mass at these temperatures to cause problems.  Think of it this way, the plasma in a fluorescent bulb gets up to 15,000 + F (lightning is 30,000F) yet you can touch (briefly) an operating fluorescent bulb because it is at a partial vacuum in the bulb.  There is just not enough particles at this super high temp coming in contact with the glass that your hand is touching to transfer any appreciable heat.

Quit being smarter than me.  I just was restating what I had heard. 

[Saniflush]

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bye France.

[The Prowler]

And here we are worrying about the Gas Gouging.

[GarMan]

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bye France.

Silly frogs...  Perhaps, they should preemptively surrender...