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Auburn Homer Thread - Auburn's All-Time Team Beats All Other SEC All-Time Teams

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While you all are working out the last kinks of the Auburn team, I'm going to start putting together the others (that will be competitive, so I'm not wasting time on Kentucky, Vanderbilt, or Miss State).  I'll go in alphabetical order. 

Starting with the gumps.

Alabama...

Shouldn't this entry be a link to their current roster?
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Nuances aside, I think a compelling argument can be made that Auburn's all-time team would win against the following competitive programs: Alabama, Georgia, Florida, Tennessee, and LSU. 

Here's the criteria:

Analysis of Quarterbacks
Offensive Line vs. Defensive Line
Receivers vs. defensive backs
Offensive playmakers
Defensive playmakers

First up, Auburn vs. LSU....

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Not sure why Fred Beasley is even mentioned here.  He didn't do dick at Auburn, mainly because Bowden got completely away from the big power back and wanted to go with a bunch of smurfs in the backfield.  Beasley had a solid NFL career but he was barely used with relation to his potential.  And if memory serves, there wasn't much use for the fullback once Bowden went full-blown Diddy's offense.

Note:  I liken Beasley's Auburn career to that of Tony Richardson.  Underused while in college but had/has had a long NFL career.
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My doctor told me I needed to stop masturbating.  I asked him why, and he said, "because I'm trying to examine you."

Auburn vs. LSU

Analysis of Quarterbacks

Who is Bert Jones?  A consistent signal caller from years ago who was supposed to be the heir to Johnny Unitas.  While Jones is an admirable quarterback and some may say Jamarcus Russell may have been a better choice, there's simply no comparison to Cam Newton.

In fact, Cam Newton's ability to throw accurately, throw deep, and throw intelligently combined with his powerful, heavy body that can move at wide receiver speed with running back elusiveness is far and beyond what any quarterback on any other team can offer except for Tim Tebow.  So comparing quarterbacks will take a break until Auburn vs. Florida.

Offensive Line vs. Defensive Front Seven

Luckily for this comparison, many of the Auburn offensive line greats competed with the LSU defensive line greats.  The only defender LSU offers that would pose a problem for Auburn's line is Glenn Dorsey.  At his best, he is unblockable and has the ability to stuff the run and rush the passer.  For Auburn, having the dual threat quarterback with the option to pitch to a powerful, blazing fast Bo Jackson would nullify the effectiveness of Dorsey's performance.  Combining Newton and Jackson with this o-line would simply dominate the line of scrimmage. 

LSU's linebackers would have a very tough time stopping the Auburn rushing attack.  With a head of steam, Newton and Jackson would be too powerful to slow down.  Not to mention, LSU's greatest linebackers were undersized and fast, and while speed and agility is useful as a linebacker, their speed and agility doesn't match up with the athleticism of Newton and Jackson. 

On the flip side, the inside men of Auburn's defensive line would be unblockable by LSU's linemen.  Nick Fairly and Glenn Dorsey are very comparable, however, Auburn has the edge by adding a second freak at defensive tackle in Tracy Rocker. 

Billy Cannon and Kevin Faulk are both very serviceable running backs and no team would lament having them on their offense; however, they are not legends.  They are not top 10, 20, or even 30 of all time in college football lore.  LSU would need Auburn's Bo Jackson to make something happen behind the line of scrimmage in order to have a chance at developing an effective run game.

On top of the dominance of Auburn's defensive line, Auburn's linebackers are head and shoulders better than the LSU rushing attack.  No matter which of Auburn's legendary linebackers you choose, their tremendous size, strength, and speed would stuff the LSU run game.  This would force LSU to open up their passing game.

Receivers vs. defensive backs

Auburn would have already established their rushing attack with Newton and Jackson.  In fact, I'd be willing to bet that Auburn could win this if they only ran the ball with Newton and Jackson.  5+ yards a carry with multiple long touchdown runs would not be unexpected.

However, if LSU did manage to force Auburn into a passing situation, I believe they would have the upper hand against Auburn's receivers. 

Auburn's receivers are good but not really great when compared to other receivers that have played the game. 

There's no denying the fact that LSU's secondary is stout especially at corner.  However, this is a moot discussion because LSU would not have the freedom to just defend the pass.  They would have to put 8- men in the box, and Newton's accuracy would pick apart the LSU secondary. 

For LSU, their receivers would be very tough to defend, but I believe that Carlos Rogers is a good enough shut down corner to prevent Josh Reed from doing too much damage. The size of Dwayne Bowe would create mismatches in the secondary, however, Auburn's defensive line and linebackers would have Jones on his heels.  The lack of an effective LSU rushing attack would limit their ability to have consistent pass plays. 

Offensive playmakers

No contest.  Not even worth a discussion.  Cam Newton and Bo Jackson are top five biggest offensive threats not only in the SEC but in the entire history of college football.  LSU has a few defensive players to limit this, but Newton and Jackson would put up record numbers.

I do think LSU's back four would limit the big play.  LaRon Landry would effectively punish Jackson and Newton for making it down field, but the damage would already have been done. 

For LSU, Josh Reed, Michael Clayton, and Dwayne Bowe are all three very dangerous, tall, strong receiving threats down field. 

Defensive playmakers

Auburn has a plethora of defensive players that can take over a game.  Tracy Rocker and Nick Fairley could handle the line of scrimmage alone. 

LSU also has a lot of defensive playmakers but nobody with the ability to take over the game against Auburn's offense.

Verdict

I really think this would be a blowout. 

Auburn 49 - LSU 13
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Not sure why Fred Beasley is even mentioned here.  He didn't do dick at Auburn, mainly because Bowden got completely away from the big power back and wanted to go with a bunch of smurfs in the backfield.  Beasley had a solid NFL career but he was barely used with relation to his potential.  And if memory serves, there wasn't much use for the fullback once Bowden went full-blown Diddy's offense.

Note:  I liken Beasley's Auburn career to that of Tony Richardson.  Underused while in college but had/has had a long NFL career.


I think Tony Richardson is who I meant. 

In fact, after doing the Wiki, he's exactly who I meant. 
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I think Tony Richardson is who I meant. 

In fact, after doing the Wiki, he's exactly who I meant.

Both incredibly underused backs.  Especially Beasley.  He was a monster coming out of high school.  I believe he followed Steven Davis.  Big 225 back.  But Tot wanted nothing to do with that kind of back.

Anyone recall the Miss. State back who was All SEC at that time?  Something like Jonathon Jones or Johnny Jones...can't place it.  He was one of those 6'2" 225 type backs who would hang 100 on you in a hearbeat.  Anywho, there was a quote from one of the assistants who was recruiting him and was talking to Bowden in a meeting about the back and Bowden flatly stated he didn't want him.  The assistant asked him what was wrong?  Is he too big or too fast?
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Not sure why Fred Beasley is even mentioned here.  He didn't do dick at Auburn, mainly because Bowden got completely away from the big power back and wanted to go with a bunch of smurfs in the backfield.  Beasley had a solid NFL career but he was barely used with relation to his potential.  And if memory serves, there wasn't much use for the fullback once Bowden went full-blown Diddy's offense.

Note:  I liken Beasley's Auburn career to that of Tony Richardson.  Underused while in college but had/has had a long NFL career.

Bowden tried to use Beasley at RB.  Fred was way too slow.  I think his NFL Combine 40 time was 5.0.  He was a FB, plain and simple.  BTW, is widely considered by Niner fans to be one of the best values they ever picked up on the draft. 
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