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Fuck Pete Thamel (Again)
« on: January 06, 2011, 09:31:49 AM »
Guess who decided to drudge up his completely irrelevant non-story from 5 years ago conveniently 4 days before Auburn plays in the National Championship Game?

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/06/sports/ncaafootball/06auburn.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

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Auburn Is First in One Ranking, 85th in Another
By PETE THAMEL
PARADISE VALLEY, Ariz. — In the aftermath of a football academic scandal at Auburn in 2006 that caused two department heads to step down and the N.C.A.A. to investigate, university officials are no longer bragging — or even talking — about the team’s once-stellar scholastic record.

Auburn’s top-ranked football team, which is preparing to play Oregon in Glendale, Ariz., for the national title on Monday, has tumbled in the N.C.A.A.’s most important academic measurement to No. 85 from No. 4 among the 120 major college football programs.

The decline came after the university closed several academic loopholes following a New York Times article in 2006 that showed numerous football players padded their grade-point averages and remained eligible through independent-study-style courses that required little or no work. Auburn has earned a certain sort of praise from those who were its toughest critics in 2006.

“Auburn was in a rogue position and they corrected it,” said Gordon Gee, who in 2006, when he was Vanderbilt’s chancellor, was stunned that Auburn was ranked higher than his university. Gee is now president of Ohio State. “When those loopholes are closed and the issue is dramatically different, it shows that the loophole was being used. I applaud Auburn. They really did make a concerted effort to curb those abuses. We should applaud them even if they dropped 80 points.”

Auburn’s drop in the Academic Progress Rate, a four-year assessment of the movement toward graduation for a team’s players, is the third largest in college football since 2006, behind Mississippi’s (to 113 from 18) and Florida State’s (to 105 from 17). Since 2006, both Florida State and Michigan have endured academic scandals, with Michigan’s ranking falling to 84 from 27.

Among all the bowl teams this season, Auburn has the highest disparity in the graduation rates between white players (100 percent) and black players (49 percent), according to a study at the Institute for Diversity and Ethics in Sport at the University of Central Florida.

Jim Gundlach, the Auburn sociology professor who uncovered the academic abuse, saw the decline in the team’s ranking as progress. “A genuine consequence to this has been that the people who want to do things right have gotten a bit more grasp over what the university is trying to do,” he said.

Auburn’s athletic director, Jay Jacobs, declined to comment. The Tigers’ second-year football coach, Gene Chizik, said of his team’s academic performance and support, “We do a great job, so we’re not concerned with that.” When pressed on the issue of graduating black players, Chizik said, “Those are circumstances; there’s all kinds of different things.”

In 2006, Auburn football was No. 1 among public universities in the academic ranking, alongside private institutions like Duke and Boston College. But some irregularities had caught Gundlach’s attention two years earlier.

He saw on television that an academic football player of the week was an Auburn sociology major, yet Gundlach was surprised that he had never had him in class. He asked two other sociology professors, who also did not recall having him as their student. Gundlach dug through records and soon found that Auburn football players were graduating as sociology majors without taking sociology courses in the classroom.

He found that 18 players on Auburn’s undefeated 2004 team had taken 97 directed-reading course hours — independent study-style classes — from Thomas Petee, the sociology department’s highest-ranking member. Petee taught 252 independent studies in one academic year, 2004-5, astounding Auburn faculty members, who said that overseeing 10 independent studies would be considered ambitious.

In investigating the situation, the university found that another professor, James Witte, had taught an inordinate number of directed-reading classes. The investigation did not find fault in the athletic department because the courses were available to and taken by all students.

The N.C.A.A. investigation yielded secondary violations. Witte, the program coordinator for adult education, and Petee stepped down as department chairmen, and Petee was later forced to stop teaching after an audit revealed that he had changed grades without the approval of professors.

Petee did not respond to a request seeking comment, and a woman who answered the telephone at his house said that he was not available. Petee’s lawyer also declined to comment. Witte did not return a call or respond to an e-mail seeking comment.

Another factor in Auburn’s precipitous drop was the university’s decision to hire Chizik to replace Tommy Tuberville as the football coach two years ago. Kevin Lennon, the N.C.A.A. vice president for membership services, said that rankings can dip after coaching changes because of the number of players who transfer.

But Thomas S. Paskus, the N.C.A.A.’s principal research scientist, said that a drop as large as Auburn’s was irregular.

“It’s unlikely that a change of that nature would be part of normal fluctuation,” he said. “These numbers do fluctuate, and football is a very large sport. There’s a lot of factors that could be involved, and whether this was due to one of those factors is difficult to tell.”

Another factor in the Auburn case was the sudden death of Virgil Starks, the senior associate athletic director for student athlete support. He died of cardiac arrest while driving home from an Auburn football game in 2008.

“I don’t know if the falling in the ratings as precipitously as it did there has anything to do with Virgil’s passing from the scene; he certainly did an excellent job there,” said the former Auburn president William Muse, who recruited Starks. “I’m disappointed to hear that the rankings are as low as they are.”

The senior linebacker Josh Bynes said he did not know what impact Starks’s death had on the program. Bynes, who is black, appeared more bothered by the graduation-rate disparity between black and white players than in the plunging numbers in the Academic Progress Rate. When asked for reasons, Bynes began to answer.

“Maybe because it’s — never mind,” said Bynes, who graduated in December. “I don’t want to say nothing.”

The senior offensive lineman Mike Berry, who also graduated, cited sociological reasons for the disparity. “School systems coming out of high school and stuff like that,” he said.

He added: “It’s one of those things; we put an emphasis on not getting around things. You’re not going to be able to do that in the real world.”

As for Gundlach, his fate was not uncommon for a whistle-blower. He left the university two years ago because of what he called “an ongoing sense of discomfort” after his revelations. He received dozens of hate calls and letters from Auburn fans. Although the university was unable to dismiss the tenured Petee — he is now a consultant for Auburn University at Montgomery — Gundlach said he was proud of exposing the academic fraud.

“The things that I did in the process of going out was one of the best things I’ve ever done for Auburn,” he said. “In the long run, it will eventually do more.”

When asked about the decline in the Academic Progress Rate, he chuckled and said, “I consider that the Gundlach effect.”
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Re: Fuck Pete Thamel (Again)
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2011, 09:52:22 AM »
Someone really should Fuck these news people up.....soprano style.
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Re: phuk Pete Thamel (Again)
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2011, 10:05:41 AM »
Thayer, Thamel, Forde.......... fuck'em and feed'em fish heads.
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Re: Fuck Pete Thamel (Again)
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2011, 10:06:35 AM »
Some nice blogger really needs to start posting the details from Thamel's wife beating days.
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Re: Fuck Pete Thamel (Again)
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2011, 10:07:38 AM »
No disrespect to you Chad, but I couldn't even read all of it. If it were anyone else, not counting the dipshit from Orlando, I might be inclined to read it. This guy is just looking for a story and he is just piggy-backing on success for a controversy. 10 times worse than Fartbaum in mind.

I'm with GH on this, somebody call Uncle Tony.
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Re: Fuck Pete Thamel (Again)
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2011, 10:31:56 AM »
Doesn't this Thamel guy know that Wednesday isn't the day these hit pieces come out?  It's supposed to be Thursday around 9pm.  He's slipping.
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Re: Fuck Pete Thamel (Again)
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2011, 10:34:51 AM »
This shit just got posted on my fb wall by a bammer who said..."No more talk about how Auburn is the smart school in the state."

Really?

I just said, "fine. We'll just talk about how Auburn is the school with the best team in the state."

I like that conversation better anyway.
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Re: Fuck Pete Thamel (Again)
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2011, 10:37:51 AM »
I thought Samford was the smart school in the State.
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Re: Fuck Pete Thamel (Again)
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2011, 10:45:48 AM »
I thought Samford was the smart school in the State.

No...they just steal Christmas decorations at Samford.
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Re: Fuck Pete Thamel (Again)
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2011, 10:53:39 AM »
This shit just got posted on my fb wall by a bammer who said..."No more talk about how Auburn is the smart school in the state."

Really?

I just said, "fine. We'll just talk about how Auburn is the school with the best team in the state."

I like that conversation better anyway.

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