Seastrunk Apologizes To Saban

[Greaseyweasel]

I take the apology to be a reaffirmation that he is not really considering Auburn if another offer is made.
The kid decided he better not burn any bridges. I actually look for him to sign with Texas but in the meantime he realizes that he has not got any scholly yet and he doesn't need to piss off any coach of a major program.
Simple public relations.
As for it being a bad thing for Auburn it is a demonstration by a top level recruit that Auburn is at this time unable to stand on its own and lock in any recruit it wants. It, like the tiger prowl & the big cat weekend are signs of desperation in the eyes of the 16, 17, 18 year old potentials that Auburn wants to sign.
In today's football climate you cannot afford to show any weakness.

[Kaos]

I don't necessarily disagree with you Kaos, but I would like to hear your reasons why...

If, as many have speculated, his mother put him up to apologizing there are a couple of potentially negative factors at play in that regard.


Mom could be angry and disappointed that Auburn allowed her son to be placed in a position to where he would make an error in judgement that required apology. It could be construed as a lack of discipline/consideration on the part of the Auburn coaching staff.  If this is the case, her forcing him to apologize only emphasizes her displeasure. You can bet that Texas and LSU and whoever else are telling her that they won't let her son get up to any rinky-dink hijinks that will place him in an awkward situation. They'll take better care of her son than those imbeciles at Auburn with their childish pie eating contests and backwood hayrides.  He'll get an education and learn among men of character and dignity, not a bunch of hooligans acting like jackasses on a street corner. 

Beyond that, the apology -- actually the percieved necessity of the apology -- DOES make Auburn look rinky dink and spins the entire weekend negatively. 

It gives them ammunition they hardly need, IMO.

[Snaggletiger]

Oh good god. 

[Kaos]

Oh good god. 

Drinking again?

[Snaggletiger]

Drinking again?

What about that post suggests drinking?  Sorry to disappoint, but most of the time, the drinking thing is a joke.  However, two glasses of wine at 8:00 tonight may qualify me as blitzed.  Nice "speculation" about what Mom may be thinking and how it negatively affects Auburn.  That sounds more like a bourbon induced post than anything else.  It's just sad to see people, especially Auburn people, playing into the spin of Bammers and others concerning anything positive this staff tries to do.  In the first place, Seastrunk is a LOOOOONNNG Shot.  If he shot his pie hole off in the heat of the moment and feels bad about it when he reflects back...how does that affect Auburn?  Is this the first time an athlete has apologized for his words or actions?  Well?  

You've absolutely RIPPED people for quoting or even listening to Paul Finebaum.  Why? Because his anti-Auburn propoganda affects Auburn.  How many times have you said it?  However, here you are on a public forum, constantly ripping this staff....ripping the AD...ripping those who support this staff...and now "Specualting" on how an apology by a recruit who hasn't signed, verbaled or otherwise committed to Auburn...is somehow reflecting negatively on the University.  Rinky dink?        

[The Prowler]

Kaos, you do realize that Lache's mother was there at the "Rollin' Toomer's" festival, right?  What Lache said, was done in the heat of the moment...something that he told Coach midget and Coach midget understood.  To me it shows that this kid is a classy type of person and felt bad for, somewhat, calling out the rival HC of the University that he's considering.  Also, greaseybammer...you apparently don't know Jack Shit about recruiting and what kids think is special.  Did you not read any of the comments made by the prospects that visited the "Big Cat Weekend" or from the prospects that saw Auburn, roll up seven deep, to see them during the much publicized "Tiger Prowl"?  Apparently not.

[Greaseyweasel]

Ummmm prowler I do know what kids of that age think just as well as you or anyone else on this board does. I also take everything that I read pro and negative Auburn with a grain of salt since there is no such thing as totally unbiased reporting. You take only the things you perceive as being pro-Auburn to be the truth.  If the reports from the big cat weekend are to be believed where are the comments from the prospects who weren't that impressed or that came to Auburn only to try and bag some pussy for that weekend? Remember the comments from the prospects that you read were handpicked from the best given to fit the articles that you read.

[Kaos]

What about that post suggests drinking?  Sorry to disappoint, but most of the time, the drinking thing is a joke.  However, two glasses of wine at 8:00 tonight may qualify me as blitzed.  Nice "speculation" about what Mom may be thinking and how it negatively affects Auburn.  That sounds more like a bourbon induced post than anything else.  It's just sad to see people, especially Auburn people, playing into the spin of Bammers and others concerning anything positive this staff tries to do.  In the first place, Seastrunk is a LOOOOONNNG Shot.  If he shot his pie hole off in the heat of the moment and feels bad about it when he reflects back...how does that affect Auburn?  Is this the first time an athlete has apologized for his words or actions?  Well?  

You've absolutely RIPPED people for quoting or even listening to Paul Finebaum.  Why? Because his anti-Auburn propoganda affects Auburn.  How many times have you said it?  However, here you are on a public forum, constantly ripping this staff....ripping the AD...ripping those who support this staff...and now "Specualting" on how an apology by a recruit who hasn't signed, verbaled or otherwise committed to Auburn...is somehow reflecting negatively on the University.  Rinky dink?        

As was my comment about drinking also a joke.  Unwind thy ass.

I don't listen to Finebaum and I have no idea what his response to this is.  My ideas are mine and mine alone. They are not influenced by bama propoganda or anything else. Having moved away from Tuscaloosa a year ago, I am not exposed to that idiocy on a daily basis any longer.

If you can't see how this takes the luster off what was a fun and positive event, that's not my problem. I would assume that the state media is raping Auburn -- starting with Evan Woodberry deciding there were NCAA violations and running with that ridiculous shit -- because it's standard MO.  My point was not that i think it's rinky dink because what I think is meaningless, but that his apology -- and the need for it -- will be spun that way.  It will negatively affect his recruiting because of the questions that will inevitably be asked of him (as evidenced by the barrage of call-in shows referenced in this thread).

Funny to see everybody now backing off and saying it was a long shot to sign the guy when up until last weekend there was unbridled optimism ranging from "he's gonna" to "he already has" coming from every corner. You don't see that as a negative in any way, shape or form?  You don't see that instead of helping Auburn's relationship with the kid, now there's an awkwardness because he had to make a public apology for something? You don't think the state media is going to latch on to this and drill Auburn, doing everything it ist power to undermine recruiting?  Okay then.  

When has an athlete making a public apology NOT reflected on the team?  Well?

If I was writing my thoughts in the newspaper or hosting a talk radio show then maybe you'd have a point.  As I'm not and don't...... strike two.  Sorry you didn't bother to read what I wrote before you flew off.  If you had, you'd understand my meaning.

[Snaggletiger]

I read everthing and knew exactly where you were coming from.  The point is a stretch at best when trying to equate an apology by a high school kid to negative publicity for Auburn.  I'll concede that it's an argument worth debating; however, the timing of making this very argument is what made me "Fly off".  (The above is not flying off.  A bourbon induced "Fuck you, you fucking fuck" would be flying off for me)

By timing, I mean that yesterday actually was a pretty big deal for Auburn.  I know all about February and no one has signed yet and on and on and on.  But, securing public commitments from high school kids has become the trend in recruiting over the past few years.  Nick Saviour has been running roughshod over Auburn and just about everyone else in the country in the recruiting game and picking up verbals from top rated kids as recently as this past Thursday.  The media in this State slobbers his schlong no matter what the man does.  Auburn, on the other hand, has been making every attempt to get back in the game and start competing for some of these studs.  You can't win or compete in this league without em'.  The debate over coaching is moot if you don't have top rated talent in your program.

Gimmicky methods?  Probably.  But yesterday finally netted some results and hopefully started some momentum. AU picks up a verbal from one the top players in this State and around the country.  He even points to this past weekend as something that helped seal the deal and wants to try and start convincing some of these other big timers to come aboard as well.  I was actually curious as to what your take would be.  Believe it or not, I was interested to see if you, a sports writer in this State and huge Auburn man, might give a little credit where credit is due and take even a modicum of satisfaction in a little tit for tat with our cross State rivals.  Getting a verbal from a top rated athlete in June is not something to go roll Toomer's Corner over and I certainly don't expect you or anyone else to slob Chizik's knob over it either.  However, I did expect your lone contribution to the first real positive day for Auburn in a while to be a little more than a spin on how Lache Seastrunk and his Moms apologizing reflects badly on Auburn.   

[Kaos]

I read everthing and knew exactly where you were coming from.  The point is a stretch at best when trying to equate an apology by a high school kid to negative publicity for Auburn.  I'll concede that it's an argument worth debating; however, the timing of making this very argument is what made me "Fly off".  (The above is not flying off.  A bourbon induced "Fuck you, you fucking fuck" would be flying off for me)

By timing, I mean that yesterday actually was a pretty big deal for Auburn.  I know all about February and no one has signed yet and on and on and on.  But, securing public commitments from high school kids has become the trend in recruiting over the past few years.  Nick Saviour has been running roughshod over Auburn and just about everyone else in the country in the recruiting game and picking up verbals from top rated kids as recently as this past Thursday.  The media in this State slobbers his schlong no matter what the man does.  Auburn, on the other hand, has been making every attempt to get back in the game and start competing for some of these studs.  You can't win or compete in this league without em'.  The debate over coaching is moot if you don't have top rated talent in your program.

Gimmicky methods?  Probably.  But yesterday finally netted some results and hopefully started some momentum. AU picks up a verbal from one the top players in this State and around the country.  He even points to this past weekend as something that helped seal the deal and wants to try and start convincing some of these other big timers to come aboard as well.  I was actually curious as to what your take would be.  Believe it or not, I was interested to see if you, a sports writer in this State and huge Auburn man, might give a little credit where credit is due and take even a modicum of satisfaction in a little tit for tat with our cross State rivals.  Getting a verbal from a top rated athlete in June is not something to go roll Toomer's Corner over and I certainly don't expect you or anyone else to slob Chizik's knob over it either.  However, I did expect your lone contribution to the first real positive day for Auburn in a while to be a little more than a spin on how Lache Seastrunk and his Moms apologizing reflects badly on Auburn.  

I did not create the timing, I merely responded to it.  Whether you or I see it as a negative, you must realize that it will be construed as such and used against Auburn. That was the point.

I was also driving all day yesterday and really didn't know anything about the Richardson kid. And to be fair, when have I ever really had much comment on recruiting?  it's not something I pay a lot of attention to.

Did the weekend net results? I can't say. Was he an Auburn "lock" from the start? Many seemed to think so (and not just post-commit bama sour grapers).  Maybe it was a consequence of the recruiting weekend and maybe it will pay dividends down the line. One can hope.

Better question? Why are you and I both up late and also early?

[Snaggletiger]

Because you complete me.

[El Guapo]

It was nice of him to apologize, though it didn't really need to. I guarantee that Saban didn't think it was a big deal, nor did any competent 'Bama fan.

Also, I really hope you guys get this kid. Ballers on both sides of the rivalry make it all the better.