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America prepares to bow down to N. Korea

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Re: America prepares to bow down to N. Korea
« Reply #40 on: May 27, 2009, 04:22:44 PM »
If the damn Democrat Kennedy would have gotten the Bay of Pigs right and not taken away Black Bag ops, this situation would have been dealt with long ago, but thats just my opinion.

Yes, I know you were making a movie reference but it is true.

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Re: America prepares to bow down to N. Korea
« Reply #41 on: May 27, 2009, 04:29:34 PM »
Yes, I know you were making a movie reference but it is true.


Actually the Korean Conflict was the movie reference.  The opinion of Kennedy and Black Bag Ops were my actual thoughts. I know its hard to tell the difference, I have a hard time myself sometimes.
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Re: America prepares to bow down to N. Korea
« Reply #42 on: May 27, 2009, 05:24:40 PM »
We know where the Troll Doll's reactors are.  I think surgical strikes bombing the fuck out of NK would resolve a lot of issues. 

1.  The immediate threat would be gone.

2.  No one other than a few NKs give a fuck about NK.  They are leeches with a nuclear bomb.  I am not so sure that there would be much response except for a few "You pissed in our backyard" statements from the ChiComs and Russia.  Big fucking whoop.  We use surgical precision to excise a tumor that everyone else obviously wants gone and no one else has to get their hands dirty.  We did that to Libya and got some throat clearing from the UN and that was about it.  What is China or Russia gonna do? Invade Alaska as retailliation for an attack on NK?  Please. 

3.  Our guys would get some valuable live action target practice.  Sweet.

Now, do I think the ONE has the stones to do that?

Not a fucking chance.
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Re: America prepares to bow down to N. Korea
« Reply #43 on: May 27, 2009, 09:10:28 PM »
The little rat bastard should have been taken out long ago. Now that the ball less one is in office kim jong is gonna try and see just how much obama will take. I'm positive the one has the UN on this...who will prompty threaten to sanction etc., etc...
The bitch of it is how the media will end up spinning whatever happens. Bet your ass before it's over it will be W's fault.
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Re: America prepares to bow down to N. Korea
« Reply #44 on: May 27, 2009, 09:53:59 PM »
Actually the Korean Conflict was the movie reference.  The opinion of Kennedy and Black Bag Ops were my actual thoughts. I know its hard to tell the difference, I have a hard time myself sometimes.

OK, I'll just hang up now and get back to listening to teh AM radio.
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Re: America prepares to bow down to N. Korea
« Reply #45 on: May 31, 2009, 12:46:54 PM »
I hope that you all will indulge my late post on this issue but another thought came to my mind on this issue; especially after watching a spirited discussion about it on Fox News Sunday this morning.

Japan and South Korea are both regional allies and as such are de facto protected by our 'nuclear umbrella' but I was surprised to hear that neither nation is actually nuclear armed.  That could fairly easily be remedied by the US.  Not sure if this would help for us to do so in an immediate sense but it would certainly change the dynamics of our relationship with the Chi-comms and the Russkies in terms of putting pressure on them to solve this problem with their pot-bellied, god-less communist dictator friend in Pyongyang.  Even the threat of our arming South Korea and Japan (or, perhaps, the Republic of China {Taiwan}, eh?) could change the situation.

Anyway, just a thought before I forgot it.
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The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
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The government solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem.
-Milton Friedman

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Re: America prepares to bow down to N. Korea
« Reply #46 on: May 31, 2009, 01:02:39 PM »
I hope that you all will indulge my late post on this issue but another thought came to my mind on this issue; especially after watching a spirited discussion about it on Fox News Sunday this morning.

Japan and South Korea are both regional allies and as such are de facto protected by our 'nuclear umbrella' but I was surprised to hear that neither nation is actually nuclear armed.  That could fairly easily be remedied by the US.  Not sure if this would help for us to do so in an immediate sense but it would certainly change the dynamics of our relationship with the Chi-comms and the Russkies in terms of putting pressure on them to solve this problem with their pot-bellied, god-less communist dictator friend in Pyongyang.  Even the threat of our arming South Korea and Japan (or, perhaps, the Republic of China {Taiwan}, eh?) could change the situation.

Anyway, just a thought before I forgot it.
I'm pretty sure the treaty signed after WWII stipulates that Japan can never become a nuclear power, and that they cannot have a fighting force per se, only a "defense force".
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Re: America prepares to bow down to N. Korea
« Reply #47 on: May 31, 2009, 01:19:48 PM »
All right. I'll say it. 'Cause Truman was too much of a pussy to let MacArthur go in there and blow out those Commie bastards!
And Bush 1 was too much of a pussy to let Schwarzkopf finish Saddam when we had all the tools sitting there ready willing and able.
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Re: America prepares to bow down to N. Korea
« Reply #48 on: May 31, 2009, 02:05:42 PM »
I'm pretty sure the treaty signed after WWII stipulates that Japan can never become a nuclear power, and that they cannot have a fighting force per se, only a "defense force".

Never say never with human beings. 
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Re: America prepares to bow down to N. Korea
« Reply #49 on: May 31, 2009, 05:11:17 PM »
     Well my opinion doesn't count for much, besides I'm one of those damn democrats you guys seem to hate (I'm to poor to be a republican), but  I believe I'd have to agree with TigerWench.  If the nuclear weapons are the problem, fly a couple of stealth bombers over there and take them out.  Seems like I read somewhere you can blow them up without actually setting them off, but maybe not.  If it takes them another 5 or 10 years to put the program back together, just blow it apart again then.
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Re: America prepares to bow down to N. Korea
« Reply #50 on: June 10, 2009, 05:29:30 PM »
As a follow-up it looks like the UN is going to send another letter to the little NK tyrant after all.  Surprisingly, China and Russia have actually agreed to back a draft resolution to "curb" loans to North Korea in addition to continuing the interdiction of cargo to and from NK.  The real proof of China's and Russia's support will come if their U. N. representatives sign on to the real resolution in coming days.

Here's an excerpt from Bloomberg:

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China, Russia Agree to Back U.S. on North Korea Curbs (Update2)


By Bill Varner

June 10 (Bloomberg) -- China and Russia will back a United Nations draft resolution that would seek to curb loans and money transfers to North Korea as punishment for its nuclear-bomb test and missile launches, U.S. and Japanese diplomats said.

The U.S., Japan, China, Russia, Britain, France and South Korea agreed on the text during negotiations after North Korea detonated a nuclear bomb on May 25, U.S. Ambassador Susan Rice said. Support from China and Russia, which have resisted tighter sanctions on North Korea, makes it likely the draft resolution will be adopted unanimously this week.

The text calls for the interdiction at seaports, airports or in international waters of any cargo suspected of containing nuclear or missile-related materials going to or from North Korea. It would prohibit the refueling or servicing of such vessels at sea, and would require any ship to proceed to a convenient port for inspection in the event consent for boarding is refused.
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http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601085&sid=aLHFniH1sBD0
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The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
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The government solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem.
-Milton Friedman

The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'
-Ronald Reagan

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
-Thomas Jefferson