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Tubs' Post-Game Presser
« on: November 16, 2008, 06:19:16 PM »
Make sure you watch the last 30 seconds.

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Now let me ask the question - What the hell?
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Re: Tubs' Post-Game Presser
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2008, 07:23:24 PM »
yeah, after Brad Lester running his mouth i wondered why he wasn't playing. hopefully we will get the chance to shut him up.
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Re: Tubs' Post-Game Presser
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2008, 09:40:02 PM »
His answer about Fannin makes me wonder if he actually heard the question correctly, because his answer would be what you would expect if somebody asked him why Fannin was in for those last two plays, not why he was not.
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Re: Tubs' Post-Game Presser
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2008, 10:06:09 PM »
I'm glad this got reposted. 

Seriously.  As I said in an earlier thread, he was dejected and depressed.  He gave up.  He either didn't know the answer or didn't care.  Mumbling some bullshit and then running away is a sissy way of handling a loss. 

If this is Tuberville's last hoorah, he better not go out a crybaby.
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Re: Tubs' Post-Game Presser
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2008, 12:08:02 AM »
I think he'd just had it with the type of questions.  The team showed a lot of improvement and showed up against GA, and the first questions out of the press pie holes were questioning his decisions.   I think he just said fuck it, and decided to get back with his team.   He also visited with recruits immediately after, and by all accounts, those visits went very well.   

I personally don't blame him for taking off.  He might not give a shit about the negative press, but I don't think that translates to the team and what he's trying to accomplish there.

JMO...
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Re: Tubs' Post-Game Presser
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2008, 12:16:49 AM »
I think he'd just had it with the type of questions.  The team showed a lot of improvement and showed up against GA, and the first questions out of the press pie holes were questioning his decisions.   I think he just said fuck it, and decided to get back with his team.   He also visited with recruits immediately after, and by all accounts, those visits went very well.   

I personally don't blame him for taking off.  He might not give a shit about the negative press, but I don't think that translates to the team and what he's trying to accomplish there.

JMO...

But Chop, the questions are VALID ones. 

Why didn't Brad Lester play?  Nobody knows.

Why was Fannin sitting out with the game on the line?  So far I've heard from Tuberville, Gran and Dunn. None of them knew. Two of the three seemed completely unaware that he hadn't been in.

Why didn't AU try to get the first down on fourth and two with 4:00 left instead of flinging a low-percentage shot at the endzone?  Did Fuckfinger pick up Les Miles' playbook by accident?

Why did AU waste 27 seconds on the last drive trying to figure out what play to call? Those seconds would have come in awful handy on fourth and one at the 14. 

Why, on fourth and two with 4:00 left -- of you're GOING to gun it for the endzone -- don't you at least roll Kodi out so he can maybe get to the corner and get a FD if nobody's open?

Why, when Mario Fannin is averaging nearly five yards a pop, do you keep giving the ball to 1.9 yard Tate to fall down two yards deep?

When you're making eleventy fucking billion dollars a year, you damn well better stand your ass up and answer questions about what you were thinking when you lose a winnable game. 

Those questions don't discount the improvement. The "improvement" was enough to win the game. They do beg answers.

And for the record?  Wes Byrum can kiss my ass.  Fuck him.  He needs to get his head out of his ass.  Missed FGs against Arkansas put that one in the loss column.  Missed PAT against Vandy tacked up the loss there.  If there was ANY confidence that he can make even a chip shot FG, the late-game scenario changes dramatically.  Fuck, if AU could execute something simple like a PAT, everything against UGA changes at the end.  Byrum is personally, individually responsible for three or four losses.  If he had his shit together, this disaster, as bad as it is, would be an 8-win season, working on 9.  That's painful, but not a disaster. So fuck him. 
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Re: Tubs' Post-Game Presser
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2008, 12:24:17 AM »
But Chop, the questions are VALID ones. 

Why didn't Brad Lester play?  Nobody knows.

Why was Fannin sitting out with the game on the line?  So far I've heard from Tuberville, Gran and Dunn. None of them knew. Two of the three seemed completely unaware that he hadn't been in.

Why didn't AU try to get the first down on fourth and two with 4:00 left instead of flinging a low-percentage shot at the endzone?  Did Fuckfinger pick up Les Miles' playbook by accident?

Why did AU waste 27 seconds on the last drive trying to figure out what play to call? Those seconds would have come in awful handy on fourth and one at the 14. 

Why, on fourth and two with 4:00 left -- of you're GOING to gun it for the endzone -- don't you at least roll Kodi out so he can maybe get to the corner and get a FD if nobody's open?

Why, when Mario Fannin is averaging nearly five yards a pop, do you keep giving the ball to 1.9 yard Tate to fall down two yards deep?

When you're making eleventy fucking billion dollars a year, you damn well better stand your ass up and answer questions about what you were thinking when you lose a winnable game. 

I hear ya.  Don't so much disagree with you rather than saying I can see another point of view.  I'm glad we looked better, and a lot of the questions you asked are valid, yet also hind sight 20/20 type questions also.  I'm sure there's a lot of things we could have done differently. 

Ultimately at the end we were able to take 3 good shots at the end zone.  We didn't make it.  We were there for a chance to win.  Something we haven't been able to do in other games this year.   I'm sure it wasn't an intentional effort to lose.  That much I'm sure of.

SO, I hear you, and agree it could have been better, but I'll take the improvement under the circumstances of which I've had to stomach the rest of this year.

Fair enough?

(quite possibly one of my top 5 worst written posts ever....hope you understood the point though...)
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Re: Tubs' Post-Game Presser
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2008, 12:44:05 AM »
I hear ya.  Don't so much disagree with you rather than saying I can see another point of view.  I'm glad we looked better, and a lot of the questions you asked are valid, yet also hind sight 20/20 type questions also.  I'm sure there's a lot of things we could have done differently. 

Ultimately at the end we were able to take 3 good shots at the end zone.  We didn't make it.  We were there for a chance to win.  Something we haven't been able to do in other games this year.   I'm sure it wasn't an intentional effort to lose.  That much I'm sure of.

SO, I hear you, and agree it could have been better, but I'll take the improvement under the circumstances of which I've had to stomach the rest of this year.

Fair enough?

(quite possibly one of my top 5 worst written posts ever....hope you understood the point though...)

I understand the point, but I don't think that's the issue. 

Nobody is saying we didn't look some better.  But those questions are pretty huge in context, particularly the questions as to Lester's status and why the most valuable player of the day was scratching his nuts on the sideline when AU was trying to win the game.  Those questions are completely in bounds and Tuberville makes too much money to not know or not have the answer. 

Not asking him to be Saban and tell the reporter "Fuck you, why don't you come run the team you dripping piece of shit, how dare you ask me a question like that... "  But he should have at least had an answer -- even if it was bullshit -- to give there.
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Re: Tubs' Post-Game Presser
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2008, 12:53:42 AM »
I hear ya.  Again, not disagreeing with you so much as saying I can see another point of view is all.
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Re: Tubs' Post-Game Presser
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2008, 01:00:55 AM »
I hear ya.  Again, not disagreeing with you so much as saying I can see another point of view is all.

All I'm saying is that Tuberville should have answered those questions.  They weren't out of line.   Not bitching about the improvement, not saying things didn't get a little better, not discounting the effort. Just that he should have answered the question -- or at least been aware.
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Re: Tubs' Post-Game Presser
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2008, 08:27:03 AM »
Fannin's two plays were the first time in 11 games this year where somebody stepped up and showed the ability to be a real playmaker in this league.  He scored the only two TDs of the game and he wasn't even on the field.  Inexfuckingcusable. 

Brad Lester is a senior from Georgia and playing in the last home game of his career..against Georgia.  Not injured...he just didn't play.  Thanks for your sacrifice and service there Bradley.

This had better be Tuberville's last hoorah.
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Re: Tubs' Post-Game Presser
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2008, 08:55:49 AM »
I really understand why Tate was in the game late, I really do.  In passing situations, you have to have a back that can block, and Fannin has not shown any blocking ability in his time on the Plains so far.
My question at that point, was why not 2 backs?  There were only 2 WR's that were actually getting open anyway, so why not go to a max-protect look and slip Fannin out for a screen or three?  Who knows...maybe he could have drawn the LB's up and left the middle of the field open for somebody else???
I guess that would just make too much sense though.  Just keep flinging the ball deep and hope for a PI call.  That worked so well on the last 2 drives, why not just do it every series against bammer?
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Re: Tubs' Post-Game Presser
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2008, 09:32:25 AM »
I really understand why Tate was in the game late, I really do.  In passing situations, you have to have a back that can block, and Fannin has not shown any blocking ability in his time on the Plains so far.
My question at that point, was why not 2 backs?  There were only 2 WR's that were actually getting open anyway, so why not go to a max-protect look and slip Fannin out for a screen or three?  Who knows...maybe he could have drawn the LB's up and left the middle of the field open for somebody else???
I guess that would just make too much sense though.  Just keep flinging the ball deep and hope for a PI call.  That worked so well on the last 2 drives, why not just do it every series against bammer?
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I'm with you. I do not see the greatness of Tate. He is just a step slow for the lack of sustained blocking we have. When Fannin or Lester decide to go up field, it is with a burst. That burst allows them to get a few more yards and maybe even break it out a little better than Tate. Tate does have an uncanny ability to get out of jams, but overall, I feel he is just a step slow for this offense. The holes just aren't there long enough for him to really create a threat. It's like running Danley when you have an almost KI sitting. Lester must have really pissed off somebody. Or maybe they think that Tate is such a pounder that he is more consistent. The problem is, he gets stopped short just as much as the other guys, but he doesn't have the burst. I mentioned this at the first of the year. I just do not understand how Lester could be so bad that he is now 3rd?
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Re: Tubs' Post-Game Presser
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2008, 10:14:02 AM »
Ensminger needs to be tagged and released back to high school ball after this season.
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Re: Tubs' Post-Game Presser
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2008, 10:39:49 AM »
There was one play call that I remember going "what the fuck" and that was the play on 4th and 2 with about 4 minutes left...but guys, the rest of the game was called really well IMO. I don't have a huge problem with Fanin not being out on the field. We drove the ball down the field in under 2 minutes and had a chance to score. We should have gotten a pass interference call in the end zone which would have put us close...Fanin not on the field was NOT the reason we lost the ball game. It wasn't even one of the reasons...I still just don't think that Fanin is the end all be all that everyone is making him out to be...granted, he played well, but Bo Jackson he is not...

We lost the game because we fucked up another extra point...and missed an additional FG. We make either one of those and the ball game is over. We can kick a FG on 4th down either of the last 2 drives we had...

And the Defense played a really good game too...after the first quarter. Coach Rhodes made some good adjustments after the first quarter and then really limited what UGA did for much of the day after that. They only TD they had in the second half came after we scored and then kicked the ball out of bounds giving them the ball at the 40...and then having the WORST FUCKING PI CALL I HAVE EVER SEEN!!! Then Tubby blew up so UGA started their drive on Auburn's 40 ard line....that is a tough situation to put your defense in. Then AJ Green made a great catch from a great throw! The defense was there...the pass and catch were just a great play made by 2 future NFL players....

I am not making excuses, but come on guys, you sound like a bunch of whiney fucking alabama fans. This year is fucked and it has sucked...but what you hope to see is the players not giving up and working hard and being competitive. I think that happened. With the progression this team has made and Auburn getting most of the starters back on Defense, we have a shot at Alabama. 3 weeks ago I wouldn't have said that...

And if we could have picked 1 game to win in the last 2...I think all you fuckers would be ok with it being the next one...
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Re: Tubs' Post-Game Presser
« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2008, 11:10:19 AM »
well said in my book. 

I didn't have a problem with Fannin not being there either. 

Course I was in my eighth or ninth Patron shot at The Bucket Shop by that point so things were getting a bit fuzzy.  I do however remember breaking the brain out on some UGA fans at the bar that were running their mouth.

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Re: Tubs' Post-Game Presser
« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2008, 11:19:52 AM »
well said in my book. 

I didn't have a problem with Fannin not being there either. 

Course I was my eighth or ninth Patron shot at The Bucket Shop by that point so things were getting a bit fuzzy.  I do however remember breaking the brain out on some UGA fans at the bar that were running their mouth.

Good Times!

Damnit man, what have we told you about breaking your brain out? 

But seriously, I do have a huge problem with Fannin on the sidelines.  Our offense has been the worst piece of anemic shit I've ever seen.  Fannin scores not one, but two highlite reel TDs.  I've heard the argument about blocking but guess what, that wasn't Tubs' excuse.  He just said Tate was running the ball well.  I don't think I'd have my only playmaker staying in to block anyway.  Also, Fannin spent most of the season where??? At receiver.  So you try your last ditch effort to win by throwing a corner route to Ben Tate? 

Mario Fannin was the ONLY guy on that offense with the ability to make something happen.  (Maybe a Kodi scramble or two).  If you want to win, you find a way to get the ball to your playmakers.  Not corner routes to Ben Tate when the game is on the line and Fannin on the bench.
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Re: Tubs' Post-Game Presser
« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2008, 11:49:25 AM »
Damnit man, what have we told you about breaking your brain out? 

But seriously, I do have a huge problem with Fannin on the sidelines.  Our offense has been the worst piece of anemic shit I've ever seen.  Fannin scores not one, but two highlite reel TDs.  I've heard the argument about blocking but guess what, that wasn't Tubs' excuse.  He just said Tate was running the ball well.  I don't think I'd have my only playmaker staying in to block anyway.  Also, Fannin spent most of the season where??? At receiver.  So you try your last ditch effort to win by throwing a corner route to Ben Tate? 

Mario Fannin was the ONLY guy on that offense with the ability to make something happen.  (Maybe a Kodi scramble or two).  If you want to win, you find a way to get the ball to your playmakers.  Not corner routes to Ben Tate when the game is on the line and Fannin on the bench.

The biggest problem I have is that on fourth and two at the UGA 21 with 4:00 left we a) don't have enough confidence in the FG kicker to get us closer and b) we throw a hail mary into the endzone instead of running a play that has multiple opportunities for a first down. 
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Re: Tubs' Post-Game Presser
« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2008, 01:02:39 PM »
The biggest problem I have is that on fourth and two at the UGA 21 with 4:00 left we a) don't have enough confidence in the FG kicker to get us closer and b) we throw a hail mary into the endzone instead of running a play that has multiple opportunities for a first down. 

Totally agree!!!
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