Under Armour game

jmar · « **Reply #20 on:** January 05, 2016, 09:57:37 AM »

Quote from: GH2001 on January 05, 2016, 09:02:13 AM

Again, thats a different issue. Thats not recruiting. Were recruiting and landing guys that most schools desire. Thats all we can do on NSD. Development issues are not from recruiting (or lack of).

Agree. But bringing a kid along to maturation and realizing that talent (not necessarily to full potential) is where we lack.
And I know who and what we are competing against so it's easy to always use those fucker's as a measuring stick.
We should.
Nobody else has to contend with Alabama (they have layers of recruiters) at least on this level, sharing the same backyard. So to continue to bring in a top 10 class is a real achievement for our staff IMO.

We just need to let a kid play more when he gets his chance and shows out, an example being the Prattville RB who had two positive back to back plays in a game, he leaves the field and I don't recall hearing his name again in the games that followed.

CCTAU · « **Reply #21 on:** January 05, 2016, 10:01:20 AM »

Quote from: jmar on January 05, 2016, 09:57:37 AM

Agree. But bringing a kid along to maturation and realizing that talent (not necessarily to full potential) is where we lack.
And I know who and what we are competing against so it's easy to always use those fucker's as a measuring stick.
We should.
Nobody else has this to contend with Alabama (they have layers of recruiters) at least on this level. So to continue to bring in a top 10 class is a real achievement for our staff IMO.

We just need to let a kid play more when he gets his chance and shows out, an example being the Prattville RB who had two positive back to back plays in a game, he leaves the field and I don't recall hearing his name again in the games that followed.

He actually started the bowl game and played well. I do wish they would throw to him more.

But I did see a lot of growth form the coaches in the bowl game. They seemed to lean toward playing the guys we, as fans, have thought are the better players, without dissing the other guys. So I think next spring will the the key. I like having Pettway, JR, and Barber in at times. But i would like to see heavy doses of KP and JR!

WiregrassTiger · « **Reply #22 on:** January 05, 2016, 10:05:12 AM »

Quote from: GH2001 on January 05, 2016, 09:02:13 AM

Again, thats a different issue. Thats not recruiting. Were recruiting and landing guys that most schools desire. Thats all we can do on NSD. Development issues are not from recruiting (or lack of).

GH2001 · « **Reply #23 on:** January 05, 2016, 10:13:36 AM »

Quote from: WiregrassTiger on January 05, 2016, 10:05:12 AM

Yet you guys still seem to think landing top 10 classes year after year are THE issue.

The Six · « **Reply #24 on:** January 05, 2016, 10:16:07 AM »

Quote from: GH2001 on January 05, 2016, 10:13:36 AM

Yet you guys still seem to think landing top 10 classes year after year are THE issue.

From Bruce Feldman's Twitter: "Interesting stuff: 3 of the NFL's top 5 pass-rushers were "2-star" recruits out of HS. The 4th was a no-star." http://gridironnow.com/how-nfl-stats-leaders-ranked-as-recruits/

Coaching: it actually matters. - The Six

GH2001 · « **Reply #25 on:** January 05, 2016, 10:19:24 AM »

Quote from: The Six on January 05, 2016, 10:16:07 AM

From Bruce Feldman's Twitter: "Interesting stuff: 3 of the NFL's top 5 pass-rushers were "2-star" recruits out of HS. The 4th was a no-star." http://gridironnow.com/how-nfl-stats-leaders-ranked-as-recruits/

Coaching: it actually matters. - The Six

Don't stop em....they are on a roll.

jmar · « **Reply #26 on:** January 05, 2016, 10:47:23 AM »

Quote from: GH2001 on January 05, 2016, 10:13:36 AM

Yet you guys still seem to think landing top 10 classes year after year are THE issue.

Works for Gus' buddy Hugh Freeze. And the results are there.
Mullen IMO is getting by with moderate overall talent though he seems to "coach them up" as well as anybody.
That's the only issue I would argue.

The Six · « **Reply #27 on:** January 05, 2016, 01:58:38 PM »

Quote from: jmar on January 05, 2016, 10:47:23 AM

Works for Gus' buddy Hugh Freeze. And the results are there.
Mullen IMO is getting by with moderate overall talent though he seems to "coach them up" as well as anybody.
That's the only issue I would argue.

Hugh Freeze turned Laramy Tunsil, LaQuon Treadwell, and Robert Nkdemdche into ZERO National, SEC, and West Division championships.

WiregrassTiger · « **Reply #28 on:** January 05, 2016, 02:54:58 PM »

Quote from: The Six on January 05, 2016, 01:58:38 PM

Hugh Freeze turned Laramy Tunsil, LaQuon Treadwell, and Robert Nkdemdche into ZERO National, SEC, and West Division championships.

Let's be fair, Nkemdieahchieeshe and crew were on spice. No team has won a natty on spice since 2010.

GH2001 · « **Reply #29 on:** January 05, 2016, 03:02:47 PM »

Quote from: WiregrassTiger on January 05, 2016, 02:54:58 PM

Let's be fair, Nkemdieahchieeshe and crew were on spice. No team has won a natty on spice since 2010.

This guy knows....listen to him.

jmar · « **Reply #30 on:** January 05, 2016, 03:33:18 PM »

Quote from: The Six on January 05, 2016, 01:58:38 PM

Hugh Freeze turned Laramy Tunsil, LaQuon Treadwell, and Robert Nkdemdche into ZERO National, SEC, and West Division championships.

They went to their first Sugar Bowl since 19fucking70, still recruiting at the highest level and yet it's Ole Miss, conqueror of Alabama back to back. Freeze might be bonafied but this doesn't happen without a talent upgrade.

Still shocked they have progressed to this level without a good run game.

GH2001 · « **Reply #31 on:** January 05, 2016, 04:11:05 PM »

Quote from: jmar on January 05, 2016, 03:33:18 PM

They went to their first Sugar Bowl since 19fucking70, still recruiting at the highest level and yet it's Ole Miss, conqueror of Alabama back to back. Freeze might be bonafied but this doesn't happen without a talent upgrade.

Still shocked they have progressed to this level without a good run game.

The Sugar Bowl aint what it used to be kid.

Yes, they recruit very well. See Kaos' post about that earlier this week. $$$$$$$

And I have no doubt Freeze is a great coach. He seems to know his stuff.

jmar · « **Reply #32 on:** January 05, 2016, 07:01:02 PM »

Quote from: GH2001 on January 05, 2016, 04:11:05 PM

The Sugar Bowl aint what it used to be kid.

Yes, they recruit very well. See Kaos' post about that earlier this week. $$$$$$$

And I have no doubt Freeze is a great coach. He seems to know his stuff.

Well for going on forty years the Sugar Bowl was one of the elite bowls while Ole Miss was merely a so-so program for the duration. I only know that Freeze has put together a staff that continues to attract talent, don't know that he's any better a head coach than even Houston Nutt.

Buzz Killington · « **Reply #33 on:** January 05, 2016, 07:13:17 PM »

I watched a bit of the 3rd quarter and the only thing I came away with is that Mr. Bagman needs to be paying a visit to Rashan Gary, sharpish.

GH2001 · « **Reply #34 on:** January 06, 2016, 08:36:58 AM »

Quote from: Buzz Killington on January 05, 2016, 07:13:17 PM

I watched a bit of the 3rd quarter and the only thing I came away with is that Mr. Bagman needs to be paying a visit to Rashan Gary, sharpish.

It bewilders me. At first glance and on the eye test, he looks soft....he speaks soft, he just looks lazy in general. Just doesnt look the part of a badass. Then he suits up and the whistle blows, and its lights out for anyone across from him.