Heavy Rumors of Heavy Vaginal Bleeding in AU

[Kaos]

I'm pretty tired of this up and down shit. 

I don't understand how a team with this much supposed talent can look like a herd of brain damaged doofuses on offense. 

But we've seen it.  We saw it in 2012. 

Then one piece -- a renovated juco cornerback under center -- the next season and we're playing for the national title.  Most of the same people doing the same things but suddenly it was magic.

I know what a team struggling for its identity looks like.  I saw that in 1984 and a little bit in 85.  I saw it in 2003.

I know what clusterfucks look like.  I saw them in 1976, 1977, 1980, 2008 and 2012. This season feels clusterfucky as hell.

But you know, in retrospect even 2008 wasn't a complete clusterfuck. That team tried like a motherfucker, but it didn't get any help from the right coaching decision but the wrong implementation (Tony Franklin instead of say... Malzahn... with the Tuberville defense) and a sense that AU admin was just waiting to pounce and change the regime.

Through my entire life the one thing I've known is that no matter how tough things look, Auburn men will find a way to fight through it.  We don't quit.  We wrestle with the angels. We rub some dirt on it and fight back.  We're tough. We're mean. We might lose, but we'll make sure you know you had to fight us to the end for it.  Or we did. We were.

We're not that any more. We don't have that grit.   I don't know if it's fancy-pants Jacobs and his corporatization of all things Auburn, if it's just that we've hired softer coaches, if it's because all the old traditions and habits (from where to park, to how to dress, to what you can and can't do) have been erased as the "Auburn experience" becomes more sanitized and phony...

Whatever it is, we're not the same kind of men that laced it up in 1972. Or the 80s. Or even 2006. The hardest hitting game I've ever seen in my life was AU-LSU that season.  I was sore for two weeks after that just from watching people get after each other.

We don't pressure the quarterback. We don't have any swagger.

I don't know what it is, but I don't like it. 

[GH2001]

I'm pretty tired of this up and down shit. 

I don't understand how a team with this much supposed talent can look like a herd of brain damaged doofuses on offense. 

But we've seen it.  We saw it in 2012. 

Then one piece -- a renovated juco cornerback under center -- the next season and we're playing for the national title.  Most of the same people doing the same things but suddenly it was magic.

I know what a team struggling for its identity looks like.  I saw that in 1984 and a little bit in 85.  I saw it in 2003.

I know what clusterfucks look like.  I saw them in 1976, 1977, 1980, 2008 and 2012. This season feels clusterfucky as hell.

But you know, in retrospect even 2008 wasn't a complete clusterfuck. That team tried like a motherfucker, but it didn't get any help from the right coaching decision but the wrong implementation (Tony Franklin instead of say... Malzahn... with the Tuberville defense) and a sense that AU admin was just waiting to pounce and change the regime.

Through my entire life the one thing I've known is that no matter how tough things look, Auburn men will find a way to fight through it.  We don't quit.  We wrestle with the angels. We rub some dirt on it and fight back.  We're tough. We're mean. We might lose, but we'll make sure you know you had to fight us to the end for it.  Or we did. We were.

We're not that any more. We don't have that grit.   I don't know if it's fancy-pants Jacobs and his corporatization of all things Auburn, if it's just that we've hired softer coaches, if it's because all the old traditions and habits (from where to park, to how to dress, to what you can and can't do) have been erased as the "Auburn experience" becomes more sanitized and phony...

Whatever it is, we're not the same kind of men that laced it up in 1972. Or the 80s. Or even 2006. The hardest hitting game I've ever seen in my life was AU-LSU that season.  I was sore for two weeks after that just from watching people get after each other.

We don't pressure the quarterback. We don't have any swagger.

I don't know what it is, but I don't like it.

same here.

i'm at a loss for words at this point. not sure what it is. but the only common thing I see with past failures is JJ/our meddling Admin/Boosters. maybe it makes our coaches softer. maybe it creates this environment ultimately. would explain why we do good when expectations are low - we fight like hell for respect. once we get it, the expectations rise and thus comes the pressure and asshole puckering.

all the thing we list: the ol, the dl, johnson, playcalling, the quit, etc etc..i would say are all symptoms of the problem, and not the problem itself.

it has to be jacobs, it has to be our fuckface meddling PTB. speaking of that - anyone looked at this nice little ticket scandal that was uncovered in the Atheltic Dept? not directly related to this, but shows incompetency and corruption at all levels of jacobs' athetic dept. what else do they do that we don't see as far as ineptness and meddling?

[Townhallsavoy]

I'm pretty tired of this up and down shit. 

I don't understand how a team with this much supposed talent can look like a herd of brain damaged doofuses on offense. 

But we've seen it.  We saw it in 2012. 

Then one piece -- a renovated juco cornerback under center -- the next season and we're playing for the national title.  Most of the same people doing the same things but suddenly it was magic.

I know what a team struggling for its identity looks like.  I saw that in 1984 and a little bit in 85.  I saw it in 2003.

I know what clusterfucks look like.  I saw them in 1976, 1977, 1980, 2008 and 2012. This season feels clusterfucky as hell.

But you know, in retrospect even 2008 wasn't a complete clusterfuck. That team tried like a motherfucker, but it didn't get any help from the right coaching decision but the wrong implementation (Tony Franklin instead of say... Malzahn... with the Tuberville defense) and a sense that AU admin was just waiting to pounce and change the regime.

Through my entire life the one thing I've known is that no matter how tough things look, Auburn men will find a way to fight through it.  We don't quit.  We wrestle with the angels. We rub some dirt on it and fight back.  We're tough. We're mean. We might lose, but we'll make sure you know you had to fight us to the end for it.  Or we did. We were.

We're not that any more. We don't have that grit.   I don't know if it's fancy-pants Jacobs and his corporatization of all things Auburn, if it's just that we've hired softer coaches, if it's because all the old traditions and habits (from where to park, to how to dress, to what you can and can't do) have been erased as the "Auburn experience" becomes more sanitized and phony...

Whatever it is, we're not the same kind of men that laced it up in 1972. Or the 80s. Or even 2006. The hardest hitting game I've ever seen in my life was AU-LSU that season.  I was sore for two weeks after that just from watching people get after each other.

We don't pressure the quarterback. We don't have any swagger.

I don't know what it is, but I don't like it.

Or do we have too much swagger? Too much fabricated swagger?

These players don't hurt for anything. Completely coddled in recruiting. A Wellness Kitchen that serves gourmet food all day long. Big HD TVs in every "dorm." A flashy jumbotron that blasts rap music all game long.

It's the same kinda shit I saw in 2012. I went to the Texas A&M game and was completely disgusted watching our players dance like morons to the rap music being played when we were down 28-0 in the 2nd quarter.

Is that it? Am I just being an old man?

As a current student and instructor at Auburn and as one who was an undergrad from 2003 to 2007, I have to say things feel different because they ARE different. Is that just a generational thing, or has Jacobs created this culture?

A culture where athletes ride segways through the Haley Center instead of using their feet? One that has golf carts to drive them around places whenever they want?

It has to be hard to feel like you're still fighting for something day in and day out when being an Auburn football player feels like a trip to heaven. I imagine it was nice for Carnell and those guys as well, but I think they were still grounded enough to know that once their eligibility was up, it was NFL or regular Joe job. I'm not sure the current players have an understanding of that.

[Snaggletiger]

Or do we have too much swagger? Too much fabricated swagger?

These players don't hurt for anything. Completely coddled in recruiting. A Wellness Kitchen that serves gourmet food all day long. Big HD TVs in every "dorm." A flashy jumbotron that blasts rap music all game long.

It's the same kinda shit I saw in 2012. I went to the Texas A&M game and was completely disgusted watching our players dance like morons to the rap music being played when we were down 28-0 in the 2nd quarter.

Is that it? Am I just being an old man?

As a current student and instructor at Auburn and as one who was an undergrad from 2003 to 2007, I have to say things feel different because they ARE different. Is that just a generational thing, or has Jacobs created this culture?

A culture where athletes ride segways through the Haley Center instead of using their feet? One that has golf carts to drive them around places whenever they want?

It has to be hard to feel like you're still fighting for something day in and day out when being an Auburn football player feels like a trip to heaven. I imagine it was nice for Carnell and those guys as well, but I think they were still grounded enough to know that once their eligibility was up, it was NFL or regular Joe job. I'm not sure the current players have an understanding of that.

That culture is not exclusive to Jacobs or Auburn.  It's that way at every major program.

[GH2001]

That culture is not exclusive to Jacobs or Auburn.  It's that way at every major program.

So why are we all show, no go - while Bama can pull it off? Or do we commercialize it more than anyone other than Oregon?

Bama - They work hard, play hard.

We just play. And not the kind that is on the field.

Auburn has always been a gritty, blue collar, work your ass off kind of program. And we aren't now. Why?? I think Kaos hit on something....its the culture thats been shaped. And by who? Yep. Our FB program and Athetic Dept have been turned into "Tiger Unlmited". Its not the Pat Dye-David Housel work horse that it once was. Its a big spectacle, money machine now with slick marketing and nice window dressing. Problem is, there is nothing under it. Except money....lots of money.