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« on: February 24, 2012, 02:17:28 PM »
Chris Brown of smartfootball.com responded to a piece written by Greg Easterbrook regarding the Redskins owner taking play calling duties away from Zorn.  Easterbrook is close to on point, but exaggerates with his 10% rule.  Coaching is more influential than that.

http://smartfootball.com/grab-bag/is-coaching-overrated

Easterbrook:
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    Changing the playcaller sure helped the Redskins!

    In the cult of football, surely few things are more overrated than play calling. Much football commentary, from high school stands to the NFL in prime time, boils down to: “If they ran they should have passed, and if they passed they should have run.” Other commentary boils down to: “If it worked, it was a good call, if it failed, it was a bad call,” though the call is only one of many factors in a football play. Good calls are better than bad calls — this column exerts considerable effort documenting the difference. But it’s nonsensical to think that replacing a guy who calls a lot of runs to the left with a guy who calls a lot of runs to the right will transform a team.

    One factor here is the Illusion of Coaching. We want to believe that coaches are super-ultra-masterminds in control of events, and coaches do not mind encouraging that belief. But coaching is a secondary force in sports; the athletes themselves are always more important. TMQ’s immutable Law of 10 Percent holds that good coaching can improve a team by 10 percent, bad coaching can subtract from performance by 10 percent — but the rest will always be on the players themselves, their athletic ability and level of devotion, plus luck. If the players are no good or out of sync, it won’t matter what plays are called; if the players are talented and dedicated, they will succeed no matter what the sideline signals in. Unless they have bad luck, which no one can control.

He's mostly on point with the part about play calling, and with the belief fans have about coaches having total control, and being able to make magical coaching and turn anybody in to a player, and if they can't, then  "they can't coach".   Disagree completely on the 10% part.

Chris Brown responds:
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Yes and no. I wholeheartedly agree that playcalling is overrated, and he is right that much of the commentary after games involves a lot of second-guessing full of hindsight bias. Few ever pose the “should he have done X?” question in terms of the probabilities and tendencies at the time, or in the context of the 10 or so seconds available to make such calls. Indeed, I have even argued that there’s a case to be made that the best playcalling might be a controlled but randomized “mixed-strategy.”

The other coaching bogeyman is the aura surrounding “in-game adjustments” or “halftime adjustments,” both of which are supposed to be the “hallmarks of good coaching.” This is another thing where there’s a kernel of truth surrounding by a lot of speculation. Yes, a good coach will not do the same thing over and over again if it isn’t working, or if the other team has figured it out. And yes, coaching a game involves an ongoing process of what the other team is doing (this is one reason why I think, even if adjustments are part of the game, “halftime adjustments” are very much overrated). But if you want to see a bad coach then I’ll show you one who tries to “adjust” to everything the other team is doing with new schemes and ideas built-in midgame. Instead, teams with good coaching pretty much run only things within their plan — i.e. stuff they had practiced during the week. Indeed, much of what fans or commentators will pick out as an “adjustment” was something in the original gameplan that just didn’t get called until the second half because of the flow of the game. Yet how can good coaches both “adjust” throughout a game and also not deviate from what they have practiced?

This brings me to where I depart from Easterbrook, that coaching is minor. (I don’t really know how to judge “overrated” — in relation to what? overrated by whom?) While playcalling is definitely overhyped (hey, the talking heads get paid to talk about something), preparation is extremely important, and much of a gameplan involves contingency planning. It also means that the “base stuff” should have the counters built in, the constraint plays are already there, and the defensive adjustments are easy to make because they are a part of the system. A good offense “implies the counter,” meaning that if a defense adjusts in some way, then playcalling is simple because there’s an obvious counter play to be called. On defense you take away the other team’s best stuff, and focus on other things as it comes, though by dictating to the offense through aggressiveness and by trying to confuse it. Unlike Easterbrook I can’t hang a number on how many wins or losses “coaching” is responsible for (and if I could I’d imagine it varies by level), I can safely say that I think weekly preparation is underrated, because it is rarely talked about — other than platitudes like “we had a great week of practice” — has a long-tail in terms of continual refinement of technique and effort that can only improve incrementally, and that everything run in the games is stuff that has been practiced over and over and over.

And a somewhat similar point made by Brophy:  Full article here: http://brophyfootball.blogspot.com/2011/12/footballs-illusions.html

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You have websites prepackaged with content selling subscriptions, run largely by individuals who have little experience /knowledge in writing or fact-finding journalism, nor especially the game. Its one thing to deliver fan-centric content such as stats and tailgating experience and impressions from the game. It is quite another thing to provide analysis of coaching decisions with absolute certainty of the outcome when you have little understanding of what is taking place on the field and no experience what goes into teaching, applying, and managing a game (coaching staff).

You don’t have to be a Michelin-rated chef to be able to discern if a meal was palatable or if your dining experience was one to be remembered. It does help my critique as well as substantiate my perspective if I understand what goes into the process of food preparation, nutrition, presentation, and how tastes are to complement each other. If I do not have an understanding of these elements, I won’t be grounded in key factors to provide objective feedback. Unfortunately, much of the ‘analysis’ by these content providers is tantamount to a steak house review where the critic clamors on about how the steak was too rare and needed more ketchup. Don’t mistake snark for being insightful.

I'll add to that last part by saying cooking and eating is within the common knowledge of most of us, while coaching athletes, designing drill, scheduling practices, game planning, and running an offense and a defense are not, despite the fact we all watch the product on TV.
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Re: Just thought I'd put this here...
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2012, 02:22:42 PM »
Chris Brown ...

Quit listening to him after he smacked that bitch around. 
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« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2012, 02:29:55 PM »
Quit listening to him after he smacked that bitch around.

Another Chris Brown
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« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2012, 02:34:27 PM »
I feel like that disrespects the average football fan as if only those directly involved in the meeting rooms are capable of making any criticisms. 

Not many people say, "If only Coach X would have held more meetings" or "If only Coach Y would have run the slant instead of the stuff."

But if a team - let's say Auburn - has a player - let's say Dyer - and that player shows signs of being a badass but vanishes at odd times during the game, then the fan has the right and clairvoyance to question the coach's decision. 
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« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2012, 02:36:53 PM »
I feel like that disrespects the average football fan as if only those directly involved in the meeting rooms are capable of making any criticisms. 

Not many people say, "If only Coach X would have held more meetings" or "If only Coach Y would have run the slant instead of the stuff."

But if a team - let's say Auburn - has a player - let's say Dyer - and that player shows signs of being a badass but vanishes at odd times during the game, then the fan has the right and clairvoyance to question the coach's decision.

I don't think it says you have no right.  I think if you'll read Brophy's full article, or skip to the last part about the internet, he addresses that.
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Re: Just thought I'd put this here...
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2012, 02:40:07 PM »
Another Chris Brown

I'm 1000% sure that Kaos knew that.

Continue being super-serious football guy, though.

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« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2012, 02:44:37 PM »
Damn, this boy gets around.

Miami police are investigating a report that R&B singer Chris Brown stole a woman's phone after she tried to take photos of him outside a nightclub.

Christal Spann, 24, filed a police report alleging that Brown, who is currently on probation for assaulting his ex-girlfriend Rihanna, stole her iPhone on Sunday morning, TMZ reported.

Spann told police that she followed Brown and rapper Tyga out of Cameo nightclub and took photos of Brown as he was getting into his Bentley.

Brown saw her and grabbed the phone through the car's window, before driving off with it.

Spann told police that she heard Brown say, "B*tch, you ain't going to put that on no website."

Miami police told the entertainment website that no arrests had been made and no warrants issued.

The matter is still under investigation.



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/02/24/chris-brown-allegedly-steals-womans-phone-after-snapped-photo-him-report-says/?intcmp=features#ixzz1nKUTvI3L
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Re: Just thought I'd put this here...
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2012, 02:47:14 PM »
I'm 1000% sure that Kaos knew that.

Continue being super-serious football guy, though.



You said you wanted a football fix.
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« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2012, 02:51:26 PM »
Damn, this boy gets around.

Miami police are investigating a report that R&B singer Chris Brown stole a woman's phone after she tried to take photos of him outside a nightclub.

Christal Spann, 24, filed a police report alleging that Brown, who is currently on probation for assaulting his ex-girlfriend Rihanna, stole her iPhone on Sunday morning, TMZ reported.

Spann told police that she followed Brown and rapper Tyga out of Cameo nightclub and took photos of Brown as he was getting into his Bentley.

Brown saw her and grabbed the phone through the car's window, before driving off with it.

Spann told police that she heard Brown say, "B*tch, you ain't going to put that on no website."

Miami police told the entertainment website that no arrests had been made and no warrants issued.

The matter is still under investigation.



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/02/24/chris-brown-allegedly-steals-womans-phone-after-snapped-photo-him-report-says/?intcmp=features#ixzz1nKUTvI3L
That boy don't have what they call "the social skills.
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Re: Just thought I'd put this here...
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2012, 02:57:40 PM »
You said you wanted a football fix.

Indeed.  Levity doesn't have to hit the bricks at the same time, though.

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« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2012, 02:59:39 PM »
Indeed.  Levity doesn't have to hit the bricks at the same time, though.

Srlsy.

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« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2012, 04:24:43 PM »
Indeed.  Levity doesn't have to hit the bricks at the same time, though.

Srlsy.

Guise.

Football levity?  Hmmmm.

Ok:  If my mother put on a helmet and shoulder pads and a uniform that wasn't the same as the one I was wearing, I'd run over her if she was in my way. And I love my mother.

--Bo Jackson
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« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2012, 04:38:35 PM »
"Sure, luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck."

--Don Shula
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Re: Just thought I'd put this here...
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2012, 04:43:37 PM »
Football levity?  Hmmmm.

Ok:  If..if mmmy mother....put put on a helmet and shoulder pads....aaand a uniform that that wasn't the same as the one I was wearing, I'd...I'd rrrun over her if sh-she was in my way. Aaaannnd I love my mother.

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FTFY

Okay, that was blasphemy, I know. 
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Re: Just thought I'd put this here...
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2012, 04:46:12 PM »
FTFY

Okay, that was blasphemy, I know.

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« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2012, 04:52:18 PM »
FTFY

Okay, that was blasphemy, I know.

Damn dude!   I mean making fun of the kid next door is one thing, but Bo?  What kind of evil sadistic bastard are you?  I lol'd
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