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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Birmingham on July 10, 2010, 08:23:22 PM
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Alright, off the bat, Ingram and Richardson haven't accomplished enough to really be considered in this but they have the potential to match previous tandems but in no way can be considered higher than 3rd place in my opinion. I saw this discussed earlier and wanted your take.
Darren McFadden
Felix Jones
Cadillac Williams
Ronnie Brown
Mark Ingram
Trent Richardson
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Alright, off the bat, Ingram and Richardson haven't accomplished enough to really be considered in this but they have the potential to match previous tandems but in no way can be considered higher than 3rd place in my opinion. I saw this discussed earlier and wanted your take.
Darren McFadden
Felix Jones
Cadillac Williams
Ronnie Brown
Mark Ingram
Trent Richardson
In SEC History? I'd say...Top 5. There are a couple other tandems that where pretty damn good too. The production of Ingram and Richardson will drop some with the addition of Lacey. Plus, Coach little bitch likes a three headed monster-type backfield (what coach wouldn't) but think back to his days at LSU (Broussard, Addai, Vincent). So, production wise? I'd say...Top 10. Talent wise? Top 5.
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Here are some stats, they're only from years that the tandem played together, obviously. Can someone plug in Cadillac's career receiving stats, I couldn't find them.
Darren McFadden 785 carries, 4590 yards, 41 rushing td's, 46 receptions, 365 receiving yards, 2 receiving td's
Felix Jones 386 carries, 2956 yards, 20 rushing td's, 39 receptions, 383 receiving yards, 3 receiving td's
total: 1171 carries, 7546 yards, 61 rushing td's, 85 receptions, 748 receiving yards, 5 receiving td's
Cadillac Williams 741 carries, 3831 yards, 45 rushing td's,
Ronnie Brown 507 carries, 2697 yards, 28 rushing td's, 58 receptions, 668 receiving yards, 2 receiving td's
total: 1248 carries, 6528 yards, 73 rushing td's, ?? receptions, ??? receiving yards, ?? receiving td's
Mark Ingram 271 carries, 1658 yards, 17 rushing td's, 32 receptions, 334 receiving yards, 3 receiving td's
Trent Richardson 145 carries, 751 yards, 8 rushing td's, 16 receptions, 126 receiving yards, 0 receiving td's
total: 416 carries, 2409 yards, 25 rushing td's, 48 receptions, 460 receiving yards, 3 receiving td's
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Naturally as a duo I would choose Carnell and Ronnie. For a trio, if you throw Peyton Hillis in the mix I would take McFadden and Felix Jones. If Richardson and Ingram were on the field together they might be as good a tandem. Barry Sanders backed up Thurman Thomas as a pair at Oklahoma State but that's about as far back as I would go and that isn't the SEC. Broussard, Addai and Vincent were a very good threesome but not as good if split up or as a single back in college IMO.
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It's also worth noting that Ingram and Trent will only be playing 2 seasons together. Another reason why their stats won't come close to matching up with many other tandems.
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William Andrews
James Brooks
Joe Cribbs
Too bad we didn't have a coaching staff that could utilize them properly.
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William Andrews
James Brooks
Joe Cribbs
Too bad we didn't have a coaching staff that could utilize them properly.
I had put that completely out of my mind with over twenty-five years of self-hypnosis. We called it binge drinking though.
There was never a finer group of talented backs before or since. I used to turn off an NFL game when any one of them were busy catching a swing pass for a thirty yard highlight reel TD due to the feeling of loss I suffered from it. This was a All-Pro trifecta that should be the standard for all Auburn offenses today and partially why I am a babbling idiot today.
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William Andrews
James Brooks
Joe Cribbs
Too bad we didn't have a coaching staff that could utilize them properly.
How bout Bo Jackson, and (Insert Name)
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How bout Bo Jackson, and (Insert Name)
Lionel James, but the three above should have been the standard for modern day football. Andrews was often used as a lead blocker and Brooks turned out to be an off tackle menace at 170 lbs. and was used at receiver some and as a kick returner. Cribbs was used properly only with regard to the veer offense and NONE were used as receivers out of the backfield which was their true calling.
Brooks starred at Cincy and with Air-Coryell in Deigo. Andrews made the Falcons a legitimate playoff team for the first time in franchise history as a complete power back and Cribbs was a little of both at Buffalo and in the USFL.
Bo could tote it better than all but he didn't have the hands.
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As a tandem, Ingram and Richardson have no business being mentioned in this conversation at this point in their careers. That is all.
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As a tandem, Ingram and Richardson have no business being mentioned in this conversation at this point in their careers. That is all.
This.
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As a tandem, Ingram and Richardson have no business being mentioned in this conversation at this point in their careers. That is all.
Thank you sir.
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1942: Charlie Trippi & Frank Sinkwich deserve mention in this conversation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charley_Trippi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charley_Trippi)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Sinkwich (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Sinkwich)
Halfway through Trippi's sophomore season, head coach Wally Butts put Trippi at halfback and switched Sinkwich to fullback. The move worked as Trippi gained 1,239 yards in total offense (672 yards rushing on 98 carries and 567 yards passing), a remarkable total considering he was a substitute for part of the year.
Ironically, the switch in positions also made Sinkwich a better player. He starred as a fullback in 1942 and went on to win the Heisman Trophy.
''We really had an awesome offense (after the switch),'' Trippi said. ''Frank's quickness off the ball was so devastating that you could not imagine a more effective inside runner. And his running opened up the outside lanes for me.''
Georgia went 11-1 (with its sole setback against Auburn), but the team bounced back the next week to destroy a highly regarded Georgia Tech team 34-0 - thanks to an early 85-yard TD run by Trippi - to earn a trip to the Rose Bowl against UCLA.
WAR EAGLE
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1983 Florida Gators
Neal Anderson
Lorenzo Hampton
John L. Williams
this group also deserves mention.
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1983 Florida Gators
Neal Anderson
Lorenzo Hampton
John L. Williams
this group also deserves mention.
I may be partial but Ive always thought the duo of Bo and Little Train were a good un. Effective moreso than flashy.
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What about:
Rusty Williams
Cencade Pennington
Markeith Cooper
Man, you people think you know football. Pffft.....
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How bout Bo Jackson, and (Insert Name)
BO, Lionel and Agee (see 1983 Maryland game)
BO & Fullwood
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Tucker Frederickson and Jimmy Sidle also deserve to be in this group. Sidle was technically a QB but was used more like an old single wing tailback.......All-American quarterback at Auburn who became the first QB to lead the nation in rushing; gained 1,006 yards rushing in 1963 and along with tailback Tucker Frederickson lead the Tigers to a 9-1 record, No. 5 ranking and an appearance in the Orange Bowl
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What about:
Rusty Williams
Cencade Pennington
Markeith Cooper
Man, you people think you know football. Pffft.....
You left out Demontray Carter and Micheal Owens.
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I may be partial but Ive always thought the duo of Bo and Little Train were a good un. Effective moreso than flashy.
yep........the 1983 AU/UF game was amazing........had BO, Lionel, Agee and the three from Florida along with Ricky Natiel (sp?) at WR for UF.........along with so many other great athletes (offense and defense)......
There were around 60 future NFL players on the combined sidelines that day..........dadgum athletes everywhere. Auburn would win 28-21 with three goal line stands. The first two, UF fumbled into the endzone (Pell went nuts) and the last one ended the game on downs.
UF had defeated Miami 28-3 earlier in the year.................but that is a story for another thread.
WAR EAGLE
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Tucker Frederickson and Jimmy Sidle also deserve to be in this group. Sidle was technically a QB but was used more like an old single wing tailback.......All-American quarterback at Auburn who became the first QB to lead the nation in rushing; gained 1,006 yards rushing in 1963 and along with tailback Tucker Frederickson lead the Tigers to a 9-1 record, No. 5 ranking and an appearance in the Orange Bowl
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TF could play for any team offense or defense. And Sidle had a very strong arm, they just didn't throw it much.