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The Library => The SGA => Topic started by: GarMan on May 11, 2010, 12:47:56 AM
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Fan of Socialism? Nah... She's just "interested" in it.
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How Big a Problem Is Kagan's 'Socialism' Thesis?
Carl Franzen
(May 10) -- One of the few potentially compromising documents authored by Elena Kagan had nothing to do with law or any legal decisions. As an undergraduate history major at Princeton University in 1981, Kagan submitted a 156-page senior thesis titled "To the Final Conflict: Socialism in New York City, 1900-1933."
According to The New York Times, "the paper examines why, despite the rise of the labor movement, the Socialist Party lost political traction in the United States -- a loss that she attributed to fissures and feuding within the movement. 'The story is a sad but also a chastening one for those who, more than half a century after socialism's decline, still wish to change America,' she wrote." The paper also reports that the thesis was dedicated to her brother Marc, who she said had "involvement in radical causes."
Any hint of socialism, as many political observers will be quick to note, has been a political albatross for several generations now. The definition of socialism and socialist ties is somewhat debatable, but even the implication of socialism can be devastating, politically speaking. See the infamous ouster of Van Jones after Fox News host Glenn Beck's anti-socialist tirades against him last year.
Kagan's thesis adviser, Sean Wilentz, told the Times that her work was not a "defense of socialism," saying she was merely "interested it in it." In the Daily Princetonian, he was even more forceful in denying that Kagan held such views herself: "Elena Kagan is about the furthest thing from a socialist. Period. And always had been. Period."
The nominee hasn't commented publicly on her bygone document and has likely evolved in her political and historical perspectives since then. But the thesis has already prickled a few feathers in the conservative blogosphere. Still, as Media Matters points out, "Republicans did not raise the issue during her confirmation as solicitor general, suggesting that none of them believed that she was actually a socialist."
Will it become a larger issue during the confirmation process? Only time will tell.
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Fan of Socialism? Nah... She's just "interested" in it.
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Very funny connection there GarMan. "She's a man...man!"
It'll be interesting to follow the kabuki-dance that this broad does during the Congressional Inquisition since she has so little in the way of publications. However I'm sure that the RINO weasels will approve her with only limp objections (Lindsay Grah-amnesty won't vote against her)...the Dem lapdogs will fall in line with no objections since she's the choice of Chairman Maobama.
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Lindsay Grah-amnesty
I thought I was the only one who thought this. That guy is schizo.
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I thought I was the only one who thought this. That guy is schizo.
Nope count me in that group as well.
Tarheel, you forgot to add Snowe and Collins to go along with Graham........wait, I guess that goes without saying.
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I thought I was the only one who thought this. That guy is schizo.
I do not trust Lindsay Grah-amnesty...or Juan McCain for that matter. (Off topic but both of them have sold their souls to El Diablo in the hopes of getting Hispanic votes.)
Nope count me in that group as well.
Tarheel, you forgot to add Snowe and Collins to go along with Graham........wait, I guess that goes without saying.
Thanks for reminding me...come to think of it there are quite a few Republicans in the Senate that I don't trust.
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I do not trust Lindsay Grah-amnesty...or Juan McCain for that matter. (Off topic but both of them have sold their souls to El Diablo in the hopes of getting Hispanic votes.)
Thanks for reminding me...come to think of it there are quite a few Republicans in the Senate that I don't trust.
There are a few who may surprise you on the RINO rankings. Both Hatch and Shelby are ranked middle of the road to liberal. Sessions is usually in the top 10 most conservative in the Senate. Ad of course - as you mentioned - Graham and McCain might as well be Demos. Graham is one that I cannot put a finger on.
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There are a few who may surprise you on the RINO rankings. Both Hatch and Shelby are ranked middle of the road to liberal. Sessions is usually in the top 10 most conservative in the Senate. Ad of course - as you mentioned - Graham and McCain might as well be Demos. Graham is one that I cannot put a finger on.
I can believe that. Dick Shelby champions for Redstone Arsenal/NASA/missile defense and I am grateful since I work in that field, but he has always had some liberal tendencies (as does McCain). Remember he wasn't always a member of the GOP.
While I am thinkng about this and maybe we need to start another thread, but I haven't seen a politician that I have been excited about in a long time. Jeff Sessions when I was younger, but that is about it. Maybe Duncan Hunter Jr and Boby Jindahl. Anyone else have anyone in mind?
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There are a few who may surprise you on the RINO rankings. Both Hatch and Shelby are ranked middle of the road to liberal. Sessions is usually in the top 10 most conservative in the Senate. Ad of course - as you mentioned - Graham and McCain might as well be Demos.
I think that you got it right regarding Graham in using the word schizo. He is very conservative on most Foreign Affairs issues such as the War on Terror Overseas Contingency Plans but when it comes to Domestic Issues he's not conservative.
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I can believe that. tool Shelby champions for Redstone Arsenal/NASA/missile defense and I am grateful since I work in that field, but he has always had some liberal tendencies (as does McCain). Remember he wasn't always a member of the GOP.
While I am thinkng about this and maybe we need to start another thread, but I haven't seen a politician that I have been excited about in a long time. Jeff Sessions when I was younger, but that is about it. Maybe Duncan Hunter Jr and Boby Jindahl. Anyone else have anyone in mind?
Pawlenty seems real polished, very presidential. Jindal is an excellent leader. He has intangibles that you can't measure but just take a glance at him on TV during this oil spill. The dude is with it. He is confident and I think he has the peoples' best interest at heart. Hunter seems like a good guy but he's getting old. Ive always liked Sessions if for nothing else, his bluntness. He doesnt mince words. If all attorneys (especially bankruptcy ones) think like a couple of friends of mine in Columbus (GA) do, then they absolutely hate him due to his massive support for the bankruptcy legislation. I also thought Fred was ok, but he may have come off as being a bit drab at times. Rubio seems like a bright star as does Paul Ryan, but they are fairly new to the scene so lets see what they do. And of course, I always like Ron Paul despite what Chad thinks of my political leanings. Which in turn means I also like his son Rand Paul.
Clowns in the GOP:
Graham
McCain
Giuliani
Crist
Bush (GW)
Bush (GHW)
Bush (Jeb)
Snowe
Collins
Arnahld
amongst many many others.....
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I can believe that. tool Shelby champions for Redstone Arsenal/NASA/missile defense and I am grateful since I work in that field, but he has always had some liberal tendencies (as does McCain). Remember he wasn't always a member of the GOP.
While I am thinkng about this and maybe we need to start another thread, but I haven't seen a politician that I have been excited about in a long time. Jeff Sessions when I was younger, but that is about it. Maybe Duncan Hunter Jr and Boby Jindahl. Anyone else have anyone in mind?
I have always liked Mitt Romney as a candidate but he is never going to shake the albatross that is 'Romney-care' at this point in his career.
Paul Ryan and Rand Paul are both great rising stars in the GOP as is Bobby Jindahl. I also like Chris Cox who is running for a Congressional seat in Massachusetts (coincidentally, he's also the grandson of Richard Nixon).
GH, in my opinion (and I'm going to step on some toes here) you can add Huckabee to the GOP Clowns list. He may talk a hard line about crime but he's soft and fuzzy on being hard on criminals and I think that his appalling record of thinking serious offenders can be reformed and released is his proverbial albatross (in addition to him being a bigoted, provincial bumpkin).
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I have always liked Mitt Romney as a candidate but he is never going to shake the albatross that is 'Romney-care' at this point in his career.
Paul Ryan and Rand Paul are both great rising stars in the GOP as is Bobby Jindahl. I also like Chris Cox who is running for a Congressional seat in Massachusetts (coincidentally, he's also the grandson of Richard Nixon).
GH, in my opinion (and I'm going to step on some toes here) you can add Huckabee to the GOP Clowns list. He may talk a hard line about crime but he's soft and fuzzy on being hard on criminals and I think that his appalling record of thinking serious offenders can be reformed and released is his proverbial albatross (in addition to him being a bigoted, provincial bumpkin).
Agree on Huckabee. I think he's a nice guy personally. Terrible politician. And I honestly dont want a Baptist Preacher running the free world.
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Agree on Huckabee. I think he's a nice guy personally. Terrible politician. And I honestly dont want a Baptist Preacher running the free world.
Didn't we do that once? If I can remember my non-revisionist history, that didn't work out so well for us.
Earlier you mentioned Duncan Hunter getting old. That he is. I mentioned Hunter Jr. He's not really a Junior, his dad is Duncan Lee Hunter and he is Duncan Duane Hunter.