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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: BZ770 on April 29, 2010, 08:21:02 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN7WbXunJcc# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN7WbXunJcc#)
Wonder if he had not of Pussed out in the biggest game of his life if he'd not been a 4th round pick. And how bammer wouldn't have won the MNC, I can only speculate.
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I'm just embarrassed that nobody told us we were supposed to be playing two-hand touch. I feel awful about what happened. It was really awful how he got tackled by a football player and all.
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He led with his helmet, basically spearing him in the shoulder....I guess that's what they teach at the cesspool, spear the other team's best player to get the win.
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He led with his helmet, basically spearing him in the shoulder....I guess that's what they teach at the cesspool, spear the other team's best player to get the win.
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He led with his helmet, basically spearing him in the shoulder....I guess that's what they teach at the cesspool, spear the other team's best player to get the win.
The picture I've seen of you doesn't match someone who would honestly say something as pussy as "leading with the helmet".
I realize you watched a lot of bullshit arm tackling last season on defense, but holy shit prow, that was a text book tackle. Break down, helmet to the outside of the body, and wrap up.
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wrap up.
I knew something was missing.
Signed,
Ted Roof
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The picture I've seen of you doesn't match someone who would honestly say something as pussy as "leading with the helmet".
I realize you watched a lot of bullshit arm tackling last season on defense, but holy shit prow, that was a text book tackle. Break down, helmet to the outside of the body, and wrap up.
No shit. If McCoy doesn't shift his body at the last second, his arm wouldn't have been hit either. And as for him pussing out, if the pinched nerve in his arm hurt half as bad as the pinched nerve in my back did, that's still a lot of fuckin pain. With it being in his arm, I doubt he had much arm strength left.
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I hate Bammer as much as anyone - but they were the apparent better team of the 2 with or without McCoy. When McCoy was in the game, was Texas really lighting Bama up? Bama spotted Texas TWICE in the first quarter and the best they could muster out of it was 2 FG's. They werent killing it with McCoy, they werent killing it without McCoy. And Yes - Bama did go into a Prevent in the 3rd and some of the 4th quarter which made the Texas O look a lot better than they really were ala the faux comeback. When Bama went back into an aggressive man D, Texas was shut down. Sorry - Bama looked much like the better team.
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I hate Bammer as much as anyone - but they were the apparent better team of the 2 with or without McCoy. When McCoy was in the game, was Texas really lighting Bama up? Bama spotted Texas TWICE in the first quarter and the best they could muster out of it was 2 FG's. They werent killing it with McCoy, they werent killing it without McCoy. And Yes - Bama did go into a Prevent in the 3rd and some of the 4th quarter which made the Texas O look a lot better than they really were ala the faux comeback. When Bama went back into an aggressive man D, Texas was shut down. Sorry - Bama looked much like the better team.
I hate Bammer as much as anyone - and I disagree.
Up until the point that Colt went down, Texas was in complete control of the game. Yeah, the score was still 0-0, but that's because it was three measly minutes into the game, and they were likely going to be able to punch that drive in. Bammer botched a fake punt which led to a field goal, and then failed to recover a kickoff which led to another field goal shortly after McCoy was hurt. Not exactly lighting it up.
Colt was their team. They throw this eighteen year old Gilbert kid who the absolute last thought in his mind was that he would have to go out there and play in the championship game. Any comparison of the bammer rolled all over this kid has no bearing on what would have happened if their star quarterback had stayed in. It became obvious that the rest of the team had no confidence in this kid. Something like that, so early in the game, shoots your adrenaline down quick.
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Hate it when Auburn folks force me to do this...there wasn't a damn thing dirty about the hit. And calling McCoy a pussy is out of line too. He didn't puss out...he was unable to play due to numbness in his arm. What might have been if he had played? It's a moot point really. Sucks for him that he paid all his dues to get there, but that's the game of football. 1st round or 4th round, McCoy is a good kid from a good family, but he's not likely to pan out on Sundays.
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I didn't see anything wrong with the hit. Just unfortunate that it wound up causing a freak type injury and changing the course of the game. I'm not going to sit here and say Texas would have won if McCoy plays but ealry indications were that Texas could move the ball on them. And the bottom line was that when Gilbert finally got his sea legs under him and got in sync...Shipley could not be covered, period. Admittedly, Bama went ulta-conservative in the 2nd half with a big lead. I just think it would have been a game for the ages if McCoy had played and hooked up with Shipley all night.
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The hit was clean.
Colt didn't wuss out.
As for Alabama being "clearly" the better team, I say no way on that. Like others said, I hate Alabama too, but they were not easily the better team. The way the game started, it appeared Texas had come to play, and just like they did against USC in 2005, they weren't going to be beat by the speed or the athleticism or the physical play of the other team. They were equal in all those areas.
Games ebb and flow in all kinds of ways, so who know how things may have happened. But it cannot be understated that Colt McCoy was that teams Lebron James or Kobe Bryant. He was more to that team than Tebow was to Florida. Who had the better team in 2009? We'll never know. All we know is that Alabama was better than Texas without their Lebron. Fair and square for sure, but that is all we know.
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Bama came out a little rusty, spotted Texas twice in the redzone, 0-0. And Texas was in complete control????? We're gonna disagree here JA. Ive seen the replay a dozen times. It was just a matter of time - with or without McCoy - that Bama got their footing in that game. I thought the hit was clean - sorry, it was. This is football, not cheerleading. Texas did the same thing to Sam Bradford so Mack and the Steer Queer Nation should understand fully. I honestly think the better team won. I will call a spade a spade.
IMHO - Bama's D was better than OU's. And we know OU shut McCoy and UT down. They were lucky to win that game. They were also damn lucky to win the Big 12 title. Neb and OU both had stout D's and Texas had trouble with both. Good D > Good O. I think Bama could have made that game much worse in the 3rd quarter than they did.
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Bama came out a little rusty, spotted Texas twice in the redzone, 0-0. And Texas was in complete control????? We're gonna disagree here JA. Ive seen the replay a dozen times. It was just a matter of time - with or without McCoy - that Bama got their footing in that game. I thought the hit was clean - sorry, it was. This is football, not cheerleading. Texas did the same thing to Sam Bradford so Mack and the Steer Queer Nation should understand fully. I honestly think the better team won. I will call a spade a spade.
IMHO - Bama's D was better than OU's. And we know OU shut McCoy and UT down. They were lucky to win that game. They were also damn lucky to win the Big 12 title. Neb and OU both had stout D's and Texas had trouble with both. Good D > Good O. I think Bama could have made that game much worse in the 3rd quarter than they did.
Someone else may have said it, but I didn't say Texas was in complete control. I said they came to play, nothing more. My point was only that early on, there was no reason to think Texas was going to be out-manned. I also noted that the hit was clean, obviously so, I think. (and for what it's worth, I haven't met a Texas fan out here that thinks the hit was anything but a clean tackle...I've only heard that from anti-Alabama fans).
But I'm not sure you can really say anything about that game was inevitable. Alabama got rolling a little more offensively, but was that partially due to the fact that the UT offense was three-and-out over and over? Maybe, maybe not. Maybe they would have gotten going anyway. But maybe they got going because the UT defense was on the field a lot and Alabama got a whole lot of chances to get going. Point is, we only know what did happen, we'll never know what would have happened.
As for looking back at "lucky to win" games, you could just as easily point to Alabama vs Auburn and Alabama vs Tennessee. So that's a wash. I'm not someone that's idiotic enough to say that had Colt played UT would have definitely won. That's crazy. But I think it's equally crazy to say Alabama definitely would have won even if McCoy played. Like I said, he was their Lebron, and while Alabama may have beaten a Texas team WITH McCoy, all we know for sure is that they were better than a Texas team without McCoy. So yeah, the better team won, no question. It wasn't an upset. But the losing team, without any question, didn't field their best player, which has to be considered.
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Survey of NCAA Division 1 Officials on the Helmet-Contact Rules in Football
Jon Heck, MS, ATC
Helmet-contact penalties refer to the following three rules for this survey:
1. Spearing is the deliberate use of the helmet (including the face mask) in an attempt to punish an opponent.
2. No player intentionally shall strike a runner with the crown or top of the helmet.
3. No player intentionally shall use his helmet (including the face mask) to butt or ram an opponent.
1. CHECK
2. CHECK (Marcel moved his head downwards after initial contact, scrapping down McCoy's arm, causing more pain to occure)
3. CHECK
See, that's what the winder lickers teach over there in West Vance.
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1. CHECK
2. CHECK (Marcel moved his head downwards after initial contact, scrapping down McCoy's arm, causing more pain to occure)
3. CHECK
See, that's what the winder lickers teach over there in West Vance.
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I talked to Dareus 3 weeks after the Championship game in Tuscaloosa. He said he in no way attempted to spear Colt or to lead with his helmet or anything. He said he was trying to do an illegal chop block that Ryan Pugh had taught him 2 games before.
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1. CHECK
2. CHECK (Marcel moved his head downwards after initial contact, scrapping down McCoy's arm, causing more pain to occure)
3. CHECK
See, that's what the winder lickers teach over there in West Vance.
If you seriously think that was a dirty hit, you really are as stupid as some here think you are. I've been hard pressed to even find a Texas fan to say it was anything other than a clean hit. They really don't like to admit it, but at least they have enough sense to see the obvious. If anything, McCoy put himself in a worse position right before the hit by the way he turned.
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I talked to Dareus 3 weeks after the Championship game in Tuscaloosa. He said he in no way attempted to spear Colt or to lead with his helmet or anything. He said he was trying to do an illegal chop block that Ryan Pugh had taught him 2 games before.
Yeah, I figured something like that, he was trying to make it his own...Illegal Chopping Spear (Dareus was going to call it "The Tomahawk").
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I talked to Dareus 3 weeks after the Championship game in Tuscaloosa. He said he in no way attempted to spear Colt or to lead with his helmet or anything. He said he was trying to do an illegal chop block that Ryan Pugh had taught him 2 games before.
OK, that was funny.
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1. CHECK
2. CHECK (Marcel moved his head downwards after initial contact, scrapping down McCoy's arm, causing more pain to occure)
3. CHECK
See, that's what the winder lickers teach over there in West Vance.
Give 'em the ol' Hardy Brown I say. I'm not much on knee shots but the upper torso is fair game. You don't teach it, just like you don't tell your pitcher to plunk a guy, it just happens and/or is expected. Teamates don't like a guy who won't back 'em. That was a clean hit. And IMO, Bama was obviously a better team overall, with or without McCoy.
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1. CHECK
2. CHECK (Marcel moved his head downwards after initial contact, scrapping down McCoy's arm, causing more pain to occure)
3. CHECK
See, that's what the winder lickers teach over there in West Vance.
You need to drop this shit. It wasn't dirty or against the rules. End of story. Don't give the idiot bammers any reason to come here and spew shit especially when their shit is going to be right.
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You need to drop this shit. It wasn't dirty or against the rules. End of story. Don't give the idiot bammers any reason to come here and spew shit especially when their shit is going to be right.
When it is something as stupid as this, and somebody just obviously trying to be a moron, there isn't even any sense in spewing anything.
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I wish a 100 yd. diameter meteorite would have hit the 50 yd. line during that game.
Win, win.
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I wish a 100 yd. diameter meteorite would have hit the 50 yd. line during that game.
Win, win.
This man knows.
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I wish a 100 yd. diameter meteorite would have hit the 50 yd. line during that game.
Win, win.
Why the hatred for Texas? They only beat you guys like every 4 years. They haven't pulled any in-state 5* RBs away from Arky either, because I mean, you guys don't even care about that anyway.
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Why the hatred for Texas? They only beat you guys like every 4 years. They haven't pulled any in-state 5* RBs away from Arky either, because I mean, you guys don't even care about that anyway.
Work with some as I do. They are worse than you guys sometimes. At least with yall its 1-D - Football.
Every Texas fan I work with likes to remind anyone else everyday how everything was invented there, how much more money they have, how much better anything they have is - yadda yadda - you get the drift.
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Work with some as I do. They are worse than you guys sometimes. At least with yall its 1-D - Football.
Every Texas fan I work with likes to remind anyone else everyday how everything was invented there, how much more money they have, how much better anything they have is - yadda yadda - you get the drift.
Texas IS one hell of a program, but I see what you mean. I work with two Texas fans, but they are fairly level. Our resident Volunteer was fun to fuck with when Kiffin left. We have a guy from Arkansas, but I don't think he's really a football fan.
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Texas IS one hell of a program, but I see what you mean. I work with two Texas fans, but they are fairly level. Our resident Volunteer was fun to fuck with when Kiffin left. We have a guy from Arkansas, but I don't think he's really a football fan.
What qualifies them (or any program) as "one hell of a program"?
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What qualifies them (or any program) as "one hell of a program"?
Only ask a Texas fan that question if you have three hours to kill...
I agree with boartitz on this one. HATE me some UT fans. Bammers of the Big II + X
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Only ask a Texas fan that question if you have three hours to kill...
I agree with boartitz on this one. HATE me some UT fans. Bammers of the Big II + X
I can only imagine what TX fans are like...but having dealt with bammer, "bammer on steroids" comes to mind. A bammer with that "Texas state of mind". Bigger and better in their own eyes.
But my question still stands to the bammer.
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Only ask a Texas fan that question if you have three hours to kill...
I agree with boartitz on this one. HATE me some UT fans. Bammers of the Big II + X
This is why I like you.
They are #2 in Wins all time but several of the programs around them in the top 10 have played many less games, and have more more NC's (i.e. - Notre Dame). And up until Mack Brown arrived, they honestly never entered most people's minds as an elite program. They were outside the top 5 in wins all time with 2 NC's. They had also been pretty mediocre for 20 years with aTm and Okie being the bigger programs during that span. I always grew up in the 80's thinking more of aTm than Texas. Of course thats not the case now but....
Don't get me wrong, the guys I work with are nice a lot of time, but don't dare brag on anything Auburn or Alabama or Notre Dame to them. They will remind you quickly how elite they think they are and whatever you have thats good - well, theirs is better, bigger, whatever.
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This is why I like you.
They are #2 in Wins all time but several of the programs around them in the top 10 have played many less games, and have more more NC's (i.e. - Notre Dame). And up until Mack Brown arrived, they honestly never entered most people's minds as an elite program. They were outside the top 5 in wins all time with 2 NC's. They had also been pretty mediocre for 20 years with aTm and Okie being the bigger programs during that span. I always grew up in the 80's thinking more of aTm than Texas. Of course thats not the case now but....
Don't get me wrong, the guys I work with are nice a lot of time, but don't dare brag on anything Auburn or Alabama or Notre Dame to them. They will remind you quickly how elite they think they are and whatever you have thats good - well, theirs is better, bigger, whatever.
They had a day in the sun. The 60s and 70s, under Darrell Royal, where they won 3 NCs in '63, '69, and '70 (Split poll with Neb). Then went 35 years without winning an NC until the BCS Title in 2005. By the way, I do consider them a top tier program. But by bammer standards, the standards they're constantly running their cock holsters about, they're an "also ran" program.
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They had a day in the sun. The 60s and 70s, under Darrell Royal, where they won 3 NCs in '63, '69, and '70 (Split poll with Neb). Then went 35 years without winning an NC until the BCS Title in 2005. By the way, I do consider them a top tier program. But by bammer standards, the standards they're constantly running their cock holsters about, they're an "also ran" program.
Oh - no doubt, they are top tier. Its the superiority complex I hate 24/7 - and not just in FB. They have it in everything. Texas was very good in the 60's/70's, had a lull in the 80's/90's and came back in the 2000's - but even a couple of those 2000 years was mediocre by their standards with 8 wins, Holiday Bowl, etc.
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I've never heard a national commentator refer to the UT fanbase as "Longhorn fan". Quite often, you'll hear them say "Bama fan"..and it's not a term of endearment. It's a reference to psycho, lunatic, I base too much of my life on Tide football fan. Hey Bama fan..settle down. It'll be alright.
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Oh - no doubt, they are top tier. Its the superiority complex I hate 24/7 - and not just in FB. They have it in everything.
^^^ THIS ^^^
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What qualifies them (or any program) as "one hell of a program"?
Let me put it to you this way:
In the past 10 years, if AU had nine 10+ win seasons (109-19, also, 2000 was the only year in that range that they didn't have 10 wins; it was a 9 win season), won one NC and appeared in another NC game in that same time frame, and made the money that Texas makes from their program, you would argue anybody that would hint that AU wasn't one hell of a program. Here are a few other statistics on Texas:
Texas ranks as the 2nd most winningest NCAA college football program with an 845-317-33 all-time win/loss record as of 2009.
Texas ranks 2nd in the NCAA post-season bowl game appearances with 48 appearances as of 2008 with a 25-21-2 record.
Texas holds an NCAA record for most winning seasons at 105 out of 116 seasons of football.
Texas is the only football program to post at least 10 wins in every season since 2001.
Texas is the only football program to post at least 9 wins in every season since 1998.
I'm not saying they're the best team EVAR or the end all be all of college football, but damn. I would be pretty fucking happy with my team.
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Let me put it to you this way:
In the past 10 years, if AU had nine 10+ win seasons (109-19, also, 2000 was the only year in that range that they didn't have 10 wins; it was a 9 win season), won one NC and appeared in another NC game in that same time frame, and made the money that Texas makes from their program, you would argue anybody that would hint that AU wasn't one hell of a program. Here are a few other statistics on Texas:
Texas ranks as the 2nd most winningest NCAA college football program with an 845-317-33 all-time win/loss record as of 2009.
Texas ranks 2nd in the NCAA post-season bowl game appearances with 48 appearances as of 2008 with a 25-21-2 record.
Texas holds an NCAA record for most winning seasons at 105 out of 116 seasons of football.
Texas is the only football program to post at least 10 wins in every season since 2001.
Texas is the only football program to post at least 9 wins in every season since 1998.
I'm not saying they're the best team EVAR or the end all be all of college football, but damn. I would be pretty fucking happy with my team.
Would you even buy a ticket to watch them play?
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Would you even buy a ticket to watch them play?
I might. THAT'S how impressive.
Asshole.
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Would you even buy a ticket to watch them play?
He would, but he still wouldn't go.
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He would, but he still wouldn't go.
Yeah, I think we all pretty much caught why he said that.
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He'll live.
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Let me put it to you this way:
In the past 10 years, if AU had nine 10+ win seasons (109-19, also, 2000 was the only year in that range that they didn't have 10 wins; it was a 9 win season), won one NC and appeared in another NC game in that same time frame, and made the money that Texas makes from their program, you would argue anybody that would hint that AU wasn't one hell of a program. Here are a few other statistics on Texas:
Texas ranks as the 2nd most winningest NCAA college football program with an 845-317-33 all-time win/loss record as of 2009.
Texas ranks 2nd in the NCAA post-season bowl game appearances with 48 appearances as of 2008 with a 25-21-2 record.
Texas holds an NCAA record for most winning seasons at 105 out of 116 seasons of football.
Texas is the only football program to post at least 10 wins in every season since 2001.
Texas is the only football program to post at least 9 wins in every season since 1998.
I'm not saying they're the best team EVAR or the end all be all of college football, but damn. I would be pretty phuking happy with my team.
And they'll remind you that you are not each of these.
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Let me put it to you this way:
In the past 10 years, if AU had nine 10+ win seasons (109-19, also, 2000 was the only year in that range that they didn't have 10 wins; it was a 9 win season), won one NC and appeared in another NC game in that same time frame, and made the money that Texas makes from their program, you would argue anybody that would hint that AU wasn't one hell of a program. Here are a few other statistics on Texas:
Texas ranks as the 2nd most winningest NCAA college football program with an 845-317-33 all-time win/loss record as of 2009.
Texas ranks 2nd in the NCAA post-season bowl game appearances with 48 appearances as of 2008 with a 25-21-2 record.
Texas holds an NCAA record for most winning seasons at 105 out of 116 seasons of football.
Texas is the only football program to post at least 10 wins in every season since 2001.
Texas is the only football program to post at least 9 wins in every season since 1998.
I'm not saying they're the best team EVAR or the end all be all of college football, but damn. I would be pretty fucking happy with my team.
I didn't argue with anybody making the statement. You'd know that if you'd read all of my question. I asked you to tell me what qualifies them (or any program) as "one hell of a program". Although you instead chose to make a comparison to Auburn, instead of your mighty tahd program that you've never seen play in person, you still didn't really give too many parameters as to what qualifies a "program" as "one hell of a program"...which is pretty subjective anyway I guess. Your answer, while basically dodging the question, tells us all a great deal about your thinking.
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I didn't argue with anybody making the statement. You'd know that if you'd read all of my question. I asked you to tell me what qualifies them (or any program) as "one hell of a program". Although you instead chose to make a comparison to Auburn, instead of your mighty tahd program that you've never seen play in person, you still didn't really give too many parameters as to what qualifies a "program" as "one hell of a program"...which is pretty subjective anyway I guess. Your answer, while basically dodging the question, tells us all a great deal about your thinking.
It wasn't dodging the question at all. You asked what qualified "them" (Texas), or any other program as "one hell of a program". I specifically answered why I thought Texas was one hell of a program. As you said, the rest is subjective. It's not like you can draw a line and say "Well, 105 winning seasons of football is impressive, but 100 isn't." I can't give you EXACT numbers and parameters. Also, I wasn't drawing a line from Texas to Auburn, comparing the two in a line item fashion. I wasn't comparing the two at all. I was simply trying to put it in a way you could relate to, or identify with.
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Would you even buy a ticket to watch them play?
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