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Title: Hark, lawyers of the board, future lawyers and Texans....lend me your ears
Post by: AUTiger1 on March 10, 2010, 05:40:36 PM
I have a few questions for you that I have never thought about. 

I had a co-worker walk into my office today and wanted some advice.  Her son is a senior in HS, smart little dude, 34 ACT, straight A's....blah..blah..blah.   He wants to get his BS in business and then he wants to go to law school.  She wanted to know if it would make any difference in his chances of getting accepted into law school if he were to get his BS from a top 25 school of business than it would from getting one from say.....UAH or UNA? 

He has a full paid ride to aTm and possibly to SMU.  Texans this is where you come in........what is the reputation of SMU compared to aTm.  I know that SMU is supposed to rank higher nationally in their school of business but is there that much of a difference?

I know that here in Huntsville, companies would look to hire GT and AU grads before they would a UAH or UTC grad.  Not so much that way any more, is it pretty much the same for law schools?  Will they look at someone different that has a 4.0 from somewhere like aTm than they would someone who has a 4.0 from somewhere like UNA or UAH?  I honestly have no clue about the selection process.
Title: Re: Hark, lawyers of the board, future lawyers and Texans....lend me your ears
Post by: Vandy Vol on March 10, 2010, 08:46:59 PM
Law schools appear to be mostly concerned with your LSAT score and extracurricular activities/employment.  Generally speaking, a 3.0 GPA from a more prestigious school is more appealing than a 3.0 GPA from an average school; that principle holds true for law school admissions.  Keep in mind, however, that the LSAT is a standardized test that theoretically measures your aptitude for the practice of law.  So a guy that gets 170 on the LSAT and a 3.0 from UNA has an advantage over someone who got a 150 and a 3.0 from Duke.

You can have any undergraduate degree you want; law school does not have undergraduate requisites.  As such, your major and your GPA are probably going to be less of a factor than your LSAT score, your extracurricular activities and your employment.  Get some moot court or argumentation and debate experience in college.  I would also advise trying to be a "runner" for law firms during the summer.  This not only shows that you have a legitimate interest in law, but that you have had some experience with how attorneys and legal offices operate.  You'll also pick up a little information that will help with the first year of law school.

Although this is far down the road at this point, here's a little advice on the selection of a law school:  The highest ranked schools are not always the best.  As an example, Cumberland School of Law (Samford University) is ranked far lower than the Alabama School of Law.  Nonetheless, Cumberland invariably stomps the shit out of Alabama in the American Bar Association's national competitions.  While I was on the appellate team at Cumberland, we frequently beat schools like Alabama, Georgia, Emory, Texas, Kentucky, Chicago-Kent, Harvard, etc.

I'm not sure why this is, but higher ranked law schools tend to take a more theoretical approach to practicing law.  Schools like Cumberland, Mercer and Stetson excel at teaching how to actually practice law in a court room, which is ideally what you're supposed to learn.  I've heard many attorneys in the Birmingham area state that they would rather hire a Cumberland graduate due to their writing abilities and practical knowledge of courtroom demeanor.

In short, do some investigation as to what the law school focuses upon, how they fare in mock competitions and what the opinion of local lawyers is regarding the schools.  I think you'll find that you would much rather receive practical knowledge than legal theory.
Title: Re: Hark, lawyers of the board, future lawyers and Texans....lend me your ears
Post by: AUTiger1 on March 10, 2010, 10:19:39 PM
Thanks, I will pass that info along to her. 
Title: Re: Hark, lawyers of the board, future lawyers and Texans....lend me your ears
Post by: Saniflush on March 11, 2010, 07:20:16 AM
Apparently they give special consideration to homosexuals as well.  see Taylor.

So if he is not now but willing to learn, there could be some additional avenues.
Title: Re: Hark, lawyers of the board, future lawyers and Texans....lend me your ears
Post by: wesfau2 on March 11, 2010, 09:42:31 AM
Tell the kid to run far away from the notion of being a lawyer.

Get an advanced degree in some other field (eg - MBA).
Title: Re: Hark, lawyers of the board, future lawyers and Texans....lend me your ears
Post by: AWK on March 11, 2010, 01:09:03 PM
Tell the kid to run far away from the notion of being a lawyer.

Get an advanced degree in some other field (eg - MBA).

Agree.
Title: Re: Hark, lawyers of the board, future lawyers and Texans....lend me your ears
Post by: Godfather on March 11, 2010, 03:01:07 PM
I hear this firm is hiring...you don't even need a law degree.

Attorney (http://birmingham-attorney-al.com/Default.aspx)
Title: Re: Hark, lawyers of the board, future lawyers and Texans....lend me your ears
Post by: Vandy Vol on March 11, 2010, 03:02:13 PM
I hear this firm is hiring...you don't even need a law degree.

Attorney (http://birmingham-attorney-al.com/Default.aspx)

Yes, but I also hear that they pay in blow jobs.  Not a bad perk, but it makes paying the bills difficult.
Title: Re: Hark, lawyers of the board, future lawyers and Texans....lend me your ears
Post by: Godfather on March 11, 2010, 03:05:01 PM
Yes, but I also hear that they pay in blow jobs.  Not a bad perk, but it makes paying the bills difficult.
This guy looks like he takes it all the way to the balls.

(http://birmingham-attorney-al.com/Portals/0/brad-howell.jpg)
Title: Re: Hark, lawyers of the board, future lawyers and Texans....lend me your ears
Post by: Godfather on March 11, 2010, 03:05:51 PM
How do you guys get any work done?
Title: Re: Hark, lawyers of the board, future lawyers and Texans....lend me your ears
Post by: Vandy Vol on March 11, 2010, 03:06:25 PM
This guy looks like he takes it all the way to the balls.

(http://birmingham-attorney-al.com/Portals/0/brad-howell.jpg)

I saw him under a bridge giving a reach around to a 400 pound homeless dude.

True story.
Title: Re: Hark, lawyers of the board, future lawyers and Texans....lend me your ears
Post by: Vandy Vol on March 11, 2010, 03:08:17 PM
How do you guys get any work done?

Multi-tasking.  As an unfortunate result of this, some of my replies on TigersX accidentally get inserted into legal motions.  That's when I learned that discussions about Epic Beard Man and fellatio were not valid legal arguments...
Title: Re: Hark, lawyers of the board, future lawyers and Texans....lend me your ears
Post by: Godfather on March 11, 2010, 03:10:41 PM
Multi-tasking.  As an unfortunate result of this, some of my replies on TigersX accidentally get inserted into legal motions.  That's when I learned that discussions about Epic Beard Man and fellatio were not valid legal arguments...
:bugs:
Title: Re: Hark, lawyers of the board, future lawyers and Texans....lend me your ears
Post by: Saniflush on March 11, 2010, 03:11:44 PM
Multi-tasking.  As an unfortunate result of this, some of my replies on TigersX accidentally get inserted into legal motions.  That's when I learned that discussions about Epic Beard Man and fellatio were not valid legal arguments...

They are if you called da amber lamps.
Title: Re: Hark, lawyers of the board, future lawyers and Texans....lend me your ears
Post by: Godfather on March 11, 2010, 03:14:36 PM
Yes, but I also hear that they pay in blow jobs.  Not a bad perk, but it makes paying the bills difficult.
I had heard the other big problem was the office "smell"
Title: Re: Hark, lawyers of the board, future lawyers and Texans....lend me your ears
Post by: Vandy Vol on March 11, 2010, 03:21:12 PM
They are if you called da amber lamps.

We don't chase ambalamps.