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Title: Projected NFL draft possibilies
Post by: jadennis on February 16, 2010, 06:11:58 PM
Every year before the draft, ESPN lists all draft possibilities from each program.  There are always many more listed than will ever be drafted, but it gives you an idea of the number that are at least in the discussion for signing as a free agent.  They also rank the top 100 players for each draft, which is also indicated in the list of players.

SEC programs: number listed - number ranked in the top 100 players
Alabama - 16 - 4
LSU - 16 - 2
Florida - 15 - 8
Ole Miss - 13 - 3
Georgia - 13 - 1
Tennessee - 10 - 3
Kentucky - 8 - 0
Vanderbilt - 6 - 0
Auburn - 5 - 0
Arkansas - 4 - 0
Miss St - 4 - 0
S. Carolina - 4 - 0




Other notable programs: Programs of interest (Northwestern, Boise, etc) or any with at least 8 listed.
USC - 14 - 6
Texas - 13 - 5
Oklahoma - 13 - 5
Notre Dame - 12 - 2
Miami - 12 - 1
Michigan - 11 - 2
Virginia Tech - 11 - 1
Oklahoma St - 10 - 3
Illinois - 10 - 2
Kansas St - 10 - 0
Penn State - 9 - 3
California - 9 - 2
Cincinnati - 9 - 2
Clemson - 9 - 2
Pitt - 9 - 1
Troy - 9 - 1
Ohio St - 9 - 1
Stanford - 9 - 0
Virginia - 9 - 0
E Carolina - 9 - 0
Iowa - 8 - 2
UConn - 8 - 0
Texas Tech - 8 - 0
Indiana - 8 - 0
NC State - 8 - 0
Purdue 8 - 1
UCLA - 8 - 1
Florida State - 8 - 1
Fresno State - 8 - 1
Maryland - 8 - 1
Utah - 8
Rutgers - 8 - 2
Nebraska - 7- 2
Northwestern - 6 - 1
Georgia Tech - 6 - 3
W Virginia - 6 - 0
Wisconsin - 6 - 0
Oregon - 5 - 1
BYU - 5 - 1
TCU - 5 - 2
Iowa St - 5 - 0
Texas A&M - 3 - 0
Boise St - 2 - 1

Of course, the numbers depend on a lot of things....how many seniors you happen to have this year...how many NFL quality juniors you have, etc.  

What will be interesting to see are which teams can reload after taking big hits.  Like Ole Miss...I'm guessing they don't have a pipeline of similar talent just filling in the holes.  Alabama very well may.  Florida does on paper, but notice that 8 of their 15 guys are in the Top 100 on the draft board....that's amazing.

Then there are teams like Nebraska and Ohio State that are currently strong teams, but are losing less than 10 guys worthy of being listed.
Title: Re: Projected NFL draft possibilies
Post by: AUChizad on February 16, 2010, 06:16:44 PM
Troy has 9-1, we have 5-0.

Very telling...
Title: Re: Projected NFL draft possibilies
Post by: Vandy Vol on February 16, 2010, 06:19:58 PM
Troy has 9-1, we have 5-0.

Very telling...

Don't forget Vandy at 6-0.
Title: Re: Projected NFL draft possibilies
Post by: AUChizad on February 16, 2010, 06:28:48 PM
Don't forget Vandy at 6-0.
Kentucky 8-0 for that matter...
Title: Re: Projected NFL draft possibilies
Post by: Vandy Vol on February 16, 2010, 07:04:48 PM
Kentucky 8-0 for that matter...

Northwestern at 6-1.
Title: Re: Projected NFL draft possibilies
Post by: Buzz Killington on February 16, 2010, 10:47:29 PM
Iowa State at 5-0 is telling as well...
Title: Re: Projected NFL draft possibilies
Post by: Jumbo on February 17, 2010, 12:17:09 AM
Iowa State at 5-0 is telling as well...
Chizik left them a monster.
Title: Re: Projected NFL draft possibilies
Post by: Iwannaplay on February 17, 2010, 12:24:50 AM
Troy has 9-1, we have 5-0.

Very telling...

We'll have two for sure get drafted our, DE/OLB hybrids Brandon Lang and Cameron Sheffield, and our QB, Brown, might go in the later rounds. Other than that the rest will be FAs, I think.
Title: Re: Projected NFL draft possibilies
Post by: djsimp on February 17, 2010, 08:51:02 AM
I was seriously thinking Tate would get a little more love than what he is getting.
Title: Re: Projected NFL draft possibilies
Post by: GH2001 on February 17, 2010, 09:31:32 AM
Troy has 9-1, we have 5-0.

Very telling...

It wasnt Tubs fault. I promise.  :rofl:
Title: Re: Projected NFL draft possibilies
Post by: jadennis on February 17, 2010, 10:50:30 AM
I was seriously thinking Tate would get a little more love than what he is getting.

They have him as the #9 running back.  A lot of people (Kiper Jr maybe?) have in the top 5 for senior backs, but there are some juniors in front of him overall.

Here are the top 10 backs in the draft according to ESPN.
1. CJ Spiller - Clemson - SR
2. Jahvid Best - Cal - JR
3. Ryan Matthews Fresno St - JR
4. Jonathan Dwyer - Ga Tech - JR
5. Dexter McCluster - Ole Miss - SR
6. Montario Hardesty - Tennessee - SR
7. Joe McNight - USC - JR
8. Toby Gerhart - Stanford - JR
9. Ben Tate - Auburn - SR
10. Charles Scott - LSU - SR

CBS Sportsline has them like this:
1. CJ Spiller - Clemson - SR
2. Jonathan Dwyer - Ga Tech - JR
3. Jahvid Best - Cal - JR
4. Ryan Matthews Fresno St - JR
5. Anthony Dixon - Miss St - SR
6. Toby Gerhart - Stanford - JR
7. Joe McNight - USC - JR
8. Montario Hardesty - Tennessee - SR
9. Ben Tate - Auburn - SR
10. Joique Bell - Wayne State - SR

Title: Re: Projected NFL draft possibilies
Post by: Kaos on February 17, 2010, 10:53:38 AM
They have him as the #9 running back.  A lot of people (Kiper Jr maybe?) have in the top 5 for senior backs, but there are some juniors in front of him overall.

Here are the top 10 backs in the draft according to ESPN.
1. CJ Spiller - Clemson - SR
2. Jahvid Best - Cal - JR
3. Ryan Matthews Fresno St - JR
4. Jonathan Dwyer - Ga Tech - JR
5. Dexter McCluster - Ole Miss - SR
6. Montario Hardesty - Tennessee - SR
7. Joe McNight - USC - JR
8. Toby Gerhart - Stanford - JR
9. Ben Tate - Auburn - SR
10. Charles Scott - LSU - SR

CBS Sportsline has them like this:
1. CJ Spiller - Clemson - SR
2. Jonathan Dwyer - Ga Tech - JR
3. Jahvid Best - Cal - JR
4. Ryan Matthews Fresno St - JR
5. Anthony Dixon - Miss St - SR
6. Toby Gerhart - Stanford - JR
7. Joe McNight - USC - JR
8. Montario Hardesty - Tennessee - SR
9. Ben Tate - Auburn - SR
10. Joique Bell - Wayne State - SR



I'm just not enamored with McCluster.  Punt returner maybe.  Can't see him as an every down kind of guy or really somebody a team would want to waste an early pick on. 
Title: Re: Projected NFL draft possibilies
Post by: AWK on February 17, 2010, 10:55:06 AM
I'm just not enamored with McCluster.  Punt returner maybe.  Can't see him as an every down kind of guy or really somebody a team would want to waste an early pick on. 
Felix Jones, Chris Johnson, Devin Hester, Deshawn Jackson, Percy Harvin.
Title: Re: Projected NFL draft possibilies
Post by: djsimp on February 17, 2010, 11:06:09 AM
I would put Tate in front of several of those guys for many reasons but one of the main reasons is because of his body frame. Tate is much more of a NFL build than many of the others.
Title: Re: Projected NFL draft possibilies
Post by: Kaos on February 17, 2010, 11:07:03 AM
Felix Jones, Chris Johnson, Devin Hester, Deshawn Jackson, Percy Harvin.

Would all kick Dexter McCluster's ass and mail him back to his mother in four separate Fed Ex packages. 

What's your point?
Title: Re: Projected NFL draft possibilies
Post by: AWK on February 17, 2010, 11:15:35 AM
Would all kick Dexter McCluster's ass and mail him back to his mother in four separate Fed Ex packages. 

What's your point?
They are all small, quick RB/hybrid players that have made it in the NFL.  Just making a point that it could work for McCluster.
Title: Re: Projected NFL draft possibilies
Post by: wesfau2 on February 17, 2010, 11:23:14 AM
They are all small, quick RB/hybrid players that have made it in the NFL.  Just making a point that it could work for McCluster.

Jones is 6' and 218lbs.

I'd leave him out of this comparison.
Title: Re: Projected NFL draft possibilies
Post by: AWK on February 17, 2010, 12:09:29 PM
Jones is 6' and 218lbs.

I'd leave him out of this comparison.
He is small compared to the majority of starting RB's in the league. 
Title: Re: Projected NFL draft possibilies
Post by: djsimp on February 17, 2010, 01:18:33 PM
He is small compared to the majority of starting RB's in the league. 

Exactly the point I am making about Tate.
Title: Re: Projected NFL draft possibilies
Post by: wesfau2 on February 17, 2010, 01:41:42 PM
He is small compared to the majority of starting RB's in the league. 

You sure 'bout that?
Title: Re: Projected NFL draft possibilies
Post by: AWK on February 17, 2010, 01:50:42 PM
You sure 'bout that?
Yes.  Michael Turner, Adrian Peterson, Brandon Jacobs, Ronnie Brown, DeAngelo Williams, Marion Barber, etc.....
Title: Re: Projected NFL draft possibilies
Post by: wesfau2 on February 17, 2010, 01:59:00 PM
Yes.  Michael Turner

5'10"/244

Quote
, Adrian Peterson

6'1"/217 (or 5'10"/212 if you meant the Chicago AP)

Quote
, Brandon Jacobs,

This guy doesn't count...he's a freak.

Quote
Ronnie Brown,

6'0'/230

Quote
DeAngelo Williams,

5'9"/217

Quote
Marion Barber, etc.....

6'0"/222
Title: Re: Projected NFL draft possibilies
Post by: AWK on February 17, 2010, 02:01:09 PM
5'10"/244

6'1"/217 (or 5'10"/212 if you meant the Chicago AP)

This guy doesn't count...he's a freak.

6'0'/230

5'9"/217

6'0"/222
Minus Williams, they are all bigger.
Title: Re: Projected NFL draft possibilies
Post by: jadennis on February 17, 2010, 02:01:53 PM
What should really be pointed out is that McCluster is not only short, just under 5' 8", but more importantly, he's not even 165 lbs.

He is, by NFL standards, tiny.  Teeny tiny.

What Warrick Dunn did at 5' 9" and 190 lbs was considered to be pretty amazing considering his size.  He would run over McCluster like Jacobs did Laron Landry.

Visual aid (check it out at 22 seconds and 29 seconds):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCQaI3mLE1U# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCQaI3mLE1U#)



Title: Re: Projected NFL draft possibilies
Post by: wesfau2 on February 17, 2010, 04:16:31 PM
Minus Williams, they are all bigger.

Saying that with a straight face?

Turner is the only one that you can legitimately call "bigger" and that's a weight issue.  The rest are very comparable.  Within 2" and 12 pounds.
Title: Re: Projected NFL draft possibilies
Post by: AWK on February 17, 2010, 05:18:53 PM
Saying that with a straight face?

Turner is the only one that you can legitimately call "bigger" and that's a weight issue.  The rest are very comparable.  Within 2" and 12 pounds.
Semantics.
Title: Re: Projected NFL draft possibilies
Post by: wesfau2 on February 17, 2010, 05:25:36 PM
Semantics.

Fuckin lawyers.
Title: Re: Projected NFL draft possibilies
Post by: Townhallsavoy on February 17, 2010, 05:31:01 PM
There's a possibility the Saints take McCluster in the 1st round. 

If the Seahawks pony up the dough for Reggie Bush, the Saints will take McCluster to fill his spot.  Then we use the extra 2nd round pick for whatever we needed in the 1st. 

Bush is set to make $8 million next year.  We don't need to pay a situational player that much. 

My personal opinion is that Bush is essential to our offense and special teams, but this is just what I've heard via the air waves.