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Title: Next Metric of Success?
Post by: wesfau2 on February 04, 2010, 11:47:51 AM
So we've survived the first season of Chizik's tenure.  A bowl trip, and win, helped to ease the discomfort with the gamble hire.

We made it through signing day and inked a hell of a class.

What's the next milestone/success factor to reach?

Minimal offseason issues?  90K at A-Day?  Wait until December and judge the W's and L's?
Title: Re: Next Metric of Success?
Post by: Buzz Killington on February 04, 2010, 11:50:37 AM
Percentage of qualifiers, and minimal off-season issues.
Title: Re: Next Metric of Success?
Post by: AWK on February 04, 2010, 11:54:31 AM
1. Win - loss record next year.

2. Improvement on both sides of the ball.

3. Class qualifying.
Title: Re: Next Metric of Success?
Post by: Kaos on February 04, 2010, 12:56:45 PM
Pretty simple, really. 

Given the personnel replacements that have to be made (and so many of you seem to be missing the point on how difficult it's going to be to replace both Todd and Tate) the metric to judge his progress should be fairly simple.

1) Maintain the level.  If he can avoid a significant dip (two or three games) that's going to be a bigger achievement than winning eight this year. If he can follow up this recruiting class with another that addresses needs (more so than racking stars) that will also be a win.

2) Fix the motherfucking defense.  Make all the excuses you want, but we've been thinner, we've had fewer playmakers, we've played tougher schedules.  We've never, ever, ever, ever ever fielded a worse defense than this one.  Ever. That is absolutely unacceptable.  I don't care what else Auburn does, but we better by damn play defense.  There's no reason for a team helmed by a defensive-minded coach, as he's supposed to be, to be that fucking awful.  We proved (against an admittedly stagnant and much overrated Alabama offense) that we are capable of better.

3) Answer special teams questions.  You shouldn't be still trying new guys out in the last two games of the season.  Find somebody who can make decent decisions, has a little speed and then drill his ass over and over and over until he understands that fumbling the ball means that the next thing Nova gets to chase in pre-game is his scrotum.
Title: Re: Next Metric of Success?
Post by: Godfather on February 04, 2010, 01:01:37 PM
Cart before horse... however something I am concerned about will be how we do when we lose Gus. ie who Chizik gets as replacements for outgoing staff...becuase it will happen.
Title: Re: Next Metric of Success?
Post by: Mr. Sensible on February 04, 2010, 01:18:38 PM
Cart before horse... however something I am concerned about will be how we do when we lose Gus. ie who Chizik gets as replacements for outgoing staff...becuase it will happen.

This +1
Title: Re: Next Metric of Success?
Post by: GH2001 on February 04, 2010, 01:34:00 PM
Pretty simple, really. 

Given the personnel replacements that have to be made (and so many of you seem to be missing the point on how difficult it's going to be to replace both Todd and Tate) the metric to judge his progress should be fairly simple.

1) Maintain the level.  If he can avoid a significant dip (two or three games) that's going to be a bigger achievement than winning eight this year. If he can follow up this recruiting class with another that addresses needs (more so than racking stars) that will also be a win.

2) Fix the motherphuking defense.  Make all the excuses you want, but we've been thinner, we've had fewer playmakers, we've played tougher schedules.  We've never, ever, ever, ever ever fielded a worse defense than this one.  Ever. That is absolutely unacceptable.  I don't care what else Auburn does, but we better by damn play defense.  There's no reason for a team helmed by a defensive-minded coach, as he's supposed to be, to be that phuking awful.  We proved (against an admittedly stagnant and much overrated Alabama offense) that we are capable of better.

3) Answer special teams questions.  You shouldn't be still trying new guys out in the last two games of the season.  Find somebody who can make decent decisions, has a little speed and then drill his ass over and over and over until he understands that fumbling the ball means that the next thing Nova gets to chase in pre-game is his scrotum.


On #2 - Not sure if we've ever been that thin before. Maybe we've been thinner overall on D but as far as the front 7 and especially the LB's, I've never seen it like that. We could not blitz the way Roof wanted to. That is a fact. 3 scholarship LB's a lot of the season. That is unheard of. Poor Josh Bynes was busting his ass with no plays off. We addressed those needs in this class and I expect the D to get better. It really can't get worse.
Title: Re: Next Metric of Success?
Post by: wesfau2 on February 04, 2010, 02:07:02 PM
Pretty simple, really. 

Given the personnel replacements that have to be made (and so many of you seem to be missing the point on how difficult it's going to be to replace both Todd and Tate) the metric to judge his progress should be fairly simple.

1) Maintain the level.  If he can avoid a significant dip (two or three games) that's going to be a bigger achievement than winning eight this year. If he can follow up this recruiting class with another that addresses needs (more so than racking stars) that will also be a win.

2) Fix the motherfucking defense.  Make all the excuses you want, but we've been thinner, we've had fewer playmakers, we've played tougher schedules.  We've never, ever, ever, ever ever fielded a worse defense than this one.  Ever. That is absolutely unacceptable.  I don't care what else Auburn does, but we better by damn play defense.  There's no reason for a team helmed by a defensive-minded coach, as he's supposed to be, to be that fucking awful.  We proved (against an admittedly stagnant and much overrated Alabama offense) that we are capable of better.

3) Answer special teams questions.  You shouldn't be still trying new guys out in the last two games of the season.  Find somebody who can make decent decisions, has a little speed and then drill his ass over and over and over until he understands that fumbling the ball means that the next thing Nova gets to chase in pre-game is his scrotum.



Can't argue with this.  Who am I kidding?  I can argue with anything.

I won't, though, because I mostly agree.
Title: Re: Next Metric of Success?
Post by: Jumbo on February 04, 2010, 02:18:05 PM
Cart before horse... however something I am concerned about will be how we do when we lose Gus. ie who Chizik gets as replacements for outgoing staff...becuase it will happen.
Gus will never leave Auburn, or this year will be his last.
Title: Re: Next Metric of Success?
Post by: djsimp on February 04, 2010, 02:44:33 PM
Why does this have to be in metric?
Title: Re: Next Metric of Success?
Post by: wesfau2 on February 04, 2010, 02:46:15 PM
Why does this have to be in metric?


It's all metric these days....and ball bearings.
Title: Re: Next Metric of Success?
Post by: Buzz Killington on February 04, 2010, 02:51:54 PM

It's all metric these days....and ball bearings.

And I'm gonna need about ten quarts of anti-freeze, preferably Prestone. No, no make that Quaker State.
Title: Re: Next Metric of Success?
Post by: wesfau2 on February 04, 2010, 03:04:52 PM
And I'm gonna need about ten quarts of anti-freeze, preferably Prestone. No, no make that Quaker State.

And somebody clean those windows!
Title: Re: Next Metric of Success?
Post by: djsimp on February 04, 2010, 03:10:26 PM
Is the gas tank on the right side of European cars?
Title: Re: Next Metric of Success?
Post by: Kaos on February 04, 2010, 03:17:13 PM
Is the gas tank on the right side of European cars?

Yes, it is.  I got a text message that said so. Unless it isn't and then I'm saying that would also be true.
Title: Re: Next Metric of Success?
Post by: jadennis on February 04, 2010, 03:33:09 PM
I went to Germany to ask Ferdinand Porsche, but he was dead.  Seemed like a nice guy though.
Title: Re: Next Metric of Success?
Post by: AUTiger1 on February 04, 2010, 04:09:18 PM
I went to Germany to ask Ferdinand Porsche, but he was dead.  Seemed like a nice guy though.

So you almost met him?
Title: Re: Next Metric of Success?
Post by: Godfather on February 05, 2010, 12:16:48 PM
And somebody clean those windows!
There is an incredible amount of muck and filth.