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Title: What Will Tim Tebow Do Next?
Post by: Mr. Sensible on February 01, 2010, 12:45:00 PM
http://blogcritics.org/sports/article/what-will-tim-tebow-do-next/ (http://blogcritics.org/sports/article/what-will-tim-tebow-do-next/)

Give it a read and comment please. Thanks.
Title: Re: What Will Tim Tebow Do Next?
Post by: CCTAU on February 01, 2010, 12:57:02 PM
Others less talented have been given a shot (Akili Smith?). Tebow is one that might be a good low round pick and develop. Use him in the wildcat while training him. Who knows. Roger Stabauch was a runner out of college. And he bounced around the NFL just long enough to get a pension, huh?
Title: Re: What Will Tim Tebow Do Next?
Post by: Birmingham on February 01, 2010, 01:31:27 PM
John Parker Wilson enjoyed an NFL salary as a clipboard holding QB last year for the Falcons.  There's no reason in the world the same can't be had by Tim Tebow for any other team, falcons included for that matter.
Title: Re: What Will Tim Tebow Do Next?
Post by: Mr. Sensible on February 01, 2010, 01:41:24 PM
Others less talented have been given a shot (Akili Smith?). Tebow is one that might be a good low round pick and develop. Use him in the wildcat while training him. Who knows. Roger Stabauch was a runner out of college. And he bounced around the NFL just long enough to get a pension, huh?

Totally different era.
Title: Re: What Will Tim Tebow Do Next?
Post by: Mr. Sensible on February 01, 2010, 01:42:09 PM
John Parker Wilson enjoyed an NFL salary as a clipboard holding QB last year for the Falcons.  There's no reason in the world the same can't be had by Tim Tebow for any other team, falcons included for that matter.

JPW, for all his flaws, can perform a three, five, and seven step drop without tripping over his own feet or fumbling the snap. Plus, he has great hair.
Title: Re: What Will Tim Tebow Do Next?
Post by: ggraf71 on February 01, 2010, 01:46:21 PM
John Parker Wilson enjoyed an NFL salary as a clipboard holding QB last year for the Falcons.  There's no reason in the world the same can't be had by Tim Tebow for any other team, falcons included for that matter.

I agree. Tebow seems like more of a coach than anything. He could hold the clipboard for a few seasons, maybe start a couple games here and there. After his contract, if he shows proficiency at learning and teaching the systems, I could see him becoming some sort of coordinator, maybe at a non BCS school.
Title: Re: What Will Tim Tebow Do Next?
Post by: Mr. Sensible on February 01, 2010, 01:50:20 PM
I agree. Tebow seems like more of a coach than anything. He could hold the clipboard for a few seasons, maybe start a couple games here and there. After his contract, if he shows proficiency at learning and teaching the systems, I could see him becoming some sort of coordinator, maybe at a non BCS school.

I think his life after football doesn't include coaching. Not immediately at least.
Title: Re: What Will Tim Tebow Do Next?
Post by: AUTailgatingRules on February 01, 2010, 02:47:10 PM
I am glad that Tebow is gone from college as I am tired of hearing his name 8 million times a weekend.  Hell they would talk about him when Florida was not even playing.  That being said, I may be in the minority with my opinion.  He has been a winner on every level he has ever played and it's not like Florida played shitty competition over the last 4 years.  I actually believe that Tebow will be a succesful pro QB and if I was an owner i would take a chance on him in the pros. 

I don't watch much pro ball but it seems to me that the QB was in the shotgun an awful lot during the playoff games i watched last weekend.  I would not be surprised to see some low level team draft him, build an offense around him, and play a style that noone else in the pros is currently playing.  There are enough teams that go 5-11 every year to take a shot at doing something a little different.
Title: Re: What Will Tim Tebow Do Next?
Post by: Kaos on February 01, 2010, 02:53:46 PM
I think his life after football doesn't include coaching. Not immediately at least.

Will it finally include lots of fucking?
Title: Re: What Will Tim Tebow Do Next?
Post by: AUChizad on February 01, 2010, 03:02:54 PM
Will it finally include lots of fucking?
Perhaps the most disappointing waste of potential is not how he may perform at the NFL level, but the fact that he let all of that amazingly hot college co-ed strange that would be at his complete disposal pass him by.

I guarantee you that will haunt him on his death bed.
Title: Re: What Will Tim Tebow Do Next?
Post by: AUTiger1 on February 01, 2010, 03:15:10 PM
Not saying this is what he does, but it makes sense to me.

Tebow will play a few years in the NFL (What position? I have no clue), he will make a few million dollars during this time.  After his NFL days he will take his $$$$$ and help his dad with mission work.  As much as he has talked about it, it wouldn't surprise me to see him do mission work.  I think that is where his heart is and what he really wants to do.
Title: Re: What Will Tim Tebow Do Next?
Post by: Kaos on February 01, 2010, 03:18:19 PM
Perhaps the most disappointing waste of potential is not how he may perform at the NFL level, but the fact that he let all of that amazingly hot college co-ed strange that would be at his complete disposal pass him by.

I guarantee you that will haunt him on his death bed.

It haunts me and I had nowhere near the potential.  I left too much on the table out of a misguided sense of propriety or ridiculous standards or completely misreading situations.  Missed too much low hanging fruit, as it were.
Title: Re: What Will Tim Tebow Do Next?
Post by: Mr. Sensible on February 01, 2010, 04:38:50 PM
Will it finally include lots of fucking?

I kinda get the feeling ole Timmy doesn't operate like normal males (on either side of the sex fence) do. I know that sounds strange, but I kind get the impression he doesn't need the...uhm...release as it were.

This is getting off in the wrong direction.

Point is, I don't see him as a viable NFL player. That's me.

Title: Re: What Will Tim Tebow Do Next?
Post by: Kaos on February 01, 2010, 04:51:55 PM
I kinda get the feeling ole Timmy doesn't operate like normal males (on either side of the sex fence) do. I know that sounds strange, but I kind get the impression he doesn't need the...uhm...release as it were.

This is getting off in the wrong direction.

Point is, I don't see him as a viable NFL player. That's me.



You said getting off
Title: Re: What Will Tim Tebow Do Next?
Post by: djsimp on February 01, 2010, 07:53:51 PM
Tebow has strong spiritual beliefs and has stayed true to it and I say more power to him. Any guy that can restrain from tapping that ass of the finest of girls that Florida has to offer for his belief in God is true. I certainly believe that he can take that same kind of focus and do what he needs to do to make himself better to be successful in the NFL. I, along with thousands of others, have said he wouldnt last in the SEC either. Ok, I know some of you are going to say, "the SEC is not the NFL", I understand that. The point is that the guy has the focus and drive to do make it. I think he will.
Title: Re: What Will Tim Tebow Do Next?
Post by: Tiger Wench on February 01, 2010, 08:03:24 PM
Saw where a CNBC analyst said that because he is squeaky clean, his endor$ement potential in the NFL is unlimited $$$$$$...
Title: Re: What Will Tim Tebow Do Next?
Post by: Vandy Vol on February 01, 2010, 08:17:48 PM
I don't know that Tebow has what it takes to turn a shitty professional team around without an experienced quarterback or coach teaching him.  Unfortunately, due to his popularity and success in college, he will likely be drafted by a shitty professional team.  The Jags seem to be the frontrunner right now, as they have shown the most actual interest, at least in the media.  Holt and Sims-Walker are not bad targets, but the deciding factor would be the Jags' horrendous offensive line.  Garrard was sacked 42 times this past season, which, to my knowledge, is only exceeded by Aaron Rodgers at Green Bay.  That would simply be a horrible place to put Tebow, especially considering his recent string of injuries and poor performances.  If Tebow goes to the Jags, I think that will pretty much end his career unless he can find a way out of Jacksonville before he gets smashed to pieces, or unless Jacksonville improves their O-line.
Title: Re: What Will Tim Tebow Do Next?
Post by: AUTiger1 on February 01, 2010, 10:10:16 PM
Tebow+Jags=ticket sales!  I am sure they love him in FL and would gladly pack the stadium to see him suit up for the Jags.
Title: Re: What Will Tim Tebow Do Next?
Post by: BZ770 on February 01, 2010, 10:57:52 PM
I don't think Tebow will be injured as much in the pros.  If he's passing out of the gun and not running the ball that much, he has a big enough frame to handle some some licks.
Title: Re: What Will Tim Tebow Do Next?
Post by: Kaos on February 01, 2010, 11:11:09 PM
I don't think Tebow will be injured as much in the pros.  If he's passing out of the gun and not running the ball that much, he has a big enough frame to handle some some licks.

Injuries won't be a problem.  Unless his jaw gets tired from snapping gum or he gets hat-band burn.  While standing on the sidelines. 
Title: Re: What Will Tim Tebow Do Next?
Post by: Vandy Vol on February 01, 2010, 11:35:23 PM
David Garrard frequently rushes the ball.  Byron Leftwich did so with some consistency, but not as much as Garrard, and Mark Brunell certainly wasn't what I would call a rushing quarterback.  I honestly don't know anything about the offensive coordinator, but their current offense seems to be based around a mobile quarterback.  This isn't to say that the Jaguars are definitely going to use Tebow as another rushing threat, but the team has seemed to operate that way for the past few seasons.

If they attempt to take Tebow out of his element, as well as take the team out of its element by adjusting to a more pass-friendly offensive scheme, then they may still run the risk of injuring him due to inexperience/discomfort with the offensive scheme/whatever you want to call it.  Once you've had a rushing quarterback for a few years, you get into a rhythm with that style of play.  Even if we assume that Tebow won't be rushing, those 42 sacks that Garrard took still suggest to me that, regardless of the scheme, he's going to be in danger of getting nailed by experienced professional athletes.

Of course, all of this assumes that he even goes to Jacksonville and gets to start over Garrard.  Given enough time to adjust to the pros as a backup can advance his career, but I honestly don't see him growing as a player at Jacksonville if they don't turn things around quickly.  Art Schlicter, Gino Torretta, Andre Ware, Carson Palmer and Jason White are just a few college quarterbacks whose starting careers ended (or were delayed) due mainly to (in my opinion) playing for sub-par teams that couldn't give them the opportunity to play with and learn from quality athletes and, in many instances, couldn't protect them from quality defensive athletes.

This isn't to say that there wasn't more going on than just an inexperienced team being unable to teach and protect these new quarterbacks; there were certainly other factors.  And this isn't to say that Tebow won't thrive in the NFL, or that he won't thrive with the Jaguars.  It's all speculation from me at this point, but I just think that the Jags don't have the coaches or the talent for Tebow to grow as a player, and if he does by some slim chance get to start over Garrard within his first or even second year, he will likely be injured.
Title: Re: What Will Tim Tebow Do Next?
Post by: Kaos on February 01, 2010, 11:59:45 PM
Can I just say that while your points may be valid, your paragraphs are long.  My eyes can't decipher that. 

Two sentences per paragraph.  Then break. 

That I can read. 

Yes, pots and kettles are both black.  What's your point? 
Title: Re: What Will Tim Tebow Do Next?
Post by: Vandy Vol on February 02, 2010, 12:07:19 AM
I didn't realize the three to four sentence per paragraph structure was that difficult.  I'll contact a publisher and get to work on the Dr. Seuss version, complete with vibrant, child-friendly illustrations, so that you may partake in the intricate discussions of grown-up land.

There, that paragraph was two sentences.  Is that okay, or was intricate too complex of a word?

XOXO,

The Newest Asshole
Title: Re: What Will Tim Tebow Do Next?
Post by: DnATL on February 02, 2010, 12:15:10 AM
Two sentences per paragraph.  Then break. 

I get it - Kaos is a play on your name - Kevin Scarbinsky, right?

Actually, Scarbinsky would scoff at your extra sentence per paragraph.

(Then hit /cr and start a new paragraph)
Title: Re: What Will Tim Tebow Do Next?
Post by: DnATL on February 02, 2010, 12:16:22 AM
The Newest Asshole
AWK loves the smell of new asshole in the morning (anytime of day, really)
Title: Re: What Will Tim Tebow Do Next?
Post by: Kaos on February 02, 2010, 12:20:02 AM
I didn't realize the three to four sentence per paragraph structure was that difficult.  I'll contact a publisher and get to work on the Dr. Seuss version, complete with vibrant, child-friendly illustrations, so that you may partake in the intricate discussions of grown-up land.

There, that paragraph was two sentences.  Is that okay, or was intricate too complex of a word?

XOXO,

The Newest Asshole

I have no ground on which to stand, as I often fire off sentences that contain several hundred words. 

I can do without the illustrations, particularly if they feature cats.  The only good cat is the cat that isn't within 100 yards of my house. 
Title: Re: What Will Tim Tebow Do Next?
Post by: Kaos on February 02, 2010, 12:23:43 AM
I get it - Kaos is a play on your name - Kevin Scarbinsky, right?

Actually, Scarbinsky would scoff at your extra sentence per paragraph.

(Then hit /cr and start a new paragraph)

In defense of the Scarb, that's what writing for the web has been reduced to.   Web editors are instructed to break all content down into one or two sentences with a break between.  They prefer single-sentence entries. 

The concept is that larger word blocks are difficult to read on the web (and they have a point) but also that long paragraphs (and this is nearly verbatim from an editor I argued with) "tend to intimidate the typical reader." 

I made the same arguments conflicted asshole did with the Dr. Seuss version, but I think I actually called it the "Dick and Jane" version, thus showing my age. 

Was I the last generation to read about young Dick and his gal pal Jane? 
Title: Re: What Will Tim Tebow Do Next?
Post by: djsimp on February 02, 2010, 12:27:19 AM
Was I the last generation to read about young tool and his gal pal Jane? 

Maybe but Drill Instructors commonly used Jane as the identity of ALL female counterparts of the GI's. They make damn sure that you understand that they are getting some stange while you are serving your country.
Title: Re: What Will Tim Tebow Do Next?
Post by: Kaos on February 02, 2010, 12:29:46 AM
Maybe but Drill Instructors commonly used Jane as the identity of ALL female counterparts of the GI's. They make damn sure that you understand that they are getting some stange while you are serving your country.

Different Jane.  The one you're talking about is Mary Jane.  Mary Jane Rottencrotch. 
Title: Re: What Will Tim Tebow Do Next?
Post by: DnATL on February 02, 2010, 12:31:24 AM
Was I the last generation to read about young Dick
I'm pretty sure that is frowned upon these days...........
(http://www.pedobearpics.com/pedobear/Pedobearbusted.jpg) (http://www.pedobearpics.com)
Title: Re: What Will Tim Tebow Do Next?
Post by: djsimp on February 02, 2010, 12:31:58 AM
Mary Jane Rottencrotch. 

Thats her.
Title: Re: What Will Tim Tebow Do Next?
Post by: Vandy Vol on February 02, 2010, 12:33:29 AM
Was I the last generation to read about young Dick and his gal pal Jane? 

I saw that on Skinemax last night.
Title: Re: What Will Tim Tebow Do Next?
Post by: djsimp on February 02, 2010, 12:39:02 AM
I saw that on Skinemax last night.

G.I. Jane?
Title: Re: What Will Tim Tebow Do Next?
Post by: Vandy Vol on February 02, 2010, 12:42:37 AM
G.I. Jane?

No.  Aside from Skinemax porn, the only movies I watch at night are A Knight's Tale, The Notebook and Full Metal Jacket.
Title: Re: What Will Tim Tebow Do Next?
Post by: djsimp on February 02, 2010, 12:50:19 AM
The Notebook and Full Metal Jacket.

Thats a bit of an oxymoron dont you think?
Title: Re: What Will Tim Tebow Do Next?
Post by: Jumbo on February 02, 2010, 12:50:34 AM
David Garrard frequently rushes the ball.  Byron Leftwich did so with some consistency, but not as much as Garrard, and Mark Brunell certainly wasn't what I would call a rushing quarterback.  I honestly don't know anything about the offensive coordinator, but their current offense seems to be based around a mobile quarterback.  This isn't to say that the Jaguars are definitely going to use Tebow as another rushing threat, but the team has seemed to operate that way for the past few seasons.

If they attempt to take Tebow out of his element, as well as take the team out of its element by adjusting to a more pass-friendly offensive scheme, then they may still run the risk of injuring him due to inexperience/discomfort with the offensive scheme/whatever you want to call it.  Once you've had a rushing quarterback for a few years, you get into a rhythm with that style of play.  Even if we assume that Tebow won't be rushing, those 42 sacks that Garrard took still suggest to me that, regardless of the scheme, he's going to be in danger of getting nailed by experienced professional athletes.

Of course, all of this assumes that he even goes to Jacksonville and gets to start over Garrard.  Given enough time to adjust to the pros as a backup can advance his career, but I honestly don't see him growing as a player at Jacksonville if they don't turn things around quickly.  Art Schlicter, Gino Torretta, Andre Ware, Carson Palmer and Jason White are just a few college quarterbacks whose starting careers ended (or were delayed) due mainly to (in my opinion) playing for sub-par teams that couldn't give them the opportunity to play with and learn from quality athletes and, in many instances, couldn't protect them from quality defensive athletes.

This isn't to say that there wasn't more going on than just an inexperienced team being unable to teach and protect these new quarterbacks; there were certainly other factors.  And this isn't to say that Tebow won't thrive in the NFL, or that he won't thrive with the Jaguars.  It's all speculation from me at this point, but I just think that the Jags don't have the coaches or the talent for Tebow to grow as a player, and if he does by some slim chance get to start over Garrard within his first or even second year, he will likely be injured.
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Title: Re: What Will Tim Tebow Do Next?
Post by: AWK on February 02, 2010, 09:59:22 AM
AWK loves the smell of new asshole in the morning (anytime of day, really)
Similar to a springtime dew, or what not.
Title: Re: What Will Tim Tebow Do Next?
Post by: jadennis on February 02, 2010, 10:11:44 AM
Like I said in another thread, no GM in their right mind is going to draft Tebow for ticket sales.  It's a dead end situation if that's the reason.  Either you draft him, people buy tickets, then get pissed when you don't play him, or you play him, he sucks, and people get pissed that you drafted him (and that they paid to watch it).

I suppose Jacksonville could be the one team just desperate enough to try it though.  They didn't even sell out for game #16 a couple years back when it was a "win and you're in" game for making the playoffs.  If they don't even care to show up for a make-it-or-break-it game, and it gets blacked out on TV in your own market....that's sad.

So maybe that's why they're giving Tebow a look...he may be the only thing that keeps the Jags in Jacksonville for another 5+ years.
Title: Re: What Will Tim Tebow Do Next?
Post by: Vandy Vol on February 02, 2010, 10:22:36 AM
That's why I feel that Jacksonville, if they draft him, will be playing him sooner than not.  Garrard is not a horrible quarterback, and he certainly has more experience at the professional level than Tebow will, but they're in such a shitty situation that they just might be looking for a savior.  And we all know that Tebow = Christ; at least that's the impression I got from Lee Corso's raging hard-on whenever he talked about him.
Title: Re: What Will Tim Tebow Do Next?
Post by: AWK on February 02, 2010, 10:27:34 AM
Similar to South Carolina, Jacksonville has no offensive line.  This is their problem, not a lack of Jesus..
Title: Re: What Will Tim Tebow Do Next?
Post by: Godfather on February 02, 2010, 12:27:36 PM
If he worked on his hands skills, he probably would make a pretty good TE.
Title: Re: What Will Tim Tebow Do Next?
Post by: Vandy Vol on February 02, 2010, 02:34:40 PM
Similar to South Carolina, Jacksonville has no offensive line.  This is their problem, not a lack of Jesus..

I'm relatively certain that Jesus could manhandle a defensive line without the assistance of anyone else; the Red Sea didn't pose a problem for Moses and he wasn't even the Messiah.
Title: Re: What Will Tim Tebow Do Next?
Post by: Mr. Sensible on February 02, 2010, 02:57:53 PM
Similar to South Carolina, Jacksonville has no offensive line.  This is their problem, not a lack of Jesus..

I bet you think He can't hit a curve ball too, Jobu.
Title: Re: What Will Tim Tebow Do Next?
Post by: AUTiger1 on February 02, 2010, 03:17:56 PM
I bet you think He can't hit a curve ball too, Jobu.

Why the name change?