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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Kaos on January 14, 2010, 10:40:45 AM
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Cowherd is just another USC douche at ESPN.
"Kiffin traded up. Just get over it "
If the situation were reversed and kiff had left USC in the same manner? The pissing and moaning would be extreme. He's a blatant USC homer. And don't get me started on Shelly Smitb. Her face is always red because she is grinding out multiples to photos of Carroll.
I want our own pet reporter.
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I want our own pet reporter.
Evan Woodbury is already in that position courtesy of the REC.
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Wow.
This douche just defended Orgeron by claiming every coach in the SEC started calling Tulane players the day after Katrina hit.
The bullshit astounds me. What's worse is that so many just blindly accept this kind of nonsense at face value.
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WTF?
Like we would call Tulane players.
LSU player probably, but Tulane?
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Cowherd is just another USC douche at ESPN.
"Kiffin traded up. Just get over it "
If the situation were reversed and kiff had left USC in the same manner? The pissing and moaning would be extreme. He's a blatant USC homer. And don't get me started on Shelly Smitb. Her face is always red because she is grinding out multiples to photos of Carroll.
I want our own pet reporter.
Cowherd is a USC homer, no question. I've even heard him half-heartedly admit it. But....was he wrong? Didn't Kiffin trade up? Even if just by a little....didn't he take over a program that is historically in front of Tennessee, and in more recent history light years in front of Tennessee? I'm sure he's making more money too. And he's in LA, not Knoxville (which for him, and a lot of people, is an upgrade).
I can't stand the Cowherd homerism with USC, but I don't see him as being wrong here.
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Cowherd is just another USC douche at ESPN.
"Kiffin traded up. Just get over it "
If the situation were reversed and kiff had left USC in the same manner? The pissing and moaning would be extreme. He's a blatant USC homer. And don't get me started on Shelly Smitb. Her face is always red because she is grinding out multiples to photos of Carroll.
I want our own pet reporter.
In reality, Kiffin did trade up, if you're Kiffin. USC is a better gig than Tennessee. However, when we're talking about Lane Kiffin, that kind of fucks everything up. Tennessee fans don't realize it yet, but he just did them a huge favor in the long run. I think the ADs at BOTH schools should be shitcanned. Both of them for hiring Kiffin in the first place.
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Wow.
This douche just defended Orgeron by claiming every coach in the SEC started calling Tulane players the day after Katrina hit.
The bullpoop astounds me. What's worse is that so many just blindly accept this kind of nonsense at face value.
Yeah, that's bad. There is no excuse for Orgeron. Not to mention he was wrong and stupid in what he told the kids. It doesn't matter if they went to class or not. If they were registered for class on the first day, they are Tennessee students at that time, even if all that's heard in class is "Bueller, Bueller, Bueller".
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Tennessee fans don't realize it yet, but he just did them a huge favor in the long run.
It pains me to admit this but I agree with you here. This was a blessing in the disguise of a few mattress fires.
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Kiffin will be on the Cowherd show today.
That'll be a slurp fest for sure.
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Kiffin will be on the Cowherd show today.
That'll be a slurp fest for sure.
No doubt. Cowherd will be lobbing softballs.
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According to Cowherd, the following people are in the same boat.
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It pains me to admit this but I agree with you here. This was a blessing in the disguise of a few mattress fires.
I think deep down inside, they knew he was a fuckup, but still defended him. Really, that is probably where all of the anger comes from right now. But when they get over that, they will realize that this is a blessing in disguise.
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Cowherd is a USC homer, no question. I've even heard him half-heartedly admit it. But....was he wrong? Didn't Kiffin trade up? Even if just by a little....didn't he take over a program that is historically in front of Tennessee, and in more recent history light years in front of Tennessee? I'm sure he's making more money too. And he's in LA, not Knoxville (which for him, and a lot of people, is an upgrade).
I can't stand the Cowherd homerism with USC, but I don't see him as being wrong here.
Not the trade up comment so much as the flippant "You're Tennessee, you stupid fucks. Get over it."
And for the record? Tennessee has just as many national titles in the last 20 years as USC.
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I think deep down inside, they knew he was a fuckup, but still defended him. Really, that is probably where all of the anger comes from right now. But when they get over that, they will realize that this is a blessing in disguise.
Yeah, Shelly "I just rubbed one out to a magazine photo of Pete Carroll and flossed my snatch with a strand of his silver hair" Smith ridiculed the hillbilly Tennessee reaction in comparison to the love-fest at USC.
"He left Tennessee with an unruly mob burning mattresses, cursing him and shouting out his wife's cell phone number (why didn't I get that?) and arrives here with the adoring players chanting "We are SC! It's a big change for the Kiffins."
Stupid mommy part (sorry TW).
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Not the trade up comment so much as the flippant "You're Tennessee, you stupid phuks. Get over it."
And for the record? Tennessee has just as many national titles in the last 20 years as USC.
Yeah, I agree with that...there is no reason to try to insult and minimize Tennessee, as if they are Clemson, in order to make the point about USC being the better job right now. The opposite argument would have been valid all through the 90s.
As for titles, USC does have 1 BCS and 1 AP. Also, now you sound kind of like him....USC is in the title picture every year....even if it's just until they blow a game to UCLA, Stanford, or Oregon State....they are in the picture. It's practically theirs to lose.
Tennessee hasn't been able to say that in quite a while.
Since 2000:
USC - 102-26, 7 Top 5 finishes.
Tenn - 83-44, 1 Top 5 finish...no other Top 10 finishes.
You know what I meant by "recent history".
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As much as I hate to admit it, USC is the team of the decade with a record of 102-26, 6-1 in major bowls and 2 national titles.
Florida 100-30 4-1 in major bowls, 1-4 in others and 2 titles.
LSU 99-31, 4-0, 3-3, 2 titles.
Ohio State 102-25 4-3,1-2, 1 title.
Oklahoma 110-24, 2-5, 2-1 1 title.
Texas 110-19, 3-1, 4-2
Miami 92-33, 3-1, 2-3 1 title.
Georgia
Oregon
FSU
Va Tech
Alabama 89-50 1 title
Oregon St.
Michigan
Auburn 88-39 1-0, 5-3
Notre Dame
Tennessee
Ga Tech
UCLA
Cal
Penn St.
Iowa
Wisconsin
W. Virginia
Boston Col.
also Boise St. 112-17, 3-4 other bowls
These numbers are from the College Football Data Warehouse and converted by a renowned numbers genius who blogs on The Sporting News site, a defense atty, going by George_Tirebiter. He converted the top teams and I didn't have proper time in one sitting to pick the formula nor to tabulate. Very good site for stats though. He would know.
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Something there doesn't compute.
Alabama has one more win but 11 more losses over the same span?
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Conference Championship games , BCS Title game and all bowl games.
2000- 2009 3-8,7-5,10-3,4-9,6-6,10-2,6-7,7-6,12-2,14-0 for Alabama
9-4,7-5,9-4,8-5,13-0,9-3,11-2,9-4,5-7,8-5 for Auburn
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Conference Championship games , BCS Title game and all bowl games.
2000- 2009 3-8,7-5,10-3,4-9,6-6,10-2,6-7,7-6,12-2,14-0 for Alabama
9-4,7-5,9-4,8-5,13-0,9-3,11-2,9-4,5-7,8-5 for Auburn
Still doesn't add up.
Alabama only has 79 wins, not 89.
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Alabama was 79-48 for the decade, which is pretty amazing considering they were 53-46 through the first 8 years.
Jmar, you also left off Texas' 1 national title, which makes for 11 titles in the decade, but that's because of the LSU/USC split in 2003. Maybe those two teams have 1.5 national titles in the decade.
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Kiffin is on The Herd right now, and just said that he left UT in better shape than he found it, roster-wise, and discipline-wise. :blink:
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Kiffin is on The Herd right now, and just said that he left UT in better shape than he found it, roster-wise, and discipline-wise. :blink:
Well, he did kick off that one guy...
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Interesting list.
Oregon was 87-38 for the decade, finished in the top 10 three times, top 15 five times, and finished ranked 6 times.
They were 4-5 in bowls. I'm wondering why they were ranked so high in this list (#9)?
Auburn was #15 with a 88-39 record, finished in the top 10 two times, top 15 five times, and finished ranked 6 times.
But Auburn was 5-3 in bowls.
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Kiffin is on The Herd right now, and just said that he left UT in better shape than he found it, roster-wise, and discipline-wise. :blink:
He said all of that in his presser last night. Said they only had 1 arrest, the team GPA was the highest EVER, and his first recruiting class brought in more bluechips than Tennessee had when he arrived. Also said the only reason the fans were pissed and running after him was because he and his coaching staff had improved the University so much in 14 months that they didn't want him to leave.
He said that shit without cracking a smile....because he fucking believes it.
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How many of USC's MNCs came against a southern opponent? The closest they got was Texas, and lost?
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That error is my own. Tirebiter didn't break down but the top 10. It is a computer model that awards extra for titles, strength of schedule and then overall by winning percentage. Sorry guys, I'm not a stats guru, just found it interesting is all. The SN site is sterile and stuffy but there are some stong elements to it as well and Tirebiter is seen as the go to guy for college football. knightswhosay is another stats guy, LSU grad and atty also. Like our jadennis, it's hard to argue with them. I'm thinking of joining the Ed Orgeron fan club because New Braunfels sold me on the guy, a wonderful human being and Lane Kiffin enforcer.
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He said that shit without cracking a smile....because he fucking believes it.
I think this is what confuses me most about Kiffin. On a serious level, something is wrong with him. I literally think he is fucked up in the head. If it wasn't for dear old dad, I don't think he would be a head coach. I remember a few times during the season when something was going on, his dad would be talking to the refs or something and he would stand 10 yards away just staring off into space. When they had the headset malfunction in Tuscaloosa, Monte was dealing with the refs and everything, and Lane was just standing somewhere else with that Shula look.
Kiffin just went from the pot to the frying pan, and he's too stupid to even realize it. How do you think it will look to the NCAA Infractions Committee when USC goes before them in February? I mean, what is USC going to say? "Yeah, we're making a commitment to running a clean program, so we've hired Lane Kiffin." If anything, Kiffin has probably guaranteed USC at least 3 more years of NCAA problems down the road.
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But....was he wrong? Didn't Kiffin trade up? Even if just by a little....didn't he take over a program that is historically in front of Tennessee,
wrong......UT is ahead of USC in all time wins........and the stadium is larger and the support/fan base probably about equal. UT draws from a quite large geographical base.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Division_I_football_win-loss_records (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Division_I_football_win-loss_records)
And in my opinion, UT's bowl history is a bit more impressive despite USC's 31-15 record.....USC has spent most of their time playing, essentially a home game in the Rose Bowl, with no appearances in the Sugar or Cotton and only two Orange bowl appearances. UT has been to all the big ones, multiple times.
And USC has had down times also.......check the 80's and 90's.
Granted for Kiffen, he is probably more comfortable in LA.....but the programs are essentially equal and I would give the nod to UT over-all based upon conference affiliation. (ie check how many PAC-10 teams are on the all time win list, then check the SEC. Plus losing to ND does not knock one out of the Rose Bowl......losing to uat/AU/UF knocks one out of the Sugar AND the MNC picture)
In the overall scope of college football history.....it is a lateral move......
WAR EAGLE
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I think this is what confuses me most about Kiffin. On a serious level, something is wrong with him. I literally think he is fucked up in the head. If it wasn't for dear old dad, I don't think he would be a head coach. I remember a few times during the season when something was going on, his dad would be talking to the refs or something and he would stand 10 yards away just staring off into space. When they had the headset malfunction in Tuscaloosa, Monte was dealing with the refs and everything, and Lane was just standing somewhere else with that Shula look.
Kiffin just went from the pot to the frying pan, and he's too stupid to even realize it.
Two words Mike Shula
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Two words Mike Shula
I understand that, but hell, Kiffin was already a coach somewhere, and it wasn't a horrible gig in the first place. And to boot, Kiffin has already shown his colors. When Alabama hired Shula, at least you could argue that there was potential there. My point is, they could have hired a better Shula.
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I understand that, but hell, Kiffin was already a coach somewhere, and it wasn't a horrible gig in the first place. And to boot, Kiffin has already shown his colors. When Alabama hired Shula, at least you could argue that there was potential there. My point is, they could have hired a better Shula.
Honestly, the next coach they hire probably is their Shula. The SEC is one and half teams for the next few years.
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Alabama was 79-48 for the decade, which is pretty amazing considering they were 53-46 through the first 8 years.
Jmar, you also left off Texas' 1 national title, which makes for 11 titles in the decade, but that's because of the LSU/USC split in 2003. Maybe those two teams have 1.5 national titles in the decade.
I rest my case! He's right, I'm seasick from bouncing around in the back of a tractor trailer, but he is spot on.
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wrong......UT is ahead of USC in all time wins........and the stadium is larger and the support/fan base probably about equal. UT draws from a quite large geographical base.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Division_I_football_win-loss_records (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Division_I_football_win-loss_records)
And in my opinion, UT's bowl history is a bit more impressive despite USC's 31-15 record.....USC has spent most of their time playing, essentially a home game in the Rose Bowl, with no appearances in the Sugar or Cotton and only two Orange bowl appearances. UT has been to all the big ones, multiple times.
And USC has had down times also.......check the 80's and 90's.
Granted for Kiffen, he is probably more comfortable in LA.....but the programs are essentially equal and I would give the nod to UT over-all based upon conference affiliation.
In the overall scope of college football history.....it is a lateral move......
WAR EAGLE
The only way I see it being a step up is that USC is the "hotter" program right now, with a lot more media coverage. USC is talked about by the talking heads on ESPN, FSN, CNNSI a lot more than UT. On a personal level, or at least what I think, taking my "dream job" (no matter how similar and even for a little less $$$) would make it a step up in my own mind. Of course, who knows what in the hell Kiffin is thinking.
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The only way I see it being a step up is that USC is the "hotter" program right now, with a lot more media coverage. USC is talked about by the talking heads on ESPN, FSN, CNNSI a lot more than UT. On a personal level, or ate least what I think, taking my "dream job" (no matter how similar and even for a little less $$$) would make it a step up in my own mind. Of course, who knows what in the hell Kiffin is thinking.
have no problem with "hotter" right now, I would agree (well until the NCAA castrates them)......but I do have a problem with better historically (which is the only part of jd's post that I quoted)
And I agree that it is a step up FOR Kiffen.....but lateral for just about any other college HC out there
WAR EAGLE.
ps: and Cowpoop is a douche of the First Order.....how in the hell there are enough dumbasses in the world that that guy can get and keep a job is beyond me.......a total moron.
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ps: and Cowpoop is a douche of the First Order.....how in the hell there are enough dumbasses in the world that that guy can get and keep a job is beyond me.......a total moron.
That all may be true, but he's the highest rated thing they have from what I've read. That's why they keep extending his deal and putting him on TV. He moves the needle.
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The sight I listed above has Michigan as the all time leader in wins.
Southern California is in the constant spotlight, the Big Gig. I'm here now. It's foreign for most I understand.
You get noticed here for wearing different socks by the media.
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wrong......UT is ahead of USC in all time wins........and the stadium is larger and the support/fan base probably about equal. UT draws from a quite large geographical base.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Division_I_football_win-loss_records (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Division_I_football_win-loss_records)
And in my opinion, UT's bowl history is a bit more impressive despite USC's 31-15 record.....USC has spent most of their time playing, essentially a home game in the Rose Bowl, with no appearances in the Sugar or Cotton and only two Orange bowl appearances. UT has been to all the big ones, multiple times.
And USC has had down times also.......check the 80's and 90's.
Granted for Kiffen, he is probably more comfortable in LA.....but the programs are essentially equal and I would give the nod to UT over-all based upon conference affiliation. (ie check how many PAC-10 teams are on the all time win list, then check the SEC. Plus losing to ND does not knock one out of the Rose Bowl......losing to uat/AU/UF knocks one out of the Sugar AND the MNC picture)
In the overall scope of college football history.....it is a lateral move......
WAR EAGLE
I should have emphasized the last decade more as far as being a better job. And the conference affiliation is kind of a tricky thing....sure the SEC is the best, but that only means winning here is harder. I would think the better "job" is having one of the historically top programs, but having it in a place where it's easier to win right now.
As for historical comparison....they are pretty close, but USC has the higher winning % (not by much, just as Tennessee has a few more actual wins).
But USC also has 10 recognized national titles, 5 in the AP poll.
Tennessee has 4 recognized national titles, 2 in the AP poll.
USC has appeared in 689 AP polls, the 4th most all-time.
Tennessee has appeared in 564 AP polls, 10th all-time. (Auburn is 13th with 480).
USC has appeared in the Top 5 of the AP poll 273 times, 5th all-time.
Tennessee has appeared in the Top 5 of the AP poll 122 times, 13th all-time. (Auburn is 15th all-time with 107).
USC has spent 90 weeks at #1, which is 4th all-time.
Tennessee has spent 18 weeks at #1, which is 18th all-time.
USC is 32-16 in bowls (48 total).
Tennessee is 25-23 in bowls (48 total).
To me, an SEC fan, I view them as pretty damn close, because, like you said, consider who they've played, conference affiliation, bowl opponents, support, etc. But even so, historically, and definitely now (which I know you weren't disagreeing with), I still think USC is just slightly ahead.
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Well surely many of us think that Auburn is better than most jobs, but the perception among the rest of the country is different. USC players rub elbows with celebs occaisonally, there are the Lakers, Dodgers et al. Only New York compares.
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How in the hell can Tennessee to USC be a lateral move? Fuck all of this technicality. In the past decade, USC has absolutely been a powerhouse, and a media darling. It recruits itself. How are you seriously going to compare living in Knoxville to living in LA? I can't think of one thing at all that makes UT a better vehicle than USC, or makes them even. Its all about what have you done for me lately. USC has won two NCs in the past 9 years. They are consistantly in the national spotlight, year after year. Kiffin upgraded in every way, shape, or form.
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No argument here!
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How in the hell can Tennessee to USC be a lateral move? phuk all of this technicality. In the past decade, USC has absolutely been a powerhouse, and a media darling. It recruits itself. How are you seriously going to compare living in Knoxville to living in LA? I can't think of one thing at all that makes UT a better vehicle than USC, or makes them even. Its all about what have you done for me lately. USC has won two NCs in the past 9 years. They are consistantly in the national spotlight, year after year. Kiffin upgraded in every way, shape, or form.
EA was talking strictly on paper, historically. I don't think most would argue anything you just wrote as far as current power and perception.
And I completely agree too, which is why, as much as a doofus as Kiffin is, I can't honestly say I blame him for leaving Tennessee after one year in order to take over one of the three best jobs going right now (USC, Texas, Florida). I don't think there is much of a debate on that.
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EA was talking strictly on paper, historically. I don't think most would argue anything you just wrote as far as current power and perception.
And I completely agree too, which is why, as much as a doofus as Kiffin is, I can't honestly say I blame him for leaving Tennessee after one year in order to take over one of the three best jobs going right now (USC, Texas, Florida). I don't think there is much of a debate on that.
If the NCAA weren't bearing down on USC as they are right now, I could totally agree here. I agree with you in principle that yes, USC is from top to bottom a better program to coach at in a normal world. Right now, the NCAA is looking at them both. That kind of balances things a little, but I would rather be in Cali than Tennessee. It would be easier for USC to recover from any kind of sanctions as well.
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And Alabama. If Saban leaves now they win 20 over two seasons with Mike Shula.
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That all may be true, but he's the highest rated thing they have from what I've read. That's why they keep extending his deal and putting him on TV. He moves the needle.
thus my comment on the unbelievable number of gullible dumbasses in the world today.
WAR EAGLE
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Maybe Simon Cowell headed up the USC search.
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If the NCAA weren't bearing down on USC as they are right now, I could totally agree here.
You just keep throwing rocks from your glass house.
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And who says the deal wasn't done knowing beforehand that any infractions might be softened or many ignored altogether. This thing is becoming an invention of the corporate forces. USC under investigation still makes Kiffen a perceived rock star.
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And who says the deal wasn't done knowing beforehand that any infractions might be softened or many ignored altogether. This thing is becoming an invention of the corporate forces. USC under investigation still makes Kiffen a perceived rock star.
Shelly "I just pulled a Pete Carroll bobblehead doll out of my dripping red snatch" Smith said the NCAA stuff was nothing and that if there really was anything, USC was so virtuous they would have shut down the football program. So there's nothing there. Nothing to see. Just a big bunch of silliness. Then she stuck the Pete bobble in her mouth and licked off the juices.
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I never said it was silliness, just that things can be lost or ignored.with a purpose. WWNN!
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USC has won two NCs in the past 9 years. They are consistantly in the national spotlight, year after year.
So what you're saying is Saban has never won a MNC until this year?
I know I'm the minority opinion, but USC is over-fucking-rated. They, like Auburn from 04-08 have been on the decline since that same period. Although not as magnified due to the level of competition.
2004 - 13-0 MNC
2005 - 12-1 #2
2006 - 11-2 #4
2007 - 11-2 #3 (including a loss to Stanford)
2008 - 12-1 loss to Oregon State (slight improvement)
2009 - 9-4 (with embarassing losses to Washington, Stanford again, and Arizona)
They're on their way down, in my opinion, without the NCAA's involvement. Almost certainly when you factor that in.
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The overall landscape of college football has changed to the point that no one team will dominate an entire decade. All of the mighty will fall. We just get the added pleasure of watching the NCAA help USC fall a little harder.
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The overall landscape of college football has changed to the point that no one team will dominate an entire decade. All of the mighty will fall. We just get the added pleasure of watching the NCAA help USC fall a little harder.
Or cushion the blow aided by ESPN and other forces in a dark room.
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So what you're saying is Saban has never won a MNC until this year?
I know I'm the minority opinion, but USC is over-phuking-rated. They, like Auburn from 04-08 have been on the decline since that same period. Although not as magnified due to the level of competition.
2004 - 13-0 MNC
2005 - 12-1 #2
2006 - 11-2 #4
2007 - 11-2 #3 (including a loss to Stanford)
2008 - 12-1 loss to Oregon State (slight improvement)
2009 - 9-4 (with embarassing losses to Washington, Stanford again, and Arizona)
They're on their way down, in my opinion, without the NCAA's involvement. Almost certainly when you factor that in.
Without getting into the overrated aspect, I don't know that this year was a sign that they were so "down" as much as it was a sign that they just got hit with too many things at one time.
Last years defense has 9, literally 9 players on NFL rosters this year, several of which start in the NFL. They also had their QB (Sanchez) leave a year earlier than expected, which left them with starting a freshman. On top of that, they lost their offensive coordinator, who also took their defensive coordinator with him. So they lost an entire defense, their QB, and both coordinators.
That's just too much for one year no matter who you are. Oklahoma lost their QB and their tight end and they went 7-6. Imagine if McCoy had left Texas, 10 defensive starters form last year left, Greg Davis retired, and Will Muschamp took another job. I'm not sure Texas could have gone 9-4 after all that.
We'll never really know now that Carroll is gone, but judging by their recruiting, I would say they would have bounced back next year...at least back to the 11-2 range. And by the time Barkley is a junior and senior, they could have been back in the 13-0 or 12-1 range.
And don't lose sight of how nit picky it is to say they were slipping because they were losing 2 games per year. From 2003 t0 2004 they had extremely uncommon talent and went 37-2 over those three years. But the next three years they were 34-5....so yeah, a little drop, but from 2 losses in 3 years to 5 losses in 3 years...that is still the best record during that time, just slightly less dominant. I'm not sure I would call that "slipping" really.
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Glad you are taking the minority viewpoint. The perception and opinion which is mostly what we have is that USC was rebuilding. Everyone likes to take shots at them. They thrive on it. But you have to give them credit, and even when they drop a couple, the perception is they are the ones to beat. With Kiffen USC will just be easier to despise.
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And don't lose sight of how nit picky it is to say they were slipping because they were losing 2 games per year. From 2003 t0 2004 they had extremely uncommon talent and went 37-2 over those three years. But the next three years they were 34-5....so yeah, a little drop, but from 2 losses in 3 years to 5 losses in 3 years...that is still the best record during that time, just slightly less dominant. I'm not sure I would call that "slipping" really.
I maintain that playing in the Weak 10, if you're as great a team as they're billed as, you run the table every year. You never lose to Washington, or Stanford, etc. You only should have to get up for maybe 2 or 3 big games a year. Oregon was the only team of worth they played this year, and they got their assholes blown out. They squeaked by Ohio State, but they turned out to be a shit sandwich of a team. Notre Dame has been terrible for a while now too, and in the season that they finally said enough is enough with Weis, they barely squeaked past them as well.
They would be a mid-tier SEC team. Yeah, they were badass in the years we played them, and we were...not so much. But put them in the SEC these last 4 years, and they go 7-5, 8-4ish average.
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Cowherd just said if USC gets a postseason or TV ban for any amount of time, he's cutting the college football talk in half on his show.
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Cowherd: "The NCAA needs other schools more than other schools. You get that, right?"
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Cowherd: "The NCAA needs other schools more than other schools. You get that, right?"
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You know, people always say stuff like that..."college football is better when Notre Dame (Ohio State, Nebraska, Miami, etc) is good".
I say that's BS. I mean, sure, if all the traditional powers sucked, that would hurt the game, but just because Notre Dame or USC or Texas or Michigan are down, it doesn't slow down the machine. College football has been at a peak in the last 10 years. During that time, (overall) Notre Dame has been down, Nebraska has been down, FSU has been mediocre, Miami has been up and down, Michigan has been down the last few years, Washington, once a national player, has all but disappeared.
But only their fans miss them. The rest of us have plenty of good, historical match ups to enjoy. So what if Oklahoma vs Nebraska isn't the game of the century. There is still Oklahoma vs Texas. So what if Ohio State vs Michigan wasn't #1 vs #2 the last couple years. Ohio State still played Penn State and USC. Even when Alabama disappeared...Auburn vs LSU took the spot light and hosted College Gameday a couple times.
If USC disappeared for the next few years....who gives a poop other than USC fans? Oregon will take over for the Pac 10, and teams like Stanford, Oregon State, and Cal will continue to stay relevant.
It reminds me of something else....if Cowherd's show disappeared tomorrow...no one would give a poop about that either.
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It reminds me of something else....if Cowherd's show disappeared tomorrow...no one would give a poop about that either.
THIS....
Although that hottie on his TV show is enjoyable to watch. Michelle Beadle I think is her name. Whew doggie....
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THIS....
Although that hottie on his TV show is enjoyable to watch. Michelle Beadle I think is her name. Whew doggie....
I want to do naughty things to her pink parts.