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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: jadennis on January 13, 2010, 10:34:25 AM
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Do they go after ....Lil' Kiffin?
I wouldn't mind seeing Kiffin out of the SEC.
Since I thought USC would go after Kiffin, you're probably thinking I also know who will be the next Tennessee coach...well I don't...but the skreets are littered with rumors....
#1 on the list is apparently Muschamp, and they (ESPN) say Tennessee is willing to pay big money.
#2 could be John Gruden....I just read that he was an assistant there under Johnny Majors and that his wife was a Tennessee cheerleader, so you never know.
#3 could be David Cutcliffe. Personally I think he would be a good hire.
Beyond those guys, it's the usual list...Gary Patterson, Houston Nutt (yeah right), Troy Calhoun, Randy Edsal, etc.
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Dan Mullen
just kidding
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I hadn't thought about Cutcliffe until your post. That would be a home run hire for them, especially in this situation.
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I hadn't thought about Cutcliffe until your post. That would be a home run hire for them, especially in this situation.
Cutcliffe would be a strikeout. A whiff. It would be the failiest of fails.
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Cutcliffe would be a strikeout. A whiff. It would be the failiest of fails.
He's a favorite son there, and really has done a bang up job at Duke. If he hired a decent DC, he could end up with a better overall record at UT than Fulmer had.
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He's a favorite son there, and really has done a bang up job at Duke. If he hired a decent DC, he could end up with a better overall record at UT than Fulmer had.
Don't disagree that he could work out okay. He did a good job at Ole Miss, too.
But in perception terms?
They hired boy wonder and put him on a pedestal. Gave him a cape and a mask. They stood solidly behind him when he made mistakes and justified his every gaffe. Well he took his super suit and left their little city.
If Kiffin is Aquaman or Green Arrow or Nightwing or one of the minor super heroes, Cutcliffe is droopy schloopy Underdog. He's Perry the platypus.
Would it be a good move? Probably. Peyton would likely endorse it. But I just wonder if they'd be willing to take the short-term PR hit that hiring a pedestrian guy like Cutcliffe instead of a flashy splash (which might not work out nearly as well) like Gruden or Muschamp would inevitably bring.
** He was also fired at Ole Miss and replaced by Orgeron who just told Tennessee to fuck off and tried to steal their recruits. So there's that history, too.
It's a fail from a perception standpoint.
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Don't disagree that he could work out okay. He did a good job at Ole Miss, too.
But in perception terms?
They hired boy wonder and put him on a pedestal. Gave him a cape and a mask. They stood solidly behind him when he made mistakes and justified his every gaffe. Well he took his super suit and left their little city.
If Kiffin is Aquaman or Green Arrow or Nightwing or one of the minor super heroes, Cutcliffe is droopy schloopy Underdog. He's Perry the platypus.
Would it be a good move? Probably. Peyton would likely endorse it. But I just wonder if they'd be willing to take the short-term PR hit that hiring a pedestrian guy like Cutcliffe instead of a flashy splash (which might not work out nearly as well) like Gruden or Muschamp would inevitably bring.
It's a fail from a perception standpoint.
Gotcha. Instead of the towering 550 ft moon shot over the center field stands, he would appear more like the 305 squeaker that barely made it over the right field ivy.
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Why not Mike Leach? har har arrrrrggghhh
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Why not Mike Leach? har har arrrrrggghhh
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Gotcha. Instead of the towering 550 ft moon shot over the center field stands, he would appear more like the 305 squeaker that barely made it over the right field ivy.
Or maybe a ground ball that gets legged out to an inside the parker...
Can't imagine anybody who would look at a Cutcliffe hire on day one and think, DAMN that ball's headed outta here! Five years later, though...?
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IMO: Cutcliffe would be a good hire in long run. Agree with Koas, not the splash hire. I don't think Gruden will take the job, he has been rumored for anything from the Skins, ND, USC, L'Ville....etc....etc...etc and has not expressed a real interest in any of them. I think we see him in the booth again next year. Muschamp? I don't know if he is ready yet. Mike Leach? I don't know if they would take him and he does come with baggage. No matter how innocent I think he is and how much of a pussy I think James and his son are.
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Don't disagree that he could work out okay. He did a good job at Ole Miss, too.
But in perception terms?
They hired boy wonder and put him on a pedestal. Gave him a cape and a mask. They stood solidly behind him when he made mistakes and justified his every gaffe. Well he took his super suit and left their little city.
If Kiffin is Aquaman or Green Arrow or Nightwing or one of the minor super heroes, Cutcliffe is droopy schloopy Underdog. He's Perry the platypus.
Would it be a good move? Probably. Peyton would likely endorse it. But I just wonder if they'd be willing to take the short-term PR hit that hiring a pedestrian guy like Cutcliffe instead of a flashy splash (which might not work out nearly as well) like Gruden or Muschamp would inevitably bring.
** He was also fired at Ole Miss and replaced by Orgeron who just told Tennessee to phuk off and tried to steal their recruits. So there's that history, too.
It's a fail from a perception standpoint.
This is a good point, but I also wonder if droopy schloopy Underdog is exactly what they'd want after Aquadouche?
Maybe the "young brazen loud mouth" thing is making everyone want the mature, father-figure type to come in and calmly take over what the wild one left in shambles?
Maybe they had their time rolling in the hay with the girl from the other side of the tracks....maybe now they need someone with manners and class that they can proudly take home to their parents.
Who knows.
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Nutt Miles
I don't think Nutt is going anywhere.
Cutcliffe would have been a strong hire before he got ill. Not now.
I wonder about Muschamp's demeanor as a HC
And Fisher isn't interested?
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How long before somebody says "nick saban"?
How long before somebody says "bobby petrino"
I will say this on record. If they end up with Patterson from TCU? I'm going to punch Jay Jacobs in the face.
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I don't know if it would have had a chance of happening.....but can I just say I'm glad TT already has a job?
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I will say this on record. If they end up with Patterson from TCU? I'm going to punch Jay Jacobs in the face.
I would ask that you wait at least one season to see how things go. If he goes 10-2 or better, then punch Jacobs in the face....repeatedly.
Of course, if we also go 10-2, then Prowler gets to punch you in the face repeatedly.
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How long before somebody says "nick saban"?
How long before somebody says "bobby petrino"
I will say this on record. If they end up with Patterson from TCU? I'm going to punch Jay Jacobs in the face.
No to Saban- lateral, actually longitudinal too much of a rival.
Petrino is like Tubs IMO. Where now? Exactly how far is that? Hmm!
Again, has Fisher been mentioned?
Where are the skreets when you need 'em?
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I don't know if it would have had a chance of happening.....but can I just say I'm glad TT already has a job?
That makes two of us. Any fan of any SEC school, except the school he would potentially go to, should thank their lucky stars that CTT is staying out of the SEC.
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According to ESPN, Phillip Fulmer has been contacted by Tennessee. Talk about having them by the balls. According to Texas' Rivals site, Muschamp turned Tennessee down rather quickly. I can't blame him. No halfway decent coach will go there, especially now that the program has been tainted by Kiffin. Same deal with USC. The NCAA is bearing down on both schools, and nobody with connected brain cells worth a damn would go to either school at this point. It certainly explains Kiffin to USC.
This shit is just flat out epic. Oh, and for your viewing pleasure.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYAsxnRaTAg# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYAsxnRaTAg#)
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I heard that Fulmer rumor last night but woke up to nothing about it this morning and dismissed it.
He is only 59, which means he could go another 7-10 years realistically. Maybe a year off rejuvenated him and he's ready to come back and start over. I know that doesn't usually work out well (John Robinson with USC, Johnny Majors at Pitt....but both went back 10+ years later), but it's only been one year....maybe it could work.
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How long before somebody says "nick saban"?
How long before somebody says "bobby petrino"
I will say this on record. If they end up with Patterson from TCU? I'm going to punch Jay Jacobs in the face.
That would be a huge hire for the Vols no doubt. I hope they do hire him just so I can pics of you keeping you word.
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Don't disagree that he could work out okay. He did a good job at Ole Miss, too.
But in perception terms?
They hired boy wonder and put him on a pedestal. Gave him a cape and a mask. They stood solidly behind him when he made mistakes and justified his every gaffe. Well he took his super suit and left their little city.
If Kiffin is Aquaman or Green Arrow or Nightwing or one of the minor super heroes, Cutcliffe is droopy schloopy Underdog. He's Perry the platypus.
Would it be a good move? Probably. Peyton would likely endorse it. But I just wonder if they'd be willing to take the short-term PR hit that hiring a pedestrian guy like Cutcliffe instead of a flashy splash (which might not work out nearly as well) like Gruden or Muschamp would inevitably bring.
** He was also fired at Ole Miss and replaced by Orgeron who just told Tennessee to phuk off and tried to steal their recruits. So there's that history, too.
It's a fail from a perception standpoint.
I agree. And I would also like to go out on a limb and say that I think Cutcliffe would win more games at UT than Muschamp and Gruden would. I think Gruden is an excellent NFL Coach and CWM an excellent DC, but mainly I just think those 2 are a lot of hype from a College FB HC point of view. But you're right. Perception is everything.
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If I was Tebow, I'd apply
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Hmmmm it seems that fattimus Phillipot has been contacted and the title of AD was what was actually mentioned to him. If they hired David C as coach and then Fat Albert as AD there would a big ole orange inbred orgy in knoxville.
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I would ask that you wait at least one season to see how things go. If he goes 10-2 or better, then punch Jacobs in the face....repeatedly.
Of course, if we also go 10-2, then Prowler gets to punch you in the face repeatedly once.
That'd be it.
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If Cutcliffe (Alabama grad and both Manning mentors) takes the Head Coaching job things might fall into place. Hamilton will have to leave for Fulmer to become AD. I'm not too sure Cutcliffe is up to it although I hope he gets the chance.
Gruden has refused. He is a former asst. at UT He also refused when Fulmer was released.
S. Holtz was thrown in for good measure in a SN article by a not so well known writer.
There really are no new names in the wee hours of the 14th.
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I'm looking at the coaching hot board on the UT Rivals site, and they are fucking crazy. Bob Stoops, Kyle Whittingham, Gary Patterson as targets? There is no telling what kind of NCAA issues are coming down the pipe for UT, and I can only imagine the bodies buried out back.
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I'm looking at the coaching hot board on the UT Rivals site, and they are fucking crazy. Bob Stoops, Kyle Whittingham, Gary Patterson as targets? There is no telling what kind of NCAA issues are coming down the pipe for UT, and I can only imagine the bodies buried out back.
Who besides Saban knows where the bodies are buried around Northport?
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Who besides Saban knows where the bodies are buried around Northport?
Paul Finebaum. He got it in a package.
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Paul Finebaum. He got it in a package.
:bamahomer: I forgot.
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Troy Calhoun would be interesting at UT.
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I'm looking at the coaching hot board on the UT Rivals site, and they are fucking crazy. Bob Stoops, Kyle Whittingham, Gary Patterson as targets? There is no telling what kind of NCAA issues are coming down the pipe for UT, and I can only imagine the bodies buried out back.
Uhhh... glass houses, stones....
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We need an emoticon of Larry Blakney's face called :cuz:
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Uhhh... glass houses, stones....
There isn't even anything going on that would suggest something is coming down the pipe for Alabama right now. And we're not trying to hire a coach right now. So, whats your point?
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There isn't even anything going on that would suggest something is coming down the pipe for Alabama right now. And we're not trying to hire a coach right now. So, whats your point?
The pipe is full. It's just a matter of time.
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Fulmer says he is not interested in the job, but hopes UT finds a good coach.
http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2010/jan/14/tennessee-phillip-fulmer-releases-statement/ (http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2010/jan/14/tennessee-phillip-fulmer-releases-statement/)
I don't think the name had been floated much, but Skip Holtz has accepted the USF job. So, there is another option gone. Its looking more and more like it will be Cutcliffe.
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Fulmer says he is not interested in the job, but hopes UT finds a good coach.
http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2010/jan/14/tennessee-phillip-fulmer-releases-statement/ (http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2010/jan/14/tennessee-phillip-fulmer-releases-statement/)
I don't think the name had been floated much, but Skip Holtz has accepted the USF job. So, there is another option gone.
Read his stuff closely and see if you get the "I really want to the UT AD" feel from it I got.
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Read his stuff closely and see if you get the "I really want to the UT AD" feel from it I got.
UT would be smart to do that. They should fire Hamilton just because he was actually stupid enough to hire Kiffin. A few years down the road, USC fans are going to wonder why the fuck they thought hiring Kiffin was such a good idea. Both ADs should be fired for hiring this clown, IMO.
Another name that has emerged for the UT HC job is Derek Dooley of La Tech. I'm not so sure that you want to make him a coach in the SEC when he isn't exactly doing wonders for La Tech. He would probably do well recruiting, but the UT fans would need to realize that he is probably going to be their Shula if he is hired.
And, as predicted, Cowherd is totally slobbing Kiffin's knob. He is now flaming Petrino and Saban for what they did.
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Another name that has emerged for the UT HC job is Derek Dooley of La Tech. I'm not so sure that you want to make him a coach in the SEC when he isn't exactly doing wonders for La Tech.
Go back to the start of the season and every Bama fan I knew had La. Tech whipping Auburn's ass.
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Go back to the start of the season and every Bama fan I knew had La. Tech whipping Auburn's ass.
Yeah, but that was for entertainment purposes only.
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Go back to the start of the season and every Bama fan I knew had La. Tech whipping Auburn's ass.
Not this Alabama fan. Even with Prowler maintaining his argument that La Tech was a good team and a quality opponent for AU, I told him they sucked and Auburn should tap that ass. Anything less would have been an epic fail.
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You are correct. But many others thought Tech was formitable enough to say it.
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Not this Alabama fan. Even with Prowler maintaining his argument that La Tech was a good team and a quality opponent for AU, I told him they sucked and Auburn should tap that ass. Anything less would have been an epic fail.
Agree. I admit I geeked out over this play too. It worked against more than just La. Tech. Ask Bama's corner who's still receiving treatments for the burn.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm4k5Zbrga4# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm4k5Zbrga4#)
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Ain't gonna be Troy Calhoun per WMSP in Montgomery. He says he's staying at AFA.
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Ain't gonna be Troy Calhoun per WMSP in Montgomery. He says he's staying at AFA.
Pretty much the only viable options are Vince Dooley and Syracuse's coach.....can't remember his name. Wow. UT fans cannot be happy about this. Like I said before, I just hope they realize the situation they are in and take the hire for what it is.....
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Pretty much the only viable options are Vince Dooley and Syracuse's coach.....can't remember his name. Wow. UT fans cannot be happy about this. Like I said before, I just hope they realize the situation they are in and take the hire for what it is.....
Cutcliffe will probably be it now.
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Go back to the start of the season and every Bama fan I knew had La. Tech whipping Auburn's ass.
And this is exactly why I'm surprised to hear about Dooley again. The reason things were hyped is because they had gone 8-5 the year before.
But, with all those players back and some higher hopes....they went an ugly 4-8. Even with losses to Auburn, LSU, Boise, and Navy...they still lost to Idaho and Utah State, two teams they should have beaten. They also should have gotten a split with Fresno and Nevada.
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Quote from Troy Calhoun
“We are more than grateful and proud to be closely involved with the character building of our cadets and the mission of the United States Air Force Academy. We are diligently recruiting and working with our team to prepare for the upcoming season. We look forward to coaching and being a part of the Air Force Academy team both on and off the field in 2010.” - Troy Calhoun, Air Force head football coach.
Mike Hamilton is fucked.
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Ain't gonna be Troy Calhoun per WMSP in Montgomery. He says he's staying at AFA.
Wow, how bad do you have to feel if you are UT? Can't even snipe a coach away from AFA.
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Why not throw $3.5 million at Peterson from Boise?
Part of the reason he's never left is because people talk $2 million to him, thinking they are doubling his salary and surely he'll listen. Someone will have to more than double his salary to drag him away from the paradise he has going (guaranteed 10-13 wins and BCS hopes every year).
But why not triple his salary? I think he's probably worth it....more so than Muschamp.
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Wow, how bad do you have to feel if you are UT? Can't even snipe a coach away from AFA.
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Cutcliffe will probably be it now.
If I'm a UT fan, Cutcliffe isn't sounding so bad compared to some of the names being thrown around.
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If I'm a UT fan, Cutcliffe isn't sounding so bad compared to some of the names being thrown around.
If I'm a UT fan, I'm hoping they hire Phil back for a one year HC deal and then transition to AD. This is a clusterfuck.
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Why not throw $3.5 million at Peterson from Boise?
Part of the reason he's never left is because people talk $2 million to him, thinking they are doubling his salary and surely he'll listen. Someone will have to more than double his salary to drag him away from the paradise he has going (guaranteed 10-13 wins and BCS hopes every year).
But why not triple his salary? I think he's probably worth it....more so than Muschamp.
My thoughts on Petersen too. He gets slighted into remaining at Boise but if Tennessee doesn't hire a perceived heavyweight, Cutcliffe is their best bet as far as securing recruits, eliminating thuggery and competing at this level.
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My thoughts on Petersen too. He gets slighted into remaining at Boise but if Tennessee doesn't hire a perceived heavyweight, Cutcliffe is their best bet as far as securing recruits, eliminating thuggery and competing at this level.
Hamilton just needs to snub a minority candidate and it'll be the clusterfuck coaching search of all time.
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There is a thread on VolNation wondering if Saban would go to UT for $10 million a year.
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Does Bama get minority credits for hiring Saban? AU didn't for Terry Bowden.
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Per ESPN, Norm Chow will remain at UCLA. Supposedly Kiffin wasn't all that keen on hiring him, but the AD absolutely demanded the hire. Either way, if I'm Norm Chow, I don't even want to be associated with this cluster fuck.
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What on God's Green Earth is the hold up on announcing Gary Patterson as the head coach at UT?
And why was he not their first or second choice along with Will "BMF" Muschamp?
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WAR EAGLE
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My thoughts on Petersen too. He gets slighted into remaining at Boise but if Tennessee doesn't hire a perceived heavyweight, Cutcliffe is their best bet as far as securing recruits, eliminating thuggery and competing at this level.
Do that and UT has no team.
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What on God's Green Earth is the hold up on announcing Gary Patterson as the head coach at UT?
And why was he not their first or second choice along with Will "BMF" Muschamp?
:rimshot:
WAR EAGLE
Paterson & Peterson should have been the top two names on the list.
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What if Mack Brown pulls a Joe Paterno? Muschamp might run out of enthusiasm for a HC position by then.