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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Kaos on January 05, 2010, 12:59:27 PM
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He's about as even as you're going to get in the Birmingham media, but he's still a whining Bama bitch at times.
http://blog.al.com/kevin-scarbinsky/2010/01/post_6.html (http://blog.al.com/kevin-scarbinsky/2010/01/post_6.html)
Guess what the FWAA did Monday.
Named TCU's Gary Patterson the winner of the Eddie Robinson Award as college football coach of the year.
Do you know who would deserve that award if Alabama, with a first-year starting quarterback and rebuilt offensive line, finishes 14-0?
And...
Back in September, the Sporting News named Urban Meyer the SEC coach of the decade.
Do you know who would deserve that honor if Alabama beats Texas?
Saban.
And...
Do you know who would deserve the Heisman if Texas beats Alabama and Colt McCoy leads the game-winning drive in the final minute?
Sorry. I'm not going there.
Fuckstick.
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I think Token nailed it on the head in another thread. I spoke of it a couple of weeks ago, and said thats why I didn't really like Scab. Same reason as Token. I think it was THS or somebody that was telling me I was wrong. I just find most of his articles to be negative. Anything he writes always has that Finebaum-ish tone to it. It just makes you feel dirty reading it.
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I think Token nailed it on the head in another thread. I spoke of it a couple of weeks ago, and said thats why I didn't really like Scab. Same reason as Token. I think it was THS or somebody that was telling me I was wrong. I just find most of his articles to be negative. Anything he writes always has that Finebaum-ish tone to it. It just makes you feel dirty reading it.
I think he's grown a little bitter if you want to know. He doesn't much like Alabama or Auburn fans, really. I met him a lot of years ago at a Bama basketball game and I got the sense that he thought the B'ham News would be his stepping stone to a gig with the AJC or something and he'd move right up to New York and SI or a major slot.
But here he still is, who knows how long he's been there but ten years is a conservative estimate.
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Fool me once...
Scarbo's a rogue reporter with an ax to grind.
At least the guy attempts to be unbiased where the others don't even bother.
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I like your arsenal of Flying Circus gifs.
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and right on cue...
http://blog.al.com/kevin-scarbinsky/2010/01/hey_auburn_dont_hate_james_wil.html (http://blog.al.com/kevin-scarbinsky/2010/01/hey_auburn_dont_hate_james_wil.html)
Fuck him and James Willis in da mouf ($1 to sani)
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and right on cue...
http://blog.al.com/kevin-scarbinsky/2010/01/hey_auburn_dont_hate_james_wil.html (http://blog.al.com/kevin-scarbinsky/2010/01/hey_auburn_dont_hate_james_wil.html)
phuk him and James Willis in da mouf ($1 to sani)
Sad for you.
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But here he still is, who knows how long he's been there but ten years is a conservative estimate.
He has been there over twenty years - since at least 1988
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Sad for you.
Why so? The article referred to Willis being "right".
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Why so? The article referred to Willis being "right".
You clearly didn't read the article.
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You clearly didn't read the article.
I read it...but it still didn't change my mind. That thing is a steel trap.
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I read it...but it still didn't change my mind. That thing is a steel trap.
Some Auburn fans understood that Willis made a business decision.
Others never will.
Sad for them.
I didn't literally mean, "Sad for you". I was just jabbing because I knew your position.
Now don't make me explain myself again.
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I didn't literally mean, "Sad for you". I was just jabbing because I knew your position.
Now don't make me explain myself again.
Dammit...I never read the last sentence of any article. It's against my religion.
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I think Token nailed it on the head in another thread. I spoke of it a couple of weeks ago, and said thats why I didn't really like Scab. Same reason as Token. I think it was THS or somebody that was telling me I was wrong. I just find most of his articles to be negative. Anything he writes always has that Finebaum-ish tone to it. It just makes you feel dirty reading it.
Not me. I thought you read my posts, RWS? I'm hurt.
I don't think Scarby says shit. Ever. I think he walks a fine line and tries to appease both fanbases. I actually think you're right. He's very Finebaum-ish in the sense that he wants to stir the pot. The problem with Scarby? He's too scared to be the pot stirrer. He gets an itch one day and tries to do it. Most of the time his articles remind me of conversations we had playing poker in college. You get a few drinks in you and you'll debate whether or not it's possible to take out a velociraptor with a pistol.
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When Scarbinsky came to Birmingham, there was the Post Herald, to which Finebaum was the top dog, and the News, to which Clyde Bolton was #1. Bolton decided to retire after an Arizona company (I believe it was) decided to purchase both and combine the two.
Finebaum still operates as if he were Paul Bryant's personal scribe, although he was little more than a snide upstart who just happened to figure out where his bread was buttered.
Scarbinsky had a style much like Frank Deford and practiced human interest stories when he began here but really had no choice but to join in on the ignorance of what is the Alabama-Auburn fray. Very knowledgeable of basketball, and much more of a pure writer than anyone on staff or in the state for that matter IMO; Scarbo was relegated to second fiddle from the beginning and it is my guess that for many reasons, family included, he has decided to stay for better or worse and play out his hand.
I always felt that Tuberville wouldn't give Finebaum the time of day which was the reason for the animosity toward the coach. Dye, our caricature much as I thought Frank Boyles to be long after he stopped coaching, has played the bufoon long enough for Finebaum. I do not have a sense of how Chizik fits in among the news types but he seems to keep it to coach speak only for the most part which is a plus.
Chizik and his staff have taken recruiting nationally which is what I have always wanted Auburn to do in order to neutralize Alabama. And though the six straight wins over Alabama were impressive, recruiting was left wide open and areas were left undefended enabling Saban to walk right in. I do not think Rich Rodriguez could do the same.
That is one of the few complaints that I have with Tubs but it is a huge one.
Auburn under Tubs could have delivered a crippling blow to Tuscaloosa, but failed to do so. Still, what is a rivalry with a pathetic opponent that narrowly escaped the death penalty in light of what happened to the SWC because of SMU.
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And I know its picking nits, and drives Kaos crazy, but the fact that we smelled blood in the water and didn't pouce for the jugular eats at me to this day. Bama was down, we had them on the ropes, we should have used the 13-0 in 2004 to put a stranglehold on them. But we didn't. 6 in a row? Sure, it was nice. Every game was close though. We never blew them out. They were competitive with us even though they were on probation, had the Shula, Franchione, Price, Dumbose carosel, and we were on top of the world. We should have been light years ahead of their program. Then, the one year they get an advantage back, they kill us 36-0. It just aggravates me that we couldnt put more distance between ourselves and them during that span. Kaos, I know you are going to say Tubs' morale was low and "he was tired of fooling with the monkeys in the administration" but I just don't buy that explanation. He was getting paid a lot of money. We, the fans, pay tons of money to see his product. By quitting on us after 2004, it hurt the fans and players. We always supported him. Hell, I wrote him a letter in support after 2003's Jetgate. I thought he was too good of a man to have that done to him. The fans overwhelmingly supported him after Jetgate. So did he "quit" after that? Yeah, maybe. But like I said - it hurt the fans and players - not the PTB. They were all still lining their pockets and shaking hands at VP events. Those guys are gonna get their money. No - it didn't bother those guys a bit. He gave them what they wanted if you ask me. ~End Rant~ :)
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I agree. That's been my take as well. The Mobile area ie...it should be locked down. I know it isn't a popular subject but it is one that cannot be ignored. I'm interested to see where Tub's lands.
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You get a few drinks in you and you'll debate whether or not it's possible to take out a velociraptor with a pistol.
No way can you take out a velociraptor with a pistol. Definitely have to use something bigger. As fast as they are, probably need something automatic.
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And I know its picking nits, and drives Kaos crazy, but the fact that we smelled blood in the water and didn't pouce for the jugular eats at me to this day. Bama was down, we had them on the ropes, we should have used the 13-0 in 2004 to put a stranglehold on them. But we didn't. 6 in a row? Sure, it was nice. Every game was close though. We never blew them out. They were competitive with us even though they were on probation, had the Shula, Franchione, Price, Dumbose carosel, and we were on top of the world. We should have been light years ahead of their program. Then, the one year they get an advantage back, they kill us 36-0. It just aggravates me that we couldnt put more distance between ourselves and them during that span. Kaos, I know you are going to say Tubs' morale was low and "he was tired of fooling with the monkeys in the administration" but I just don't buy that explanation. He was getting paid a lot of money. We, the fans, pay tons of money to see his product. By quitting on us after 2004, it hurt the fans and players. We always supported him. Hell, I wrote him a letter in support after 2003's Jetgate. I thought he was too good of a man to have that done to him. The fans overwhelmingly supported him after Jetgate. So did he "quit" after that? Yeah, maybe. But like I said - it hurt the fans and players - not the PTB. They were all still lining their pockets and shaking hands at VP events. Those guys are gonna get their money. No - it didn't bother those guys a bit. He gave them what they wanted if you ask me. ~End Rant~ :)
We have an app for that
:rant:
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We have an app for that
:rant:
Yeah, but you need an app for the dino-rant.
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Yeah, but you need an app for the dino-rant.
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:bowl:
Oh. I thought that was the "what what in my butt" app.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbGkxcY7YFU&feature=fvw# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbGkxcY7YFU&feature=fvw#)
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And I know its picking nits, and drives Kaos crazy, but the fact that we smelled blood in the water and didn't pouce for the jugular eats at me to this day. Bama was down, we had them on the ropes, we should have used the 13-0 in 2004 to put a stranglehold on them. But we didn't. 6 in a row? Sure, it was nice. Every game was close though. We never blew them out. They were competitive with us even though they were on probation, had the Shula, Franchione, Price, Dumbose carosel, and we were on top of the world. We should have been light years ahead of their program. Then, the one year they get an advantage back, they kill us 36-0. It just aggravates me that we couldnt put more distance between ourselves and them during that span. Kaos, I know you are going to say Tubs' morale was low and "he was tired of fooling with the monkeys in the administration" but I just don't buy that explanation. He was getting paid a lot of money. We, the fans, pay tons of money to see his product. By quitting on us after 2004, it hurt the fans and players. We always supported him. Hell, I wrote him a letter in support after 2003's Jetgate. I thought he was too good of a man to have that done to him. The fans overwhelmingly supported him after Jetgate. So did he "quit" after that? Yeah, maybe. But like I said - it hurt the fans and players - not the PTB. They were all still lining their pockets and shaking hands at VP events. Those guys are gonna get their money. No - it didn't bother those guys a bit. He gave them what they wanted if you ask me. ~End Rant~ :)
They were down during those years, but they were never down the way Auburn was down the second half of 2008. Not only that, in 2008 Alabama was in the midst of vindicating themselves (already 11-0)...and coming out of the darkness. Both programs were shooting past each other in opposite directions. That's what created the huge gap in the 2008 game.
During those 6 years that Tubs won, Alabama wasn't necessarily nose-diving at light speed at any one time. They were kind of stuck in a mediocre status quo, but not so much in a "wheels are coming off right now" situation going into a game. And don't forget they were ranked #9 in 2002 and #8 in 2005. That's being just successful enough just often enough to stay in recruits eyes and think the return to glory is just around the corner.
On top of that....there is no amount of "greatness" Auburn can be that will negate the recruiting ability of Alabama in Alabama. Although it's changing, the majority of coaches and parents still are Alabama/Bryant disciples. No matter how bad they seem, and who is coaching, they have always had a solid talent level. Even in their down years, like 2003 when they went 4-9, they lost to #3 Oklahoma by a TD, they lost to #7 Tennessee 51-43, the next week they beat Miss State 38-0, they lost to a 9-4 Arkansas team by a FG. The point is, even at 4-9, they had some talent and could play with people.
I just don't buy the idea that any Auburn coach can ever deliver a "crippling blow" to Alabama recruiting. The fact that they were ranked in the top 10 in 2005, after Tuberville had gotten great classes in the previous years, shows that there is: A. enough to go around to both schools from Alabama, Georgia, and Florida, and B. no matter how great Auburn is, Alabama will always maintain enough of a stronghold in the state to fill out it's roster nicely (and vice-versa).
Dye had Auburn at a peak for most of a decade too...yet even without Bryant, in the 1980s Alabama spent 129 weeks in the AP poll (to Auburn's 122, although Auburn spent more time in the top 10). Dye was ranked as high as #4 as late as November 1990....yet Alabama won the national title in 1992 (which was won with players being recruited while Auburn was still on top...the nose dive had not come yet).
Just like Chizik has proven...even Saban at Alabama can't slam the door on Auburn recruiting...I don't know why we expect that Tuberville or Dye or anyone else should have been able to slam the door on Alabama recruiting and deliver some death-blow to their program.