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Title: Calm Before The NCAA Storm At LSU, A Play For Pay Scandal Breaks Soon
Post by: Tiger Wench on December 08, 2009, 05:04:11 PM
Since Les Miles took over many good things have happened at LSU. They won another national championship, they've hauled in great recruiting classes and Miles has has kept the program clean.

Or has he?

Today LSUreveille.com broke the news that will sadden many LSU fans and should cause them to shake in fear. Apparently a coach on Les Miles' staff has paid a player to transfer to LSU from Sacramento City Community College in California.

Junior defensive lineman Akiem Hicks is the player under focus and apparently there is enough smoking guns to warrant an immediate reaction from LSU.

This transgression and egregious violation has now also started an NCAA probe which could result in severe penalties for the LSU program.

LSU has already started damage control by saying Les Miles' job is not on the line for this violation.

While LSU coach Les Miles’ contract states he has “an obligation personally to comply with and to exercise due care that all personnel and students subject to his direct control or authority comply with governing athletic rules,” LSU Chancellor Michael Martin released a statement Tuesday saying Miles’ job will not be affected by the alleged violations.

“This situation has absolutely zero impact on the employment contract of coach Les Miles,” Martin said in the statement. “He has been highly cooperative in this matter and from the earliest stages has actively participated in the process of resolving this situation.

In other words, they are saying Les Miles had no knowledge of this until it became public to everyone else.

In a sense, it's hard to say which is worse. Having a coach paying a player to attend your school or having a head coach who has no idea that such things are being done in his program.

Following a second straight disappointing season, the news comes at a bad time for the Tigers as they prepare for the upcoming bowl game.

The good news is that the player in question has not played in any games and therefore no losses would be forfeited, however taking money makes Hicks a professional and therefore voids his status as an amateur, making him ineligible.

As for Coach D.J. McCarthy, he was already planning on jumping ship at the end of the season and going to Memphis along with LSU running back coach Larry  Porter.  It will be interesting to see if Porter would still want him if he's the focus of NCAA scrutiny however.

Hicks was a much sought out lineman and was also pursued by many other schools including Tennessee before landing at LSU.

Pay for play is one of the more serious charges the NCAA can level. Having it come from a coach makes it even more serious and can cause the dreaded "Lack of Institutional Control" label.

For LSU fans, this off season won't be filled with speculation over which recruits the Miles staff comes in with this year, but what penalties this staff, or at least this one coach, will bring down upon them.
Title: Re: Calm Before The NCAA Storm At LSU, A Play For Pay Scandal Breaks Soon
Post by: Token on December 08, 2009, 05:12:55 PM
FWIW, they are already trying to drag other programs down with them.  Can't provide a link (premium) but apparently a few are trying to say that DeAngelo Benton was offered cash as well, but took a better deal.

Get ready for the mud slinging.
Title: Re: Calm Before The NCAA Storm At LSU, A Play For Pay Scandal Breaks Soon
Post by: Tiger Wench on December 08, 2009, 05:19:03 PM
That first article was written by that stupid bammer fuck who writes for bleacherreport.  But I did find a legit news article as well:

LSU is investigating “possible violations” involving the football team, Athletic Director Joe Alleva confirmed Monday.

The investigation primarily involves one assistant football coach and one current student athlete who has not played in a game this season, Alleva said in an e-mail response to The Advocate late Monday.

An LSU official with knowledge of the investigation and who spoke on condition of anonymity said the coach in question is wide receivers coach D.J. McCarthy, who came to Baton Rouge from UCLA in February 2007.

“Compliance issues are routinely monitored by our compliance staff and LSU is currently researching possible violations involving one assistant coach and one student-athlete in the sport of football,” Alleva said in his prepared statement.

“By procedure, the Southeastern Conference Office has been made aware of this circumstance by LSU,” Alleva continued, noting that privacy concerns prevent him from discussing details and specific individuals at this time.

The investigation is ongoing, but should not result in any possible game forfeitures because the player in question has not clocked any game minutes, said Herb Vincent, associate vice chancellor for university relations and senior associate athletic director.

When asked specifically about McCarthy’s involvement, Vincent said, “I can’t confirm that.”

Vincent declined comment on the nature and extent of possible recruiting violations or more.

The National Collegiate Athletic Association, called the NCAA, which is the organizing body for college athletics, has strict rules ranging from when possible recruits can be contacted to how often teams can practice.

Vincent also would not discuss the possible impact the investigation could have on head football coach Les Miles, except that the inquiry is believed to only involve one assistant coach.

Miles’ team finished the regular season Saturday with a 9-3 record and an overtime victory over Arkansas.

Critics noted solid late-game management in LSU’s victory, which was the opposite reaction from the loss to Ole Miss a week prior when Miles was criticized for poor clock management.

Miles could not be reached for comment Monday. Vincent said neither Miles nor Alleva would comment beyond Alleva’s statement.

McCarthy did not respond to two calls to his cell phone and e-mail messages on Monday.

McCarthy, 38, was the only offensive football coach hired before 2009 who did not receive a pay raise earlier this year.

McCarthy’s recruits for the 2009 class included junior college defensive lineman Akiem Hicks of California and highly recruited receiver Rueben Randle of Bastrop, according to Tigerbait.com, the LSU Rivals.com affiliate.

Randle’s opting to sign with LSU in February involved the controversial recruitment of his former Bastrop teammate, DeAngelo Benton, who ended up signing with Auburn University at the last minute partly because of Randle’s decision to go to LSU.
McCarthy’s top recruit commitments for the February 2010 class include wide receivers Mike Davis of Dallas and Justin Hunter of Virginia, as well as athlete Tharold Simon of Eunice, among others, according to Tigerbait.com.

McCarthy, a Rhode Island native, graduated from high school in Florida and played college football at the University of Washington.
Title: Re: Calm Before The NCAA Storm At LSU, A Play For Pay Scandal Breaks Soon
Post by: jadennis on December 08, 2009, 05:34:42 PM
I don't feel sorry for LSU, who could for any reason, but it does suck how (allegedly) one coach can do something stupid and drag down your whole university.  They'll carry the "you pay your players" label for a few years now, regardless of how many were paid or by whom. 
Title: Re: Calm Before The NCAA Storm At LSU, A Play For Pay Scandal Breaks Soon
Post by: Kaos on December 08, 2009, 05:43:56 PM
Welcome to a week ago...

http://www.tigersx.com/forum/index.php?topic=7855.0 (http://www.tigersx.com/forum/index.php?topic=7855.0)

Hashed some already.
Title: Re: Calm Before The NCAA Storm At LSU, A Play For Pay Scandal Breaks Soon
Post by: Token on December 08, 2009, 05:47:07 PM
Welcome to a week ago...

http://www.tigersx.com/forum/index.php?topic=7855.0 (http://www.tigersx.com/forum/index.php?topic=7855.0)

Hashed some already.

Don't be sassing. 
Title: Re: Calm Before The NCAA Storm At LSU, A Play For Pay Scandal Breaks Soon
Post by: Tiger Wench on December 08, 2009, 05:52:07 PM
Like you have been on top of everything... that thread meandered into so many different directions that you would have needed a compass to stay on topic...
Title: Re: Calm Before The NCAA Storm At LSU, A Play For Pay Scandal Breaks Soon
Post by: Tiger Wench on December 08, 2009, 05:52:48 PM
Don't be sassing. 
Me, being defended by a bammer.

OK, my head just exploded... :blink:
Title: Re: Calm Before The NCAA Storm At LSU, A Play For Pay Scandal Breaks Soon
Post by: RWS on December 08, 2009, 05:55:11 PM
I bet the NCAA is really going to want to talk to Rueben Randle. I wonder if he was one of the high profile recruits that got selected to talk to the NCAA about how he was recruited. If so, and if they find out he lied to them in his interview, he's going to be in hot shit for that as well.
Title: Re: Calm Before The NCAA Storm At LSU, A Play For Pay Scandal Breaks Soon
Post by: boartitz on December 08, 2009, 05:55:23 PM
Like you have been on top of everything... that thread meandered into so many different directions that you would have needed a compass to stay on topic...
Passe. Get a GPS.
Oh wait, you're still hot for Tiger. Pick a number. :)
Title: Re: Calm Before The NCAA Storm At LSU, A Play For Pay Scandal Breaks Soon
Post by: Tiger Wench on December 08, 2009, 05:57:10 PM
Passe. Get a GPS.
Oh wait, you're still hot for Tiger. Pick a number. :)
Correction - I am hot for Tiger's money.  He is just a bonus prize - or was, until I saw how into many nasty bunkers he has wedged his wood.  Damn, dude.   :blink:
Title: Re: Calm Before The NCAA Storm At LSU, A Play For Pay Scandal Breaks Soon
Post by: boartitz on December 08, 2009, 06:44:17 PM
Correction - I am hot for Tiger's money.  He is just a bonus prize - or was, until I saw how into many nasty bunkers he has wedged his wood.  Damn, dude.   :blink:
His hotness has cooled because of all the wetness on his wick? He's a man whore. 10 and counting is what had been quoted.
When the saints
Come marching in
Do you really want to be in that number?
I used to be John Holmes stand-in and I didn't get that much pussy.
Title: Re: Calm Before The NCAA Storm At LSU, A Play For Pay Scandal Breaks Soon
Post by: Tiger Wench on December 09, 2009, 04:29:48 PM
His hotness has cooled because of all the wetness on his wick?
No, his hotness has cooled because of all the chlamydia on his wick.
Title: Re: Calm Before The NCAA Storm At LSU, A Play For Pay Scandal Breaks Soon
Post by: Token on December 09, 2009, 04:46:25 PM
No, his hotness has cooled because of all the chlamydia on his wick.

Tiger cleans the 1 wood after every round, he should be good. 
Title: Re: Calm Before The NCAA Storm At LSU, A Play For Pay Scandal Breaks Soon
Post by: Tiger Wench on December 09, 2009, 08:12:42 PM
Tiger cleans the 1 wood after every round, he should be good. 
I don't think that shit will buff out...
Title: Re: Calm Before The NCAA Storm At LSU, A Play For Pay Scandal Breaks Soon
Post by: Token on December 09, 2009, 08:33:38 PM
I don't think that poop will buff out...

You may be right.  I mean, we're looking at 18 holes in one round. 
Title: Re: Calm Before The NCAA Storm At LSU, A Play For Pay Scandal Breaks Soon
Post by: No Huddle on December 10, 2009, 11:43:21 AM
Word is he did not like wearing protection so he could be damaged goods. If you were Elin Woods how many women would have been fine and you and Tiger could have worked it out?
Title: Re: Calm Before The NCAA Storm At LSU, A Play For Pay Scandal Breaks Soon
Post by: Tiger Wench on December 10, 2009, 12:09:08 PM
Word is he did not like wearing protection so he could be damaged goods. If you were Elin Woods how many women would have been fine and you and Tiger could have worked it out?
Another female golfer?  One, maybe.

A nasty skanky ho?  ZERO.  The whole "It was just sex, honey" thing does not fly with me, if for no other reason than the potential for him to bring home some disease and unknowingly ruin his wife's life.  That is how one of my friends found out her (now-ex) husband was cheating on her - she got chlyamidia and she had not been with anyone else - but apparently asshole had been... If my ex had done that to me, I would have literally killed him, after I told his family and every single human he ever knew what a scumbag he was.

So yeah, Tiger is nasty now.
Title: Re: Calm Before The NCAA Storm At LSU, A Play For Pay Scandal Breaks Soon
Post by: boartitz on December 10, 2009, 12:34:01 PM
Another female golfer?  One, maybe.

A nasty skanky ho?  ZERO.  The whole "It was just sex, honey" thing does not fly with me, if for no other reason than the potential for him to bring home some disease and unknowingly ruin his wife's life.  That is how one of my friends found out her (now-ex) husband was cheating on her - she got chlyamidia and she had not been with anyone else - but apparently asshole had been... If my ex had done that to me, I would have literally killed him, after I told his family and every single human he ever knew what a scumbag he was.

So yeah, Tiger is nasty now.
So I guess you're reconsidering the Bill Gates/Warren Buffett hook-up now?
Where's the run like a motherfucker whilst ducking icon? :)
Title: Re: Calm Before The NCAA Storm At LSU, A Play For Pay Scandal Breaks Soon
Post by: Tiger Wench on December 10, 2009, 12:36:53 PM
So I guess you're reconsidering the Bill Gates/Warren Buffett hook-up now?
Not even with your vagina.  Altho that would probably be a step up for your wife.
Title: Re: Calm Before The NCAA Storm At LSU, A Play For Pay Scandal Breaks Soon
Post by: boartitz on December 10, 2009, 12:39:16 PM
All's fair in love, war and the SEC.
Saban knows where the bodies are buried in Baton Rouge. Would he rat them out for his benefit? Fuckin'A.
Tennessee is an up and comer with a new coach, albeit one new to the SEC. Would Saban step on his neck in an attempt to hold him down? Fuckin'A.
Meyer is probably Saban's biggest competition in the SEC at this point in time. Would he give Meyer a kick in the nuts if he had a chance? Fuckin'A.
Title: Re: Calm Before The NCAA Storm At LSU, A Play For Pay Scandal Breaks Soon
Post by: boartitz on December 10, 2009, 12:44:45 PM
Not even with your vagina.  Altho that would probably be a step up for your wife.
Damn, you were all lovey-dovey about Tiger not long ago. I hate that he broke your heart by showing his true scum colors.
 
Title: Re: Calm Before The NCAA Storm At LSU, A Play For Pay Scandal Breaks Soon
Post by: Tiger Wench on December 10, 2009, 01:09:32 PM
Damn, you were all lovey-dovey about Tiger not long ago. I hate that he broke your heart by showing his true scum colors.
No broken heart.  I am a realist.  All men are scum - some are more "true scum" than others and sometimes it just takes longer for some to show their "true scum colors".  But the reality is still there.

Plus, he actually was not even on my "Any place, any time, unconditionally" list.
Title: Re: Calm Before The NCAA Storm At LSU, A Play For Pay Scandal Breaks Soon
Post by: No Huddle on December 10, 2009, 01:20:40 PM
No broken heart.  I am a realist.  All men are scum - some are more "true scum" than others and sometimes it just takes longer for some to show their "true scum colors".  But the reality is still there.

Plus, he actually was not even on my "Any place, any time, unconditionally" list.


Now now not all men are scum.
Title: Re: Calm Before The NCAA Storm At LSU, A Play For Pay Scandal Breaks Soon
Post by: boartitz on December 10, 2009, 01:21:51 PM
No broken heart.  I am a realist.  All men are scum - some are more "true scum" than others and sometimes it just takes longer for some to show their "true scum colors".  But the reality is still there.

Plus, he actually was not even on my "Any place, any time, unconditionally" list.

Show last posts is yore frien.
He is the only hot guy I know with that much money.  For me to do what was suggested, there would have to be a hotness factor along with the money.

Bill Gates?  As if.

Warren Buffett?  Not a chance.

Tiger Woods it is.

I'm glad. It's bad enough to be with a coonass in Texas.
Title: Re: Calm Before The NCAA Storm At LSU, A Play For Pay Scandal Breaks Soon
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 10, 2009, 02:12:07 PM
The next thing will be Tiger checking into rehab for a "SEx addiction" like Wade Boggs and David Duchovney (sp?).  Then it can be spun to show that he had some kind of chemical imbalance and it's just not his fault.
Title: Re: Calm Before The NCAA Storm At LSU, A Play For Pay Scandal Breaks Soon
Post by: Ogre on December 10, 2009, 02:17:53 PM
The next thing will be Tiger checking into rehab for a "SEx addiction" like Wade Boggs and David Duchovney (sp?).  Then it can be spun to show that he had some kind of chemical imbalance and it's just not his fault.

Wait a second - they can do that? 
Title: Re: Calm Before The NCAA Storm At LSU, A Play For Pay Scandal Breaks Soon
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 10, 2009, 02:24:36 PM
Wait a second - they can do that?  


It's all the rage nowadays.  His PR team needs to jump on this pronto.  All will be forgiven.
Title: Re: Calm Before The NCAA Storm At LSU, A Play For Pay Scandal Breaks Soon
Post by: wesfau2 on December 10, 2009, 02:50:59 PM
The next thing will be Tiger checking into rehab for a "SEx addiction" like Wade Boggs and David Duchovney (sp?).  Then it can be spun to show that he had some kind of chemical imbalance and it's just not his fault.

I said this exact same thing to a co-worker yesterday.  If his agent isn't pushing this advice HARD then Tiger needs new representation.
Title: Re: Calm Before The NCAA Storm At LSU, A Play For Pay Scandal Breaks Soon
Post by: boartitz on December 10, 2009, 03:10:54 PM
I said this exact same thing to a co-worker yesterday.  If his agent isn't pushing this advice HARD then Tiger needs new representation.
If I was Tiger.
OK , I fucked up. I can live like a god the rest of my life, divorce or no. Fuck yall, adios.
Title: Re: Calm Before The NCAA Storm At LSU, A Play For Pay Scandal Breaks Soon
Post by: Tiger Wench on December 10, 2009, 03:40:17 PM
Show last posts is yore frien.
He is the only hot guy I know with that much money.  For me to do what was suggested, there would have to be a hotness factor along with the money.

Bill Gates?  As if.

Warren Buffett?  Not a chance.

Tiger Woods it is.

I'm glad. It's bad enough to be with a coonass in Texas.
The original comment was in response to the statement that there are some things wives won't do.  I replied that for that much money, there was nothing I wouldn't do, as long as there was a hotness factor.  Bill and Warren still do not qualify.  Now that the word is out, Tiger no longer qualifies because he has been loving him some stank ass ho's and I do not want my hoo-hah to fall out.

Tiger is not and was not on my "would do anytime, anywhere, unconditionally" list.  That list is reserved for guys like Pierce Brosnan and Harrison Ford.

And better a coonass in TX than a sooeee pig anywhere. :poke: :)
Title: Re: Calm Before The NCAA Storm At LSU, A Play For Pay Scandal Breaks Soon
Post by: boartitz on December 10, 2009, 03:48:32 PM
The original comment was in response to the statement that there are some things wives won't do.  I replied that for that much money, there was nothing I wouldn't do, as long as there was a hotness factor.  Bill and Warren still do not qualify.  Now that the word is out, Tiger no longer qualifies because he has been loving him some stank ass ho's and I do not want my hoo-hah to fall out.

Tiger is not and was not on my "would do anytime, anywhere, unconditionally" list.  That list is reserved for guys like Pierce Brosnan and Harrison Ford.
Keep refining your list. If you get down to a 50+ bald headed Arky with sections of lands, holla.
I'd need pics first. Nah, I'll keep what I have. Bird in hand.
Title: Re: Calm Before The NCAA Storm At LSU, A Play For Pay Scandal Breaks Soon
Post by: Tiger Wench on December 10, 2009, 11:32:50 PM
Keep refining your list. If you get down to a 50+ bald headed Arky with sections of lands, holla.
I'd need pics first. Nah, I'll keep what I have. Bird in hand.
Sorry - I already have huge tracts of land...