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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: RWS on December 07, 2009, 11:31:06 AM
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He will forgo his senior season and enter the draft. He is doing so on the advice of Charlie Weis. I mean, shit, the kid can't do much worse with a new coach. Why not go ahead and get another year's experience in? Looks like Weis is trying to stick it to the Irish a little.
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No, this isn't about sticking it to the Irish.
Jimmy Clausen had a good year statistically and doesn't want to have another offense to learn next year without getting paid for it. Look at the QB class coming out and you'll also see why now is the time for him to go. Strike while the iron is hot. It's the cautionary tale of Matt Leinart and Sam Bradford.
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No, this isn't about sticking it to the Irish.
Jimmy Clausen had a good year statistically and doesn't want to have another offense to learn next year without getting paid for it. Look at the QB class coming out and you'll also see why now is the time for him to go. Strike while the iron is hot. It's the cautionary tale of Matt Leinart and Sam Bradford.
You are correct sir.
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No, this isn't about sticking it to the Irish.
Jimmy Clausen had a good year statistically and doesn't want to have another offense to learn next year without getting paid for it. Look at the QB class coming out and you'll also see why now is the time for him to go. Strike while the iron is hot. It's the cautionary tale of Matt Leinart and Sam Bradford.
Yep! Perzactly! And he's the prototypical NFL QB...all the physical tools, and played in a pro-style offense in college. He'll go early.
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Yep! Perzactly! And he's the prototypical NFL QB...all the physical tools, and played in a pro-style offense in college. He'll go early.
And fail spectacularly.
I got a feeling.
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The guy had some sick stats this year and he's basically had the reigns since coming in, so another year's experience won't matter much either way.
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It's the cautionary tale of Matt Leinart and Sam Bradford.
:thumbsup:
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And fail spectacularly.
I got a feeling.
About like 75% of them do.
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And fail spectacularly.
I got a feeling.
I agree with your feeling. Size is a problem for him. He's allegedly 6-3, but I'm not buying it.
Biggest problem? He looks like a punk ass bitch.
(http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/jimmy-clausen-high-school.jpg)
He will be a flop like Matt Leinart and Brady Quinn -- both of whom are better QBs than he is.
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No, this isn't about sticking it to the Irish.
Jimmy Clausen had a good year statistically and doesn't want to have another offense to learn next year without getting paid for it. Look at the QB class coming out and you'll also see why now is the time for him to go. Strike while the iron is hot. It's the cautionary tale of Matt Leinart and Sam Bradford.
Ding, Ding, Ding...I knew that he and Golden Tate were leaving early. They both had great Junior seasons. BTW, whoever lands the ND job will have A LOT of work to do on the offensive side of the ball....Defensive side of the ball? Not so much, except for replacing both Safeties and a few key backups.
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Lou Holtzth predicts Clawshun will be the first pick in the draft.
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I agree with your feeling. Size is a problem for him. He's allegedly 6-3, but I'm not buying it.
Biggest problem? He looks like a punk ass bitch.
(http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/jimmy-clausen-high-school.jpg)
He will be a flop like Matt Leinart and Brady Quinn -- both of whom are better QBs than he is.
Kind of along the same lines I was thinking. This is why I was saying he should get the extra year of experience in the college game. Other than stats, what makes this kid so great?
Look at Graham Harrell. Insane stats, and came in 4th in the Heisman race in 2008. 15,793 career yards and 134 career TDs. 5,111 yards and 45 TDs his last season with a 160 QB rating for the year. His ass is in the CFL right now.
Clausen has 8,148 career yards and 60 career TDs, playing the same amount of years as Harrell. This season he has 3,722 yards and 28 TDs with a passer rating of 161. I just don't see what is so special about the kid. The NFL doesn't draft on stats.
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Biggest problem? He looks like a punk ass bitch.
(http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/jimmy-clausen-high-school.jpg)
Yeah, he's not going to be a good NFL QB because he looks like a punk ass bitch.
Signed,
(http://www.born-today.com/btpix/mcmahon_jim.jpg)
Jim McMahon
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Name one successful and notable quarterbacks in the NFL that declared for the draft their junior year.
I'll hang up and listen.
If you do find one, name two.
I'll hang up and listen.
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Clausen's hype far exceeded his actual ability.
But I would have taken Ryan Leaf over Peyton if I'd been drafting back in the day. Leaf had more raw talent.
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Clausen's hype far exceeded his actual ability.
But I would have taken Ryan Leaf over Peyton if I'd been drafting back in the day. Leaf had more raw talent.
Leaf had more talent. Leinart had talent, and he looked like a sure thing.
Aaron Rodgers is the only quarterback I can think of that declared early and has had success in the NFL. Although, he sat behind Brett Favre for a few years, and he's not really a great QB right now.
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Leaf had more talent. Leinart had talent, and he looked like a sure thing.
Aaron Rodgers is the only quarterback I can think of that declared early and has had success in the NFL. Although, he sat behind Brett Favre for a few years, and he's not really a great QB right now.
Rodgers' problems are his lack of a solid offensive line and a running game. There's nothing wrong with his game. He's one of the top QBs in the league.
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Rodgers' problems are his lack of a solid offensive line and a running game. There's nothing wrong with his game. He's one of the top QBs in the league.
Define "top." I think I could name five better:
Favre
Brady
Manning
Brees
Ryan
Rodgers is good, but he's still only one who declared early to have success in the NFL. Odds are against Clausen leaving school a year early.
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Odds are against Clausen leaving school a year early.
Mostly because he looks like a punk ass snot nosed little bitch.
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Mostly because he looks like a punk ass snot nosed little bitch.
"Oh stop!!!"
(http://206forthetwenties.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/jimmy-clausen.jpg)
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Define "top." I think I could name five better:
Favre
Brady
Manning
Brees
Ryan
Rodgers is good, but he's still only one who declared early to have success in the NFL. Odds are against Clausen leaving school a year early.
He is 4th in passer rating (103.3) currently behind Brees, Favre and Rivers.
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?statisticCategory=PASSING&tabSeq=0 (http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?statisticCategory=PASSING&tabSeq=0)
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Mostly because he looks like a punk ass snot nosed little bitch.
...or an Emu.
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He is 4th in passer rating (103.3) currently behind Brees, Favre and Rivers.
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?statisticCategory=PASSING&tabSeq=0 (http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?statisticCategory=PASSING&tabSeq=0)
Interesting.
So you would take Rodgers over Manning, Brady, and Ryan? What about McNabb?
I think I might take a healthy Kurt Warner over Aaron Rodgers.
But still. The point stands. There is one successful quarterback in the NFL that left his junior year. Odds are still against Clausen having any kind of success. Based on statistics and history, he'd be better off staying at Notre Dame even if it means learning a new offense.
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Interesting.
So you would take Rodgers over Manning, Brady, and Ryan? What about McNabb?
I think I might take a healthy Kurt Warner over Aaron Rodgers.
But still. The point stands. There is one successful quarterback in the NFL that left his junior year. Odds are still against Clausen having any kind of success. Based on statistics and history, he'd be better off staying at Notre Dame even if it means learning a new offense.
And even for the one success who left early, we can't forget he got there and sat for 3 years too and was 24-25 years old when he finally became a starter. Clausen is 22 right now, but losses at least 3 years because of his gayness in the picture posted above earlier and the one below.
(http://www.notredamesucks.org/clausen.jpg)
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Interesting.
So you would take Rodgers over Manning, Brady, and Ryan? What about McNabb?
I think I might take a healthy Kurt Warner over Aaron Rodgers.
But still. The point stands. There is one successful quarterback in the NFL that left his junior year. Odds are still against Clausen having any kind of success. Based on statistics and history, he'd be better off staying at Notre Dame even if it means learning a new offense.
Over Ryan? In a heartbeat. Why the fuck is a sophmore QB for the loser assed Falcons even in the discussion. :rofl:
Over Manning and Brady? Not a chance. Just saying Rodgers has turned into a good QB. Packers wouldnt have went wrong either way last year.
I really think it had more to do with the new impending salary cap limits for rookies in 2011 that helped his decision. I think it may be weighing on McClain's mind as well.
And yes JA, I am beginning to wonder about Clausen's "affiliation". Too many pictures to be a coincidence. LOL
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Over Ryan? In a heartbeat. Why the fuck is a sophmore QB for the loser assed Falcons even in the discussion. :rofl:
This tells me all I need to know about future conversations with you concerning NFL football.
Matt Ryan > Aaron Rodgers. In a heartbeat.