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Title: *Word on da skreets....*
Post by: The Prowler on December 03, 2009, 07:53:06 PM
Backup QB Tyrik Rollison has been suspended for violation of team rules....Updates on the situation will probably come out later tonight or tomorrow.

Also, UGA's Rodney Garner has decided to call it quits...word is he talked to Coach Richt about the open DC job and he was told that he wasn't going to be named as the DC, he quit.
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Post by: Snaggletiger on December 03, 2009, 07:58:54 PM
Backup QB Tyrik Rollison has been suspended for violation of team rules....Updates on the situation will probably come out later tonight or tomorrow.

Also, UGA's Rodney Garner has decided to call it quits...word is he talked to Coach Richt about the open DC job and he was told that he wasn't going to be named as the DC, he quit.


Word on my skreet is I'd run Boulware's ass off now and give Garner that position, whether he knows a damn thing about it or not.  Boulware sure doesn't. But, come to think of it, Garner would only slow us down in recruiting...right?
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Post by: AUTailgatingRules on December 03, 2009, 07:59:41 PM
Welcome to the starting job....

Signed Neil Caudle and Barrett Trotter
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Post by: ibelonginprison on December 03, 2009, 07:59:55 PM
Backup QB Tyrik Rollison has been suspended for violation of team rules....Updates on the situation will probably come out later tonight or tomorrow.

We have until Spring for him to "unsuspend himself."

Not worried about that bullshit until they tell me he's not practicing this spring.
Title: Re: *Word on da skreets....*
Post by: AUTailgatingRules on December 03, 2009, 08:14:46 PM
I'm guessing grades or skipping classes
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Post by: Kaos on December 03, 2009, 08:15:14 PM
Please remember my limb.
Title: Re: *Word on da skreets....*
Post by: The Prowler on December 03, 2009, 08:21:22 PM
Please remember my limb.
Your "limb" has jack shit to do with him being suspended.  The "limb" statement was made in your response to him being as good as he was hyped up to be.  BTW, suspended doesn't mean kicked off the team.
Title: Re: *Word on da skreets....*
Post by: RWS on December 03, 2009, 08:24:37 PM
A Chizik recruit? Discipline issues? Impossible! The man can see into the future. How was this possible?
Title: Re: *Word on da skreets....*
Post by: Kaos on December 03, 2009, 09:30:50 PM
Your "limb" has jack poop to do with him being suspended.  The "limb" statement was made in your response to him being as good as he was hyped up to be.  BTW, suspended doesn't mean kicked off the team.

If he doesn't live up to potential, he doesn't live up to potential -- whatever the reason. 

I'm saying now (and have said all along) that this guy will never, ever, ever be all that.  Or this.  He will never be "the man" at AU and if he is, we're in a bundle of shit.
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Post by: AUChizad on December 03, 2009, 09:32:37 PM
I'm saying now (and have said all along) that this guy will never, ever, ever be all that.  Or this.  He will never be "the man" at AU blind speculation, blind speculation, blind speculation, blind speculation and if he is, we're in a bundle of shit. ignorant nonsense
Title: Re: *Word on da skreets....*
Post by: The Prowler on December 03, 2009, 09:40:45 PM
If he doesn't live up to potential, he doesn't live up to potential -- whatever the reason. 

I'm saying now (and have said all along) that this guy will never, ever, ever be all that.  Or this.  He will never be "the man" at AU and if he is, we're in a bundle of shit.
You really have no fuckin' clue do you.  Another thing, if he is kicked off the team right now, goes somewhere else...anywhere else, and has three outstanding years....then gets drafted by some NFL team and has some really good years there, would that still mean that he didn't live up to his potential.  Because, you saying that he'll never...EVER, EVER live up to his potential is not including his stay at Auburn.  Like I said before, you don't know jack shit about if he will or wont live up to his potential.  You're just getting yourself ready for if/when he's named the starter at Auburn you can get your crew (you and greaseybammer) up with pitch forks and dildos...pokin' and fuckin' every topic on the message board.
Title: Re: *Word on da skreets....*
Post by: Kaos on December 03, 2009, 09:49:05 PM


Yes.  It's my opinion.  Based on what I think.  

You have a problem with people who have opinions.  That much is clear.  Projecting him to be anything is equally blind speculation.
Title: Re: *Word on da skreets....*
Post by: Kaos on December 03, 2009, 09:51:52 PM
You really have no phukin' clue do you.  Another thing, if he is kicked off the team right now, goes somewhere else...anywhere else, and has three outstanding years....then gets drafted by some NFL team and has some really good years there, would that still mean that he didn't live up to his potential.  Because, you saying that he'll never...EVER, EVER live up to his potential is not including his stay at Auburn.  Like I said before, you don't know jack poop about if he will or wont live up to his potential.  You're just getting yourself ready for if/when he's named the starter at Auburn you can get your crew (you and greaseybammer) up with pitch forks and dildos...pokin' and phukin' every topic on the message board.

Funny. 

This is one of the top ten most ridiculous replies I've ever seen. 

I don't care if he goes to Dillburg Tech and sets 400 kabillion NCAA records and is drafted into the NFL Hall of Fame despite never playing a snap in the league.  That has no bearing on anything. 

All I'm saying is that this guy will never be the QB at Auburn most of you have set him up to be.  That's my opinion -- and like most of mine -- you will see it come to fruition in the coming years.  Not recruiting a QB this season is an epic fail. 
Title: Re: *Word on da skreets....*
Post by: AUChizad on December 03, 2009, 09:54:15 PM
Yes.  It's my opinion.  Based on what I think.  

You have a problem with people who have opinions.  That much is clear.
It's that you're stating as fact something that is not only speculative, but supported by absolutely nothing, besides your belief that you have a psychic gift.

The last sentence could be based on something besides your holy premonition, but if you had actually seen and/or heard reports of how he has performed in practice, you would spare the doom and gloom. But I know. That's not your style. The sky is falling and all that. Got it.
Title: Re: *Word on da skreets....*
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 03, 2009, 10:00:56 PM
Funny. 

This is one of the top ten most ridiculous replies I've ever seen. 

I don't care if he goes to Dillburg Tech and sets 400 kabillion NCAA records and is drafted into the NFL Hall of Fame despite never playing a snap in the league.  That has no bearing on anything. 

All I'm saying is that this guy will never be the QB at Auburn most of you have set him up to be.  That's my opinion -- and like most of mine -- you will see it come to fruition in the coming years.  Not recruiting a QB this season is an epic fail. 

Ben Leard strongly disagrees with your opinion.
Title: Re: *Word on da skreets....*
Post by: Kaos on December 03, 2009, 10:10:26 PM
It's that you're stating as fact something that is not only speculative, but supported by absolutely nothing, besides your belief that you have a psychic gift.

The last sentence could be based on something besides your holy premonition, but if you had actually seen and/or heard reports of how he has performed in practice, you would spare the doom and gloom. But I know. That's not your style. The sky is falling and all that. Got it.

How the fuck else do you state an opinion, Chizz? 

You state it as your opinion.  I wasn't aware that my posts carried the weight of papal bull.  I wasn't aware that I needed to put a fucking disclaimer on everything I write.   I thought it was clear that when you posted something it was your FUCKING OPINION. 

I don't have a psychic gift.  I just know shit.  It is my style to say what I think without a bunch of mealy mouthed "well maybe" mewling.  I say what I think (my opinion), don't attempt to couch it with a bunch of qualifiers and then I live with it. That's how it's always going to be. Always. 
Title: Re: *Word on da skreets....*
Post by: Kaos on December 03, 2009, 10:11:35 PM
Ben Leard strongly disagrees with your opinion.

He has the right to do so.  He also has the right to be wrong.
Title: Re: *Word on da skreets....*
Post by: War Eagle!!! on December 04, 2009, 12:52:06 PM
He has the right to do so.  He also has the right to be wrong.

As do you.

Why are you thinking he will never be the man? What has he done? What have you seen? What have you heard?

You make this claim based on what? Your opinion? And then you expect people to just let it slide?

This is almost greaselweasel-esque... You saw TR was suspended so you have to remind everyone you don't think he will be shit....not only that, but you think he will be shit "just because"...

What are we supposed to think about your "opinion" at this point?
Title: Re: *Word on da skreets....*
Post by: Kaos on December 04, 2009, 12:56:32 PM
As do you.

Why are you thinking he will never be the man? What has he done? What have you seen? What have you heard?

You make this claim based on what? Your opinion? And then you expect people to just let it slide?

This is almost greaselweasel-esque... You saw TR was suspended so you have to remind everyone you don't think he will be poop....not only that, but you think he will be poop "just because"...

What are we supposed to think about your "opinion" at this point?

You're not obligated to think or not think anything.  My opinion is my opinion. 

What you do with it is on you.
Title: Re: *Word on da skreets....*
Post by: War Eagle!!! on December 04, 2009, 01:06:56 PM
You're not obligated to think or not think anything.  My opinion is my opinion. 

What you do with it is on you.

So again...why do you have the opinion that TR is not going to be shit at Auburn? Or do you just say that so I can "I told you so" later on in chance it happens.

I actually respect your opinion. You have shown me that you know far more about football than I originally thought. Most of the time you back up your opinion with support as to why you have formed this opinion. With TR, you haven't. You just said he will never be the man. Why?
Title: Re: *Word on da skreets....*
Post by: Godfather on December 04, 2009, 01:07:59 PM
As do you.

Why are you thinking he will never be the man? What has he done? What have you seen? What have you heard?

You make this claim based on what? Your opinion?
I am actually curious what makes you say that, what college game did you see him play?

Seriously though, care to elaborate K? (you have probably stated before and I missed it)
Title: Re: *Word on da skreets....*
Post by: jadennis on December 04, 2009, 01:13:02 PM
K I do have to say it's a fairly safe opinion.  If you play the odds, most QBs don't end up "the man".  Most teams are struggling through with an adequate (read that to mean "disappointing to the fans") QB.  How often does any team feature a "knock your socks off" QB?  Rarely.  The rest of the time everyone is making due with Jordan Jeffersons and Joe Coxs and Jevan Sneads and Greg McElroys.  Hell even LSU and Georgia struggled with first round NFL draft picks behind center.

Add to that the fact that people were excited to get Rollison and expect him to do well, and well, you're opinion isn't so much based on anything other than the odds along with your lean towards pessimism.  (you're probably saying "duh" so far).

However, keep in mind that Chris Todd just set a lot of QB records at Auburn.  Rollison may only need to be Jordan Jefferson-esqe or Chris Leak-like in order to lead our offense to great things.  He may not need to be the rare Vince Young, Tim Tebow, or Pat White in order to meet expectations.  I for one am not expecting him to be a Heisman candidtate.  I am expecting him to help us win games.  

I think it was Coleman who was extremely impressed with him during pre-season scrimmages.  He said he was calm and confident and ran the offense like a veteran.  For a senior defensive player to have that praise for a true freshman was encouraging to me.
Title: Re: *Word on da skreets....*
Post by: Godfather on December 04, 2009, 01:19:46 PM
K I do have to say it's a fairly safe opinion.  If you play the odds, most QBs don't end up "the man".  Most teams are struggling through with an adequate (read that to mean "disappointing to the fans") QB.  How often does any team feature a "knock your socks off" QB?  Rarely.  The rest of the time everyone is making due with Jordan Jeffersons and Joe Coxs and Jevan Sneads and Greg McElroys.  Hell even LSU and Georgia struggled with first round NFL draft picks behind center.

Add to that the fact that people were excited to get Rollison and expect him to do well, and well, you're opinion isn't so much based on anything other than the odds along with your lean towards pessimism.  (you're probably saying "duh" so far).

However, keep in mind that Chris Todd just set a lot of QB records at Auburn.  Rollison may only need to be Jordan Jefferson-esqe or Chris Leak-like in order to lead our offense to great things.  He may not need to be the rare Vince Young, Tim Tebow, or Pat White in order to meet expectations.  I for one am not expecting him to be a Heisman candidtate.  I am expecting him to help us win games.  

I think it was Coleman who was extremely impressed with him during pre-season scrimmages.  He said he was calm and confident and ran the offense like a veteran.  For a senior defensive player to have that praise for a true freshman was encouraging to me.
Hell I'll settle for he looks a little like this...(http://www.mmbolding.com/bowls/Independence963.jpg)
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Post by: Saniflush on December 04, 2009, 01:22:08 PM
Hell I'll settle for he looks a little like this...(http://www.mmbolding.com/bowls/Independence963.jpg)

It moved again.
Title: Re: *Word on da skreets....*
Post by: jadennis on December 04, 2009, 01:24:04 PM
Hell I'll settle for he looks a little like this...(http://www.mmbolding.com/bowls/Independence963.jpg)

I'm guessing everyone is experiencing a little movement.

Think of him in this offense.  Damn.

Kaos hates it, but we'll just have to wait and see if Rollison is Craig or if he's Burns.

Title: Re: *Word on da skreets....*
Post by: War Eagle!!! on December 04, 2009, 01:24:54 PM
I am actually curious what makes you say that, what college game did you see him play?

Seriously though, care to elaborate K? (you have probably stated before and I missed it)

Are you asking my opinion or Kaos'?
Title: Re: *Word on da skreets....*
Post by: Godfather on December 04, 2009, 01:25:50 PM
Are you asking my opinion or Kaos'?
Kaos

..sorry...forgot I was quoting you, I can see the confusion.  No I thought they were good questions I wanted to know what Kaos thought.  Is this a gut reaction thing or has he seen TR play?
Title: Re: *Word on da skreets....*
Post by: War Eagle!!! on December 04, 2009, 01:32:19 PM
Kaos

..sorry...forgot I was quoting you, I can see the confusion.  No I thought they were good questions I wanted to know what Kaos thought.  Is this a gut reaction thing or has he seen TR play?

Based on everything he has said...it is a gut reaction based on nothing. He has never seen the kid play which is why I asked the question of why in the fuck do you have this opinion of him. It's cool if you have an opinion of him based on something you have seen or heard. It's not cool if you have this opinion just because you think it's the cool thing to do...
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Post by: jadennis on December 04, 2009, 01:36:21 PM
I've seen him play once.  He led Sulphur Springs to the state title here in Texas.  I saw one of his games on TV.

Here are two videos.  Check the 1:10 mark of the first one...love that he escaped from about 5 guys and still found a receiver open down field (didn't just tuck it and run).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exhby9fvF_A# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exhby9fvF_A#)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlOLXvTHHhY# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlOLXvTHHhY#)
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Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on December 04, 2009, 01:37:26 PM
I think it was Coleman who was extremely impressed with him during pre-season scrimmages.  He said he was calm and confident and ran the offense like a veteran.  For a senior defensive player to have that praise for a true freshman was encouraging to me.

This was also the feeling from several veteran players about Barret Trotter.   I know I turned to several people during games this year, and while watching this offense and pointed out how deadly a cog in this offensive machine, a true dual threat QB would be.  

The Craig comparisons are spot on, but if TR can do it between the ears as well and be able to throw the ball accurately (as it's been reported by many as true), this offense just became that much MORE dangerous.

Should be exciting if executed and coached right!
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Post by: AUChizad on December 04, 2009, 01:44:11 PM
love that he escaped from about 5 guys and still found a receiver open down field (didn't just tuck it and run).
And he ain't too bad at tuckin' and runnin' either...
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Post by: Saniflush on December 04, 2009, 01:46:43 PM
And he ain't too bad at tuckin' and runnin' either...

He better be good at getting back in the good graces of the coaching staff and team.
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Post by: RWS on December 04, 2009, 01:51:46 PM
I've seen him play once.  He led Sulphur Springs to the state title here in Texas.  I saw one of his games on TV.

Here are two videos.  Check the 1:10 mark of the first one...love that he escaped from about 5 guys and still found a receiver open down field (didn't just tuck it and run).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exhby9fvF_A# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exhby9fvF_A#)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlOLXvTHHhY# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlOLXvTHHhY#)
I could show you some pretty cool videos of Kodi Burns in high school.
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Post by: jadennis on December 04, 2009, 02:00:30 PM
I could show you some pretty cool videos of Kodi Burns in high school.

Knowing something along these lines was coming (and is true) is exactly why I already said we'll have to wait and see if he's Craig or Burns.  There's no way to know.

But there are things you can see.  You can see arm strength.  You can see athletic ability.  You can see that he wants to make the throw first and not take off just for the sake of running. 

All I'm saying is there is a reason he was the #9 recruit in Texas and the #2 dual-threat QB according to Rivals.  Sure, they're wrong sometimes, but they're right a lot too.  This isn't a "diamond in the rough" recruit.



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Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on December 04, 2009, 02:06:57 PM
I could show you some pretty cool videos of Kodi Burns in high school.

I can also show you evidence of a QB that hasn't had any significant coaching at the position going into this year also.

This doesn't prove much.  I can't be for certain, but I feel confident to say that even though he may never have been all that and a bag of chips, with a couple years of consistent coaching, he might be better than he is today.

True?
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Post by: War Eagle!!! on December 04, 2009, 03:15:08 PM
I could show you some pretty cool videos of Kodi Burns in high school.

I have no clue...but I would highly doubt that Kodi won a state championship his Senior year of High School while throwing for 4800 yards and 51 TD's and rushing for over 1000 yards with another 12 TD's on the ground...all while COMPLETING OVER 70% OF HIS FUCKING PASSES!!! 70 MOTHER FUCKING PERCENT!!!!!

That is why I think he will be a stud. Dude just doesn't have a cannon...he is a very accurate passer. He did that in 4A ball in Texas which is plays some damn good football.

He made more plays in the state championship game to fill a highlite reel himself. With just that game. If you can watch the Rivals video of just that game you would be damn impressed...well, if you weren't a flaming douche...
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Post by: JR4AU on December 04, 2009, 03:18:16 PM
I've seen him play once.  He led Sulphur Springs to the state title here in Texas.  I saw one of his games on TV.

Here are two videos.  Check the 1:10 mark of the first one...love that he escaped from about 5 guys and still found a receiver open down field (didn't just tuck it and run).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exhby9fvF_A# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exhby9fvF_A#)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlOLXvTHHhY# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlOLXvTHHhY#)

I'm not going to agree or disagree with Kaos, but must offer my opinion here.  What he did in HS means exactly jack fucking shit!  This is college, a step up...D-1, a huge step up...SEC, a fucking major flying leap in the the stratosphere up from HS. Will he or won't he make it?  Statistically speaking QB has the greatest failure rate (subjective of course) of any position.  Then again about 1/3 of all these highly touted players never make it at any position.  Auburn currently has 2 players that on NSD were Rivals 4 star QBs.  Kodi Burns, and Neil Caudle.  I think Brandon Cox was a 4 star as well, as was Jason Campbell.  That's one that had one great year, one that was pretty good for a couple of years, and 2 that have done exactly jack shit at the QB position.   Kaos, while a bit jaded at times, has a pretty fair chance of being dead nuts on if he predicts ever stinkin' QB Auburn ever signs to be a flop.  Fact is he's likely to be right about 75% of the time if he just guesses.
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Post by: jadennis on December 04, 2009, 04:16:58 PM
I'm not going to agree or disagree with Kaos, but must offer my opinion here.  What he did in HS means exactly jack phuking poop!  This is college, a step up...D-1, a huge step up...SEC, a phuking major flying leap in the the stratosphere up from HS. Will he or won't he make it?  Statistically speaking QB has the greatest failure rate (subjective of course) of any position.  Then again about 1/3 of all these highly touted players never make it at any position.  Auburn currently has 2 players that on NSD were Rivals 4 star QBs.  Kodi Burns, and Neil Caudle.  I think Brandon Cox was a 4 star as well, as was Jason Campbell.  That's one that had one great year, one that was pretty good for a couple of years, and 2 that have done exactly jack poop at the QB position.   Kaos, while a bit jaded at times, has a pretty fair chance of being dead nuts on if he predicts ever stinkin' QB Auburn ever signs to be a flop.  Fact is he's likely to be right about 75% of the time if he just guesses.

See my version (from two hours ago) of your post pasted below.  :)

K I do have to say it's a fairly safe opinion.  If you play the odds, most QBs don't end up "the man".  Most teams are struggling through with an adequate (read that to mean "disappointing to the fans") QB.  How often does any team feature a "knock your socks off" QB?  Rarely.  The rest of the time everyone is making due with Jordan Jeffersons and Joe Coxs and Jevan Sneads and Greg McElroys.  Hell even LSU and Georgia struggled with first round NFL draft picks behind center.

Add to that the fact that people were excited to get Rollison and expect him to do well, and well, you're opinion isn't so much based on anything other than the odds along with your lean towards pessimism.  (you're probably saying "duh" so far).

However, keep in mind that Chris Todd just set a lot of QB records at Auburn.  Rollison may only need to be Jordan Jefferson-esqe or Chris Leak-like in order to lead our offense to great things.  He may not need to be the rare Vince Young, Tim Tebow, or Pat White in order to meet expectations.  I for one am not expecting him to be a Heisman candidtate.  I am expecting him to help us win games.  

I think it was Coleman who was extremely impressed with him during pre-season scrimmages.  He said he was calm and confident and ran the offense like a veteran.  For a senior defensive player to have that praise for a true freshman was encouraging to me.

You're right that his high school videos don't mean much.  But to write him off for no other reason than the odds is kind of pointless I say.  It's not even really an opinion, it's just stating the facts about the inherent risk in guessing on QBs.  Typically you would state those facts and then give some sort of opinion on top of that. 

It's almost like saying a particular small business is likely to fail simply because the stats say most do, but not offering any other support for that statement.  Kaos usually demands more than that from opinion, which is why I think he's taking heat for his on this issue.  He's stated the small business of Rollison and Sons is likely to fail simply because the SBA publishes statistics saying it's likely.  Well, that's not really an opinion to me. 

Not that he cares what's what to me, which is kind of the genius behind his non-opinion.  :)
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Post by: Kaos on December 04, 2009, 04:20:42 PM
So again...why do you have the opinion that TR is not going to be poop at Auburn? Or do you just say that so I can "I told you so" later on in chance it happens.

I actually respect your opinion. You have shown me that you know far more about football than I originally thought. Most of the time you back up your opinion with support as to why you have formed this opinion. With TR, you haven't. You just said he will never be the man. Why?

I don't really know why.  It's just one of those things I know.  Or think I know. 

I've never seen a minute of film on him.   I wouldn't know him if he walked in my front door and handed me a chocolate chip cookie.  The one time I laid eyes on him, all I could see was his back. 

This is just a case of spidey sense tingling.  I don't care about "told you so's"  (except in instances were people who are often comically wrong about things try to act as if I don't have a clue and then I don't pound on  it).
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Post by: Kaos on December 04, 2009, 04:26:36 PM
Knowing something along these lines was coming (and is true) is exactly why I already said we'll have to wait and see if he's Craig or Burns.  There's no way to know.

But there are things you can see.  You can see arm strength.  You can see athletic ability.  You can see that he wants to make the throw first and not take off just for the sake of running. 

All I'm saying is there is a reason he was the #9 recruit in Texas and the #2 dual-threat QB according to Rivals.  Sure, they're wrong sometimes, but they're right a lot too.  This isn't a "diamond in the rough" recruit.





Two words:

Vince Sutton. 

I played softball with Vince.  I've never seen any human being with an arm like he had.  He was fast, agile, racked up stars and accolades in high school.  How'd his college career work out? 

I have no intel on Rollison. I don't know anything.  I'm just saying what I'm saying because my instincts tell me it is true.  I don't care about having the "cool" opinion or being a downer or whatever.  Dameyune I was excited about. But if you remember he was ALL Auburn had.  He could win games, but he could also lose them.  Mississippi State comes to mind. 
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Post by: Godfather on December 04, 2009, 04:28:12 PM

I've never seen a minute of film on him.   I wouldn't know him if he walked in my front door and handed me a chocolate chip cookie. 

Yes but your decision may change depending on how the cookie was handed to you.  Was it a straight hand off? Or did he option it to you? Did he bobble the cookie snap? All of these are valid concerns....gimme something...anything.
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Post by: jadennis on December 04, 2009, 04:28:21 PM
I don't really know why.  It's just one of those things I know.  Or think I know. 

I've never seen a minute of film on him.   I wouldn't know him if he walked in my front door and handed me a chocolate chip cookie.  The one time I laid eyes on him, all I could see was his back. 

This is just a case of spidey sense tingling.  I don't care about "told you so's"  (except in instances were people who are often comically wrong about things try to act as if I don't have a clue and then I don't pound on  it).

As mystical as it is, at least it's the reason behind your opinion.  Let's hope that tingling is just whatever you had for lunch and nothing more.  We need him to be at least consistently adequate and serviceable for Malzahn's offense.  If he is, the offense could be better, or at least more consistent.  Add a little consistency to the mix this year and we'd likely have been something around 9-3 to 11-1.  
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Post by: Kaos on December 04, 2009, 04:30:19 PM
As mystical as it is, at least it's the reason behind your opinion.  Let's hope that tingling is just whatever you had for lunch and nothing more.  We need him to be at least consistently adequate and serviceable for Malzahn's offense.  If he is, the offense could be better, or at least more consistent.  Add a little consistency to the mix this year and we'd likely have been something around 9-3 to 11-1.  

I've had the tingle since the day he was signed.  I was all, like... meh. 

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Post by: Buzz Killington on December 04, 2009, 04:32:00 PM
Yes but your decision may change depending on how the cookie was handed to you.  Was it a straight hand off? Or did he option it to you? Did he bobble the cookie snap? All of these are valid concerns....gimme something...anything.

If it was on a reverse pass, would that make Kaos the #2 QB?
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Post by: Godfather on December 04, 2009, 04:32:48 PM
He could win games, but he could also lose them.  Mississippi State comes to mind. 
As does several Florida games...of course it wasn't much help with a 110 pound running back. Defense kinda knew what we were doing....EVERY DOWN.
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Post by: Godfather on December 04, 2009, 04:33:57 PM
If it was on a reverse pass, would that make Kaos the #2 QB?
I thought it made him the blocking back?
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Post by: JR4AU on December 04, 2009, 04:35:01 PM
See my version (from two hours ago) of your post pasted below.  :)

You're right that his high school videos don't mean much.  But to write him off for no other reason than the odds is kind of pointless I say.  It's not even really an opinion, it's just stating the facts about the inherent risk in guessing on QBs.  Typically you would state those facts and then give some sort of opinion on top of that. 

It's almost like saying a particular small business is likely to fail simply because the stats say most do, but not offering any other support for that statement.  Kaos usually demands more than that from opinion, which is why I think he's taking heat for his on this issue.  He's stated the small business of Rollison and Sons is likely to fail simply because the SBA publishes statistics saying it's likely.  Well, that's not really an opinion to me. 

Not that he cares what's what to me, which is kind of the genius behind his non-opinion.  :)

FWIW, my spidey sense tells me different than Kaos'.  But mine, to my knowledge, is no better than his, it's just mine.  
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Post by: jadennis on December 04, 2009, 04:37:32 PM
I've had the tingle since the day he was signed.  I was all, like... meh. 



Could be colon cancer.  

Personally I think it was the "anti" in you.  A lot of people that annoy you probably talked about him being the next whatever that leads us to 3 national titles.  And to that you probably thought "na, not feelin it".

But take away those people and that kind of hype....could he be a decent QB for us and help us win?  Not sure how you can have an instinct in regards to that while admitting to knowing as much about has abilities as you know about mine, none.  For human beings, instinct comes into play when surviving is on the line, otherwise we are run by reason, even if subconscious reason or subconscious reaction based on experience.  No matter what it is, if you have accumulated absolutely no information with which to form the opinion, then that instinct is really a reaction to something else....either a reaction to your experience or a reaction to other people's opinions...something.

The tingle?  I'm thinking your C5 is misaligned.  
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Post by: AUChizad on December 04, 2009, 04:38:22 PM
I've had the tingle since the day he was signed.  I was all, like... meh. 


It's because Chizik signed him. To you, especially at the time in which he signed, anything and everything Chizik played any role whatsoever in is total and utter worthless shit.

That and your opinion you stated at the time that we're "wasting our time" on recruiting worthless Texas QBs...
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Post by: jadennis on December 04, 2009, 04:40:03 PM
FWIW, my spidey sense tells me different than Kaos'.  But mine, to my knowledge, is no better than his, it's just mine.  

My spidey sense didn't see James Willis going to the dark side, so I haven't trusted it for a while.
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Post by: djsimp on December 04, 2009, 04:41:31 PM
........my cousins friends uncle lives next to a guy that is room mates with a former Auburn student who received a letter in the mail that said Tyrik Rollison got suspended for smoking weed.
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Post by: Godfather on December 04, 2009, 04:43:22 PM
........my cousins friends uncle lives next to a guy that is room mates with a former Auburn student who received a letter in the mail that said Tyrik Rollison got suspended for smoking weed.
You misread that letter, it said that they saw him at 31 flavors last night.
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Post by: JR4AU on December 04, 2009, 04:43:55 PM
My spidey sense didn't see James Willis going to the dark side, so I haven't trusted it for a while.

I often confuse mine with my hopes and dreams...so there's that too.
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Post by: Kaos on December 04, 2009, 04:50:47 PM
It's because Chizik signed him. To you, especially at the time in which he signed, anything and everything Chizik played any role whatsoever in is total and utter worthless poop.

That and your opinion you stated at the time that we're "wasting our time" on recruiting worthless Texas QBs...

I'm changing your name to Miss Construe.
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Post by: jadennis on December 04, 2009, 05:01:21 PM
It's because Chizik signed him. To you, especially at the time in which he signed, anything and everything Chizik played any role whatsoever in is total and utter worthless poop.

That and your opinion you stated at the time that we're "wasting our time" on recruiting worthless Texas QBs...

I was looking at this the other day...

Rivals does their position power rankings, and I was perusing them, and noticed a common theme...Texas born players that didn't play for BCS Texas teams kept popping up (in the top 25 in the nation at their position).

Quarterback...Ryan Mallett (Arkansas), Andrew Luck (Stanford), Case Keenum (Houston), Andy Dalton (TCU).
Running Back...LaMichael James (Oregon), Quizz Rogers (Oregon State), Donald Buckram (UTEP), Keith Toston (Oklahoma State).
Receiver...Denario Alexander (Missouri), Dezmon Briscoe (Kansas), Keith Smith (Purdue), James Rogers (Oregon State), Bradon LaFell (LSU), James Cleveland (Houston).
Offensive Line...Russell Okung (Oklahoma State), Jason Fox (Miami), Marshall Newhouse (TCU), Trent Williams (Oklahoma), Ciron Black (LSU).
Defensive Line...Jerry Hughes (TCU), Jeremy Beal (Oklahoma).
Linebacker...Sean Weatherspoon (Missouri), Travis Lewis (Oklahoma), Daryl Washington (TCU).
Defensive Back...Perrish Cox (Oklahoma State), Trevin Wade (Arizona).
Special Teams...Jeremy Kerley (TCU), Tyron Carrier (Houston).

That's 28 kids that are ranked in the top 25 at their position in the entire country (or about 12% of the entire Top 25 list of all positions).  So more than one in ten of the top 225 players in the country are kids from Texas that do not go to a Texas BCS school.  Another 11 stayed in Texas (7 at Texas, 3 at A&M, and 1 at Texas Tech).

That's why we need to hold on to our ties out there.  It's worth fishing a few guys out of there every year.

By the way, I'm not from Texas.
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Post by: The Prowler on December 04, 2009, 06:58:23 PM
Funny. 

This is one of the top ten most ridiculous replies I've ever seen. 

I don't care if he goes to Dillburg Tech and sets 400 kabillion NCAA records and is drafted into the NFL Hall of Fame despite never playing a snap in the league.  That has no bearing on anything. 

All I'm saying is that this guy will never be the QB at Auburn most of you have set him up to be.  That's my opinion -- and like most of mine -- you will see it come to fruition in the coming years.  Not recruiting a QB this season is an epic fail. 
LMAO!!!!  "I just got this tingle feeling that he's not going to be all that...I've never seen any games, highlights, practices, or even met him...I just don't think he'll amount to anything...."
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Post by: RWS on December 05, 2009, 09:39:30 AM
I can also show you evidence of a QB that hasn't had any significant coaching at the position going into this year also.
I really don't think you have one way or another to show that to anybody, other than since he wasn't the starter for half the season last year, then that equals he received absolutely no coaching at all. I bet he was told to just go play Wii while Todd got all the reps these past two seasons. I even gave Burns the benefit of the doubt and said previously that he should improve under Malzahn. I think Malzahn is a pretty good QB coach, so I figured Burns would improve. But, apparently he hasn't if he went from 2nd string last year to WR this year. At some point you just have to admit the kid doesn't have what it takes to play QB in the SEC. Hell of an athlete, though. Or, you can just go ahead and keep making excuses for him the rest of his career. Whatever makes you sleep better at night, I suppose.
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Post by: Kaos on December 05, 2009, 10:07:54 AM
LMAO!!!!  "I just got this tingle feeling that he's not going to be all that...I've never seen any games, highlights, practices, or even met him...I just don't think he'll amount to anything...."

My intuition is twenty times better than your "inside" information.
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Post by: The Prowler on December 05, 2009, 02:53:23 PM
My intuition is twenty times better than your "inside" information.
                                               :haha: