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Title: New Polls Are Out...
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on September 27, 2009, 12:52:10 PM
Still Not Ranked....   Ole Miss took a nose dive, as did Miami....   Fuck the ALL HYPE world of the polls that have defined this year so far.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/rankings (http://espn.go.com/college-football/rankings)
Title: Re: New Polls Are Out...
Post by: Jumbo on September 27, 2009, 01:52:38 PM
We should be ranked in the top 25, the polls are a bunch of shit. Cal lost by 39 at home to an unranked team?
Title: Re: New Polls Are Out...
Post by: ssgaufan on September 27, 2009, 02:22:23 PM
Miami went from unranked all the way to 9th in two weeks.  I undrestand that they beat two ranked teams, but why the hell aren't we getting any love?
Title: Re: New Polls Are Out...
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on September 27, 2009, 02:27:34 PM
Miami went from unranked all the way to 9th in two weeks.  I undrestand that they beat two ranked teams, but why the hell aren't we getting any love?

You want to see an example of how much bullshit this years polls are worth?  See Washington Huskies.
Title: Re: New Polls Are Out...
Post by: Jumbo on September 27, 2009, 03:01:23 PM
Lsu at #4 is a crock of shit.
Title: Re: New Polls Are Out...
Post by: RWS on September 27, 2009, 03:27:02 PM
Miami went from unranked all the way to 9th in two weeks.  I undrestand that they beat two ranked teams, but why the hell aren't we getting any love?
AU hasn't played anybody yet and should be ranked, but Miami didn't deserve any love for beating two ranked teams? I think if AU beats UT, you guys should at least move to #22. UT has no offense, but has a stout defense. So far I've been fairly impressed with AU's offense, and in all honesty, I was wrong about some of my thoughts preseason. If you guys cut through UT offensively, that will be pretty damn impressive. Right now their defense is #8 in the nation. This will be a good indicator how this offense will do during SEC play. 
Title: Re: New Polls Are Out...
Post by: djsimp on September 27, 2009, 03:55:07 PM
Well I certainly think Auburn should be in the Top 25 but if Auburn beats the Vols, like RWS has already stated, we will be. Auburn didnt come out playing too well at first, which may of hurt us in rankings. The whole team seemed underwhelmed until the coaches chewed their asses out on the sidelines. The D sure was having some troubles at times. So what is the status of the injuries?
Title: Re: New Polls Are Out...
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 27, 2009, 04:56:42 PM
Yes, they should be ranked.  Regardless of how they've looked in periods of a game, they've handled their business and handled it well.  They are an undefeated SEC team that is one of the top scorig offenses in the country.  Auburn may get beat by the Viles this week but right now, they deserve to be in the top 25. 
Title: Re: New Polls Are Out...
Post by: Godfather on September 27, 2009, 05:06:59 PM
AU hasn't played anybody yet and should be ranked, but Miami didn't deserve any love for beating two ranked teams? I think if AU beats UT, you guys should at least move to #22. UT has no offense, but has a stout defense. So far I've been fairly impressed with AU's offense, and in all honesty, I was wrong about some of my thoughts preseason. If you guys cut through UT offensively, that will be pretty damn impressive. Right now their defense is #8 in the nation. This will be a good indicator how this offense will do during SEC play. 
and you've played one ranked team and deserve to be #3?  To be quite honest I don't really care where we are ranked,  IMO the rankings only matter if you are going to make it to the MNC and we don't have the depth for that yet.  However, I still think that Auburn should be ranked, there are a ton of teams that haven't played anyone and are still ranked.  It just proves to me what a joke it is.
Title: Re: New Polls Are Out...
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on September 27, 2009, 05:53:27 PM
We can do all the Bama Auburn comparisons, and talk about how much bullshit it is that Bama is where they are, but just like Bama is at #3, it's because of preseason nothing, and an educated guess from last year.  Auburn's not in because nobody knows shit about them yet, and with a new coaching staff and being miserable last year, nobody looked into it enough to realize we still had most of the same players that beat Tebow two years ago and was predicted to win the west just LAST year.

It's just typical shit.  It also doesn't have to do shit with somebody looking at our game and evalutating anything.  These writers get only hours to rank all the teams and vote...  You can't tell me that writers in different parts of the country that don't know shit about Auburn anyway have any clue on how, who or with what we've played this year. 

It'll only change when and IFFF we beat Tennessee next week, and that might only because they've been honking the Monte Kiffen bobo for weeks and Kiffen's mouth keeps his name in the ESPN headlines.

We win impressively at TN and then Arkansas, we'll be top 15 before we get back to play Kentucky.  THAT will only because the networks and media will start to pimp the LSU games and the Alabama games, not because we should or shouldn't be ranked that high.

It's going to take YEARS of sustained success to be given a top 25 start every year like before. 

JMO.....
Title: Re: New Polls Are Out...
Post by: Pell City Tiger on September 27, 2009, 06:08:29 PM
CFN has us at #5.
Title: Re: New Polls Are Out...
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on September 27, 2009, 06:09:45 PM
CFN has us at #5.

Yeah, what the fuck do they know.  I mean, they only watch us and see that our defense and offense are good enough to win ball games. pfffffthehheeee





:sarcasm:
Title: Re: New Polls Are Out...
Post by: jadennis on September 27, 2009, 06:15:34 PM
I think its still early to worry about it.  We just aren't used to being in this position....on the outside working our way in.  Remember last year...we were #10 when faced LSU, and why?  We looked completely lost on offense up to that game and were living off of preseason expectations.  I point that out to remind everyone that we've been on the other side of this too.

Give it until the LSU game.  If we beat Tennessee, they will be 2-3.  If we beat Arkansas, they will be 2-3.  The Corndogs will be the first "respected" team we face.  After we beat their sorry asses, then check the polls.
Title: Re: New Polls Are Out...
Post by: RWS on September 27, 2009, 06:51:49 PM
I think its still early to worry about it.  We just aren't used to being in this position....on the outside working our way in.  Remember last year...we were #10 when faced LSU, and why?  We looked completely lost on offense up to that game and were living off of preseason expectations.  I point that out to remind everyone that we've been on the other side of this too.

Give it until the LSU game.  If we beat Tennessee, they will be 2-3.  If we beat Arkansas, they will be 2-3.  The Corndogs will be the first "respected" team we face.  After we beat their sorry asses, then check the polls.
As odd as it sounds, I think AU would gain more respect by beating an unranked UT team than LSU. I know LSU is highly ranked, and all of this, but lets be serious here. Last year's LSU team was teh suck. This year's team isn't any better. I mean, having to make a goalline stand against MSU and winning only because of a horrible play call by MSU? You wanna talk about teams that don't deserve to be ranked as highly as they are, LSU is squarely in that discussion. UT has a fucking stout defense. Not all that strong on offense, but can't argue with that defense. If they had an offense, they would have beat UF. Plain and simple. Maybe I'm crazy, but from a respect standpoint, I think a win against UT is better than a win against an overranked waiting to be exposed LSU team.
Title: Re: New Polls Are Out...
Post by: wesfau2 on September 27, 2009, 07:02:37 PM
As odd as it sounds, I think AU would gain more respect by beating an unranked UT team than LSU. I know LSU is highly ranked, and all of this, but lets be serious here. Last year's LSU team was teh suck. This year's team isn't any better. I mean, having to make a goalline stand against MSU and winning only because of a horrible play call by MSU? You wanna talk about teams that don't deserve to be ranked as highly as they are, LSU is squarely in that discussion. UT has a fucking stout defense. Not all that strong on offense, but can't argue with that defense. If they had an offense, they would have beat UF. Plain and simple. Maybe I'm crazy, but from a respect standpoint, I think a win against UT is better than a win against an overranked waiting to be exposed LSU team.

You're an idiot.
Title: Re: New Polls Are Out...
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on September 27, 2009, 07:06:36 PM
You're an idiot.

Agreed.  Sorry, RWS, but the polls, and the pollsters this year are proving to be the most oblivious, banking on old history, what's seen on the surface only fuckers ever right now. 

I want a piece of the higher ranked team.  Period.  Especially if we feel we got a shot at winning, or being competitive.
Title: Re: New Polls Are Out...
Post by: The Prowler on September 27, 2009, 07:17:18 PM
As odd as it sounds, I think AU would gain more respect by beating an unranked UT team than LSU. I know LSU is highly ranked, and all of this, but lets be serious here. Last year's LSU team was teh suck. This year's team isn't any better. I mean, having to make a goalline stand against MSU and winning only because of a horrible play call by MSU? You wanna talk about teams that don't deserve to be ranked as highly as they are, LSU is squarely in that discussion. UT has a fucking stout defense. Not all that strong on offense, but can't argue with that defense. If they had an offense, they would have beat UF. Plain and simple. Maybe I'm crazy, but from a respect standpoint, I think a win against UT is better than a win against an overranked waiting to be exposed LSU team.
I think you're correct....right now.  Look at LSU's schedule before Auburn comes rollin' in.
@ UGA - W
Florida - W/L (depending on if Tebow is avalable)
bye.

There's a chance that they'll be undefeated when Auburn comes to town.  If that's the case, ESPN will pimp the hell outta LSU.  If Auburn is able to get by UT, Ark., then UK (This game scares the shit outta me, it's a sandwich game/over look game and it's coming after two away games that'll probably be very physical...then if LSU is able to beat UF, ESPN will pimp the LSU/AU game during the week of the UK game.  Not even the Great HCs can keep his players thinking about the game at hand, every week, especially whenever the players turn on ESPN they hear ALL of the talkin' heads talking about the game the next week.  Again that's if LSU is able to beat UF and Auburn is able to get by UT and Ark.)

But right now, a win over UT will be bigger than a win over LSU
Title: Re: New Polls Are Out...
Post by: RWS on September 27, 2009, 08:05:14 PM
Agreed.  Sorry, RWS, but the polls, and the pollsters this year are proving to be the most oblivious, banking on old history, what's seen on the surface only fuckers ever right now. 

I want a piece of the higher ranked team.  Period.  Especially if we feel we got a shot at winning, or being competitive.
Maybe in the sense of the polls its worth more, but to anybody that knows anything? Again, I think there would be more respect gained by beating UT than LSU. Anybody who thinks LSU will finish this season ranked in the top 10 is delusional. I would be surprised if they finished ranked, really. I honestly think UT is a better team than LSU. How the fuck LSU got ranked so highly in the pre-season, I'll never know. If you're ranked highly pre-season and you back that up during the season (i.e. UF), then fine. But LSU is in no way, shape, or form backing it up. Not even close. They're winning, but they haven't looked good doing it at any point during the season. Even against sub-par competition.
Title: Re: New Polls Are Out...
Post by: RWS on September 27, 2009, 08:07:10 PM
You're an idiot.
If you think LSU is a better team than UT, then you sir, are in fact an idiot. The only reason LSU is where they are is due to a high pre-season ranking. I can't figure out how the fuck that happened in the first place. But, in any event, they are there, and until they lose the pollsters can't justify dropping them.
Title: Re: New Polls Are Out...
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 27, 2009, 08:21:43 PM
I see Georgia handling LSU, especially at home.  There's something not quite right about this LSU club and just like lastyear, they're due to be exposed big time.

If Auburn gets past UT this week, I'll feel good about every game they play up until the Iron Bowl.  Until and if we get our defensive shit straightened out, I won't be optimistic about that game. 
Title: Re: New Polls Are Out...
Post by: wesfau2 on September 27, 2009, 08:50:21 PM
If you think LSU is a better team than UT, then you sir, are in fact an idiot. The only reason LSU is where they are is due to a high pre-season ranking. I can't figure out how the fuck that happened in the first place. But, in any event, they are there, and until they lose the pollsters can't justify dropping them.

If you want to climb the polls, you beat the higher ranked teams.

Beating LSU would do more to boost our poll standing than beating Tennessee.

You remain an idiot.  Respect?  From who?  The only people that matter are the people with votes.
Title: Re: New Polls Are Out...
Post by: jadennis on September 27, 2009, 09:48:04 PM
As odd as it sounds, I think AU would gain more respect by beating an unranked UT team than LSU. I know LSU is highly ranked, and all of this, but lets be serious here. Last year's LSU team was teh suck. This year's team isn't any better. I mean, having to make a goalline stand against MSU and winning only because of a horrible play call by MSU? You wanna talk about teams that don't deserve to be ranked as highly as they are, LSU is squarely in that discussion. UT has a phuking stout defense. Not all that strong on offense, but can't argue with that defense. If they had an offense, they would have beat UF. Plain and simple. Maybe I'm crazy, but from a respect standpoint, I think a win against UT is better than a win against an overranked waiting to be exposed LSU team.

This makes some sense....which is why it makes no sense....we're talking about polls, not reality.

Our life in the polls could be tough if we never get a chance for a signature win.  If LSU loses at Georgia and to Florida, then beating them won't matter much.  By the time we get to Ole Miss, they will likely have at least two losses, possibly three if they lose to Arkansas (who knows?).  Georgia gets LSU, Florida, and Tennessee before we play them

Fact is, we just have to keep winning (duh).  The reality is that the SEC West suddenly looks very winnable, and I don't see any reason why we don't have as good a chance as anyone else.  Auburn and Alabama are honestly the only teams in the West that look any better than the others.

Title: Re: New Polls Are Out...
Post by: AUChizad on September 27, 2009, 10:31:18 PM
AU hasn't played anybody yet and should be ranked, but Miami didn't deserve any love for beating two ranked teams?
"Any" love, or shooting up from unranked to 9th in two weeks?

There's a double standard here, but it isn't the one you're suggesting.

and you've played one ranked team and deserve to be #3?  To be quite honest I don't really care where we are ranked,  IMO the rankings only matter if you are going to make it to the MNC and we don't have the depth for that yet.  However, I still think that Auburn should be ranked, there are a ton of teams that haven't played anyone and are still ranked.  It just proves to me what a joke it is.
I disagree.

A third of the way through the fucking season and not even showing up is complete and utter bullshit.

Third in the country total offense, tied with Florida for first in the SEC?

Blowing out a LaTech team where most of the "experts" said to take them over us because we not only couldn't cover the 10 point (or something like that) spread, but could possibly lose the game.

Blowing MSU's asshole out 49-24. The same team that was literally inches away from beating the then #7, now #4 team in the nation, and by all rationality should have.

Week three, again, many "experts" were advising betting against us and the three point spread. West Virginia was to be our first "true test". Shaky first quarter, but had no problems putting them well away after that.

Now, I'll be the first to admit, this weekend was a sloppy win. Playing our backups is no good excuse, but it's no secret our depth is pathetic. Better to put the scrubs in a game with no real chance of losing than grind our starters out unnecessarily so we HAVE to play their backups down the line. In the end, I'll settle for a sloppy game where we put 54 points on the board, as long as it's not indicative of a trend. Watching the highlights of the game on ESPN, nothing but good things were being said (not that I necessarily agree).

OVER HALF of the Top 25 in each poll has a loss. Fourteen in the USA Today and thirteen in the AP.

Every 4-0 team in the SEC deserves to at least be ranked. And guess what...the other three are...in the Top 4...

We are the third best team in the SEC right now. We should be ranked. LSU, Ole Miss, & Georgia should be behind us.

Which leads me to more directly respond to the post I quoted from Brian.

I think we are the better team than every single team on our schedule, besides bammer. And I don't think they're unbeatable, by any means.

So help me God, if we take the SEC and become the first SEC champion to not get a shot (and win), since...ourselves...I will go fucking Taxi Driver on the AP, USA Today, ESPN, the BCS...everyone's going down...
Title: Re: New Polls Are Out...
Post by: War Eagle!!! on September 27, 2009, 10:44:05 PM
Good post Chad.

If we go undefeated, we will play for a national championship. That means we beat UA and UF and would be only 1 of 2 undefeated teams...with maybe Texas being the other. There would be no one left...besides Boise St...and we would jump them...no doubt...
Title: Re: New Polls Are Out...
Post by: jadennis on September 27, 2009, 11:46:39 PM
This is irritating...

2007, Alabama starts the year unranked.  After a 3-0 start, with wins over Vanderbilt, Western Carolina, and Arkansas, they debut in the AP poll at #16.

I guess Arkansas being a ranked team has something to do with it.  But I think it was due more to Birmingham-style Saban ass licking by the media.

Title: Re: New Polls Are Out...
Post by: Townhallsavoy on September 27, 2009, 11:52:24 PM
I think some voters don't want to admit they were wrong.  Football coaches and media guys are stubborn.  I believe Tim Brando summed it up when he said "Auburn has become the punchline in college football." 

I'll admit, Gene Chizik was an odd hire.  It was handled terribly by our athletic department.  BUT.  Chizik has turned our program around.  Our offense is clicking, and despite a few mishaps on defense, we've made the plays to win the games. 

No wants to admit that last part.  Most people thought we were going to be battling Mississippi St for last place in the SEC.  Well, we're one of four SEC teams that's 4-0.  I think that's enough to be at least #25 in the country. 
Title: Re: New Polls Are Out...
Post by: Townhallsavoy on September 28, 2009, 01:14:17 AM
http://pollspeak.com/pollstalker/pollstalker.php?r=T&s=9&p=18&w=5&t1=9&t2=0&v=0 (http://pollspeak.com/pollstalker/pollstalker.php?r=T&s=9&p=18&w=5&t1=9&t2=0&v=0)
Title: Re: New Polls Are Out...
Post by: AWK on September 28, 2009, 01:35:40 AM
 Kirk Herbstreit      19

 Chris Fowler      18

hahahahaha....
Title: Re: New Polls Are Out...
Post by: AUChizad on September 28, 2009, 09:44:24 AM
War Damn Ray Ratto  of the San Francisco Chronicle!