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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Snaggletiger on September 27, 2009, 10:39:43 AM

Title: And You Called This Because.....?
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 27, 2009, 10:39:43 AM
This may have been discussed elsewhere. If so....I don't care because my take is much more interesting anyway.

When you are up 30-7 with 4th and long in your own territory against a team that you have now taken total control against and rolling towards a 50 point win.....why do you call a fake punt? (Which got McCalebb hurt by the way)

Nothing about the circumstances warranted a fake and to me, it looked pretty damn bush league to do that against an outmanned opponent you're starting to beat down badly. 
Title: Re: And You Called This Because.....?
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on September 27, 2009, 10:48:08 AM
We were all VERY curious about that playcall as well.  It just wasn't necessary for any reason.  Certainly not for scoring purposes, and certainly not for energy purposes at that time.
Title: Re: And You Called This Because.....?
Post by: War Eagle!!! on September 27, 2009, 11:38:47 AM
This may have been discussed elsewhere. If so....I don't care because my take is much more interesting anyway.

When you are up 30-7 with 4th and long in your own territory against a team that you have now taken total control against and rolling towards a 50 point win.....why do you call a fake punt? (Which got McCalebb hurt by the way)

Nothing about the circumstances warranted a fake and to me, it looked pretty damn bush league to do that against an outmanned opponent you're starting to beat down badly. 

Very much agree. Bush league. It is one of the only bad decisions that Chizik has made.

I wanted to hang 70 last night, but I want to do it running our offense, not "trying" to do it by faking punts. That is ridiculous...
Title: Re: And You Called This Because.....?
Post by: Buzz Killington on September 27, 2009, 11:47:10 AM
Unless he makes the tough call at the end of the season, Boulware is going to be the demise of Chizik's Auburn coaching career.
This was the first game I haven't made in person this season, and I was shocked watching him every time they showed Jay on the sidelines.  He just looked completely clueless...which confirms my suspicions.
Title: Re: And You Called This Because.....?
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on September 27, 2009, 12:20:18 PM
A FUNNY approach I've seen from some of the other forums this morning that I've glossed over is that maybe we felt we needed to run the fake to keep our D off the field.  Maybe we were scoring too quickly...

Haha...now THAT's something I'm not used to hearing...
Title: Re: And You Called This Because.....?
Post by: Jumbo on September 27, 2009, 01:56:49 PM
RiverBoat Gambler part 2?
Title: Re: And You Called This Because.....?
Post by: ssgaufan on September 27, 2009, 02:28:47 PM
At least it was against a shitty team, and didn't end up costing us a game.
Title: Re: And You Called This Because.....?
Post by: Pell City Tiger on September 27, 2009, 02:33:35 PM
RiverBoat Gambler part 2?
I heard Tuberville called the play from the parking lot outside of the stadium. Jacobs forgot to ask for him to turn in his headset after firing him. Unnamed sources report laughter was heard coming from a Ford F-150 pickup slinging gravel as it sped away down Donahue.
Title: Re: And You Called This Because.....?
Post by: Buzz Killington on September 27, 2009, 02:43:43 PM
I heard Tuberville called the play from the parking lot outside of the stadium. Jacobs forgot to ask for him to turn in his headset after firing him. Unnamed sources report laughter was heard coming from a Ford F-150 pickup slinging gravel as it sped away down Donahue.

Smells like victree
Title: Re: And You Called This Because.....?
Post by: Townhallsavoy on September 27, 2009, 05:13:40 PM
It was an awful call.  I almost thought it was unintended. 

When I was in high school, we had a red/green option on punts.  "Red, Red" meant punt.  "Green, green" meant fun the fake.  One time against Hoover, our upback accidentally made the call "green, green" when we were on the ten yard line.  He immediately said "shit red! red fuck!" but the ball was already snapped to him and he got creamed by about five Hoover defenders. 

That's what I'm hoping happened. 
Title: Re: And You Called This Because.....?
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 27, 2009, 05:20:35 PM
It was an awful call.  I almost thought it was unintended. 

When I was in high school, we had a red/green option on punts.  "Red, Red" meant punt.  "Green, green" meant fun the fake.  One time against Hoover, our upback accidentally made the call "green, green" when we were on the ten yard line.  He immediately said "shit red! red fuck!" but the ball was already snapped to him and he got creamed by about five Hoover defenders. 

That's what I'm hoping happened. 


I turned red after the play and went Tidefan.  Threw my cap. I cussed.
Title: Re: And You Called This Because.....?
Post by: Pell City Tiger on September 27, 2009, 05:22:10 PM

I turned red after the play and went Tidefan.  Threw my cap. I cussed.
You didn't throw the lawn chair, did you?
Title: Re: And You Called This Because.....?
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 27, 2009, 08:26:42 PM
You didn't throw the lawn chair, did you?

If it was an SEC game, that lawn chair would have taken a severe ass kickin'.

It lucked out.
Title: Re: And You Called This Because.....?
Post by: Buzz Killington on September 28, 2009, 08:41:26 AM
If it was an SEC game, that lawn chair would have taken a severe ass kickin'.

It lucked out.
Preach it Ricky.
Title: Re: And You Called This Because.....?
Post by: djsimp on September 28, 2009, 09:32:58 AM
Unfortunately I was unable to watch the game due to moving and no cable switch over the weekend, but I did listen to it. Stan White was just as confuse as the rest of us. It was intentional call, thats what makes even worse. Even if the coaches were "trying" some new wrinkles before the SEC play, it wasnt something that has sat to well with the fans. I seriously dont see that happening again unless it is necessary.
Title: Re: And You Called This Because.....?
Post by: Saniflush on September 28, 2009, 09:36:58 AM
Unfortunately I was unable to watch the game due to moving and no cable switch over the weekend, but I did listen to it. Stan White was just as confuse as the rest of us. It was intentional call, thats what makes even worse. Even if the coaches were "trying" some new wrinkles before the SEC play, it wasnt something that has sat to well with the fans. I seriously dont see that happening again unless it is necessary.

Questionable call at best, but if you are only doing it when necessary then it will not work.
Title: Re: And You Called This Because.....?
Post by: CCTAU on September 28, 2009, 10:29:21 AM
I think it speaks volumes as to where we are right now. I'm not sure Chizik has confidence enough to be able to call that in a game where it is needed. So he tries it here and confirms what he's thinking, "If we REALLY need a fake punt, we're screwed."

Now what he does with this info will be telling. Right now we are horrible on special teams. Special ed like horrible. We used to bitch about how Gran was overworked and our special teams sometimes struggled, but the truth is, we had damn good special teams from a part timer. Now we have a guy who is supposed to be a special teams coach and we suck?

Jay may need to spend a few hours in the wordperfect lab and get his resume updated.
Title: Re: And You Called This Because.....?
Post by: Godfather on September 28, 2009, 10:40:48 AM
Questionable call at best, but if you are only doing it when necessary then it will not work.
I agree the call was stupid, but think about it this way, and what I think Saniflush was getting at as well. 

Yeah it didn't work, but so what. The opposing coaches now have to gameplan for it, does it mean we will ever use it again, who knows.  However, its out there and maybe... one game when we need it....maybe it gives our guys a few seconds to get to the punt returner faster...  maybe.  Just sayin.
Title: Re: And You Called This Because.....?
Post by: Buzz Killington on September 28, 2009, 10:43:56 AM
Now, I may be waaaay off base here, but wouldn't their time be better spent on practicing kickoff coverage than on fake punts? 
Title: Re: And You Called This Because.....?
Post by: Saniflush on September 28, 2009, 11:32:04 AM
Now, I may be waaaay off base here, but wouldn't their time be better spent on practicing kickoff coverage than on fake punts? 

Can Gus coach the special teams as well?
Title: Re: And You Called This Because.....?
Post by: Godfather on September 28, 2009, 11:37:24 AM
Now, I may be waaaay off base here, but wouldn't their time be better spent on practicing kickoff coverage than on fake punts? 
How about catching a punt?
Title: Re: And You Called This Because.....?
Post by: Buzz Killington on September 28, 2009, 11:41:35 AM
Can Gus coach the special teams as well?
His alarm clock could do better than Boulware has done to date.
Title: Re: And You Called This Because.....?
Post by: ibelonginprison on September 28, 2009, 11:56:10 AM
It's only sad because I could do better.

"OK... you, fast guy.  Catch the ball, run the other way. You drop it, no brownies after the game.  Got that, only brownies for winners."
"You, big guy. Block... try not to rip their jersey's off, and if they aren't FACING you, don't push them down then fall on them.  Got that?"

"Got it coach Prison!"

"OK, now go out, and don't fuck up."
Title: Re: And You Called This Because.....?
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 28, 2009, 12:24:54 PM
It's only sad because I could do better.

"OK... you, fast guy.  Catch the ball, run the other way. You drop it, no brownies after the game.  Got that, only brownies for winners."
"You, big guy. Block... try not to rip their jersey's off, and if they aren't FACING you, don't push them down then fall on them.  Got that?"

"Got it coach Prison!"

"OK, now go out, and don't fuck up."

Seems simple enough to me.