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Title: Remember
Post by: Saniflush on September 11, 2009, 08:53:52 AM
today eight years ago and all the feelings you had.  The world in respect to how most Americans view it changed completely.

(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d58/saniflush/9-11WTCfiremen1.jpg)
Title: Re: Remember
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 11, 2009, 09:44:12 AM
Mr. Sheen says it's all a conspiracy.

Question...I think we've talked about this before but...where were you when you found out about the attacks?

I was pulling into the Law School parking lot and listening to, of all things, sports talk radio. John and Barry in Montgomery.  Just as I pulled in, they were going off the air and I remember John Longshore saying something to the effect of just getting word that a plane had hit the WTC.  No more info.  My thought as I got out of the car was there was some crazy pilot error and here was another daily tragedy that we've grown accustomed to in the news.

Walked in school and everyone was gathered around a TV in the library and from that point on...it was a weird, eerie kind of day.  I'll never forget driving home that night and the lines at the gas station and sense of panic everywhere.  I was also real eager to get home.  
Title: Re: Remember
Post by: Saniflush on September 11, 2009, 10:08:32 AM
Was in outside sales based in Birmingham at the time.  Was already on the road to see customers in North Alabama when my oldest brother called me and filled me in.  I rarely listened to the radio while on the road.  Usually did books on tape.  Turned around, headed home, and spent the entire day on the phone and in front of the tv.

Tried to re-enlist in the Corps a week later.  They politely told me to take my old ass home.
Title: Re: Remember
Post by: AWK on September 11, 2009, 10:10:15 AM
Was in outside sales in Birmingham at the time.  Was already on the road to see customers in North Alabama when my oldest brother called me and filled me in.  I rarely listened to the radio while on the road.  Usually did books on tape.  Turned around, headed home, and spent the entire day on the phone and in front of the tv.

Tried to re-enlist in the Corps a week later.  They told me to take my old ass home.
"I thought this was America!!!@$#@, rabble rabble."
Title: Re: Remember
Post by: Saniflush on September 11, 2009, 10:15:37 AM
"I thought this was America!!!@$#@, rabble rabble."

"It'll be like 911 times 100. 91100"
Title: Re: Remember
Post by: Tiger Wench on September 11, 2009, 10:25:45 AM
I was in Aberdeen, Scotland, on business.  It was late in the day, and I was sitting at my desk working when one of my office mates walked in and asked where the World Trade Center was.  I said which one?  There are World Trade Centers in Dallas, and New Orleans and other cities, but the big one is in New York - why was he asking?  He said a plane just flew into the one in New York.  Like Steve, I immediately thought "Oh, what a horrible accident!" and kept working.  About five minutes later, he came back in with a strange look on his face and asked me "Are there two of them?"  It took me a minute to figure out what he was saying, and then I realized that the world had just changed.  I managed to call my parents and they confirmed everything.  I remember hearing my mom’s voice shake.

Someone drove me back to my hotel and I spent the rest of the day in front of the TV.  What most Americans don't realize is that once something is shown live, all replays are then edited to get rid of the most horrible stuff.  So unless you were watching live, most likely you did not see the video footage of people jumping out of the towers.  However, the tabloid media in the UK have no such compunction. It's like they took the worst of the worst and put it on constant repeat.  It was terrible.  I was desperate for information, the internet had crashed, the phone lines weren't working, and all I had was SkyNews and their version of CNN.  And on every channel, people were falling.   I can still to this day close my eyes and see that man and woman falling to their deaths, holding hands, the man's tie fluttering up in the wind.  In the paper the next day, a 24 page, full color special insert of pictures - and the man and woman were on the cover.  

I got very very drunk on Thursday night.

I flew back to London on Friday, not sure if I was going to be able to get home on my regular flight on Saturday.  Everywhere I went in London, people were so kind once they learned I was an American.  I saw the line outside the American Embassy where people were queued up all the way around two blocks to sign the Book of Condolences.  The outpouring of sympathy was at times overwhelming.

I arrived at Gatwick Airport early on Saturday – nine hours ahead of my afternoon flight.  We had been warned that security would be intense, and to expect delays.  I wanted nothing more than to get back home, so I complied with every demand, request and order.  We were searched no less than four times between check in and actually boarding the plane – and I do mean searched – everything short of total nudity.  We opened and reopened our bags.  Sharp-eyed men in uniform with very large guns were everywhere. Papers were checked and checked again.  And no one complained – until we got to the last search line before boarding the plane.  

The passengers for the Houston flight were lined up in the hall, and were patted down one more time before being placed in a glass enclosed holding room prior to boarding.  The line was single file until it got toward the front, where it split into men and women (for pat down purposes).  The line for men was moving much faster than the line for women, because there were three male security guards and only one female.  So these two snotty rich bitches thought they would just continue to stand in line with their husbands until they got to the front and then “Whoops!  My mistake!” and just “slip over” to the front of the women’s line.  

What they did not count on was me being at the front of that line when they got there.  

I had seen what they were doing from the get go, and was not about to tolerate it.  I was stressed, angry, sad, worried, scared and looking for a fight.  So when they sashayed on over to get in front of me, without even an apology, the little security lady tried to say no, but they said “Oh, but we are in first class.”  My comment?  “Too bad.  You knew damn good and well that this line was splitting up and you chose to try and buck the system.  So get to the back of the line and wait your turn like everyone else has been doing for the last hour!”  They stuttered and huffed and “Well, I never!”’d and then one goes “But we are in first class!” and I said “Then ACT LIKE YOU DESERVE TO BE THERE.”  They stormed off, making disparaging comments about me and my parentage… but damned if they didn’t go to the back of the line.  They were the last ones on the plane.  I was in the holding rooms with their husbands, and one of them pointed to me and said something to the other one.  I wonder if it wasn’t something like “That chick has a bigger set of balls than we do…” cause they both sure as hell were whipped.

So we got on board and took off, and it was the most tense flight I have ever been on.  Everyone was incredibly puckered.  If someone had so much as sneezed wrong, they would have been beaten down in an instant.  When the plane finally touched down in Houston ten hours later, we all cheered, clapped and some of us (me) cried.  I cried again when I got out of the concourse and saw Carl.  And I wasn’t the only one happy to be home.

Personally, I am disappointed that we have not bombed that entire section of the world to oblivion.  Those mountains on the border with Pakistan should be nothing more than the world’s largest gravel pit.  And for our so called “Leader” to be kowtowing to those bastards is disgusting.  

Never Forget.
Title: Re: Remember
Post by: Ogre on September 11, 2009, 10:27:54 AM
I was in my Senior year at Auburn, walking from my Intermediate Accounting class over to my 8:00 am Investments class when I overheard a guy in the hallway say something about a plane hitting the WTC.  Like Birdman, I thought it was some crazy pilot error.  

My Investments professor came in to class, told us that class was cancelled and to go home and watch the news.  He was visibly shaken.  I turned on the radio in the car and headed back to the apartment.  As I was turning in I heard the first tower fall.  I ran upstairs and saw the second tower fall on TV.  I woke up my roomate (Thrilla), told him he needed to come see what was going on.  He came out, watched about 2 minutes, scratched is balls, grunted and went back to bed.  I had always suspected that he was a terrorist sympathizer.
Title: Re: Remember
Post by: AWK on September 11, 2009, 10:33:05 AM
I was in my Senior year at Auburn, walking from my Intermediate Accounting class over to my 8:00 am Investments class when I overheard a guy in the hallway say something about a plane hitting the WTC.  Like Birdman, I thought it was some crazy pilot error.  

My Investments professor came in to class, told us that class was cancelled and to go home and watch the news.  He was visibly shaken.  I turned on the radio in the car and headed back to the apartment.  As I was turning in I heard the first tower fall.  I ran upstairs and saw the second tower fall on TV.  I woke up my roomate (Thrilla), told him he needed to come see what was going on.  He came out, watched about 2 minutes, scratched is balls, grunted and went back to bed.  I had always suspected that he was a terrorist sympathizer.
Afghanistan is in Asia.
Title: Re: Remember
Post by: Tiger Wench on September 11, 2009, 10:49:58 AM
Here's one of the best blog commentaries I have read today:

when everyone else was running out, some ran in  (http://lagniappeslair.blogspot.com/2009/09/when-everyone-else-was-running-out-some.html)

You should click over for the pictures if nothing else.
Title: Re: Remember
Post by: Saniflush on September 11, 2009, 10:58:01 AM
Here's one of the best blog commentaries I have read today:

 When everyone ran out, others ran in... (http://lagniappeslair.blogspot.com/2009/09/when-everyone-else-was-running-out-some.html/)

You should click over for the pictures if nothing else.

Link does not work.
Title: Re: Remember
Post by: Tiger Wench on September 11, 2009, 11:04:35 AM
Link does not work.

Fixed it, sorry.  I am teh sux at teh linkies...

Here's one of the best blog commentaries I have read today:

when everyone else was running out, some ran in  (http://lagniappeslair.blogspot.com/2009/09/when-everyone-else-was-running-out-some.html)

You should click over for the pictures if nothing else.
Title: Re: Remember
Post by: Saniflush on September 11, 2009, 11:12:15 AM
Fixed it, sorry.  I am teh sux at teh linkies...


Very nice.


Side note.

The picture to the left with the german shepherd behind the scope is my best freind for the Corps and his dog.  Gonna send it to him right now.  He is not teh best on teh ebays either and will find it humorous that it's being posted by others.
Title: Re: Remember
Post by: Tiger Wench on September 11, 2009, 11:22:40 AM
Very nice.


Side note.

The picture to the left with the german shepherd behind the scope is my best freind for the Corps and his dog.  Gonna send it to him right now.  He is not teh best on teh ebays either and will find it humorous that it's being posted by others.
Too funny - small world!  You would really like this guy's blog - he is a semi-retired cop, retired only because he lost his leg in the line of duty when an old woman hit his motorcycle with her car.  He has a prosthetic, and runs marathons and stuff.  He moonlights for some local police training schools, usually as OpFor, and LOVES GUNS.  Lagniappe, his dog, is a wash-out from K-9 school, and is too cool.  The guy lives in Harper's Ferry and has no use for liberals, anti-gun people, liberals, and liberals...  my kind of American.
Title: Re: Remember
Post by: chinook on September 11, 2009, 11:27:06 AM
watching the 5:30 a.m. news before leaving to work.  @ 5:50-ish they broke the news.  i left to work listening to the radio's coverage of the other 2 crashes.  at work,  i continued listening to the radio throughout the entire day.

(my most vivid memory) while at a job site talking to the foreman,  both of us looked up in a sky of silence and no contrails to be seen.  

Title: Re: Remember
Post by: Tiger Wench on September 11, 2009, 11:28:49 AM
(my most vivid memory) while at a job site talking to the foreman,  both of us looked up in a sky of silence and no contrails to be seen. 
That flight from Gatwick to Houston that I was on was one of the first flights allowed back in. 
Title: Re: Remember
Post by: chinook on September 11, 2009, 11:33:25 AM
That flight from Gatwick to Houston that I was on was one of the first flights allowed back in. 


a friend, who is a delta pilot, was in route to lax or sfo (don't remember) on 9/11.  air traffic control re-routed their flight plan to las vegas for immediate landing. they didn't not tell him why, just land. 
Title: Re: Remember
Post by: CCTAU on September 11, 2009, 11:38:27 AM
 What most Americans don't realize is that once something is shown live, all replays are then edited to get rid of the most horrible stuff.  So unless you were watching live, most likely you did not see the video footage of people jumping out of the towers.  However, the tabloid media in the UK have no such compunction. It's like they took the worst of the worst and put it on constant repeat.  It was terrible.  

"They took all the footage off my T.V.
Said it's too disturbing for you and me
It'll just breed anger that's what the experts say
If it was up to me I'd show it everyday"   - Artist: Worley Darryl - Song: Have You Forgotten?



I saw it live. Working form home and the wife calls me into the other room. We watched it unfold. It needs to be shown every day to every American. It should breed anger. It should remind us that a whole group of people out there hate us and want us dead.
Title: Re: Remember
Post by: AWK on September 11, 2009, 11:52:40 AM
"They took all the footage off my T.V.
Said it's too disturbing for you and me
It'll just breed anger that's what the experts say
If it was up to me I'd show it everyday"   - Artist: Worley Darryl - Song: Have You Forgotten?



I saw it live. Working form home and the wife calls me into the other room. We watched it unfold. It needs to be shown every day to every American. It should breed anger. It should remind us that a whole group of people out there hate us and want us dead.
I don't want this to be a debate, or take anything away from the point of today, but we should not try to breed anger.  That is exactly what extremists do and it solves nothing.
Title: Re: Remember
Post by: wreckingball on September 11, 2009, 12:03:24 PM
I was eating a bowl of delicious cinnamon toast crunch.
Title: Re: Remember
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on September 11, 2009, 12:27:09 PM
I was working with a group of graphic artists putting my ads together for the weeks run in the newspaper.  I worked at the Middle Georgia Newspaper Group at the time, and I remember one of the guys coming in from the breakroom and saying that a plane had hit one of the towers.  A few of us went in to check it out on the TV, and while thinking it was horrible, were more interested in seeing what the tower looked like....  My mom called me at my desk as I left the breakroom, and as we talked, she gasped and said that she just watched a second plane hit the other tower.  Like many others, I told her I loved her, hung up, went to watch and realized we were now at war.

I spent the rest of the day helping get a special edition out, and distributed all over town.  I never left the building for two days.  The paper fed us and offered us places to sleep.  It was an incredible few days for sure.

I was pretty fired up being only two years removed from active duty.  However, because of my knee surgery I was declared unable to re-enlist.

Title: Re: Remember
Post by: Saniflush on September 11, 2009, 12:53:50 PM
I don't want this to be a debate, or take anything away from the point of today, but we should not try to breed anger.  That is exactly what extremists do and it solves nothing.

To late.  My anger toward all the "peace and tolerance" that had been preacched toward this country will not subside. 

I'm just a big meanie I guess.
Title: Re: Remember
Post by: AUTiger1 on September 11, 2009, 01:55:42 PM
I was at home getting ready to go somewhere and the phone started ringing off the hook.  I answered and it was my wife (fiance at the time) and she told me to turn on the TV.  I remember how weird it was driving down the highway to her house and just sitting in front of the TV all day.  When the second tower collapsed, my weird feeling turned into anger. 
Title: Re: Remember
Post by: Buzz Killington on September 11, 2009, 02:30:39 PM
It was amazing, the range of emotions I went through that day.  I was at work when one of my co-workers came running into my office and said "you gotta come see this."  As soon as I got into our large meeting room, they showed the footage of the first plane hitting the building.  First emotion...shock.

After that initial shock went away, the denial started.  I was thinking and saying how horrible an accident that must have been.

Then, as the first reports started coming in suggesting that it could have been terrorism, that denial went to temporary fear.  What's next?  I really thought they were after media attention, and that would be the end of it.

Once the second plane hit the other tower, all of the past emotions festered up into one big ball of hate. 

Later, when it was realized who was behind the attacks, it became very awkward for us, because one of my employees was of Middle-eastern dissent.  The guy was a military veteran, and there honestly aren't too many more patriotic people I have met over the years, but we all kind of went from the sudden hate to really hurting for this guy...thinking about what he may be living through after this happened.
Title: Re: Remember
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 11, 2009, 02:43:08 PM
Most definitely a strange day.  It was just weird making the 2 hour drive home and I kept calling home to make sure everything was alright.  Like I said, every gas station I saw had 20+ cars lined up and people just kind of looked at each other like, WTF is going on?  The rampant specualtion that was coming from every media outlet just made you wonder just what the hell was really going on and what else might be out there.  I just wanted to get my ass home, lock the doors, get my gun and stand guard at the front window.
Title: Re: Remember
Post by: Saniflush on September 11, 2009, 02:48:10 PM
Most definitely a strange day.  It was just weird making the 2 hour drive home and I kept calling home to make sure everything was alright.  Like I said, every gas station I saw had 20+ cars lined up and people just kind of looked at each other like, WTF is going on?  The rampant specualtion that was coming from every media outlet just made you wonder just what the hell was really going on and what else might be out there.  I just wanted to get my ass home, lock the doors, get my gun and stand guard at the front window.

I would be lying if I said I did not immediately pack a bag, load some weapons, and went mentally atleast on "stand by".
Title: Re: Remember
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 11, 2009, 02:56:10 PM
I would be lying if I said I did not immediately pack a bag, load some weapons, and went mentally atleast on "stand by".


I would imagine it's somewhat different for vets.  You guys have been there, done that and know what to expect and how to prepare for it.  I don't imagine my .38 revolver would have done much damage but hey, it's my entire "Arsenal" of weaponry.
Title: Re: Remember
Post by: wreckingball on September 11, 2009, 03:04:34 PM
I just finished my delicious bowl of cinnamon toast crunch and went on about my day.
Title: Re: Remember
Post by: Godfather on September 11, 2009, 03:20:47 PM

I would imagine it's somewhat different for vets.  You guys have been there, done that and know what to expect and how to prepare for it.  I don't imagine my .38 revolver would have done much damage but hey, it's my entire "Arsenal" of weaponry.
We disagree.

Signed,
The Wolverines
Title: Re: Remember
Post by: Tiger Wench on September 11, 2009, 03:34:24 PM
I saw it live. Working form home and the wife calls me into the other room. We watched it unfold. It needs to be shown every day to every American. It should breed anger. It should remind us that a whole group of people out there hate us and want us dead.
Don't get me wrong here.  I think that every morning after the pledge of allegiance, people everywhere should see a picture of those towers burning as a reminder.  i am talking about the people falling.  I cannot get that out of my head, to the point of it being very scary.  I had nightmares about that man and woman for months, and still do occasionally.  Showing those people over and over and over - those people had families that don't need to see those photographs or that footage.  And that was all the bastards in Sky News focused on that day.  Over and Over and Over...
Title: Re: Remember
Post by: wreckingball on September 11, 2009, 03:52:02 PM
Don't get me wrong here.  I think that every morning after the pledge of allegiance, people everywhere should see a picture of those towers burning as a reminder.  i am talking about the people falling.  I cannot get that out of my head, to the point of it being very scary.  I had nightmares about that man and woman for months, and still do occasionally.  Showing those people over and over and over - those people had families that don't need to see those photographs or that footage.  And that was all the bastards in Sky News focused on that day.  Over and Over and Over...

You say the pledge of allegiance every morning?
Title: Re: Remember
Post by: Tiger Wench on September 11, 2009, 04:09:40 PM
You say the pledge of allegiance every morning?
My kids do, in school.  Including the "Under God".  God bless Texas.

But as a nation we should, don't you think?
Title: Re: Remember
Post by: wreckingball on September 11, 2009, 04:34:40 PM
No, don't believe I should have to do anything besides pay taxes and die. That's the good thing about this country, I don't have to do stupid shit like saying the pledge every day.
Title: Re: Remember
Post by: Tiger Wench on September 11, 2009, 04:37:28 PM
No, don't believe I should have to do anything besides pay taxes and die. That's the good thing about this country, I don't have to do stupid shit like saying the pledge every day.
I am not really sure how to respond to that in an adult manner, so I will refrain, but it does tell me all I need to know about you.
Title: Re: Remember
Post by: wreckingball on September 11, 2009, 04:41:35 PM
I am not really sure how to respond to that in an adult manner, so I will refrain, but it does tell me all I need to know about you.

Why should you be adult about anything on TigersX? Nobody else is adult about anything, so quit trying to set new standards
Title: Re: Remember
Post by: Townhallsavoy on September 12, 2009, 09:25:40 AM
I know this is a little late -

I was checking into school my junior year of high school.  I walked into my 1st period Journalism class, and they were all glued to the TV.  All that was known is two planes had hit the towers.  My teacher was one of the most mild mannered ladies you'd ever meet, and she was saying, "I just don't think this was an accident."

I asked my friend John (recruited by Auburn, Alabama, and Clemson, but he decided to do the military thing) what was going on, and he looked at me red faced and said, "We're going to fucking war!" 

It didn't really hit me until they started reporting the Pentagon site and the Pennsylvania site.  Then the towers collapsed. 

All we did in school that day was watch TV. After school, I went to my church which was having a prayer service.  I left early because an "elder" spoke and said, "let's not make any irrational decisions on how to react to this.  Fighting back will only lead to this happening again."  I disagreed and left.  Sat in line at a gas station for 45 minutes.  Went home.  Watched TV until 3am. 

We still played football that Friday.  I've never considered myself a true patriot as I've never had an inkling to serve in the military.  However, when our coach gave us the pregame speech about how our country was turned upside down and everything else entertainment wise was cancelled, I got tears.  Not to be corny, but high school football in Alabama was the only thing going on to keep people's mind off of terrorism. 
Title: Re: Remember
Post by: Kaos on September 12, 2009, 09:37:04 AM
My nine year old daughter listened to some of the 911 calls and the other things that were replayed on the radio yesterday.  I've never seen a kid get so passionate or fired up about politics in the aftermath.  I let her rant. Pushed her in no specific direction, just let her say what was on her mind.

Please vote for my daughter for president when she runs.  Among her platform planks:

1) Osama Bin Laden? Dead. Doesn't matter what you have to do to find him. Dead. If you want to torture him to find out where all his friends are, you can, but after that? Dead.

2) Close the borders. If you want to come here, you better have a good reason and show why. 

3) Support the army. How can we have peace if everybody can just attack us and we don't do anything? We have to be strong to have peace. People don't have to be afraid of us, but everybody should know that if they mess with us we are going to smack them.

4) Tell the government to get out of our business. Let people be as successful as they want. We should all have to stand on our own and not sit around and wait for somebody to give us anything. If you work hard and make more money, you should keep it.  Taxes should only go for building roads and paying for schools and making the army. (She got to this after asking who paid the army and I had to give her a short explanation of taxes. She was appalled that the government takes a portion of my money that I earn and uses it for things she may not agree with).

5) English should be the official language.  If you want to live here, you have to learn it first and pass a test showing you can speak, write and read it.

6) Did I mention dead and tortured Bin Laden?  We send the army after all of his people. Capture them and make them read the Bible until they understand things.  Or just kill them before they kill us, whatever works.