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The Library => Haley Center Basement => Topic started by: Kaos on August 28, 2009, 02:16:59 PM
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What does it say when 50-year old men (or thereabouts) rock as hard or harder than the new generation?
KISS, Aerosmith etc. beat the shit out of Nickelback and their ilk.
What does it say when all of the movies that come out are basically retreads of other movies or TV shows?
Are we the last greatest generation? Did all creativity stop with us? Is there nothing new under the sun?
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Hell meet Handbasket?
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What does it say when 50-year old men (or thereabouts) rock as hard or harder than the new generation?
KISS, Aerosmith etc. beat the shit out of Nickelback and their ilk.
What does it say when all of the movies that come out are basically retreads of other movies or TV shows?
Are we the last greatest generation? Did all creativity stop with us? Is there nothing new under the sun?
It means your old pa-paw
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It means your old pa-paw
If they'd quit fucking up my childhood by making movies about my toys and TV shows, it would help.
Some are an improvement. Transformers kicks total ass.
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If they'd quit fucking up my childhood by making movies about my toys and TV shows, it would help.
Some are an improvement. Transformers kicks total ass.
Wait a tic, you were a little old to be playing with Transformers, that was my generation I had them when they were made out of metal not this cheap ass plastic they use now. Pieces of crap, I was playing with my nephews and the damn thing broke while trying to "transform" it. Stay off my Lawn!
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This is one of those rare times I am going to agree with Kaos. What he is saying is actually just about the same thing I was telling my 17 year old daughter a couple of weeks ago. Hollywood keeps making movies based upon '70s and '80s franchises and also it seems that every current artist has at least one cover of a song from that era on every album they put out now.
Transformers was pretty cool. We saw GI Joe and I thought it was pretty damn good also. I liked that they did not try to get all "realistic" with it and instead made it the advanced technology/military theme just like the toys and cartoon.
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Wait a tic, you were a little old to be playing with Transformers, that was my generation I had them when they were made out of metal not this cheap ass plastic they use now. Pieces of crap, I was playing with my nephews and the damn thing broke while trying to "transform" it. Stay off my Lawn!
The kids my girlfriend babysat played with Transformers. I played with them after the kids went to bed. In some creative ways.
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Hey, I admit that I still play with Transformers. Every time my son gets a new one, I give him a few minutes to play with it, then I ask for it to see if I can figure out how to change it back to vehicle mode without the instructions. It is kind of like a 3D puzzle.
Last Christmas, he got this gigantic, all metal original Optimus Prime. When in robot mode, it stands 18".
Speaking of '80s toys, we found my wife's Voltron lions and castle in her dad's attic. My son thought they were pretty cool also.
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Last Christmas, he got this gigantic, all metal original Optimus Prime. When in robot mode, it stands 18".
Interesting, my Optimus Prime only stans about 9"...I'm jealous.
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Interesting, my Optimus Prime only stans about 9"...I'm jealous.
Prime envy is teh worst
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What does it say when 50-year old men (or thereabouts) rock as hard or harder than the new generation?
KISS, Aerosmith etc. beat the shit out of Nickelback and their ilk.
What does it say when all of the movies that come out are basically retreads of other movies or TV shows?
Are we the last greatest generation? Did all creativity stop with us? Is there nothing new under the sun?
Nickelback sucks absolute balls and do not represent this generation of music. If you want to hear some good music, I have a shit ton I could let you rip.
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Gotta agree with the geezers on this. Things are going backwards. Yes we are devolving, Music is lame and aimed solely at the 12 year old female demographic, As bad as "Modern Music" is text messaging is by far and away the most bi-curious fad in the history of ever. I'm going to take my telephone and type a message to send to another telephone so our conversation about where to go for lunch takes 20 minutes compared to 30 seconds that it would have taken had I just made the call on the vocal side of the unit.
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Nickelback sucks absolute balls and do not represent this generation of music. If you want to hear some good music, I have a poop ton I could let you rip.
I hear some stuff I occasionally like. Most is too formulaic and pop-inspired.
I like some Disturbed but even they seem to have sold out to a degree.
Part of it is the concert experience, too. There's not a new band touring that I can think of in the last 20 years that's put on half the show that bands like KISS do.
When I go to a concert I want to be engaged. A bunch of fucks flitting around like homosexuals (Dave Matthews comes to mind) or sitting on their ass on a stool doesn't really do a thing for me.
I want to be rocked and entertained. Pink Floyd. That was an awesome show.
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Agreed I want to go and listen to a CD or Album. When I go to a show I want a show. But then again how can you have a decent show woven around dull music?
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Agreed I want to go and listen to a CD or Album. When I go to a show I want a show. But then again how can you have a decent show woven around dull music?
Makers and Sprite, Weed, and some flashing lights. That'll do the trick every time.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpW-QHOqZ6U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpW-QHOqZ6U)
Ps If you are watching this at work might want to watch your volume.
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Makers and Sprite, Weed, and some flashing lights. That'll do the trick every time.
You forgot puking up blood. That's entertainment.
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Makers and Sprite, Weed, and some flashing lights. That'll do the trick every time.
Don't forget the glow sticks. The kiddies now these days like the glow sticks.
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Don't forget the glow sticks. The kiddies now these days like the glow sticks.
Yeah, no sh*t. Whoever invented those little sticks of toxic goo, is a fukin' genius.
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Yeah, no sh*t. Whoever invented those little sticks of toxic goo, is a fukin' genius.
Kiss, obviously. Kiss is the alpha and the omega.
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What does it say when 50-year old men (or thereabouts) rock as hard or harder than the new generation?
KISS, Aerosmith etc. beat the shit out of Nickelback and their ilk.
You're suffering from a case of old-man-assititis.
It sucks, but I found myself doing it recently: nothing that the kids do is half as cool as what you remember. I get that.
The funny thing is that there is plenty of really cool shit happening, you just aren't finding it. It happens...it's part of getting older. Otherwise the kids would never have anything that was "theirs".
You have to accept that KISS hasn't aged well (they haven't) and go looking for something else with an open mind.
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Yeah, no sh*t. Whoever invented those little sticks of toxic goo, is a fukin' genius.
Do not, I repeat, do not shake one up till it glows then crack it open and pour it on your junk thinking it'll make it glow. It won't.
The more you know.
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Do not, I repeat, do not shake one up till it glows then crack it open and pour it on your junk thinking it'll make it glow. It won't.
The more you know.
Man, you got that right. I remember this one time after a concert, I.....
I mean...yeah, that doesn't sound very smart.
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Hey, Colonel Sanders didn't start out making tasty assed chicken. He had to fuck up a few birds to get to the top.
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Hey, Colonel Sanders didn't start out making tasty assed chicken. He had to fuck up a few birds to get to the top.
I bow before the wisdom
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You're suffering from a case of old-man-assititis.
It sucks, but I found myself doing it recently: nothing that the kids do is half as cool as what you remember. I get that.
The funny thing is that there is plenty of really cool poop happening, you just aren't finding it. It happens...it's part of getting older. Otherwise the kids would never have anything that was "theirs".
You have to accept that KISS hasn't aged well (they haven't) and go looking for something else with an open mind.
I have other stuff I like.
I just don't remember my dad's bands coming around and tearing down the house when I was 20.
I've been to a good number of concerts. There's something about the vintage rockers that can't be duplicated by the Jonas Brothers. They won't be around or relevant 35 years from now.
KISS has aged better than a lot of other bands, you ask me. You're judging from what you see in random TV apperances. Can't capture the essence of a live show.
They've for sure aged better than Michael Jackson.
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I just don't remember...
Memory has a funny way of being selective (and outright incorrect) at times.
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Memory has a funny way of being selective (and outright incorrect) at times.
So which of the bands that were popular in my dad's high school days -- 1955 -- were still touring to sold out shows in 1990?
My memory is like a cheese trap.
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So which of the bands that were popular in my dad's high school days -- 1955 -- were still touring to sold out shows in 1990?
My memory is like a cheese trap.
The Stones...if I can stretch 1955 a decade or so.
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The Stones...if I can stretch 1955 a decade or so.
Mccartney was still selling out shows in 1990.
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Elton John.
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Ronnie Milsap?
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David Allan Coe...so what if the venue only holds 40 people.
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David Allan Coe...so what if the venue only holds 40 people.
That's a hard sellout, baby.
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That's a hard sellout, baby.
I saw him whilest at Auburn, talking about rocking balls.
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Never been much of a music fan, but what happened to the good times we had as kids?
Kick ball in the culdesac
building ramps to jump our bikes over
pick up football at the local school field
beaking into the local La Petit Academy to play BBall on the 8 foot rims
nights spent chasing girls at the local skating rink
Kick the can
dodge ball
wiffle ball tournaments that last all weekend
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Mccartney was still selling out shows in 1990.
Beatles were late 60s, early 70s. Not my dad's generation. Beatles, Stones were that "rock noise" to him.
The only ones of his era I can recall are like Elvis, Ray Charles and Sinatra. But of those, only Elvis "rocked" so to speak and stayed relevant (even somewhat) with the younger generations.
The 70s and 80s era rock bands have a staying power that most others really don't.
KISS and the Stones (among a handful of others) still stand apart. While Journey, Styx, Foreigner and those bands are playing The Wharf and the Picadillo Pea Festival in Beaufort, KISS still does shows for 100,000-plus in Argentina and still makes the "big" tour stops like Madison Square Garden. And they sell out.
Will today's "popular" bands still be selling out major shows 35 years from now? I contend that most won't.
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Beatles were late 60s, early 70s. Not my dad's generation. Beatles, Stones were that "rock noise" to him.
The only ones of his era I can recall are like Elvis, Ray Charles and Sinatra. But of those, only Elvis "rocked" so to speak and stayed relevant (even somewhat) with the younger generations.
The 70s and 80s era rock bands have a staying power that most others really don't.
KISS and the Stones (among a handful of others) still stand apart. While Journey, Styx, Foreigner and those bands are playing The Wharf and the Picadillo Pea Festival in Beaufort, KISS still does shows for 100,000-plus in Argentina and still makes the "big" tour stops like Madison Square Garden. And they sell out.
Will today's "popular" bands still be selling out major shows 35 years from now? I contend that most won't.
I like Ray Charles and Sinatra...if he was alive I'd go see the Chairman of the Board.
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Beatles were late 60s, early 70s. Not my dad's generation. Beatles, Stones were that "rock noise" to him.
The only ones of his era I can recall are like Elvis, Ray Charles and Sinatra. But of those, only Elvis "rocked" so to speak and stayed relevant (even somewhat) with the younger generations.
The 70s and 80s era rock bands have a staying power that most others really don't.
KISS and the Stones (among a handful of others) still stand apart. While Journey, Styx, Foreigner and those bands are playing The Wharf and the Picadillo Pea Festival in Beaufort, KISS still does shows for 100,000-plus in Argentina and still makes the "big" tour stops like Madison Square Garden. And they sell out.
Will today's "popular" bands still be selling out major shows 35 years from now? I contend that most won't.
Shakespeare sold out some amphitheaters.
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Beatles were late 60s, early 70s. Not my dad's generation. Beatles, Stones were that "rock noise" to him.
The only ones of his era I can recall are like Elvis, Ray Charles and Sinatra. But of those, only Elvis "rocked" so to speak and stayed relevant (even somewhat) with the younger generations.
The 70s and 80s era rock bands have a staying power that most others really don't.
KISS and the Stones (among a handful of others) still stand apart. While Journey, Styx, Foreigner and those bands are playing The Wharf and the Picadillo Pea Festival in Beaufort, KISS still does shows for 100,000-plus in Argentina and still makes the "big" tour stops like Madison Square Garden. And they sell out.
Will today's "popular" bands still be selling out major shows 35 years from now? I contend that most won't.
Well, I was referring more to the quote from wes about stretching things a decade or so but I do concur they are more mid 60's.
BUT one i would find it hard to argue (although you may) would be Johnny Cash. He rocked face from '55 until 2003.
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BUT one i would find it hard to argue (although you may) would be Johnny Cash. He rocked face from '55 until 2003.
Cash, yeah. But he is country in my mind.
It's just my opinion, but I find it semi-remarkable that a band that's been around since 1973 in various incarnations can still sell out stadium shows today -- and do so with a setlist that hasn't really changed all that much since 1980.
Here's the setlist from the upcoming tour. It doesn't include music from the new CD, which I'm sure it will. It's also worth nothing that it only includes three songs from post-first-breakup period. None from the 90s period, although critically and commercially those albums (Hot in the Shade, Revenge, Carnival of Souls, Psycho Circus) were relatively successful.
This is the basic core:
"Deuce"
"Strutter"
"Got to Choose"
"Hotter Than Hell"
"Nothin' to Lose"
"C'mon and Love Me"
"Parasite"
"She" (Tommy Thayer guitar solo)
"100,000 Years" (Eric Singer drum solo)
"Cold Gin" (not played at Konocti Harbor show, August 31)
"Let Me Go, Rock 'n' Roll"
"Black Diamond"
"Rock and Roll All Nite"
Encores
"Shout It Out Loud"
"Lick It Up"
"I Love It Loud" (Gene Simmons bass solo)
"I Was Made for Lovin' You" (Also not played at Konocti show, August 31)
"Love Gun" (Paul Stanley flies out to audience)
"Detroit Rock City"
Side note: It's amusing that the band has 19 studio albums and 18 compliation discs
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Odd. No Beth. Probably their biggest commercial hit.
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Odd. No Beth. Probably their biggest commercial hit.
No Peter Criss to sing it?
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Odd. No Beth. Probably their biggest commercial hit.
Also not appearing on the setlist? The ballad Forever from the early 90s. Most people didn't know it was KISS performing it. Song reached number 8 on the charts (Beth peaked at 7 and I Was Made For Loving You at 11). Also worth noting? The band's "signature song" Rock and Roll All Nite climbed only as high as #12.
Funny that KISS' highest charting songs are those that are not typical of their sound -- and those that hard core fans generally disavow. I don't disavow them, though. I happen to like all of it.
Side notes about Forever?
The song was a collaboration between Paul Stanley and Michael Bolton. Yes, that Michael Bolton, not the guy from Office Space.
It was also the last video Eric Carr shot with the band before succumbing to cancer.
Even though Forever was the band's second biggest single in terms of chart position, the album from which it came (Hot in the Shade, which was actually pretty decent) did not achieve platinum status.
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Also not appearing on the setlist? The ballad Forever from the early 90s. Most people didn't know it was KISS performing it. Song reached number 8 on the charts (Beth peaked at 7 and I Was Made For Loving You at 11). Also worth noting? The band's "signature song" Rock and Roll All Nite climbed only as high as #12.
Funny that KISS' highest charting songs are those that are not typical of their sound -- and those that hard core fans generally disavow. I don't disavow them, though. I happen to like all of it.
Side notes about Forever?
The song was a collaboration between Paul Stanley and Michael Bolton. Yes, that Michael Bolton, not the guy from Office Space.
It was also the last video Eric Carr shot with the band before succumbing to cancer.
Even though Forever was the band's second biggest single in terms of chart position, the album from which it came (Hot in the Shade, which was actually pretty decent) did not achieve platinum status.
I like the Disco hit, and Sure Know Something.
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Did all creativity stop with us? Is there nothing new under the sun?
apparently, the program directors at cbs agree. NCIS: Los Angeles...seriously?
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apparently, the program directors at cbs agree. NCIS: Los Angeles...seriously?
Really? I watched it last night and thought it was pretty well done.
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Anyone looking to watch that "Flash Forward" series starting tomorrow night?
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Really? I watched it last night and thought it was pretty well done.
Please to be comparing to the original?
I have it on the DVR, but I am afraid that it will not live up to standards.
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Please to be comparing to the original?
I have it on the DVR, but I am afraid that it will not live up to standards.
I was afraid of that as well but I don't even know how to compare them. Different pretense all together. I am still holding out my final judgment but based on the first episode I will be DVR'ing it at least for a few more weeks and see where they take the story.
About the only thing comparable to the original is the writing leaves a lot of room for back story to be told down the road in later episodes.
I would give it a view and see what you think.
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Really? I watched it last night and thought it was pretty well done.
perhaps, but i find the show a bit cliched and lacking innovation. there are plenty of other shows on cbs, as well as the other networks, that present the same formula.
i guess, i'm looking for something new, fresh and original besides reality shows and crime dramas. heros has me coming back on mondays but outside of that, i've been a bit disappointed.
comedies...did anyone watch community? thoughts?
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comedies...did anyone watch community? thoughts?
Meant to watch it - forgot to set the DVR. Was it funny? I like Joel McHale on The Soup.
We watched Modern Family last night - the show with Al Bundy in it. It was pretty good.
And Grey's Anatomy starts tonight!!! :clap: :clap:
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hulu.com
I watched community, wasn't lol funny, but I thought it was good. I will continue to DVR.
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hulu.com
I watched community, wasn't lol funny, but I thought it was good. I will continue to DVR.
also fancast.com for NCIS
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Meant to watch it - forgot to set the DVR. Was it funny? I like Joel McHale on The Soup.
We watched Modern Family last night - the show with Al Bundy in it. It was pretty good.
And Grey's Anatomy starts tonight!!! :clap: :clap:
Grey's Anatomy is fucking awful. I'd rather go to a Lady Gaga concert with a just paroled animal fucker...then watch that show.
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Grey's Anatomy is fucking awful. I'd rather go to a Lady Gaga concert with a just paroled animal fucker...then watch that show.
Not possible. Chop is on house arrest for 6 months as part of his probation.
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Not possible. Chop is on house arrest for 6 months as part of his probation.
She's already taken a ride on my disco stick.