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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: RWS on July 16, 2009, 12:42:11 PM
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Saw this on another board and was wondering if it was actually true. Somebody said it was on The Bunker, but I haven't seen it. Then again, I don't have access to look at the actual content of the threads either. I seem to remember something about him disagreeing with his care after his injury or something, but I don't remember it very well. Other boards are saying it is Chaz Ramsey. Anybody have better insight on this? I think the original info came from JOX, fwiw.
http://twitter.com/JOXRoundtable (http://twitter.com/JOXRoundtable)
A major lawsuit has being filed that's going to send shockwaves across Jordan-Hare and The Plains. We'll have the info around 12:30
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I haven't seen anything official, but it sounds like his father won't let the issue die.
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I haven't seen anything official, but it sounds like his father won't let the issue die.
Yeah, I just read back through an article for a refresher: http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/mobileregister/index.ssf?/base/sports/123184172928340.xml&coll=3
This shit could get ugly if it is in fact Ramsey.
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It's pretty much official, and it's not really new information.
Essentially, the Ramsey's decided to go with their own doctor for his surgery. This pissed off Auburn, of course. Ramsey came back with a rehab plan from his own doctor, but Auburn's doctor disagreed with it. Ramsey went with Auburn's plan, and it ruined his career.
I think the judge's verdict will be, "Yes, Chaz, you were screwed over by Auburn. But you know, karma will get you. Try not diving at anyone's knees in your company softball games."
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It's pretty much official, and it's not really new information.
Essentially, the Ramsey's decided to go with their own doctor for his surgery. This pissed off Auburn, of course. Ramsey came back with a rehab plan from his own doctor, but Auburn's doctor disagreed with it. Ramsey went with Auburn's plan, and it ruined his career.
I think the judge's verdict will be, "Yes, Chaz, you were screwed over by Auburn. But you know, karma will get you. Try not diving at anyone's knees in your company softball games."
Oh yeah, I forgot that he was the fucktard that was chop blocking.
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The fact that JOX said this would send "shockwaves" across the plains is just a liiiiiitle bit of hyperbole. None of the principle parties invovled are even at Auburn anymore.
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I'm thinking Auburn should just stop recruiting guys named Ramsey now.
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The fact that JOX said this would send "shockwaves" across the plains is just a liiiiiitle bit of hyperbole. None of the principle parties invovled are even at Auburn anymore.
Really? JOX using hyperbole when it comes to negative news about Auburn?
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Tubbs could be included in the case if he ordered the change to Ramseys rehab. Coaches always push the injured players to return to the field faster than the doctors recommend.
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Really? JOX using hyperbole when it comes to negative news about Auburn?
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2591/3727480852_ba48f5bb25_o.jpg)
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Tubbs could be included in the case if he ordered the change to Ramseys rehab. Coaches always push the injured players to return to the field faster than the doctors recommend.
Coach Tuberville did NOT order the Code Red.
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Chaz Ramsey's lawyer speaks
Hey everyone. We have some news on the Chaz Ramsey front, albeit from one side of the dispute.
Ramsey's lawyer, Steve Heninger of Birmingham, filed a complaint today in federal court (Birmingham) against former Auburn assistant coach Hugh Nall and former trainer Arnold Gamber.
Nall and Gamber left the program soon after Tommy Tuberville's resignation in December.
UPDATE: I spoke with the court clerk in Birmingham and confirmed this information.
UPDATE II: I spoke with Heninger a short time ago. Here are some things he shared with me.
* Ramsey initially injured his back around the time of the 2007 Peach Bowl.
* Ramsey first stuck with therapy. When that didn't work, he had a minimally invasive procedure (hemilaminectomy) to relieve the pain. That was on April 21, 2008. Heninger said Ramsey's doctor had no reservations about the player's ability to return to varsity action after a period of 90 days.
* Heninger said Nall and Gamber began making rigorous physical demands in May.
* Heninger said Ramsey re-injured his back during a workout on June 2, 2008. That injury, Heninger claims, required an invasive surgery that ended Ramsey's football career.
* ``The coaches and Arnold Gamber knew about Chaz's injury. They knew what he could and couldn't do. They ignored that and forced Chaz to participate in exercises that ultimately cost him his career."
* Ramsey's orthopedist was Stanley Faulkner of St. Vincent's East in Birmingham. Ramsey was referred to Faulkner by Mike Goodlett, Auburn's team physician.
* NEW @ 4:10 p.m. On June 3, 2008, Goodlett made a note on Ramsey's medical chart that said: ``My extreme displeasure over the fact that Chaz was allowed to do weight-room activities on 6/2/08 was voiced at length to Arnold Gamber ..."
* NEW @ 4:15 p.m. Once Faulkner intervened and demanded that all weightlifting activity stop immediately (on 8/28/08), the complaint alleges, Ramsey was "humiliated and had his manhood called into question by his offensive line coach, Hugh Nall. A systematic pursuit was undertaken to embarrass and harass (Ramsey) because of his refusal to engage in drills ..."
* NEW @ 4:25 p.m. Ramsey underwent a second procedure, this one more invasive, on 1/21/09. That day, Goodlett petitioned the Southeastern Conference to grant Ramsey a (lifetime) medical exemption. A portion read: ``It is our fear that that continued participation in intercollegiate football would lead to further surgery and and possible long-term sequelae."
Here are some items Heninger shared during a segment earlier today on WJOX-FM's "The Roundtable" radio program:
* On why Auburn cannot be sued: ``They have sovereign immunity. Any state institute cannot be sued for negligence or gross negligence or anything like that. You can sue an agent or employee of the state if that agent acts beyond the scope of his actual authority. When you have restrictions, you can't go beyond that authority and do what you think should be done."
* Heninger said Ramsey was ``intimidated" into doing weight drills and line drills: ``The phrase `man up' was used a lot."
* ``(Nall) got the team together and told them: `Stay away from Chaz Ramsey. He's not a man.' His locker was cleaned out. His meal ticket was taken. They did everything they could to intimidate him."
* Heninger expects this case to go to trial next summer.
* Heninger believes Auburn's lawyers will play a role in defending Gamber and Nall, which will create the illusion that Auburn is involved: ``It's really not."
* In the interim, he's planning to take depositions from a lot of people involved in the Tigers' program: ``I'll got to take a deposition from Coach Tuberville and a lot of assistant coaches to find out: How high did the orders come down from? From the evidence I've seen, it's Hugh Nall and Gamber.
http://jaygtate.blogspot.com/ (http://jaygtate.blogspot.com/)
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Coach Tuberville did NOT order the Code Red.
You cant handle the TRUTH.
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Chaz Ramsey's lawyer speaks
Hey everyone. We have some news on the Chaz Ramsey front, albeit from one side of the dispute.
Ramsey's lawyer, Steve Heninger of Birmingham, filed a complaint today in federal court (Birmingham) against former Auburn assistant coach Hugh Nall and former trainer Arnold Gamber.
Nall and Gamber left the program soon after Tommy Tuberville's resignation in December.
UPDATE: I spoke with the court clerk in Birmingham and confirmed this information.
UPDATE II: I spoke with Heninger a short time ago. Here are some things he shared with me.
* Ramsey initially injured his back around the time of the 2007 Peach Bowl.
* Ramsey first stuck with therapy. When that didn't work, he had a minimally invasive procedure (hemilaminectomy) to relieve the pain. That was on April 21, 2008. Heninger said Ramsey's doctor had no reservations about the player's ability to return to varsity action after a period of 90 days.
* Heninger said Nall and Gamber began making rigorous physical demands in May.
* Heninger said Ramsey re-injured his back during a workout on June 2, 2008. That injury, Heninger claims, required an invasive surgery that ended Ramsey's football career.
* ``The coaches and Arnold Gamber knew about Chaz's injury. They knew what he could and couldn't do. They ignored that and forced Chaz to participate in exercises that ultimately cost him his career."
* Ramsey's orthopedist was Stanley Faulkner of St. Vincent's East in Birmingham. Ramsey was referred to Faulkner by Mike Goodlett, Auburn's team physician.
* NEW @ 4:10 p.m. On June 3, 2008, Goodlett made a note on Ramsey's medical chart that said: ``My extreme displeasure over the fact that Chaz was allowed to do weight-room activities on 6/2/08 was voiced at length to Arnold Gamber ..."
* NEW @ 4:15 p.m. Once Faulkner intervened and demanded that all weightlifting activity stop immediately (on 8/28/08), the complaint alleges, Ramsey was "humiliated and had his manhood called into question by his offensive line coach, Hugh Nall. A systematic pursuit was undertaken to embarrass and harass (Ramsey) because of his refusal to engage in drills ..."
* NEW @ 4:25 p.m. Ramsey underwent a second procedure, this one more invasive, on 1/21/09. That day, Goodlett petitioned the Southeastern Conference to grant Ramsey a (lifetime) medical exemption. A portion read: ``It is our fear that that continued participation in intercollegiate football would lead to further surgery and and possible long-term sequelae."
Here are some items Heninger shared during a segment earlier today on WJOX-FM's "The Roundtable" radio program:
* On why Auburn cannot be sued: ``They have sovereign immunity. Any state institute cannot be sued for negligence or gross negligence or anything like that. You can sue an agent or employee of the state if that agent acts beyond the scope of his actual authority. When you have restrictions, you can't go beyond that authority and do what you think should be done."
* Heninger said Ramsey was ``intimidated" into doing weight drills and line drills: ``The phrase `man up' was used a lot."
* ``(Nall) got the team together and told them: `Stay away from Chaz Ramsey. He's not a man.' His locker was cleaned out. His meal ticket was taken. They did everything they could to intimidate him."
* Heninger expects this case to go to trial next summer.
* Heninger believes Auburn's lawyers will play a role in defending Gamber and Nall, which will create the illusion that Auburn is involved: ``It's really not."
* In the interim, he's planning to take depositions from a lot of people involved in the Tigers' program: ``I'll got to take a deposition from Coach Tuberville and a lot of assistant coaches to find out: How high did the orders come down from? From the evidence I've seen, it's Hugh Nall and Gamber.
http://jaygtate.blogspot.com/ (http://jaygtate.blogspot.com/)
And that's the reason why I have disliked Coach Nall since I'd heard about what he'd done to Chaz. And, if I was Chaz, you'd better believe I'd sue the HELL outta that sumbitch.
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And that's the reason why I have disliked Coach Nall since I'd heard about what he'd done to Chaz. And, if I was Chaz, you'd better believe I'd sue the HELL outta that sumbitch.
I hated Nall for the terrible line play.
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And that's the reason why I have disliked Coach Nall since I'd heard about what he'd done to Chaz. And, if I was Chaz, you'd better believe I'd sue the HELL outta that sumbitch.
I'd sue him for every penny he has, along with that incredibly distracting mole on his head.
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I'd sue him for every penny he has, along with that incredibly distracting mole on his head.
MOLE.....molie, molie, molie, molie....mmmMMMMMOLE!!!
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MOLE.....molie, molie, molie, molie....mmmMMMMMOLE!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mvxe04wGmTw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mvxe04wGmTw)
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So, the answer to the thread's topic question is:
No, Chaz Ramsey is not suing Auburn.
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So, the answer to the thread's topic question is:
No, Chaz Ramsey is not suing Auburn.
That is correct, counselor.
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So, the answer to the thread's topic question is:
No, Chaz Ramsey is not suing Auburn.
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Link?
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Link?
Sorry Chizad, but you'll have to go to GheyUNation to get your damn link.
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Link?
I think I took care of that above.
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I think I took care of that above.
I gotcha. So he's not suing "Auburn". Just "Auburn coaches".
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I gotcha. So he's not suing "Auburn". Just "Former Auburn coaches".
Amended
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Amended
Gotcha.
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I could have told you this earlier though, can't sue a state institution, except under certain extremely rare exceptions.
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I talked to someone today who had just recently traveled through Auburn. They told me they felt shock waves.
Shock waves, I tell ya'.
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I talked to someone today who had just recently traveled through Auburn. They told me they felt shock waves.
Shock waves, I tell ya'.
:rofl:<----at the bammers that are trying to make this out to be something serious against the University. I wonder if they'll have one of their reporters, up in New York, write an article about it....maybe they can try to get the NCAA to investigate Auburn for something (anything, just something). The bammer mouthpiece (PF) will string this one out as long as possible.
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And that's the reason why I have disliked Coach Nall since I'd heard about what he'd done to Chaz. And, if I was Chaz, you'd better believe I'd sue the HELL outta that sumbitch.
Pretty pathetic Prowler. You don't know shit. No actual insight just what you heard on the radio. And this is your response? Pa-fucking-thetic.
I guess later you'll deny saying this because you were just relying on "da skreets"
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I talked to someone today who had just recently traveled through Auburn. They told me they felt shock waves.
Shock waves, I tell ya'.
Probably just Chizik's explosive diarrhea.
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Probably just Chizik's explosive diarrhea.
I was in Auburn last weekend and my stomach hurt?
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I could have told you this earlier though, can't sue a state institution, except under certain extremely rare exceptions.
Have you even passed the bar yet? Don't you have some studying to do!
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I guess later you'll deny saying this because you were just relying on "da skreets"
I have a question, where are "da skreets"? Because they seem to be filled with a lot of talkers and maybe a drive-by is in order so that they can be "da shot"
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I have a question, where are "da skreets"? Because they seem to be filled with a lot of talkers and maybe a drive-by is in order so that they can be "da shot"
Da Skreets of San Francisco
Takin' It To Da Skreets
Where Da Skreets Have No Name
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Da Skreets of San Francisco
Takin' It To Da Skreets
Where Da Skreets Have No Name
don't forget Down on MainSkreet.
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Say...can ya tell me how to get to Sesame Skreet?
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Say...can ya tell me how to get to Sesame Skreet?
No, but I think they would know.
(http://www.first-ward.com/files/8452fb1dbed0b018ecd2be42053664a6.jpg)
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No, but I think they would know.
(http://www.first-ward.com/files/8452fb1dbed0b018ecd2be42053664a6.jpg)
that cracked me up!
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No, but I think they would know.
(http://www.first-ward.com/files/8452fb1dbed0b018ecd2be42053664a6.jpg)
great...my kids watch sesame skreet everyday.
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Have you even passed the bar yet? Don't you have some studying to do!
He's got one more week to sweat it, I believe.
July 27-29.
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He's got one more week to sweat it, I believe.
July 27-29.
Yeah........fml.
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It's pretty much official, and it's not really new information.
Essentially, the Ramsey's decided to go with their own doctor for his surgery. This pissed off Auburn, of course. Ramsey came back with a rehab plan from his own doctor, but Auburn's doctor disagreed with it. Ramsey went with Auburn's plan, and it ruined his career.
I think the judge's verdict will be, "Yes, Chaz, you were screwed over by Auburn. But you know, karma will get you. Try not diving at anyone's knees in your company softball games."
I believe the verdict was that the tackle made the wrong block and should not have engaged the defender. Chaz was supposed to chop block an unblocked defender which would have made the block legal.
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I believe the verdict was that the tackle made the wrong block and should not have engaged the defender. Chaz was supposed to chop block an unblocked defender which would have made the block legal.
Which occurance are we talking about here?
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Which occurance are we talking about here?
The LSU occurrence.