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Title: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: Birmingham on May 19, 2009, 11:00:25 PM
sorry for the trollish post but I feel like you guys have started liking me here lately and I can't let that shit happen.  It's bad for both of us.  Just trying to keep the universe aligned.

http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=85394&sport=1 (http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=85394&sport=1)


Oh, and yes Prowler, I'm sure someone gave him a car if he'd commit.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: CCTAU on May 19, 2009, 11:25:33 PM
Shut up, BITCH!
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: boartitz on May 19, 2009, 11:32:17 PM
sorry for the trollish post but I feel like you guys have started liking me here lately and I can't let that shit happen.  It's bad for both of us.  Just trying to keep the universe aligned.

http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=85394&sport=1 (http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=85394&sport=1)


Oh, and yes Prowler, I'm sure someone gave him a car if he'd commit.
?
Yall offered? Anybody can do that.
Just because you see Alabama on the top of those lists alot, I'll give you a clue. They are in alphabetical order.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: Birmingham on May 19, 2009, 11:45:53 PM
Boartitz, I was posting the profile of the player that committed to Alabama today.  As it is, your sarcasm and tough talk, while misplaced, was noted.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: Birmingham on May 19, 2009, 11:50:42 PM
for Boartitz

http://alabama.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?ReturnTo=&sid=&script=content.asp&cid=947553&fid=&tid=&mid=&rid= (http://alabama.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?ReturnTo=&sid=&script=content.asp&cid=947553&fid=&tid=&mid=&rid=)
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: Townhallsavoy on May 20, 2009, 12:13:12 AM
Wow.  So Saban landed a lifelong Bama fan.  Whoopty fuck. 

I'm guessing since Sanders if from Ariton, he didn't get the Dodge Charger treatment.  Ford F150? 
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: Birmingham on May 20, 2009, 12:27:58 AM
For a "life long bama fan" there certainly was a shit load of speculation about him being close to an Auburn lock.  Not sure who to believe here, the Auburn fans who said he was an Auburn lock or the Auburn fan who says he was a life long bama fan.  That's a predicament.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: The Prowler on May 20, 2009, 02:19:05 AM
He is a life long bammer fan.  He was considered a bammer lock, for a while...that was until he'd heard that he wasn't high on SPuat's list of DLinemen, there was a rumor that he tried to commit to y'all a couple of months ago, but was told to wait.  That when Auburn came in, letting him know that he was very high on their list.  The Tiger Prowl went to Ariton High, then about 10 to 15 minutes had past and in walks Coach Smart (he was tipped off by someone at the school, while he was talking to one of the people that run a "Certain" hardware store in town).
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: boartitz on May 20, 2009, 07:42:27 AM
for Boartitz

http://alabama.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?ReturnTo=&sid=&script=content.asp&cid=947553&fid=&tid=&mid=&rid= (http://alabama.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?ReturnTo=&sid=&script=content.asp&cid=947553&fid=&tid=&mid=&rid=)
Thats a lot different from the first link. This is step 2 instead of step 1.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: #2Bammer on May 20, 2009, 09:05:55 AM
(http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp192/rolltide1978_2008/AUSunshinePump.jpg)
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: Tiger Wench on May 20, 2009, 09:12:14 AM
sorry for the trollish post but I feel like...
You can take your feelings and shove them up your ass sideways with a chainsaw.  This is the X, not Dr. Phil.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: Birmingham on May 20, 2009, 10:11:22 AM
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You can take your feelings and shove them up your ass sideways with a chainsaw.  This is the X, not Dr. Phil.

very good observation.  I usually catch it if anyone uses the word, it sticks out like a sore thumb.  Through the restraint of alcohol last night my eyes mislead me.  Your flogging was appropriate and appreciated.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: Snaggletiger on May 20, 2009, 10:12:55 AM
I'm not trying to make it sound like sour grapes, but I've been talking about this kid to Bama from the start.  I've been close friends with one of the assistant coaches on Ariton whose son was the QB the last couple of years.  He was talking about this kid being a life long Bama fan and lock a couple of years ago.  I admit I was pumped when it appeared the coaches might have turned his head a little with their visit, but I've never really figured on him signing with us.

He is a seriously impressive kid and stands out over everyone on the field.  He's tough on defense from the DE position but didn't move that well side to side.  However, he also played tailback and and as a straight ahead runner in 1A ball...holy crap. The only drawback I would have would be the fact that he played 1A ball and how well that would translate to the SEC.  The guy also told me he disappeared against some of the better teams in their class like Brantley.  Personally, I'd be saying hells yes, if he verbaled to Auburn.    
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: lifesapplepie on May 20, 2009, 10:14:46 AM
Man, I really wanted this guy!  He seems like a class act and a real good guy, he even called Auburn's coaching staff to tell them that he appreciated the opportunity to play football at Auburn!  

With all that being said, FUCK em, he is a bammer now, I hope he gets fucking laid out the first game he plays in.   :fu:
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: Saniflush on May 20, 2009, 10:15:29 AM
 Personally, I'd be saying hells yes, if he verbaled to Auburn.    

Only if he was bring pomegranate juice for everyone.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: Snaggletiger on May 20, 2009, 10:22:19 AM
Only if he was bring pomegranate juice for everyone.

Pomegranate juice is a little known afro-dee-ziak.  It puts the lead in the pencil.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: Saniflush on May 20, 2009, 10:58:59 AM
Pomegranate juice is a little known afro-dee-ziak.  It puts the lead in the pencil.

For those who have an absence of lead.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: Snaggletiger on May 20, 2009, 11:02:43 AM
For those who have an absence of lead.

Yeah well, you just keep it up Mr. Leaded Pencil, Bourbon Drinker Smarty Pants.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: JR4AU on May 20, 2009, 11:05:47 AM
sorry for the trollish post but I feel like you guys have started liking me here lately and I can't let that shit happen.  It's bad for both of us.  Just trying to keep the universe aligned.

http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=85394&sport=1 (http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=85394&sport=1)


Oh, and yes Prowler, I'm sure someone gave him a car if he'd commit.

How mother fucking original!  Why you never see bammers trolling Auburn board talking about 'crootin' do you?  GeezuuuusFuckingChrist!  Eat shit and die....no, better yet, eat shit and live! 
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: Thrilla on May 20, 2009, 11:07:04 AM
Yeah well, you just keep it up Mr. Leaded Pencil, Bourbon Drinker Smarty Pants.

Ironically, the more bourbon I drink, the less lead my pencil has.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: AUChizad on May 20, 2009, 11:09:24 AM
(http://blog.al.com/bamabeat/2009/05/medium_Craig%20Sanders%20Rivals%20ALcom.jpg)

Looks like he's smuggling a pair of pomegranates...
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: RWS on May 20, 2009, 11:09:41 AM
He is a life long bammer fan.  He was considered a bammer lock, for a while...that was until he'd heard that he wasn't high on SPuat's list of DLinemen, there was a rumor that he tried to commit to y'all a couple of months ago, but was told to wait.  That when Auburn came in, letting him know that he was very high on their list.  The Tiger Prowl went to Ariton High, then about 10 to 15 minutes had past and in walks Coach Smart (he was tipped off by someone at the school, while he was talking to one of the people that run a "Certain" hardware store in town).
I really don't see them turning him down a few months ago. Especially based on the implied premise that we only took him now to keep him away from AU. The coaches of your program have admitted and shown that they are behind in recruiting, not the other way around. If he is a life long Alabama fan, and has long been thought an Alabama lock, then I suppose when the Tiger Prowl stopped off at his school that should be viewed as an attempt to snatch him from the jaws of Alabama?

So, just how much of a life long Alabama fan is he, btw? I'm pretty sure he's said before that even though he grew up in Alabama, he never watched much football growing up. When he got a little closer to football playing age, he would watch Alabama, Florida, and Auburn, and the rest of the SEC. Never really had a favorite. His mother had remarried when he was little and his stepfather was a UF fan. His favorite football player is Tim Tebow. He even wore a Tebow jersey to one of UF's games last year. That certainly wouldn't indicate that he is a life long Alabama fan.

And of all days, he committed on Gene Chizik day....that pomegranate juice drinking bastard.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: JR4AU on May 20, 2009, 11:12:34 AM
I really don't see them turning him down a few months ago. Especially based on the implied premise that we only took him now to keep him away from AU. The coaches of your program have admitted and shown that they are behind in recruiting, not the other way around. If he is a life long Alabama fan, and has long been thought an Alabama lock, then I suppose when the Tiger Prowl stopped off at his school that should be viewed as an attempt to snatch him from the jaws of Alabama?

So, just how much of a life long Alabama fan is he, btw? I'm pretty sure he's said before that even though he grew up in Alabama, he never watched much football growing up. When he got a little closer to football playing age, he would watch Alabama, Florida, and Auburn, and the rest of the SEC. Never really had a favorite. His mother had remarried when he was little and his stepfather was a UF fan. His favorite football player is Tim Tebow. He even wore a Tebow jersey to one of UF's games last year. That certainly wouldn't indicate that he is a life long Alabama fan.

SHUT

THE

FUCK

UP!


 :taunt:

 :fu:
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: RWS on May 20, 2009, 11:20:48 AM
SHUT

THE

FUCK

UP!


 :taunt:

 :fu:
Easy there, killer. Its ok, really. My post was mainly directed at Prowler since he always has some spin on how Alabama cheated or felt the need to keep up with Auburn to get a recruit. To those of you who are sensible and can just accept that the guy signed with Alabama and not Auburn, I have no issue really. Well, other than you are Auburn fans. But thats ok too, sunshine. You're still special to me.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: Jumbo on May 20, 2009, 11:39:08 AM
Yeah well, you just keep it up Mr. Leaded Pencil, Bourbon Drinker Smarty Pants.
Bourbon, its for whats for breakfast!
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: Birmingham on May 20, 2009, 01:05:21 PM
For those keeping score it's...

Saban 4
Chizik  zero
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: JR4AU on May 20, 2009, 01:06:32 PM
For those keeping score it's...

Saban 4
Chizik  zero

Make it up as you go fuckstick!
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: Birmingham on May 20, 2009, 01:15:28 PM
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Make it up as you go fuckstick!

What exactly is it that you are saying I'm making up?
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: #2Bammer on May 20, 2009, 01:50:15 PM
(http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp192/rolltide1978_2008/AUSunshinePump.jpg)
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: The Prowler on May 20, 2009, 01:59:52 PM
Easy there, killer. Its ok, really. My post was mainly directed at Prowler since he always has some spin on how Alabama cheated or felt the need to keep up with Auburn to get a recruit. To those of you who are sensible and can just accept that the guy signed with Alabama and not Auburn, I have no issue really. Well, other than you are Auburn fans. But thats ok too, sunshine. You're still special to me.
No spin here, dumbass, Craig was a bammer lock (somewhat) since the get go.  The people that were saying that Craig tried to commit a couple of months ago, only to get turned down, was coming from you bammers... Nothing made up there....I'm sure.  I was actually surprised that these coaches were able to get Craig Sanders interested in Auburn, after being a Huge bammer lock, and Craig was interested in Auburn...why do you think that Coach Smart thought it best to have a sit down with CS's mother at the hardware store (Violation), then go and disrupt the Tiger Prowl that was at Ariton High?  Because SPuat was starting to get worried, that's why.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: Buzz Killington on May 20, 2009, 02:18:27 PM
(http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp192/rolltide1978_2008/AUSunshinePump.jpg)

Moo
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: RWS on May 20, 2009, 02:25:47 PM
No spin here, dumbass, Craig was a bammer lock (somewhat) since the get go.  The people that were saying that Craig tried to commit a couple of months ago, only to get turned down, was coming from you bammers... Nothing made up there....I'm sure.  I was actually surprised that these coaches were able to get Craig Sanders interested in Auburn, after being a Huge bammer lock, and Craig was interested in Auburn...why do you think that Coach Smart thought it best to have a sit down with CS's mother at the hardware store (Violation), then go and disrupt the Tiger Prowl that was at Ariton High?  Because SPuat was starting to get worried, that's why.
Thank you for furthering my point. The story only gets jucier and longer every time it is told.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: Tiger Wench on May 20, 2009, 03:27:32 PM
Your flogging was appropriate and appreciated.
Groveling is both appropriate and expected (after all, you ARE a bammer). 

However, while a flogging from me might be appropriate (after all, you ARE a bammer), I can guarantee you it would not be appreciated, unless you are a submissive, and would "appreciate" being treated like gum on the bottom of my stiletto heel...  :whip:
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: Snaggletiger on May 20, 2009, 04:42:19 PM
Groveling is both appropriate and expected (after all, you ARE a bammer). 

However, while a flogging from me might be appropriate (after all, you ARE a bammer), I can guarantee you it would not be appreciated, unless you are a submissive, and would "appreciate" being treated like gum on the bottom of my stiletto heel...  :whip:

Oklahoma
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: Tiger Wench on May 20, 2009, 05:31:05 PM
Oklahoma
:blink:
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: Snaggletiger on May 20, 2009, 05:55:11 PM
:blink:

An episode of Jackass.  They had two dominatrix women come to a hotel and tie up the fat guy naked and parade him around the hotel.  The only way he could make them stop whipping his ass and digging the stilettos into was to holler, "Oklahoma".

They beat his fat ass to a pulp and he screamed Oklahoma many a time.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: The Prowler on May 20, 2009, 06:07:46 PM
Thank you for furthering my point. The story only gets jucier and longer every time it is told.
What "Story" are you talking about?  If you're talking about Coach Smart going to speak to his CS' mother then getting word that the Tiger Prowl had arrived at Ariton High, he left abruptly to disrupt it, then I don't see were it's getting juicier or longer, this was information that was posted by someone that is very close to Craig Sanders and was at Ariton High when it all went down.  Go find my post about the situation of the Tiger Prowl at Ariton and lets just see were the story gets juicier and longer.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: RWS on May 20, 2009, 07:48:27 PM
What "Story" are you talking about?  If you're talking about Coach Smart going to speak to his CS' mother then getting word that the Tiger Prowl had arrived at Ariton High, he left abruptly to disrupt it, then I don't see were it's getting juicier or longer, this was information that was posted by someone that is very close to Craig Sanders and was at Ariton High when it all went down.  Go find my post about the situation of the Tiger Prowl at Ariton and lets just see were the story gets juicier and longer.
Here is your original account:

BTW, if you have 10-20 Clients that you really, really want....You do everything, legally, that you can to get them.  That's what Auburn is doing this week.  The next three weeks, they'll split up and go Nation Wide.

Also, Kirby Smart was scheduled to been at Ariton High, today.  But, when word got out that the Auburn Coaches were going to be there on Tuesday, he decided to make his way over there, stopping at a "Certain" Hardware store to grab a drink, eventhough he passed two convenience stores and gas stations, right up the road.  Then when he got word that the coaches had arrived, he got over there asap.  He walked right up in between the Auburn Seven and said, I'm going to break this little party up.  Word got back to the prospect that the coaches were there to evaluate, let's just say he thought it wasn't a Smart move on the Coach's part and that it was pretty tacky.

Also, rws, it's okay for a coach to "Bump" into the prospect, as long as, it's nothing more than a simple hello.  Think about it for a second.....do you see what I'm saying?
Now, we've changed the structure of the story a little bit and added his mother to the equation. And also, just thought I would point out that apparently the prospect that everybody was there to evaluate didn't mind too much, assuming we are talking about Craig Sanders. I think thats the biggest hole in your story, considering he just committed to Alabama. Of course, that hole calls in to question the validity of the rest of the story. I'm assuming you threw in the part about him thinking it was "tacky" when you thought he might lean towards AU. I bet you didn't expect him to commit somewhere else so quickly where somebody else might remember what you had said, did you? I don't doubt Smart was there when the Tiger Prowl was there, just for clarification. I simply call into question pretty much the rest of your little story. But hey, I'm sure the post you saw was not only from a "close friend" of Sanders, but a "very reliable poster" as well.

Add that to the fact that you WANT to believe it, perhaps to show that our staff is concerned about AU's recruiting or is otherwise shady about things, and this makes a nice little message board rumor. Its funny how AU fans and AU fans only have the connections to know about what Alabama is doing and why. Its funny AU fans' "connections" never know anything else about any other school. Only Alabama, and new information is coming up on a daily basis. Alabama cheats, and Alabama is the only team in the NCAA that is cheating, and AU fans are the only ones that know about it. Imagine that!

I could go on whatever board and say I'm close to this recruit and that recruit. It certainly doesn't make it true. Thats why I don't trust 99.9% of the bullshit I read on a board. You are the opposite of me. You take whatever you can from a message board post, treat it as the gospel, then twist it as you see fit. That way, if you change it just a little bit its different from the original rumor and makes it seem as if you know something others don't. This has been your game since AUN man, and I don't see it changing anytime soon.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: The Prowler on May 20, 2009, 11:52:07 PM
The "Certain" hardware store is a store that Craig Sanders' mother runs.  And the part about a poster that was at Ariton High when all of it took place and has stated that he's close to the Sanders, I'm guessing family friend is about the same thing of you saying that you're close to the 5* Mexican and countless other SPuat players.

Also, Auburn fans aren't the only ones that know about it, SPuat has been turned in by other Universities not named Auburn and they're not all in the SEC either.  Hell, Tennessee fans, one in particular, knows about y'alls cheating since the bahr.  Have y'all learned the lesson that the NCAA has tried to teach?  10 years IN A ROW on probation, and I'm counting the upcoming probation, says that y'all haven't.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: RWS on May 21, 2009, 12:03:45 AM
The "Certain" hardware store is a store that Craig Sanders' mother runs.  And the part about a poster that was at Ariton High when all of it took place and has stated that he's close to the Sanders, I'm guessing family friend is about the same thing of you saying that you're close to the 5* Mexican and countless other SPuat players.

Also, Auburn fans aren't the only ones that know about it, SPuat has been turned in by other Universities not named Auburn and they're not all in the SEC either.  Hell, Tennessee fans, one in particular, knows about y'alls cheating since the bahr.  Have y'all learned the lesson that the NCAA has tried to teach?  10 years IN A ROW on probation, and I'm counting the upcoming probation, says that y'all haven't.  :thumbsup:
So, now that I have raised the specific point about AU fans always knowing and being the only ones to ever know, now we've been turned in by other universities not in the SEC. I love it. Its easy for you, because you just make up whatever story is convenient for you. When you're spouting a bunch of bullshit, its easy for you to say whatever you want.

And are we seriously going to bring up tennstud? Really? Its just like the other day when a post was made on a UT board by somebody who was supposedly tennstud. The folks on AU boards reposted on their respective boards almost immediately for dissemination. The replies started pouring in, saying that "sources" had confirmed this and "this is what I've been hearing too". You must have missed the part where the UT admins deleted the thread, and revealed that it was not even actually the real tennstud who posted it. Hell, WarTim and others claim to have knowledge of cheating all the way back to Bear Bryant. Thats great that you think our textbook issue is an organized effort by everybody in our Athletic Department and is a way for us to cheat. I think the NCAA will see it a little differently.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: Thrilla on May 21, 2009, 09:50:37 AM
An episode of Jackass.  They had two dominatrix women come to a hotel and tie up the fat guy naked and parade him around the hotel.  The only way he could make them stop whipping his ass and digging the stilettos into was to holler, "Oklahoma".

They beat his fat ass to a pulp and he screamed Oklahoma many a time.

Poor Preston.  Out of all of those idiots, he always got it the worst.  And it was damn funny.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: The Prowler on May 21, 2009, 12:52:31 PM
So, now that I have raised the specific point about AU fans always knowing and being the only ones to ever know, now we've been turned in by other universities not in the SEC. I love it. Its easy for you, because you just make up whatever story is convenient for you. When you're spouting a bunch of bullshit, its easy for you to say whatever you want.

And are we seriously going to bring up tennstud? Really? Its just like the other day when a post was made on a UT board by somebody who was supposedly tennstud. The folks on AU boards reposted on their respective boards almost immediately for dissemination. The replies started pouring in, saying that "sources" had confirmed this and "this is what I've been hearing too". You must have missed the part where the UT admins deleted the thread, and revealed that it was not even actually the real tennstud who posted it. Hell, WarTim and others claim to have knowledge of cheating all the way back to Bear Bryant. Thats great that you think our textbook issue is an organized effort by everybody in our Athletic Department and is a way for us to cheat. I think the NCAA will see it a little differently.
I love it how you bammers are trying to make it look like we, Auburn fans, are just making everything up, by saying...."Oh, now you're adding to the story or I haven't heard that one, wow".  The truth is, there have been other Universities not named Auburn and not in the SEC to turn y'all in.  The SEC schools became wise to Mike Slive and his "look the other way" type of running things, that they had to go over his head.  It's what I've been saying the whole time, it's nothing new.  Also, think of the Textbook as a way for players, not on scholarship, to get the book(s) and sell them back for $$$....and if you think that "Books-A-Million" just started in ('05) you are one naive bammer.

 :sad: Bammers trying to figure out what the NCAA is going to do to them  :sad:

This should be fun
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: RWS on May 21, 2009, 01:14:38 PM
I love it how you bammers are trying to make it look like we, Auburn fans, are just making everything up, by saying...."Oh, now you're adding to the story or I haven't heard that one, wow".  The truth is, there have been other Universities not named Auburn and not in the SEC to turn y'all in.  The SEC schools became wise to Mike Slive and his "look the other way" type of running things, that they had to go over his head.  It's what I've been saying the whole time, it's nothing new.  Also, think of the Textbook as a way for players, not on scholarship, to get the book(s) and sell them back for $$$....and if you think that "Books-A-Million" just started in ('05) you are one naive bammer.

 :sad: Bammers trying to figure out what the NCAA is going to do to them  :sad:

This should be fun
Oh, its the truth? Show me proof that other universities have turned us in. You say it has happened, and that it is fact. I'm waiting on that one. See, thats the problem with you. You just make up whatever silly bullshit you can think of, or that you see on another message board, and spread it around as the truth. Most of the retards on AUN that you so gleefully share this with eat it up with a spoon, because they think the same way you do. They blindly follow anything that is negative regarding Alabama. More so since the arrival of CNS, and noticeably more since the Iron Bowl. And its peculiar how it is always something that can't be proven, but just happens to be word of mouth from "reliable posters" on message boards. Its easy to pander to people who refuse to think for themselves or use common sense.

The way you guys justify it is by always being vague and simply saying "NCAA is investigating something, its gonna kill bammer". Then years down the road, if something happens, then you point back and say "SEE! WE TOLD YOU ALL ALONG!!". It doesn't work that way, champ. I remember about a month after CNS arrived some AU fans were claiming how the NCAA was already investigating, or would be shortly, his recruiting violations. More specifically a South Florida prospect. Still haven't heard anything about that. But, the accusations have continued since. I supposed if you use the shotgun approach, you might eventually hit something. Some of you just come up with anything and everything you can.

And as for the textbooks, there were no profits gained nor was there money involved. The NCAA even admitted as much in copies of papers that were released. The school isn't even being charged with "lack of institutional control", its a "failure to monitor" charge. Again, yet another instance of you just spouting whatever bullshit you can think of.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: The Prowler on May 21, 2009, 07:59:03 PM
The South Florida instance was a Self appointed secondary violation, I thought all you bammers were always in the know about the NCAA when it's regarding the Cesspool, guess I was wrong. Remember the Plane ride that Brandon Gibson took with some friends and family members? SPuat told the NCAA about that violation too, but when it was hitting the internet all the bammers, I'm guessing yourself included, said that the AU fans were just pulling that out of thin air too.  As for "Failure to Moniter", you do realize that it's one small step away from "Lack of Institutional Control", right?  Think of LOIC as Murder and FTM as Manslaughter.

Let me ask this question again, what would you say if a bammer "insider"/ website admin./ REC member sent out an email to you and other bammers that stated that Jerrell still has his Dodge Charger and that Dre had one on lease but that he gave it back not long after the ChargerGate rumors started hitting the internet?
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: El Guapo on May 21, 2009, 08:35:13 PM
I think everyone has gotten off the point -




fuck your limo.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: Greaseyweasel on May 21, 2009, 09:52:06 PM
We (Auburn) would have probably stood a better chance of landing him instead of watching him get gobbled up by that other school had we actually acted like we were recruiting players instead of rolling around in a ghetto-tastic pimp wagon trying to be treated like some sort of world beating coaching staff.
But, You know what I'm going to say next don't you.....or do you?

There is an 85 scholarship rule. Since all schools can have no more than 85 scholarships then all schools should in theory land good players for their programs. The difference in the programs will come down to.....the coaches.

Auburn has shit the bed with our coach and staff and the recruits who actually interact with our "coaches" know that we have. Every single other school from MMI to Southern Cal that speaks to anyone that Auburn is recruiting is going to point that out and reinforce that message.

If Auburn still took football seriously why did they hire chizik?

The recruits hear that from everyone...except Auburn who rolled up in a prom night ghetto-tastic circus wagon with a coaching staff dressed like a cruise ship waiter staff.And after they hear it enough they start to wonder and then here comes the clowns acting as though they have done something besideds provide a valid credit card to  limo company. 
Then we bitch when a very needed player commits to another school.

Unfuckinbelievable.

Open your eyes people. Auburn is fucking ourselves.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: The Prowler on May 21, 2009, 10:44:44 PM
We (Auburn) would have probably stood a better chance of landing him instead of watching him get gobbled up by that other school had we actually acted like we were recruiting players instead of rolling around in a ghetto-tastic pimp wagon trying to be treated like some sort of world beating coaching staff.
But, You know what I'm going to say next don't you.....or do you?

There is an 85 scholarship rule. Since all schools can have no more than 85 scholarships then all schools should in theory land good players for their programs. The difference in the programs will come down to.....the coaches.

Auburn has shit the bed with our coach and staff and the recruits who actually interact with our "coaches" know that we have. Every single other school from MMI to Southern Cal that speaks to anyone that Auburn is recruiting is going to point that out and reinforce that message.

If Auburn still took football seriously why did they hire chizik?

The recruits hear that from everyone...except Auburn who rolled up in a prom night ghetto-tastic circus wagon with a coaching staff dressed like a cruise ship waiter staff.And after they hear it enough they start to wonder and then here comes the clowns acting as though they have done something besideds provide a valid credit card to  limo company. 
Then we bitch when a very needed player commits to another school.

Unfuckinbelievable.

Open your eyes people. Auburn is fucking ourselves.

you should seriously open your fuckin' eyes and realize that the staff that Coach Chizik has assembled is an Awesome one.  If you really can't see that then, you shouldn't worry yourself with trying to follow football.  As for asking recruits what they think, maybe you should do your fuckin' homework on what the recruits have said about the staff, before you open your gnat trap....what am I saying, you're gnat trap is always open.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: War Eagle!!! on May 22, 2009, 09:15:04 AM
Auburn has shit the bed with our coach and staff and the recruits who actually interact with our "coaches" know that we have.

Wannabe........
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: wesfau2 on May 22, 2009, 09:16:46 AM
Wannabe........

Or one and the same?

Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: War Eagle!!! on May 22, 2009, 09:24:33 AM
Or one and the same?

Nah. Kaos would never write in non coherent thoughts like GW. At least when Kaos makes a point, whether you agree with it or not, it is very well written.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: Greaseyweasel on May 22, 2009, 05:30:52 PM
you should seriously open your fuckin' eyes and realize that the staff that Coach Chizik has assembled is an Awesome one.  If you really can't see that then, you shouldn't worry yourself with trying to follow football.  As for asking recruits what they think, maybe you should do your fuckin' homework on what the recruits have said about the staff, before you open your gnat trap....what am I saying, you're gnat trap is always open.
Besides you and COACH GENE chizik who actually thinks that Ted Roof is such a great hire? How hard is it to lure the co-offensive coordinator away from Tulsa?
Sorry but the whole mystical magical coaching staff is just a bad magic act.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: Greaseyweasel on May 22, 2009, 05:31:33 PM
Wannabe........
It was such a cool line I had to try and use it.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: Kaos on May 22, 2009, 05:39:52 PM
It was such a cool line I had to try and use it.

That one's free.  Because I swiped "squadoosh" from you. 

Interesting word, squadoosh.  I've added it to my repitoire.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: Kaos on May 22, 2009, 05:40:28 PM
Or one and the same?



You cut me, dog.  Cut me deep.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: The Prowler on May 22, 2009, 08:11:00 PM
Besides you and COACH GENE chizik who actually thinks that Ted Roof is such a great hire? How hard is it to lure the co-offensive coordinator away from Tulsa?
Sorry but the whole mystical magical coaching staff is just a bad magic act.
Yes you are a special one.  Is this what happens when you're a 4th generation inbred?

You and probably only you, think that Coach Roof isn't a great hire as a Defensive Coordinator...and you'd be completely WRONG
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: The Prowler on May 22, 2009, 10:04:54 PM
Hey rws....did you just say that no money was involved in Books-A-Million?

Check out the top of Page 6 and tell me how many Zeros is in that number... (http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/assets/pdf/TL1527835.PDF)
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: Greaseyweasel on May 22, 2009, 10:43:13 PM
Yes you are a special one.  Is this what happens when you're a 4th generation inbred?

You and probably only you, think that Coach Roof isn't a great hire as a Defensive Coordinator...and you'd be completely WRONG
Your right prowler I am completely wrong. Duke has always been known as a defensive powerhouse with many many football championships to their credit....oh wait I am wrong now.
Duke sucks.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: #2Bammer on May 22, 2009, 10:52:44 PM
you should seriously open your fuckin' eyes and realize that the staff that Coach Chizik has assembled is an Awesome one.  If you really can't see that then, you shouldn't worry yourself with trying to follow football.  As for asking recruits what they think, maybe you should do your fuckin' homework on what the recruits have said about the staff, before you open your gnat trap....what am I saying, you're gnat trap is always open.

Asking recruits what they think? Barner Mathews asking a recruit doesnt mean shit! What TOP rated recruit has the AWESOME STAFF  got to commit??????? NONE you farm animal fucking piece of shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 :fu: Damn you need to stop butt fucking your sister you retard!
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: The Prowler on May 22, 2009, 10:53:05 PM
Your right prowler I am completely wrong. Duke has always been known as a defensive powerhouse with many many football championships to their credit....oh wait I am wrong now.
Duke sucks.
homework is not your friend there greaseybammer.  If you had any football knowledge, you'd know that Coach Ted Roof is a really good to great Defensive Coordinator and recruiter.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: Greaseyweasel on May 22, 2009, 10:54:57 PM
homework is not your friend there greaseybammer.  If you had any football knowledge, you'd know that Coach Ted Roof is a really good to great Defensive Coordinator and recruiter.
According to COACH GENE CHIZIK and his cock holster prowler.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: #2Bammer on May 22, 2009, 10:55:50 PM
homework is not your friend there greaseybammer.  If you had any football knowledge, you'd know that Coach Ted Roof is a really good to great Defensive Coordinator and recruiter.



hahahahahahahahahahahahahah   yea when I think of great def. cord. I think of Roof..... 
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: The Prowler on May 22, 2009, 11:09:30 PM
Asking recruits what they think? Barner Mathews asking a recruit doesnt mean shit! What TOP rated recruit has the AWESOME STAFF  got to commit??????? NONE you farm animal fucking piece of shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 :fu: Damn you need to stop butt fucking your sister you retard!
Wow right on que, I mention Gnat Trap and look who chimes in, one of greaseybammer's brethren...hey shitbammer, that's a real intelligent post, you fucking inbred trash.

As for Bryan Matthews, he tape records all of his interviews, so if he quotes something from a prospect...that's what the prospect said.

As for Top rated recruit, Jake Holland is a big time prospect as well as the #1 Kicker Cody Parkey, Shaun Kitchens is another big time prospect, as well as Shon Coleman.  No, aside from Cody Parkey and Jake Holland, they're not ranked in the Top 10 per position.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: The Prowler on May 22, 2009, 11:15:28 PM
According to COACH GENE CHIZIK and his cock holster prowler.
No, dumbfuck bammer, according to Numerous Coaches and people that cover college football around the Country (you know, people that actually know what they're talking about).
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: JR4AU on May 23, 2009, 08:18:08 AM
That one's free.  Because I swiped "squadoosh" from you. 

Interesting word, squadoosh.  I've added it to my repitoire.

Ah, my brother has been saying since I can recall. 
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: JR4AU on May 23, 2009, 08:22:47 AM
Your right prowler I am completely wrong. Duke has always been known as a defensive powerhouse with many many football championships to their credit....oh wait I am wrong now.
Duke sucks.

Nah, you're just plain stupid you dumb fucker.  He was a head coach Duke, which has nothing to do with his abilities as a mere advisor.  You know, like Chizik's days as an "advisor" don't have shit to do with his abilities as a head coach now?  You know, that bullshit you constantly spew as cold, hard fact?
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: Kaos on May 23, 2009, 09:14:06 AM
Ah, my brother has been saying since I can recall. 

Greasyweasel is your brother?  Well, that explains the animus.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: JR4AU on May 23, 2009, 09:16:23 AM
Greasyweasel is your brother? 

Not a chance in hell!
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: War Eagle!!! on May 24, 2009, 12:28:26 PM
Yes you are a special one.  Is this what happens when you're a 4th generation inbred?

You and probably only you, think that Coach Roof isn't a great hire as a Defensive Coordinator...and you'd be completely WRONG

GREAT hire? Who knows. It's silly to think Ted Roof was a GREAT hire. Did you even know who the fucker was before Chizik hired him? I sure as hell didn't. Stop defending EVERY fucking thing the man does...

I will agree with Kaos on you that in that you think everything Chizik touches is the "BEST GOD DAMN FUCKING THING EVER...WAR GOD DAMN EAGLE"

Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: The Prowler on May 24, 2009, 01:04:35 PM
GREAT hire? Who knows. It's silly to think Ted Roof was a GREAT hire. Did you even know who the fucker was before Chizik hired him? I sure as hell didn't. Stop defending EVERY fucking thing the man does...

I will agree with Kaos on you that in that you think everything Chizik touches is the "BEST GOD DAMN FUCKING THING EVER...WAR GOD DAMN EAGLE"


I've known who Coach Roof was since he was the DC at Georgia Tech back about 7 or 8 years ago.  And, yes everything that Coach Chizik has done so far has been great for Auburn.  Every coaching hire, that Coach Chizik has made, has been a great one.  This is the best put together staff that Auburn has had in a long time, maybe ever.  And none of this is coming from sunshine pumpers, it's the simple truth.  I swear, some of you people need to really open your eyes and see what kind of coaching staff that we now have at Auburn....Go to the Fan Day, meet some of 'em, you'll see what I'm talking about.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: Kaos on May 24, 2009, 02:11:09 PM
I've known who Coach Roof was since he was the DC at Georgia Tech back about 7 or 8 years ago.  And, yes everything that Coach Chizik has done so far has been great for Auburn.  Every coaching hire, that Coach Chizik has made, has been a great one.  This is the best put together staff that Auburn has had in a long time, maybe ever.  And none of this is coming from sunshine pumpers, it's the simple truth.  I swear, some of you people need to really open your eyes and see what kind of coaching staff that we now have at Auburn....Go to the Fan Day, meet some of 'em, you'll see what I'm talking about.

 :blink:
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: The Prowler on May 24, 2009, 02:49:27 PM
:blink:
:taunt:
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: Snaggletiger on May 24, 2009, 02:52:44 PM
Hey everybody...Emoticon fight!!! :box:
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: The Prowler on May 24, 2009, 03:01:03 PM
 :tits:
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: El Guapo on May 25, 2009, 11:23:59 AM
This is the best put together staff ON PAPER that Auburn has had in a long time, maybe ever.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: RWS on May 25, 2009, 12:44:36 PM
Hey rws....did you just say that no money was involved in Books-A-Million?

Check out the top of Page 6 and tell me how many Zeros is in that number... (http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/assets/pdf/TL1527835.PDF)
Dipshit.

If you had two connected brain cells, you would realize that they are not saying the students sold the books and made money off of them. They are simply saying that the value of the impermissable books received were worth X amount of dollars. If you would read further into the NCAA documents, they specifically state that no students sold the books or otherwise made a profit from them, and that all books had been returned or paid for at the time of that statement sent to the NCAA. You don't even know what the value of the books were because it is marked out. Even though you can tell some of that which is marked out is text due to some of the tops not being marked out, I love how you try and spin that. I provided a link sometime back with about 100 pages or so worth of information to and from the NCAA. Perhaps you should become informed about something before you develop a case of diarrhea at the mouth.

Also, in the document provided, that gives some proof to what I have been saying to those who have loved to throw around the term "lack of institutional control" in describing that the NCAA is going after Alabama for.

Quote
Further, this allegation provides the foundation for a charge of failure to monitor, as set forth in Allegation No. 2.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: RWS on May 25, 2009, 12:50:48 PM
I've known who Coach Roof was since he was the DC at Georgia Tech back about 7 or 8 years ago.  And, yes everything that Coach Chizik has done so far has been great for Auburn.  Every coaching hire, that Coach Chizik has made, has been a great one.  This is the best put together staff that Auburn has had in a long time, maybe ever.  And none of this is coming from sunshine pumpers, it's the simple truth.  I swear, some of you people need to really open your eyes and see what kind of coaching staff that we now have at Auburn....Go to the Fan Day, meet some of 'em, you'll see what I'm talking about.
At this point, they have not proven shit. Now, are they going to go win every single game by fifty-hojillion points this season? Who knows. But to label them as the best staff at AU in a long time, when they haven't even stepped on the field against their first opponent yet; thats quite lofty. Especially for somebody who originally compared Chizik's hiring to the Hindenberg for AU. You big ol' waffler, you.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: AUChizad on May 26, 2009, 12:03:26 AM
At this point, they have not proven shit. Now, are they going to go win every single game by fifty-hojillion points this season? Who knows. But to label them as the best staff at AU in a long time, when they haven't even stepped on the field against their first opponent yet; thats quite lofty. Especially for somebody who originally compared Chizik's hiring to the Hindenberg for AU. You big ol' waffler, you.
That was me. Get your wafflers straight.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: Kaos on May 26, 2009, 12:06:18 AM
That was me. Get your wafflers straight.

One's just scattered. 

The others?  They're scattered, covered, chunked, smothered and fucked. 
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: Jumbo on May 26, 2009, 03:15:23 AM
One's just scattered. 

The others?  They're scattered, covered, chunked, smothered and fucked. 
Waffle House sure hits the spot.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: Greaseyweasel on May 26, 2009, 06:39:40 AM
I've known who Coach Roof was since he was the DC at Georgia Tech back about 7 or 8 years ago.  And, yes everything that Coach Chizik has done so far has been great for Auburn.  Every coaching hire, that Coach Chizik has made, has been a great one.  This is the best put together staff that Auburn has had in a long time, maybe ever.  And none of this is coming from sunshine pumpers, it's the simple truth.  I swear, some of you people need to really open your eyes and see what kind of coaching staff that we now have at Auburn....Go to the Fan Day, meet some of 'em, you'll see what I'm talking about.
So the things that you have seen and think you know carry more weight than the things I have seen and personnally know.....yeah right.
Dude, if I were a bammer I would still be changing my depends every single time that I thought about this whole entire hire.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: RWS on May 26, 2009, 10:44:40 AM
That was me. Get your wafflers straight.
I think some of you would be well served by re-reading this thread from when Chizik was hired
http://www.tigersx.com/forum/index.php?topic=3935.0 (http://www.tigersx.com/forum/index.php?topic=3935.0)

I'm hearing that the paper work has been signed by everyone except for Gouge....Chizik will be coming to Auburn.  If this is True.....The Auburn fanbase will Riot in Auburn and I'll be at the front of the pack. Get ready to see some UAB size attendances...first come, first serve.  Also, TPTB just waved the white flag for the upcoming Ironbowls and recruiting.  Hindenburg II

Who is going to be at the front of the pack of the riot? Is that Prowler? Say it ain't so! From Hindenburg II to walking on water and swimming through land in a matter of months, with not a damn thing to show for it. Hilarious. But hey, Chad, if you want to be a waffler too, thats cool.

From another thread:
Fuck a mid-major coach.

We're better than that.

Mike Leach is looking pretty fucking good compared to Chizik I bet....At least you could say the guy has won some games as a head coach and brings something to the table. 5 wins in two years in the Big 12 doesn't give you much leverage to argue with. Especially with losses against teams such as Northern Iowa, Kent State, UNLV, Baylor, etc....You can claim "well, he will have superior talent at AU" all you want, but he couldn't win at Iowa State with superior talent compared to his opponents. Why is it all of a sudden going to work out at AU, especially when the last staff stated that AU was lacking talent in key areas?
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: Snaggletiger on May 26, 2009, 10:57:27 AM
The problem though, is that he WAS hired and he WILL be our corch this year.  I don't know of a soul, Prowler included, who wanted this hire.  I think everyone was pretty clear about that.  However, most people, Prowler included, have realized Chizik is the man, like it or not.  And you can either get behind him and Auburn Football 100% and look for the positives since he's been here....or you can gloom and doom your way through life...as if a corching selection affects your livelihood and well being in some strange way.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: The Prowler on May 26, 2009, 12:02:21 PM
And when the fanbase was brought together in their hatred for the hire, the bammer mouth piece PF kept bashing the hire over and over and over and over and over.  At first, the Auburn fanbase was in agreement with the bashing, until the bammers starting chiming in, that's when most of the fanbase decided to turn their attention away from the hire and towards their hatred for anything PF and the mouthbreathers.  Then everyone stated, "lets see who he brings in as his assistants."  And so far, Coach Chizik hasn't done anything to flip that hatred back onto him and his record.  When you have assistants leave their alma maters and/or where they played college football, then they see something in Auburn.

I felt that when Coach Malzahn was hired as the OC, that's when a lot of the fanbase started changing their tune, because they knew how good of a coach he was at Arkansas and at Tulsa.  Then when Coach Trooper and Coach Rocker were brought on board, that got the rest to change their tune...from pitchforks, fire & brimstone, kill everyone to lets see what these coaches can do.  Also, when we landed QB Tyrik Rollison, WRs Emory Blake, DeAngelo Benton and were in the Top two for RB David Oku, I think that opened some people's eyes even more.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: Jumbo on May 26, 2009, 12:57:04 PM
The problem though, is that he WAS hired and he WILL be our corch this year.  I don't know of a soul, Prowler included, who wanted this hire.  I think everyone was pretty clear about that.  However, most people, Prowler included, have realized Chizik is the man, like it or not.  And you can either get behind him and Auburn Football 100% and look for the positives since he's been here....or you can gloom and doom your way through life...as if a corching selection affects your livelihood and well being in some strange way.
I agree corch.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: wesfau2 on May 26, 2009, 02:21:14 PM

From another thread:
Mike Leach is looking pretty fucking good compared to Chizik I bet....At least you could say the guy has won some games as a head coach and brings something to the table. 5 wins in two years in the Big 12 doesn't give you much leverage to argue with. Especially with losses against teams such as Northern Iowa, Kent State, UNLV, Baylor, etc....You can claim "well, he will have superior talent at AU" all you want, but he couldn't win at Iowa State with superior talent compared to his opponents. Why is it all of a sudden going to work out at AU, especially when the last staff stated that AU was lacking talent in key areas?

I stand by my statement.  I also do not want Leach anywhere near the AU program.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: RWS on May 26, 2009, 02:58:03 PM
And when the fanbase was brought together in their hatred for the hire, the bammer mouth piece PF kept bashing the hire over and over and over and over and over.  At first, the Auburn fanbase was in agreement with the bashing, until the bammers starting chiming in, that's when most of the fanbase decided to turn their attention away from the hire and towards their hatred for anything PF and the mouthbreathers.  Then everyone stated, "lets see who he brings in as his assistants."  And so far, Coach Chizik hasn't done anything to flip that hatred back onto him and his record.  When you have assistants leave their alma maters and/or where they played college football, then they see something in Auburn.

I felt that when Coach Malzahn was hired as the OC, that's when a lot of the fanbase started changing their tune, because they knew how good of a coach he was at Arkansas and at Tulsa.  Then when Coach Trooper and Coach Rocker were brought on board, that got the rest to change their tune...from pitchforks, fire & brimstone, kill everyone to lets see what these coaches can do.  Also, when we landed QB Tyrik Rollison, WRs Emory Blake, DeAngelo Benton and were in the Top two for RB David Oku, I think that opened some people's eyes even more.
Why is it OK to point out assistants leaving their alma maters and/or where they played college ball because they "see" something in AU, but James Willis was ran into the ground and labeled Benedict Arnold for doing the same? The whole Willis situation was fucked up as a football bat from the word go, and that was thanks to Chizik imo. We want you, wait, we don't want you now, oh wait, we want you again because getting rid of you might fuck our recruiting up. I think Willis saw it for what it was, and decided he didn't want any part of it. You could just as easily say that he knew things were going to be fucked up and that drove him to leave his alma mater for its rival. There is more behind that story than either of us will ever know.  

As far as Malzahn at Arkansas, Nutt never gave him full control of anything. You posted a link a while back of a looooong document detailing the whole Malzahn and Company experience there, and it pretty much supports that. Nutt's whole reasoning for not giving him the offensive reigns was because, according to him, his style of play would not work in the SEC. I'm not so sure I would consider Nutt an expert or anything, so consider the source. There is no denying that Tulsa's offense put up some lofty numbers on offense. However, their offense was not bulletproof. When playing better teams, such as Oklahoma (21 pts scored), Arkansas (23 pts scored), East Carolina (24 pts scored), those defenses did OK and beat Tulsa. In 2007, UCF managed to limit Tulsa's offense to 25 points and under in their two meetings that season. I'm sure that Malzahn will have better talent at AU than he did at Tulsa in some positions, but that doesn't automatically equal success when you factor in that he will be facing defenses that are alot better than what he saw at Tulsa as well. Its a sliding scale that goes both ways.

Trooper Taylor has nothing in his history that is incredibly remarkable. On Rivals they do not list coaches who recruited a player in the 05 class or before, so I'm working with what I have. On the recruiting side, in 06 he brought in three 3* players for the Vols, an OL, and two LBs. The OL, Jarrod Shaw, has played in 2 games in 3 years. One of the LBs, LaMarcus Thompson, has played 26 games over 3 years with 20 tackles. The other LB, Gerald Williams, played in 10 games in 08 and had 12 tackles.  In 07 he brought in Eric Berry and four other recruits. Other than Berry, the only ones still on the roster are Ahmad Paige and Denarius Moore. Paige has played on third team in two games and has no statistics. Moore played as a backup in 07 and in 08 and has 25 receptions for 483 yards over 26 games. Taylor had nothing to speak of at OSU.

Nothing all that remarkable about Tracy Rocker either, except that you have some sort of mancrush on him. The best that Arky's defense was with him as line coach was second best in the SEC I think. He had some accomplishments when he played for AU and all, but I haven't seen anything to lead me to believe that he is some extraordinary out of this world coach. I'm not saying he's automatically a horrible coach either, fwiw.

As far as Rollison, the kid can flat out ball. I don't think anybody can question that. The problem with that is, alot of schools weren't willing to risk it on a kid who made a 13 on the ACT the first two times he took it. Grades were a real issue for him, and you could tell by his offer list. Plus, Luper had already been recruiting him to OSU before he came to AU, so don't paint it as a picture of this staff came in fresh and went out and recruited this guy blindly. Luper and Taylor were familiar with him, and Luper had been recruiting him to start with. Anyway, his two finalists were Kansas St. and AU. Which one would you pick? He is from Texas, and they didn't even offer him. Regardless of grades, he's a baller and a good pickup for AU.

Emory Blake, same deal. Malzahn had recruited him to Tulsa, and he said Malzahn was his main reason for signing with AU when Malzahn made the move. If the kid was going to go to Tulsa because of Malzahn, he would be stupid to not go to AU. AU > Tulsa. His high school runs a similar system to the one Malzahn runs, so another plus for him. His offer list wasn't all that gaudy either.

DeAngelo Benton? The same one that LSU finally gave up on after waiting for two years for him to make his grades? A Kerry Murphy story if I ever heard one. Regardless, I would mark it as a good pickup for AU. Not sure if he will be able to grasp the playbook, but we shall see.

As far as David Oku goes, I know you get caught up in the whole "Well, we ALMOST got....." thing, but it doesn't count unless they actually commit or sign with your team. I could say that Alabama ALMOST got Tebow, but what difference does that make? He didn't pick Alabama, and he's doing just fine at Florida.

Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: RWS on May 26, 2009, 02:59:27 PM
I stand by my statement.  I also do not want Leach anywhere near the AU program.
Is Pat Dye really that much better to have involved in the program? Tuberville was smart to keep him away, if you ask me.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: Saniflush on May 26, 2009, 03:08:23 PM
Is Pat Dye really that much better to have involved in the program? Tuberville was smart to keep him away, if you ask me.

The part that few people realize is how unattached to the program Dye is these days.  Vastly overstated.
Title: Re: Saban 1 - Limo 0
Post by: RWS on May 26, 2009, 03:23:26 PM
The part that few people realize is how unattached to the program Dye is these days.  Vastly overstated.
Really? Even after he said in an interview that this is the most welcomed he has been to the program in years? From the rumors floating around on message boards that I saw, Dye was involved in the coaching selection process. How true that is, your guess is as good as mine. Simply message board fodder. Personally, I wouldn't want a coach who was at the helm when players were being paid and other infractions occurred having anything to do with the program.
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Post by: wesfau2 on May 26, 2009, 03:28:40 PM

 Nutt's whole reasoning for not giving him the offensive reigns was because, according to him, his style of play would not work in the SEC. I'm not so sure I would consider Nutt an expert or anything, so consider the source.

You don't have a proper understanding of this entire situation.  Nutt's stated reason was bullshit, because Malzahn's offense (with a true Fr QB) went 8-0 before Nutt threw the handcuffs on Malzahn and yanked Mitch Mustain.  The man is an insufferable egomaniac who couldn't stand that a "high school coach" was getting the adoration of the fans.
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Post by: Buzz Killington on May 26, 2009, 03:32:30 PM
Really? Even after he said in an interview that this is the most welcomed he has been to the program in years? From the rumors floating around on message boards that I saw, Dye was involved in the coaching selection process. How true that is, your guess is as good as mine. Simply message board fodder. Personally, I wouldn't want a coach who was at the helm when players were being paid and other infractions occurred having anything to do with the program.

You have no idea how much this made me chortle.
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Post by: Snaggletiger on May 26, 2009, 03:37:24 PM
Really? Even after he said in an interview that this is the most welcomed he has been to the program in years? From the rumors floating around on message boards that I saw, Dye was involved in the coaching selection process. How true that is, your guess is as good as mine. Simply message board fodder. Personally, I wouldn't want a coach who was at the helm when players were being paid and other infractions occurred having anything to do with the program.

Sani knows far more than I when it comes to Pat Dye and young, school girls.  His family actually knows the man (and a few of the girls) very well and I'd take his word for that.  My take from afar is that he is given the opportunity for input about issues like the coaching search.  Who better than a former Auburn Corch to give input?  However, I think input and influence should not be confused.  There's a huge difference in saying, "Corch, what do you think..." and giving a former coach the power to say, "This is how it's gonna' be..."

I have no doubt his opinion played a part in Chizik's hire.  But I also believe if they truly wanted to go in another direction, they would have.  
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Post by: Saniflush on May 26, 2009, 03:41:04 PM
Really? Even after he said in an interview that this is the most welcomed he has been to the program in years?
He has said that on more than one occasion and I believe it to be true.  I personally think it would be a travesty to not have him attached to a program that he himself resurrected like a phoenix.


Dye was involved in the coaching selection process.
False.

Personally, I wouldn't want a coach who was at the helm when players were being paid and other infractions occurred having anything to do with the program.

Doesn't Gene Stallings come back semi regularly?  
Dye certainly had to take the ultimate blame for what happened on his watch.  Anyone who is a leader has to.  
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Post by: RWS on May 26, 2009, 03:42:03 PM
You have no idea how much this made me chortle.
Like I said. Simply message board fodder.
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Post by: JR4AU on May 26, 2009, 04:02:07 PM
The problem though, is that he WAS hired and he WILL be our corch this year.  I don't know of a soul, Prowler included, who wanted this hire.  I think everyone was pretty clear about that.  However, most people, Prowler included, have realized Chizik is the man, like it or not.  And you can either get behind him and Auburn Football 100% and look for the positives since he's been here....or you can gloom and doom your way through life...as if a corching selection affects your livelihood and well being in some strange way.

Yep.  I made my call to Jacob's office the monday following the hire.  I voiced my displeasure, and was real quick in discovering that they didn't give a hoot in hell how I or anyone else felt about the hire.  So, what are you going to do?  Well I sat back, talked with my Auburn friends about it, and it's pretty much universal that they felt the same way, but unlike some greasey dumbfuck here, know there's NOTHING that can be done about it right now.  Then we heard the praises of the people he hired, and it seemed he was serious about putting together a quality staff.  Unlike Mullen and Kiffen, he hasn't run his cock-holster and embarassed the school.  So there's that.  And the bottom line is he's most likely the coach for at least the next 2 years come hell or high water.   I figure that as long as he maintains just what he did in recruiting this past season, then Auburn will be no worse for the wear, and if he recruits a couple  of top 10 classes, but can't win on the field, he's like our Ron Zook and leaves the program better than he found it for the next coach.  Could he run it in the ground? I guess so.  I'm not betting on it, and certainly not hoping for it. 
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Post by: Godfather on May 26, 2009, 04:06:51 PM
Yep.  I made my call to Jacob's office the monday following the hire.  I voiced my displeasure, and was real quick in discovering that they didn't give a hoot in hell how I or anyone else felt about the hire.  So, what are you going to do?  Well I sat back, talked with my Auburn friends about it, and it's pretty much universal that they felt the same way, but unlike some greasey dumbfuck here, know there's NOTHING that can be done about it right now.  Then we heard the praises of the people he hired, and it seemed he was serious about putting together a quality staff.  Unlike Mullen and Kiffen, he hasn't run his cock-holster and embarassed the school.  So there's that.  And the bottom line is he's most likely the coach for at least the next 2 years come hell or high water.   I figure that as long as he maintains just what he did in recruiting this past season, then Auburn will be no worse for the wear, and if he recruits a couple  of top 10 classes, but can't win on the field, he's like our Ron Zook and leaves the program better than he found it for the next coach.  Could he run it in the ground? I guess so.  I'm not betting on it, and certainly not hoping for it. 

POST OF THE EARLY SUMMER...Nice Job.
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Post by: wesfau2 on May 26, 2009, 04:09:18 PM
I figure that as long as he maintains just what he did in recruiting this past season, then Auburn will be no worse for the wear, and if he recruits a couple  of top 10 classes, but can't win on the field, he's like our Ron Zook and leaves the program better than he found it for the next coach.

Ha...that's an angle I had not considered.  Ron Zook...interesting.
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Post by: RWS on May 26, 2009, 04:09:22 PM
Doesn't Gene Stallings come back semi regularly?  
Dye certainly had to take the ultimate blame for what happened on his watch.  Anyone who is a leader has to.  

To the best of my recollection, none of Stallings' assistants were paying money to a player or arranged loans for a player.
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Post by: wesfau2 on May 26, 2009, 04:10:14 PM
To the best of my recollection, none of Stallings' assistants were paying money to a player or arranged loans for a player.

It's just understood that every coach's staff/underlings/minions at bama pays players. 

Did you not get the memo when you signed up here?
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Post by: Snaggletiger on May 26, 2009, 04:13:11 PM
That's true, but keep it down home cuz..
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Post by: RWS on May 26, 2009, 04:17:19 PM
It's just understood that every coach's staff/underlings/minions at bama pays players. 

Did you not get the memo when you signed up here?
Apparently not. Why don't you fuckers keep people in the loop around here?
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Post by: wesfau2 on May 26, 2009, 04:18:20 PM
Apparently not. Why don't you fuckers keep people in the loop around here?

We'll make sure you get a copy.

Now, let's talk about your TPS reports.
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Post by: Hogwally on May 26, 2009, 04:39:25 PM
So the things that you have seen and think you know carry more weight than the things I have seen and personnally know.....yeah right.

     Uh oh, look out!! We've come across the double secret Chizik slept with my sister/wife if only I could tell you deepthroat who killed JFK information again!!

     I am not smart enough to do it, but can someone start a poll to see what everyone thinks Greezybammer's secret info on Chizik would reveal?
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Post by: Godfather on May 26, 2009, 04:48:27 PM
     Uh oh, look out!! We've come across the double secret Chizik slept with my sister/wife if only I could tell you deepthroat who killed JFK information again!!

     I am not smart enough to do it, but can someone start a poll to see what everyone thinks Greezybammer's secret info on Chizik would reveal?
Even after winning his 2 State HS Championships... DB GWeasel is denied a scholarship on the 2003 Auburn Football team?
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Post by: JR4AU on May 26, 2009, 05:27:41 PM
Ha...that's an angle I had not considered.  Ron Zook...interesting.

At this point, I think that is the most likely senario.  Lots of noise, lots of fanfare, good recruiting, and sub-par to average on the field performances. 

Another thing to consider is this.  To better what he replaced, he's going to have to win 2 SECCs and one NC in his first 5 seasons.  That's a tall order for any coach. 

I hope I'm wrong, and I don't want him to fail, but if he does, it better damn well be a 2 for 1 deal, and cost Jacobs his job too!
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Post by: JR4AU on May 26, 2009, 05:33:49 PM
     Uh oh, look out!! We've come across the double secret Chizik slept with my sister/wife if only I could tell you deepthroat who killed JFK information again!!

     I am not smart enough to do it, but can someone start a poll to see what everyone thinks Greezybammer's secret info on Chizik would reveal?

That moron fuckstick doesn't personally know jack shit about Chizik. 
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Post by: RWS on May 26, 2009, 05:40:04 PM
At this point, I think that is the most likely senario.  Lots of noise, lots of fanfare, good recruiting, and sub-par to average on the field performances. 

Another thing to consider is this.  To better what he replaced, he's going to have to win 2 SECCs and one NC in his first 5 seasons.  That's a tall order for any coach. 

I hope I'm wrong, and I don't want him to fail, but if he does, it better damn well be a 2 for 1 deal, and cost Jacobs his job too!
Interesting way of looking at it. I agree that filling CTT's shoes will be tough. I still think getting rid of CTT was an uber-stupid move on AU's part though. I could understand if it was somebody that was a clear-cut step up. I was a little worried at first because I thought if they were getting rid of CTT, then they must have somebody pretty damn good waiting. I'm glad I was (hopefully) wrong.
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Post by: JR4AU on May 26, 2009, 06:44:24 PM
Interesting way of looking at it. I agree that filling CTT's shoes will be tough. I still think getting rid of CTT was an uber-stupid move on AU's part though. I could understand if it was somebody that was a clear-cut step up. I was a little worried at first because I thought if they were getting rid of CTT, then they must have somebody pretty damn good waiting. I'm glad I was (hopefully) wrong.

Knowing what I believe I know, and believing what I believe...Tuberville's time had run it's course, and he chose to be forced out by refusing to make any changes on a stagnant staff.  I used to be an advocate of keeping coaches around through down times, a la Jeff Fisher at the Titans or Cowher at the Steelers...or even Joe Pa...but Tuberville needed a change.  I think in an ideal world Tuberville would liked to have taken a couple of years off and come back, but you you know wha they say, "You can't go back home again".  2004 took all the wind out of Tubs sails.  Those type seasons are once in a career, and to have come away cheated like he did, I think he felt like he was kicked in the nuts, especially in light of Jet Gate, and the way some Auburn people would still say "When is he going to get us to the next level?"  Is there another "level" past undefeated in the SEC?  What the fuck is it? 

By the way, Tubs will be back coaching at a major program within 2 years.  Auburn people are going to shit their britches when he wins a national championship somewhere like Miami. 
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Post by: RWS on May 26, 2009, 07:23:38 PM
Knowing what I believe I know, and believing what I believe...Tuberville's time had run it's course, and he chose to be forced out by refusing to make any changes on a stagnant staff.  I used to be an advocate of keeping coaches around through down times, a la Jeff Fisher at the Titans or Cowher at the Steelers...or even Joe Pa...but Tuberville needed a change.  I think in an ideal world Tuberville would liked to have taken a couple of years off and come back, but you you know wha they say, "You can't go back home again".  2004 took all the wind out of Tubs sails.  Those type seasons are once in a career, and to have come away cheated like he did, I think he felt like he was kicked in the nuts, especially in light of Jet Gate, and the way some Auburn people would still say "When is he going to get us to the next level?"  Is there another "level" past undefeated in the SEC?  What the fuck is it? 

By the way, Tubs will be back coaching at a major program within 2 years.  Auburn people are going to shit their britches when he wins a national championship somewhere like Miami. 
Sounds like a Mike Shula type situation, except Shula really had nothing backing him as a negotiating piece. The only thing I've ever had against CTT is he beat us 6 years in a row. I don't get all pissed off about the holding up X amount of fingers thing. Its all part of the rivalry. When he held up 7 fingers before the 08 Iron Bowl it still wasn't classless, but only an ironic memory after the ass whipping that ensued.

In your opinion, how much did that push to get a less stagnant staff and make other changes have to do with what was happening in Tuscaloosa?
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Post by: Greaseyweasel on May 26, 2009, 07:25:31 PM
Coach T's time had came and gone. I saw it, hell everybody saw it.
If you know something is coming up though why in the world would you not prepare yourself, your school and future generations to be better off?
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Post by: Saniflush on May 26, 2009, 08:22:39 PM
To the best of my recollection, none of Stallings' assistants were paying money to a player or arranged loans for a player.

and yet that is not what you said. 
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Post by: Ogre on May 26, 2009, 11:12:46 PM
I'll be willing to bet that Tubs will be the HC at Texas A&M next season...unless their current coach pulls a 9+ win season out of his ass this year.

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Post by: Kaos on May 27, 2009, 09:36:23 AM
To the best of my recollection, none of Stallings' assistants were paying money to a player or arranged loans for a player.


Your knowledge is false. 

Really? Even after he (Dye) said in an interview that this is the most welcomed he has been to the program in years?

I was at a coaching clinic in Auburn the second year after Tuberville was hired.  Dye was there. He had his arm around Tuberville's shoulder, praised him to high heaven and said exactly the same thing. He was "finally welcome in the football complex again..." 
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Post by: Kaos on May 27, 2009, 09:38:59 AM
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The problem though, is that he WAS hired and he WILL be our corch this year.  I don't know of a soul, Prowler included, who wanted this hire.  I think everyone was pretty clear about that.  However, most people, Prowler included, have realized Chizik is the man, like it or not.  And you can either get behind him and Auburn Football 100% and look for the positives since he's been here....or you can gloom and doom your way through life...as if a corching selection affects your livelihood and well being in some strange way.

Not exactly. 

There's a difference between resigned acceptance to what is and blindly supporting it because it is. 

I'm behind Auburn 1000%.  But Auburn is not Gene Chizik or Jay Jacobs or Chizad or Prowler or you or me.
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Post by: JR4AU on May 27, 2009, 10:18:22 AM
Sounds like a Mike Shula type situation, except Shula really had nothing backing him as a negotiating piece. The only thing I've ever had against CTT is he beat us 6 years in a row. I don't get all pissed off about the holding up X amount of fingers thing. Its all part of the rivalry. When he held up 7 fingers before the 08 Iron Bowl it still wasn't classless, but only an ironic memory after the ass whipping that ensued.

In your opinion, how much did that push to get a less stagnant staff and make other changes have to do with what was happening in Tuscaloosa?

What was "happening" in Tuscaloosa surely factored in, and in a number of ways.  Not in the way you hear on the net or talk radio like "Tubs was skeered".  It was just another team in the SEC improving it's level of competition.   It happened to be our in state rival.  It was not the determining factor.
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Post by: JR4AU on May 27, 2009, 10:21:09 AM
I'll be willing to bet that Tubs will be the HC at Texas A&M next season...unless their current coach pulls a 9+ win season out of his ass this year.



Could be, but I hope he holds out for a better job.  Nobody has won at TA&M in a decade.  It's not likely to start now with the likes of TX and OU dominating, and OSU and Tx Tech competing.  I don't know what the malfuncion is at A&M, but it's not a good job now.
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Post by: RWS on May 27, 2009, 10:23:48 AM
What was "happening" in Tuscaloosa surely factored in, and in a number of ways.  Not in the way you hear on the net or talk radio like "Tubs was skeered".  It was just another team in the SEC improving it's level of competition.   It happened to be our in state rival.  It was not the determining factor.
I agree, I don't think CTT was skeered as much as the BOT, AD, etc paniced. I think it was manageable until the Iron Bowl, then everything boiled over. Personally, I wouldn't say that what was happening in Tuscaloosa was THE determining factor, but I think it played a decent sized role in the administration's decision to at least push CTT to make certain changes, whatever those may have been.  
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Post by: JR4AU on May 27, 2009, 11:22:46 AM
I agree, I don't think CTT was skeered as much as the BOT, AD, etc paniced. I think it was manageable until the Iron Bowl, then everything boiled over. Personally, I wouldn't say that what was happening in Tuscaloosa was THE determining factor, but I think it played a decent sized role in the administration's decision to at least push CTT to make certain changes, whatever those may have been.  

The changes were long overdue.  When he fired Borges, he should have canned Knox and Ensminger at the very least, and a clean sweep of the offensive staff, except maybe Gran, would have made sense too.  That is not to say he should have allowed Franklin to bring his own staff.  Contrary to what you keep hearing people say, that just doesn't happen.  Everybody called Tubs a "CEO" type coach.  Well, he was too close to his core asst. coaches.  And they were too happy being position coaches for life.   Turnover on a staff is a good thing if it's because your ACs are moving up to bigger jobs.  Stagnation on a staff is often confused with stability.  Bryant surrounded himself with guys that wanted to be head coaches, and he was happy to help them get any HC job in the country except his.
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Post by: AUChizad on September 30, 2009, 11:26:30 PM
Bumping another classic thread.
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Post by: Snaggletiger on September 30, 2009, 11:37:43 PM
Bumping another classic thread.


Bump, bump a bump.
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Post by: Kaos on October 01, 2009, 01:34:28 PM
Bumping another classic thread.

For what purpose?  

What's the point?  
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Post by: RWS on October 01, 2009, 02:02:09 PM
Bumping another classic thread.
So, wait.....you propose that after 5 months, and Sanders being committed to Alabama for that amount of time, you ultimately believe that the limo is what tipped the scales back to AU? I can't think of any other reason for bumping this thread. He committed to Alabama and stayed that way for 5 months. Whats your point?
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Post by: Godfather on October 02, 2009, 03:58:39 PM
So, wait.....you propose that after 5 months, and Sanders being committed to Alabama for that amount of time, you ultimately believe that the limo is what tipped the scales back to AU? I can't think of any other reason for bumping this thread. He committed to Alabama and stayed that way for 5 months. Whats your point?
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