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http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_college/2009/05/should-ncaa-investigate-auburns-white-stretch-limo.html (http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_college/2009/05/should-ncaa-investigate-auburns-white-stretch-limo.html)
UPDATE: Auburn blog takes issue with Meyer, calls recruits "straight from the streets of Miami"
posted by Andrea Adelson on May 4, 2009 8:51:44 AM
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It seems Auburn is willing to do anything to jump start its recruiting in Mobile, Ala. According to the Mobile (Ala.) Press-Register, Auburn assistants permitted to make recruiting visits last week jumped into a white stretch limo, stuck Auburn decals on the side and headed down to Mobile.
Auburn went to several high schools to look at student-athletes. The goal was to generate interest in Auburn, where people would stop, turn and wonder why are there Auburn decals on that limo? (Shown right, from ESPN.com)
Do white stretch limos still have the same appeal to high school recruits today? Maybe they should have piled in to a stretch Hummer.
Florida Gators coach Urban Meyer took notice and was not pleased with the recruiting ploy. He told Pat Dooley of The Gainesville Sun the NCAA should look into what Auburn did. Meyer said, "I think it should," when asked if the NCAA will get involved. "We're trying to sell graduation rates and academics and trying the sing and dance routine.
"The Florida coaching staff will not be riding around in limos or ripping off our shirts." (A reference to a report that Tennessee coaches took off their shirts in the presence of recruits).
Now an Auburn sports blog has taken issue with Meyer's comments, ripping the coach for calling on the NCAA to look into the limos. Track Em Tigers says: "I talked to a recruit who attended the Florida-South Carolina game last year and he said he actually put his wallet in his front pocket because of the recruits who were there visiting. He said they were cast straight from the streets of Miami. The only thing Urban Meyer is trying to do is win football games. Don't give us this crap about graduation rates and academics."
Straight from the streets of Miami? That comment couldn't be any more racist or insulting. Whatever issue you have with Meyer, it is completely ridiculous to start calling their recruits "straight from the streets of Miami."
Gator fans, let's hear from you.
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So many issues here....
One, the Gainsville Sun article that spawned all of this read:
STRETCHING RULES: You may have read where Auburn used stretch limos to parade recruits around the state of Alabama. The idea was that the limos would not only appeal to the kids but get Auburn plenty of attention because of the decals on the limos
Parade the recruits around? This is obviously false, or at best misinformation.
Secondly, the author of the Trackem Tigers article is right. He said it best:
There's no question that Meyer is one of the top coaches in America. There's little doubt his program is among the top five nationally. But to say, "We're trying to sell graduation rates and academics" is like Nick Saban saying he can't find Gadsden on a map. It just doesn't fly.
And third...racist? It's racist to say someone is a thug because they're from Miami? What race? The U, for example, is full of thugs from every shade of the rainbow. Are we going to pretend that Miami is not the crime-ridden city that was the subject of Scarface because that's being racially insensitive somehow?
Ridiculous...
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If we could get our hands on Philippine foreskin he wouldn't have an issue with it.
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So long as the ball players don't ride around in the limo, what's the big deal?
Urban just doesn't want to compete with anyone for 5 stars.
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Isn't Urban the one that was so sensitive about Kiffin calling him out on something incorrect? Maybe HE should go and read about the correct info before spouting off. Douche.
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So long as the ball players don't ride around in the limo, what's the big deal?
Urban just doesn't want to compete with anyone for 5 stars.
Resident hispanic (and bammer to boot): Do you think referring to recruits as "straight out of Miami" is a racial slur?
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Resident hispanic (and bammer to boot): Do you think referring to recruits as "straight out of Miami" is a racial slur?
I'm not actually Hispanic, just attractive.
But no, I don't think "straight out of Miami" is a big deal. I try not to get worked up over garbage like that.
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I'm not actually Hispanic, just attractive.
But no, I don't think "straight out of Miami" is a big deal. I try not to get worked up over garbage like that.
Does Meyer recruit Compton?
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I'm not actually Hispanic, just attractive.
But no, I don't think "straight out of Miami" is a big deal. I try not to get worked up over garbage like that.
"Just attractive" I lol'd. :vn:
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I think the Prowl did push the envelope a bit on its tactics.
The part of student/recruits being called from class to meet the coaches raises the ante on the bumping into deal.
The fact that this was widely publicized negates anything being done on the sly, though.
Its all in the semantics, but you can expect some adversaries to cry foul. If anything comes from this it should be a mere slap on the wrist. The positive publicity will outweigh this. I think yall did good.
I'm telling yall in the next few year its gonna be us and yall toting the big stick. Fuck Bama and LSU. They are on their way down.
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I think the Prowl did push the envelope a bit on its tactics.
The part of student/recruits being called from class to meet the coaches raises the ante on the bumping into deal.
The fact that this was widely publicized negates anything being done on the sly, though.
Its all in the semantics, but you can expect some adversaries to cry foul. If anything comes from this it should be a mere slap on the wrist. The positive publicity will outweigh this. I think yall did good.
I'm telling yall in the next few year its gonna be us and yall toting the big stick. Fuck Bama and LSU. They are on their way down.
I like the way you think, son.
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Urban admits to being dumas.
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_college_uf/2009/05/bad-information-makes-meyer-look-bad-in-auburns-limo-gate.html#comments (http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_college_uf/2009/05/bad-information-makes-meyer-look-bad-in-auburns-limo-gate.html#comments)
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Urban admits to being dumas.
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_college_uf/2009/05/bad-information-makes-meyer-look-bad-in-auburns-limo-gate.html#comments (http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_college_uf/2009/05/bad-information-makes-meyer-look-bad-in-auburns-limo-gate.html#comments)
:rofl: Now that's some good background checking before you go and run it in the papers, or in Dooley's case, before you run to CUM and ask how he feels about it.
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One, the Gainsville Sun article that spawned all of this read:Parade the recruits around? This is obviously false, or at best misinformation.
That was my main beef with this whole thing. Spreading lies. I guess it's good they've corrected themselves and made them and CUM look like dipshits in the process...
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Now I wonder if ESPN will report how Urban's "jabs at Auburn" were incorrect, since they reported the "jabs" in the first place. I'm thinking no. :eyeroll:
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Now I wonder if ESPN will report how Urban's "jabs at Auburn" were incorrect, since they reported the "jabs" in the first place. I'm thinking no. :eyeroll:
So who's inbox should we flood?
In all seriousness, you'd think this would be a bigger story considering how much he lambasted Kiffin for doing basically the same thing: Running off at the mouth without knowing what the fuck he's talking about...
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This really pisses me off.
"War Eagle fans have corrected me with dozens of e-mails. My bad. Now calm down."
Do as I say, not as I do, Auburn. He wouldn't have accepted a "My bad. Now calm down," from Kiffin. He bitched about his misinformation to whoever would listen. And rightfully so. This is the exact same fucking thing.
And that elitist jab about how they're just concerned with graduation rates...Really? You mean the guys that run up dead girls credit cards? Or the ones that beat and strangled women (Link (http://www.tomahawknation.com/2008/11/4/653577/university-of-florida-gato))?
Hypocrisy, thy name is Urban Meyer. This really should be getting more press, just for the sheer hypocrisy of the whole situation, and Lord knows it was everywhere when Kiffin did the same fuckin thing to Florida...
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Joe Schad (sp?) was the one that reported the jabs on College Football Live last Friday I believe.
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This really should be getting more press, just for the sheer hypocrisy of the whole situation, and Lord knows it was everywhere when Kiffin did the same fuckin thing to Florida...
This should be getting further under my skin as well but it's just not doing it. Don't know why but outside of a small jab to one of the dillholes who commented under the article Wes posted I just haven't had the inclination to do so.
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At least one journalist gets it...
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_bianchi/2009/05/where-is-university-of-florida-football-coach-urban-meyers-apology-to-auburn---in-case-you-havent-heard-meyer-based-onwro.html (http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_bianchi/2009/05/where-is-university-of-florida-football-coach-urban-meyers-apology-to-auburn---in-case-you-havent-heard-meyer-based-onwro.html)
Urban Meyer needs to apologize to Auburn
posted by Mike Bianchi on May 6, 2009 8:35:28 AM
Where is University of Florida football coach Urban Meyer's apology to Auburn?
In case you haven't heard, Meyer, based on wrong information provided by Gainesville Sun sports columnist Pat Dooley, said the NCAA should investigate Auburn for potential violations regarding coaches traveling with recruits in limos (Dooley later acknowledged his error in print thusly: "When you make a mistake, you're going to hear it. Last week I had an item about Auburn coaches parading recruits around in limos. I obviously misread the story because it was Auburn coaches in the limos going from school to school.")
But it was Dooley's original question that got Meyer in trouble.
When asked by Dooley if Auburn coaches traveling with recruits in limos should be investigated, Meyer replied: "I think it should. We're trying to sell graduation rates and academics and trying the sing and dance routine. ... The Florida coaching staff will not be riding around in limos or ripping off our shirts."
The shirt comment was in response to Tennessee coach Lane Kiffin's assistant coaches ripping of their shirts in a show of motivational machismo during a recent on-campus visit with football recruits.
But the point is this. Meyer's information was incorrect just as Kiffin's information was incorrect several weeks ago when he accused Meyer of NCAA violations. Florida athletic director Jeremy Foley demanded a public apology from Kiffin and Kiffin was reprimanded by the SEC.
Granted, Kiffin seemed to drum up his misinformation about Meyer's recruiting tactics out of thin air while Meyer got his misinformation from a newspaper columnist.
Still, wrong is wrong.
What's good enough for the goose is good enough for the Gator.
Kiffin had to issue an apology and so should Meyer.
The comments from all the jorts below are hilariously egomaniacal and hypocritical.
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I suspect Scarbo's latest article is in reaction to all of this...
http://blog.al.com/kevin-scarbinsky/2009/05/despite_his_two_rings_urban_me.html (http://blog.al.com/kevin-scarbinsky/2009/05/despite_his_two_rings_urban_me.html)
Scarbinsky: Despite his two rings, Urban Meyer could learn a thing or two from Gene Chizik
Posted by Kevin Scarbinsky -- Birmingham News May 08, 2009 8:45 AM
There are two ways for a college football coach to react to criticism from one of his school's former players.
There's the Urban Meyer way and the Gene Chizik way.
To put it another way, there's the wrong way and the right way.
Skeletons have thicker skin than Meyer. The Florida coach used a recent Gator Club gathering to lecture former Florida players about loyalty.
"We want former Gators to come back, but loyalty's a two-way street," Meyer said. "If you want to be critical of a player on our team or a coach on our team, you can buy a ticket for seat 37F. You're not welcome back in the football office.
"You're either a Gator, or you're not a Gator. It's real simple."
Meyer didn't name names, but he didn't have to.
Shane Matthews, Steve Spurrier's first Florida quarterback, has a radio show in Gainesville. In doing his job, Matthews has failed to genuflect, kiss Meyer's championship rings and recognize Pope Urban as infallible in all things football.
Last season alone, especially before and after Florida lost to Ole Miss, Matthews dared to suggest that Meyer's offense didn't attack defenses enough with its wide receivers and that Tim Tebow might not be the most mechanically sound quarterback in the business.
The way Meyer reacted, six months later, you might've thought Matthews had started a Web site called FireUrbanMeyer.com.
"If you're a person who's going to criticize," Meyer said, "we don't need you around."
That's funny. Florida sure needed Matthews back in 1990 when the first four quarterbacks on Spurrier's first depth chart couldn't make a throw or take a barb.
Meyer may not need Matthews around, but the coach is missing the point. Matthews is going to be around. He was a Gator before Meyer knew who Mr. Two Bits was, and he'll be a Gator long after Meyer has become the next head coach at Notre Dame or Penn State.
Besides, since when are former players supposed to open their wallets to their old schools but shut their mouths?
Contrast Meyer's reaction to Matthews to Chizik's response to former Auburn place-kicker Al Del Greco.
Like Matthews, Del Greco has a radio show, "The Opening Drive" on WJOX in Birmingham. Like Matthews, Del Greco doesn't think his old school or its employees are perfect.
The day Auburn hired Chizik, someone from this newspaper asked Del Greco for a comment, and he offered one.
"No comment."
No comment about the hire said more. Del Greco couldn't have spoken any louder at that moment had he said, "Oh, no." How did Chizik react to getting kicked in the groin by the old kicker?
Like a man.
The new coach has said nothing publicly on the subject.
Instead Del Greco manned up on his end and went to see Chizik, and they talked in private. If they had differences, they handled them out of the spotlight.
It's just another example, like the quality staff he assembled and the innovative way he dispatched them on the Tiger Prowl, that Chizik so far has outperformed his reputation.
And Del Greco, to his credit, has given Chizik credit for the positive things he's done.
As for Meyer, he may have driven Florida to two of the last three BCS championships, but he could learn a thing or two from 5-19 Gene.
Of course, this isn't the first time Meyer has come up short in comparison with an Auburn coach. Remember, on the field, he was oh-for-Tommy Tuberville.
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Crickets I'm sure from the ESPN crowd. Especially after the week long orgy that was College Gator Game Day last week.
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Scarbinsky suprised me with a great article! I think Urban should ask Sani what he needs in da mouth!
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Scarbinsky suprised me with a great article! I think Urban should ask Sani what he needs in da mouth!
He'll get it three times.