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The Library => The SGA => Topic started by: CCTAU on January 20, 2009, 11:29:37 PM
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Is it rude of me to refer to the ONE as a Kenyan-American? Anyone else that has a foreign parent is referred to in that manner. Is he not Kenyan..and American. I know he is a US citizen, but his dad was not even an immigrant. If one of your parents was Italian, would you be offended to be an Italian-American? Real Italian, not a descendant. Same with Chinese, African, etc..
So as I refer to the one as our new Kenyan-American president, am I wrong? And if you think so, then why do we still use the terms above?
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See my reply at post #9 dealing with hyphenation and Tarheel's responses.
http://tigersx.net/forum/index.php?topic=4482.0 (http://tigersx.net/forum/index.php?topic=4482.0)
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Is it rude of me to refer to the ONE as a Kenyan-American? Anyone else that has a foreign parent is referred to in that manner. Is he not Kenyan..and American. I know he is a US citizen, but his dad was not even an immigrant. If one of your parents was Italian, would you be offended to be an Italian-American? Real Italian, not a descendant. Same with Chinese, African, etc..
So as I refer to the one as our new Kenyan-American president, am I wrong? And if you think so, then why do we still use the terms above?
I don't think that you are exactly wrong and there are some questions (moot at this point) as to the validity of The ONE's U. S. citizenship. And, I too have used hyphenated American terms.
But, on another thread in answer to a question prompted by another X'er I was reminded of what Theodore Roosevelt said about hyphenated Americans and I defer to that post for your reference:
Let me correct you on one thing...you are thinking, not feeling. And I do not think that you are being racist at all in your opinion.
President Theodore Roosevelt said the following about "Hyphenated Americans" in 1915 and it's just as timely today:
There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all.
This is just as true of the man who puts “native” before the hyphen as of the man who puts German or Irish or English or French before the hyphen. Americanism is a matter of the spirit and of the soul. Our allegiance must be purely to the United States. We must unsparingly condemn any man who holds any other allegiance.
But if he is heartily and singly loyal to this Republic, then no matter where he was born, he is just as good an American as any one else.
The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English- Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian- Americans, or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality than with the other citizens of the American Republic.
The men who do not become Americans and nothing else are hyphenated Americans; and there ought to be no room for them in this country. The man who calls himself an American citizen and who yet shows by his actions that he is primarily the citizen of a foreign land, plays a thoroughly mischievous part in the life of our body politic. He has no place here; and the sooner he returns to the land to which he feels his real heart-allegiance, the better it will be for every good American.
Addressing the Knights of Columbus in New York City
12 October 1915
The link:
http://www.theodore-roosevelt.com/trquotes.html (http://www.theodore-roosevelt.com/trquotes.html)
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See my reply at post #9 dealing with hyphenation and Tarheel's responses.
http://tigersx.net/forum/index.php?topic=4482.0 (http://tigersx.net/forum/index.php?topic=4482.0)
Wow! Ggraf you are quick on the draw buddy!
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Well. When your daddy is Kenyan and cares nothing about being American, then you ARE definitely half-Kenyan.
These KENYANS seem to think so too:
From The Times
January 21, 2009
Kenyans hail election of saviour Barack Obama
Rob Crilly in Nairobi
The combined talents of Aretha Franklin, Joe Biden and Yo-Yo Ma failed to silence the drinkers at the Urafiki Green Pub in the heart of Kibera, Africa’s biggest slum.
Thousands gathered in the narrow dirt alleys and dusty clearings of the slum to enjoy the moment, chanting “Yes we can”. Hush fell only when the tiny television set in the corner of the ramshackle bar room filled with the distinctive features of America’s 44th President.
“This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?” If Barack Obama’s spin doctors have been trying to lower expectations since his election victory, the message clearly has not reached the land of his father.
Millions of people around the country thronged giant TV screens or crammed into bars to watch the inauguration of a man viewed as Kenya’s best hope of a prosperous and happy future.
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In some ways his first success was simply to unit a country fractured along tribal lines. Last year the country imploded in a wave of political violence. Last night the inauguration of the grandson of a Kenyan goatherd as US President did more to bring the country together than the efforts of its own corrupt politicians.
Kepha Ngito, who runs youth projects in Kibera, said: “This is something all Kenyans can enjoy. It doesn’t matter what tribe you belong to. This is for all of us.”
Many slum residfents missed the concluding moments of the inauguration when a makeshift cinema — a sheet pinned to a wall with a projector and a borrowed aerial — failed, but no-one much cared.
“Now he is president we will get food and jobs,” said Ben Ochieng, as he danced to the traditional music that replaced the planned show.
All week Kenya had been gearing up for Mr Obama’s moment of glory. Newspapers have published souvenir editions, countless goats have been slaughtered for the party and a popular local brew, Senator beer, has been renamed President for the occasion.
The Kenya National Theatre even revived its hit show Obama The Musical, which wowed sell-out audiences during the US election last year. It uses parallels with the Bible Story and Mr Obama’s own struggles with racism and drugs — documented in his memoir Dreams From My Father - to portray the incoming President as a saviour for downtrodden peoples of the world.
George Orido, the show’s artistic director, said Mr Obama’s story was an inspiration to ordinary Kenyans. “The main message for my show is that anything is possible if you believe and work hard at it,” he said. “That’s important because I come from a part of the world which has been written off by the rest of the planet.”
Kenya is a country in need of a saviour. Last year 600,000 people were left homeless by the violence that followed disputed presidential elections.
This year some 10 million are at risk of hunger, prompting the government to declare a national emergency last week.
While Mr Obama may have been elected by American voters, here he is viewed as a Kenyan president. And Kenyan politicians are supposed to look after their own.
“It is right that when people get power they look after their family, so we know that Obama will build lots of good things for us, like schools and roads and clinics,” said George Opiyo as he left the theatre.
In Kogelo, the tiny village that the Obama family calls home, thousands thronged the grounds of the local school as Kenyans took a day off work to party. Luo dancers from Mr Obama’s tribe draped in monkey skins put on a traditional show, while onlooker waved American flags.
Here the benefits of the Obama presidency are already being felt. The government moved quickly after his November victory to bring modern amenities to the tiny homestead that had been left behind by the 21st century.
“This is an incredible opportunity for us, because a lot of investment will come,” said 20-year-old Faith Achieng. “It’s already thanks to him we have electricity and water.” Not bad for a man trying to play down his tag as the “chosen one”.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article5556295.ece (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article5556295.ece)
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What the fuck kind of article did I just read?
People are in for a rude awakening.....
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There were 1.5 billion people at the inaguration, and only 14 of those missed work.