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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on December 01, 2008, 08:37:50 PM
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"President Gogue, Jay Jacobs and Coach Tuberville did meet Monday to have their annual end of the season meeting. Further conversations between Jay Jacobs and Coach Tuberville will take place in the following days to discuss Coach Tuberville's plan to make improvements for the program moving forward under his leadership.
"Once those discussions are completed, I will provide you with an update."
It is also being reported that while these meetings are "on going", a team meeting has now been scheduled for 8am tomorrow morning.
That's all I know right now....
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Sounds like it's ultimatum time...
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One ultimatum, if I was CTT, would to tell Jacobs to STFU. If they fire CTT, which I would be very pissed off about, Jacobs would need to be fired also. Lowder's little patsy has not exactly made some of the best hiring decisions himself (Slater) and ran off some good coaches. Will Muschcamp and David Marsh sure don't think highly of him, or that is the rumors we have all hears anyway.
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I agree with you about getting rid of Jacobs. He is an assclown and a shitty AD.
The next 24-48 hours should be interesting.
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A wierd feeling of inevitablilty on some of the boards this morning concerning Tuberville. Reports are now saying that the media has been invited to talk to players after the 8am meeting this morning. By most accounts, this is just a simple post-year meeting, and sholuldn't be read into, but some of the big boy writers aren't looking at it that way.
I think if Tuberville gets past the next day or so, he's staying. Otherwise, I think we're going to hear something very soon.
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A wierd feeling of inevitablilty on some of the boards this morning concerning Tuberville. Reports are now saying that the media has been invited to talk to players after the 8am meeting this morning. By most accounts, this is just a simple post-year meeting, and sholuldn't be read into, but some of the big boy writers aren't looking at it that way.
I think if Tuberville gets past the next day or so, he's staying. Otherwise, I think we're going to hear something very soon.
I would be shocked if he were let go. I want to see him stay because I would be nervous about who we could hire that is better than him. Tubby has always been as good as his coaches. If he can find a really good OC, Auburn will be fine!
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I tend to agree. This year is like 2003, I'd like to give him exactly ONE year to pull a 2004.
Anything less than 10 wins and I'd say can him. I actually like that he's talking about handing the hiring reigns over to his OC. That should not only attract some big dogs, but for obvious reasons would be beneficial to us by getting rid of the fucktards we have in there now.
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I think by keeping him, we are prolonging the inevitable. Every coach in the SEC will negatively recruit against us by saying that he's a lame duck coach, he'll be fired after next year, etc.
It's no secret that I've been on the Fire Tubs bandwagon for quite a while now. I just don't think he has it in him to turn it around.
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I think by keeping him, we are prolonging the inevitable. Every coach in the SEC will negatively recruit against us by saying that he's a lame duck coach, he'll be fired after next year, etc.
It's no secret that I've been on the Fire Tubs bandwagon for quite a while now. I just don't think he has it in him to turn it around.
I keep going round and round about it with myself. A part of me says he has done some memorable things at Auburn, he also graduates players, disciplines them, and isnt an asshole. The other part says he gets paid a BOAT LOAD of money to be a football coach and that means winning games. In my profession if I dont make my numbers I am fired..... that simple. He needs to win games and this year didn't cut it.
My biggest worry is what War Eagle (GO Gators) said of finding the next head coach, especially with Jacobs at the helm. Lane Kiffin was my boy...fuckin UT.
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Lane Kiffin was my boy...fuckin UT his wife.
There
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There
exactlly!
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I tend to agree. This year is like 2003, I'd like to give him exactly ONE year to pull a 2004.
Anything less than 10 wins and I'd say can him. I actually like that he's talking about handing the hiring reigns over to his OC. That should not only attract some big dogs, but for obvious reasons would be beneficial to us by getting rid of the fucktards we have in there now.
To reiterate what Chad has said...
Auburn head coach Tommy Tuberville said he's already narrowed his search for a new offensive coordinator and will allow the new hire to potentially bring in his own staff.
"What I want to do is I want an offensive coordinator to give him the freedom to bring in somebody if he has someone in mind," Tuberville said. "He'll probably want to visit with the ones here on the staff, which I would allow him to do."
Tuberville hired Tony Franklin last December but he was fired Oct. 8, partly due to his inability to mesh his spread passing system with the existing staff.
"You've got to make sure coaches can work with other coaches," Tuberville said. "They know that they have to have the same type of philosophy in terms of implementing things, techniques, fundamentals.
"There's a lot that goes into it. There's more than just hiring a guy and bringing him in and turning him loose. You've got to have a sense of philosophy amongst all the guys working together."
Tuberville said he still expects to have a new coordinator hired by the first week in January.
"First, what I got to do is I've got to identify four or five guys, which I'm pretty close to finishing that up, and then I'll start down the line and interview," Tuberville said. "I don't have any frontrunners or any leaders or anything like that. I want to talk to them. Then I'll have my leader in terms of who I think is the best fit after talking to four, five people.
"It's not going to happen overnight. I've told everybody, this thing's probably not going to happen until the first of the year, which is fine because in terms of recruiting we're basically done anyway."
The new coordinator will be the sixth under Tuberville in his 10-plus seasons on the Plains. But this hire may be the most important with Tuberville coming off a losing season and under increasing fire from fans and alumni.
"We want to make sure we get the right person because this is obviously huge in terms of getting a guy that comes in and is going to be here for a while and understands what we need to do with the type of players that we've got here and that we can recruit," Tuberville said.
Tuberville said he's looking for an experienced coordinator.
"I'm not into to training somebody. We're past that point," he said. "We're going to get the best coach out there that wants to come and be part of this program that can get us an offense that's consistent. We haven't had a very consistent offense in a long time and we've had some offensive coordinators come and go. And they've left for different reasons. This time we're going to get somebody that understands this program, No. 1. You have to understand your situation and what type of offense you can run with the type of players that you can get.
"We're going to be able to run it, be able to throw it and be able to, week in week out, sell young people to come in here that they can be big-play guys, which we haven't had many of and we've got to be able to do that."
Tuberville said he spoke with AU's current assistants about potential staff changes following the 36-0 loss to Alabama Saturday night.
"I talked with all of our coaches last night," he said. "They understand the situation. They understand this program and what we got to do. I think all of them have done a good job but we've got to make sure we get the program going in the right direction in terms of offense.
"Of course, right now we're all out recruiting and that's the No. 1 thing. But as we go through this process, I'll sit down with each one of them and talk about their futures, what they've done and how they've done it.
"But I don't want to put the cart in front of the horse in terms of offensive coordinators. What that does is it throws you into a sense of, in recruiting, it throws you in a jam. You want to keep guys out there recruiting because they're still employed here. We've got great coaches here, they've worked hard, they know how to coach. The main thing with them is really going to be is the situation with our coordinator."
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CTT has interfered with just about every coordinator under his watch. The only way I'd ever support him staying is if he did actually clean house on the entire offensive side of the ball and allow a new OC to come in with their own people and run the show. It's not going to happen, though. I don't think he can stay out of it. I know he's the head coach but it's painfully obvious he knows jack squat about offense and putting teams away.
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CTT has interfered with just about every coordinator under his watch. The only way I'd ever support him staying is if he did actually clean house on the entire offensive side of the ball and allow a new OC to come in with their own people and run the show. It's not going to happen, though. I don't think he can stay out of it. I know he's the head coach but it's painfully obvious he knows jack squat about offense and putting teams away.
We pretty much agree. I think he's had a change of heart after this experiment. The 10 years it takes for his assistants to be vested or whatever ends after this season. I truly think he's gonna give the next OC complete control over his entire offensive staff, and Tubs will let him shitcan whoever he wants.
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***RUMOR*** (the latest)
Supposedly there is a replacement, and an offer to Tuberville to take $4M to resign.
***RUMOR***
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***RUMOR*** (the latest)
Supposedly there is a replacement, and an offer to Tuberville to take $4M to resign.
***RUMOR***
Any ideas on who the rumored replacement is?
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Not yet. I've heard a lot of Cincy's coach name mentioned.... I don't think anyone really knows. Muschamp of course.....
I think things have been a little TOO quiet on the Butch Davis front. JMO....
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Yeah, I don't think Davis will leave UNC for anything right now. One of the "insiders" on another site hinted that Muschamp hasn't signed any contract in Austin yet...but I just don't see that either.
I would love to see what Brian Kelly could do here though.
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Anyone who wants Muschamp back right now needs their head examined. The SEC does not suffer fools. Last time I checked folks didn't come to the SEC to cut their head coaching teeth. That is what some other conferences are for.
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All I hear is Davis and Gruden.
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Anyone who wants Muschamp back right now needs their head examined. The SEC does not suffer fools. Last time I checked folks didn't come to the SEC to cut their head coaching teeth. That is what some other conferences are for.
Exactly.
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All I hear is Davis and Gruden.
I'd love to have Davis.
Gruden: not sure I want him, and not sure if he'd want to come to the college ranks. I've not heard any rumblings about him losing his job, but then I'm not following the Bucs very closely.
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I'm sooo liking these rumors.
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Does Jacobs have the power to Fire Tubs? I would think that Gogue would be the ax man. If he is meeting with Jacobs only I doubt he is getting canned.
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I'm sooo liking these rumors.
I've heard it's between Mike Ditka and God.
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I've heard it's between Mike Ditka and God.
Alabama already hired God, so War Ditka, welcome aboard Mike
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Alabama already hired God, so War Ditka, welcome aboard Mike
Ditka would beat God by a field goal in overtime!
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Davis would be great. Unfortunately, I don't think Tubbs is going anywhere. The question is will he have to dump some of his shitty assistants???
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Ditka would beat God by a field goal in overtime!
Round of golf...Ditka vs. God. Who ya got?
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Davis would be great. Unfortunately, I don't think Tubbs is going anywhere. The question is will he have to dump some of his shitty assistants???
And the answer is yes.
"What I want to do is I want an offensive coordinator to give him the freedom to bring in somebody if he has someone in mind," Tuberville said. "He'll probably want to visit with the ones here on the staff, which I would allow him to do."
"What I want to do is I want an offensive coordinator to give him the freedom to bring in somebody if he has someone in mind," Tuberville said. "He'll probably want to visit with the ones here on the staff, which I would allow him to do."
"What I want to do is I want an offensive coordinator to give him the freedom to bring in somebody if he has someone in mind," Tuberville said. "He'll probably want to visit with the ones here on the staff, which I would allow him to do."
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Al Del Greco reported on Jox this morning that it doesn't look good right now for any of the coaches...including Tuberville.
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And the answer is yes.
Quote function fuck you up or where you trying to drive home a point?
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Quote function fuck you up or where you trying to drive home a point?
The latter.
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Al Del Greco reported on Jox this morning that it doesn't look good right now for any of the coaches...including Tuberville.
Wow. I don't think Del Greco would say that unless he knew something. I stand by that I would be shocked if he was let go. I really don't know who we would get...
Maybe we could get someone who is young and aggressive with a chip up his ass so he doesn't take any of Saban's shit. It seems to me, Tubby has just tried to passively ignore the fact that Saban is kicking his ass. I want someone to say, fuck this, i am not taking this saban worshiping bullshit anymore and I am going to do everything I can, whether it takes working 20 hours a day, to recruit the best players, coach the best scemes, and develope the best game plan I can possibly develope. Tubby just kind of goes with the flow and it has gotten a bit old...
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I am listening to Jox on-line and they are reporting an assistant coach being stated as saying, "it's not just us. We feel that we are all going to be out of here, including Tuberville. We feel Auburn wants to go in another direction."
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the witch hunt is in force. burn baby burn.
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the witch hunt is in force. burn baby burn.
"A newt?"
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d58/saniflush/grail07-1.jpg)
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"A newt?"
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d58/saniflush/grail07-1.jpg)
"I got better"
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As I have already posted I am torn whether Tubs should stay or go. 40% Stay 60% Go.
My brain tells me that I think he stays and makes a major shakeup to the offense. However, I am starting to wonder after its taken this long for a vote of confidence. I would think that a meeting would suffice and if we truly intended on keeping him Jacobs would come out and say Tubs isn't going anywhere.
That has happened, why? What would be taking so long to discuss, yeah they could be talking specifics about which coordinator stays, but wouldn't they give Tubs the approval and then continue to work out that stuff. I'm wondering if they aren't trying to negotiate his buyout.
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Wow. I don't think Del Greco would say that unless he knew something. I stand by that I would be shocked if he was let go. I really don't know who we would get...
Maybe we could get someone who is young and aggressive with a chip up his ass so he doesn't take any of Saban's shit. It seems to me, Tubby has just tried to passively ignore the fact that Saban is kicking his ass. I want someone to say, fuck this, i am not taking this saban worshiping bullshit anymore and I am going to do everything I can, whether it takes working 20 hours a day, to recruit the best players, coach the best scemes, and develope the best game plan I can possibly develope. Tubby just kind of goes with the flow and it has gotten a bit old...
I agree with all of this, but I still like the guy. He's the antithesis of Saban, and that's what I like about him. Saban is a win at all costs, high strung, megalomaniacal asshole who refuses to discipline any of the thugs that terrorize the strip until finally they are placed behind bars and removed from society as a whole. A guy who by his own admission "bends any rule he can to the breaking point." Meanwhile Tubs is laid back and cool as a breeze. Yet discipline problems on the plains are one in a million, but when there is a problem, he's quick to be heavy handed. Accessible and friendly to fans, going on trips to Iraq to do what he can for the troops, bringing in Chette, hard fighting solider, and on and on. And he's got a sharp dry-humored wit that cracks my shit up to boot. Bottom line, he's a solid dude.
Right now, at this point in history, do we need a little more fire and intensity? I suppose so, but I would hope the cost wouldn't get us a Fulmer Cup championship like that other school in the state. I would hope there would be some sort of position for Tubs, if he'd be willing to take it. Hell, I'd love to see him as an AD. I hate to tarnish his legacy.
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"I got better"
Look at her nose
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Look at her nose
And this isn't my nose, it's a false one.
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Look at her nose
This isn't real...it's a false one.
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The wench by a red one.
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The wench by a red one.
A Reese one?
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A Reese one?
By a daywalker.
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A Reese one?
I don't think Risa has any.
Wes?
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I don't think Risa has any.
Wes?
Uh...
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what the fuck are we talking about?
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I don't think Risa has any.
Wes?
He is Destin'd to answer your question.