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Title: Conspiracies & The Like
Post by: Snakebite on January 31, 2025, 06:33:43 PM
From the moon landing to flat earth, from Bigfoot to Loch Ness, from ancient aliens building pyramids & Area 51 to 9/11, & many more…

On the heels of the executive order to declassify details concerning the Kennedy & MLK assassinations, I am very interested to know the truth of what happened. If suspicions hold true of government involvement, it got me thinking of what other historical anomalies we’ve gotten wrong (purposely or accidentally).

There exists evidence that a cataclysmic event occurred 12,000 years ago that wiped out a civilization that we still don’t fully understand in Turkey. Based on evidence, they were far more advanced than previously thought possible by scholars for that time. Archeological discovery has been halted in the region after only uncovering 10% of the city. Funding is certainly not the issue. So I find myself asking, what are they hiding?


Regarding conspiracies, any of ‘em that grab your attention? Do you have any of your own that aren’t mainstream?
Title: Re: Conspiracies & The Like
Post by: AUJarhead on February 03, 2025, 07:45:29 AM
I'd love to know all the facts of the JFK assassinations.  I've been to the 6th floor of the Texas School Book Depository building, and looked out the window that Oswald fired at Kennedy from.  If he's the lone gunman, I can't understand why he wouldn't take the shot when he's coming down Houston Street, which I think is an easier shot, and instead takes the shot when he's moving away on Elm.

As for Roswell, I don't believe it.  Too many enlisted guys involved.  Love the Lance Corporal Underground, but no way they are keeping that quiet when those guys hit the bars.
Title: Re: Conspiracies & The Like
Post by: Snakebite on February 03, 2025, 10:11:54 AM
I'd love to know all the facts of the JFK assassinations.  I've been to the 6th floor of the Texas School Book Depository building, and looked out the window that Oswald fired at Kennedy from.  If he's the lone gunman, I can't understand why he wouldn't take the shot when he's coming down Houston Street, which I think is an easier shot, and instead takes the shot when he's moving away on Elm.

As for Roswell, I don't believe it.  Too many enlisted guys involved.  Love the Lance Corporal Underground, but no way they are keeping that quiet when those guys hit the bars.

You speak truth.  Same with the Green Berets that swear to have fought and killed a red-headed giant in Kandahar wielding a spear.
Title: Re: Conspiracies & The Like
Post by: The Six on February 03, 2025, 11:11:42 AM
I believe at least part of what we saw in the Moon Landing was shot on a stage by Stanley Kubrick as part propaganda (had to beat those Rooskies!) and part highlighting the real work the space program was doing but didn't have a good way to show the public at that time. I believe we did go there a few times, but that first one, they launched the guys on another mission to test things and shot the rest to get people behind it and force the USSR to hurry and make mistakes.

JFK was shot and killed by Lee Harvey Oswald who acted alone. Were there a lot of people who wanted to do it? Sure, just like there's a lot of folks who want a coach fired but don't have the wherewithal to act on it.

Same for RFK and MLK, Jr., etc. All killed by lone assassins.

My two cents.
Title: Re: Conspiracies & The Like
Post by: Snakebite on February 03, 2025, 12:07:14 PM
I believe at least part of what we saw in the Moon Landing was shot on a stage by Stanley Kubrick as part propaganda (had to beat those Rooskies!) and part highlighting the real work the space program was doing but didn't have a good way to show the public at that time. I believe we did go there a few times, but that first one, they launched the guys on another mission to test things and shot the rest to get people behind it and force the USSR to hurry and make mistakes.

JFK was shot and killed by Lee Harvey Oswald who acted alone. Were there a lot of people who wanted to do it? Sure, just like there's a lot of folks who want a coach fired but don't have the wherewithal to act on it.

Same for RFK and MLK, Jr., etc. All killed by lone assassins.

My two cents.

Agree with your moon take.  They likely just wanted to give such a historical moment justice and lacked the technology to capture it effectively in space. 

Disagree with the assassination take, cautiously.  The circumstances in each case seem too taboo to be true.
Title: Re: Conspiracies & The Like
Post by: The Six on February 03, 2025, 03:36:02 PM
Agree with your moon take.  They likely just wanted to give such a historical moment justice and lacked the technology to capture it effectively in space. 

Disagree with the assassination take, cautiously.  The circumstances in each case seem too taboo to be true.

That's fair.
Title: Re: Conspiracies & The Like
Post by: Kaos on February 03, 2025, 08:56:14 PM
Oswald was a patsy.  So was Ray. 
Title: Re: Conspiracies & The Like
Post by: The Six on February 04, 2025, 07:55:54 AM
Oswald was a patsy.  So was Ray.

Fake. News.
Title: Re: Conspiracies & The Like
Post by: AUJarhead on February 04, 2025, 08:40:09 AM
I can't get behind you guys on the moon landing.  What makes you guys think any part of it was staged?
Title: Re: Conspiracies & The Like
Post by: The Six on February 04, 2025, 09:11:49 AM
I can't get behind you guys on the moon landing.  What makes you guys think any part of it was staged?

For me, it's what I indicated in the first reply. I don't know we had the tech to actually get there when we did or broadcast it. However, we were close. Therefore, it makes sense to stage it for the PR shot in the arm, the motivated support/funding, and to force the USSR to get in a hurry that they couldn't afford nor were ready to do.

We went to the moon eventually. I just don't think that what we saw from there.
Title: Re: Conspiracies & The Like
Post by: War Damn Six on February 04, 2025, 09:20:54 AM
Birds aren’t real.
Title: Re: Conspiracies & The Like
Post by: Snakebite on February 04, 2025, 10:15:58 AM
Birds aren’t real.

Now we’re talking.
Title: Re: Conspiracies & The Like
Post by: Kaos on February 05, 2025, 02:37:03 AM
Birds aren’t real.

I just shot you one.  Felt pretty real to me.
Title: Re: Conspiracies & The Like
Post by: jmar on February 05, 2025, 07:45:18 AM
Apollo11 camera to me is the best proof that at least that part was staged. Non professional photographers could not possibly handle the intricate adjustments on the device to produce the stellar photos while wearing those bulky gloves.

I have 9 -11 beliefs that I don't discuss with anyone including the evidence of thermite, the melting point of steel along with the sustained temps of jet fuel.

Building seven is a separate mystery unto itself.



Title: Re: Conspiracies & The Like
Post by: The Six on February 05, 2025, 08:12:50 AM
I have 9 -11 beliefs that I don't discuss with anyone including the evidence of thermite, the melting point of steel along with the sustained temps of jet fuel.

Fellow follower of 'Loose Change' franchise?
Title: Re: Conspiracies & The Like
Post by: Snakebite on February 05, 2025, 09:48:46 AM
Apollo11 camera to me is the best proof that at least that part was staged. Non professional photographers could not possibly handle the intricate adjustments on the device to produce the stellar photos while wearing those bulky gloves.

I have 9 -11 beliefs that I don't discuss with anyone including the evidence of thermite, the melting point of steel along with the sustained temps of jet fuel.

Building seven is a separate mystery unto itself.

On the 9/11 piece, a documentary titled "Zeitgeist" that came out in 2007 raised my suspicions speaking along the same lines regarding thermite, melting point of steel, and conflicting intelligence reports.  Why do you not discuss with anyone, if you don't mind me asking?
Title: Re: Conspiracies & The Like
Post by: Kaos on February 05, 2025, 01:29:34 PM
On the 9/11 piece, a documentary titled "Zeitgeist" that came out in 2007 raised my suspicions speaking along the same lines regarding thermite, melting point of steel, and conflicting intelligence reports.  Why do you not discuss with anyone, if you don't mind me asking?


It’s the first rule of Fight Club
Title: Re: Conspiracies & The Like
Post by: Snakebite on February 05, 2025, 01:33:54 PM

It’s the first rule of Fight Club

Chuck Palahniuk is the reason why?
Title: Re: Conspiracies & The Like
Post by: Snaggletiger on February 05, 2025, 02:31:02 PM
Zeitgeist lost me at Christianity and Jesus ain't real.
Title: Re: Conspiracies & The Like
Post by: Snakebite on February 05, 2025, 02:56:26 PM
Zeitgeist lost me at Christianity and Jesus ain't real.

I don’t remember the particulars on their Christianity episodes. All I do remember is that they claimed there are a lot of parallels with other religions/historical figures that predate Christianity.

Christianity can’t be disproven, so they are dumbasses if they claimed to disprove it in that film.
Title: Re: Conspiracies & The Like
Post by: Snaggletiger on February 05, 2025, 03:09:01 PM
I'm not much a conspiracy theorist.  I know they're out there in some instances, but in most cases they turn out to be just that, theories. 

There is no Illuminati, and the Deep State is just a bunch of corrupt politicians looking out for themselves, trying to become multi-skwazillionaires with a $200K/yr. salary.

BTW, I think there is an app that tracks what investments our Gubment officials are making.  If you want to get filthy rich, just watch The Nancy and the stocks she buys.

I don't buy any 9-11 conspiracy stuff. 
Title: Re: Conspiracies & The Like
Post by: Snakebite on February 05, 2025, 03:25:34 PM
For reference, a few conspiracy theories that turned out to be true:

1. Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment
2. MKUltra: the CIA Mind-Control Project
3. The 1990 Testimony of Nayirah
4. Operation Snow White: The Church of Scientology Versus The U.S. Government
5. CIA Assassinations
6. The Business Plot: Fascism in America
7. Operation Mockingbird: The CIA Propaganda Machine
8. COINTELPRO: The FBI vs. 1960s Activists
9. Operation Paperclip: Nazi Scientists Find Employment in America
10. Operation Northwoods: How to Wage War on Cuba
11. Bohemian Grove: The Rich, the Powerful, and the Giant Stone Owl
Title: Re: Conspiracies & The Like
Post by: Snaggletiger on February 05, 2025, 04:56:14 PM
For reference, a few conspiracy theories that turned out to be true:

1. Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment
2. MKUltra: the CIA Mind-Control Project
3. The 1990 Testimony of Nayirah
4. Operation Snow White: The Church of Scientology Versus The U.S. Government
5. CIA Assassinations
6. The Business Plot: Fascism in America
7. Operation Mockingbird: The CIA Propaganda Machine
8. COINTELPRO: The FBI vs. 1960s Activists
9. Operation Paperclip: Nazi Scientists Find Employment in America
10. Operation Northwoods: How to Wage War on Cuba
11. Bohemian Grove: The Rich, the Powerful, and the Giant Stone Owl

Oh man, I forgot about most of those.  In fact, all of those, because I've never heard of any of them.  Giant Stone Owl?  Now, you're just making stuff up.
Title: Re: Conspiracies & The Like
Post by: jmar on February 05, 2025, 05:02:58 PM
On the 9/11 piece, a documentary titled "Zeitgeist" that came out in 2007 raised my suspicions speaking along the same lines regarding thermite, melting point of steel, and conflicting intelligence reports.  Why do you not discuss with anyone, if you don't mind me asking?
I can only imagine how surviving family members and first responders might react to someone casting doubt on our leadership and the official storyline. I brought it up once while chatting  with my sister's and they both responded in unison, "really," as if they had never given it a second thought. Not a popular take.
Title: Re: Conspiracies & The Like
Post by: Snaggletiger on February 05, 2025, 05:42:28 PM
All this reminds me of years ago, when a buddy of mine was all worked up about a "documentary" he had seen the night before, about these three college students who got lost in the woods in Maryland.  They kept trying to find their way out, but kept winding up in the same place.  There was something in the woods after them. They all disappeared, but had filmed the whole ordeal.  The footage was found, and he watched it last night, and it was the scariest thing he'd ever seen.  No one has ever found them either.

Randy, what was this "documentary" called?

I believe it was called The Blair Witch Project. You've GOTTA see it.

Uh huh.  And what channel was it on?

The Sci-Fi Chan......Oh.....never mind!
Title: Re: Conspiracies & The Like
Post by: Snaggletiger on February 05, 2025, 05:45:57 PM
BTW, I've got a real conspiracy for you.


The NFL and Kansas City Chiefs.
Title: Re: Conspiracies & The Like
Post by: jmar on February 06, 2025, 05:08:40 AM
We have had legitimate conspiracies in this country but you come off as a nut job when you start bundling them with the likes of the Illuminati, the New World Order and the Book of Enoch etc.
Somewhere in this country there are young folk sitting around smoking on the weed wondering how a once in a lifetime talent like Taylor Swift fits into the grand scheme of things.









Title: Re: Conspiracies & The Like
Post by: War Damn Six on February 06, 2025, 06:16:59 AM
…a once in a lifetime talent like Taylor Swift fits into the grand scheme of things.

Wiregrass Tiger has more talent than T Swift.  She is the product of great marketing more than anything. 

Talented?  Yes.  Entertaining?  Yes.  Marketed to the hilt?  Yes.

Once in a lifetime talent?  You have lost whatever mind you once had. 
Title: Re: Conspiracies & The Like
Post by: wesfau2 on February 06, 2025, 07:10:31 AM
Wiregrass Tiger has more talent than T Swift.  She is the product of great marketing more than anything. 

Talented?  Yes.  Entertaining?  Yes.  Marketed to the hilt?  Yes.

Once in a lifetime talent?  You have lost whatever mind you once had.

Yup.
Title: Re: Conspiracies & The Like
Post by: Snaggletiger on February 06, 2025, 10:13:41 AM
Wiregrass Tiger has more talent than T Swift.  She is the product of great marketing more than anything. 

Talented?  Yes.  Entertaining?  Yes.  Marketed to the hilt?  Yes.

Once in a lifetime talent?  You have lost whatever mind you once had.

I'm really starting to worry about you.
Title: Re: Conspiracies & The Like
Post by: Kaos on February 06, 2025, 10:33:23 AM
For reference, a few conspiracy theories that turned out to be true:

1. Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment
2. MKUltra: the CIA Mind-Control Project
3. The 1990 Testimony of Nayirah
4. Operation Snow White: The Church of Scientology Versus The U.S. Government
5. CIA Assassinations
6. The Business Plot: Fascism in America
7. Operation Mockingbird: The CIA Propaganda Machine
8. COINTELPRO: The FBI vs. 1960s Activists
9. Operation Paperclip: Nazi Scientists Find Employment in America
10. Operation Northwoods: How to Wage War on Cuba
11. Bohemian Grove: The Rich, the Powerful, and the Giant Stone Owl

You're going to be able to add Pizzagate, Epstein Island (Gates, Clinton, etc.),Epstein suicide, J6 Fraud ("insurrection" run by democrats), Ukranian money-laundering to Biden, Kerry, Romney, and more, Covid designed to stop Trump, and a hundred more as time goes on. The Clinton murders will likely never get pinned, nor will Obama killing his chef - but those are true too.

Title: Re: Conspiracies & The Like
Post by: Kaos on February 06, 2025, 10:53:29 AM
Wiregrass Tiger has more talent than T Swift.  She is the product of great marketing more than anything. 

Talented?  Yes.  Entertaining?  Yes.  Marketed to the hilt?  Yes.

Once in a lifetime talent?  You have lost whatever mind you once had.

Talented?  No.  Not in the least.  Monotone whining, zero vocal range.  Absolute garbage.
Entertaining?  To whom? 

A farting baboon with a kazoo stuck in its bunghole has more "talent" than Taylor Swift.
Title: Re: Conspiracies & The Like
Post by: Snakebite on February 06, 2025, 10:56:40 AM
RIP in peace, WT.  Catching aids in the butt is no easy way to go.
Title: Re: Conspiracies & The Like
Post by: Kaos on February 06, 2025, 11:08:59 AM
RIP in peace, WT.  Catching aids in the butt is no easy way to go.

Nice pun.  He got it from catching.
Title: Re: Conspiracies & The Like
Post by: The Six on February 06, 2025, 01:53:34 PM
You're going to be able to add Pizzagate, Epstein Island (Gates, Clinton, etc.),Epstein suicide, J6 Fraud ("insurrection" run by democrats), Ukranian money-laundering to Biden, Kerry, Romney, and more, Covid designed to stop Trump, and a hundred more as time goes on. The Clinton murders will likely never get pinned, nor will Obama killing his chef - but those are true too.

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Title: Re: Conspiracies & The Like
Post by: jmar on February 06, 2025, 03:30:19 PM
I refuse to explain sarcasm.
Google it.
Title: Re: Conspiracies & The Like
Post by: Snakebite on February 06, 2025, 03:48:47 PM
I refuse to explain sarcasm.
Google it.

WYTAW?
Title: Re: Conspiracies & The Like
Post by: War Damn Six on February 06, 2025, 04:32:58 PM
I refuse to explain sarcasm.
Google it.

Totally missed it. 
Title: Re: Conspiracies & The Like
Post by: Kaos on February 06, 2025, 07:21:54 PM
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Ok, ostrich.  Keep that head buried. 

I didn't even get to adrenocrhome. 
Title: Re: Conspiracies & The Like
Post by: The Six on February 07, 2025, 11:35:27 AM
Ok, ostrich.  Keep that head buried. 

I didn't even get to adrenocrhome.

 :taunt:
Title: Re: Conspiracies & The Like
Post by: Kaos on February 07, 2025, 02:47:29 PM
:taunt:

In due time, all will be revealed. Your choice to believe what's right in front of your eyes or not.
Title: Re: Conspiracies & The Like
Post by: jmar on February 07, 2025, 06:44:54 PM
In due time, all will be revealed. Your choice to believe what's right in front of your eyes or not.
I'm only seeing desperate irrelevent losers threatening protests and lawsuits.
VDH tells us that Trump is the tip of the spear, like Patton's Third Army and should not pause to allow them to gain footing.

It's really something to behold.








 
Title: Re: Conspiracies & The Like
Post by: jmar on February 08, 2025, 08:11:29 AM
I sincerely hope the DOGE team is busy carving up Education while the Super Bowl is playing out.