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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Snaggletiger on November 13, 2024, 05:06:45 PM

Title: Roll Of The Dice
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 13, 2024, 05:06:45 PM
Since there ain't a gawt damn thing going on with the X, I submit for your (dis)pleasure.

I am of the firm belief that barring some kind of scandal, or something similar happening, Hugh Freeze will get a third year to get this program turned around.  As we all have recognized, the one thing he’s excelled at is bringing top shelf talent to the Planez.  Other than that, it’s been an underwhelming performance, to say the least, especially on the offensive side of things.

I know I differ from quite a few, in that I was pumped about the hire when they named U Free to run the program.  I know y’all probably remember my rants about Auburn never going after the “home run hire” in any sport, and I knew they wouldn’t this time either, so I asked for this one thing.  Don’t take a huge chance!!!  At least hire someone who had been there, done that, and had proven they could win.  I wanted somebody with head coaching experience at the D1 level, who understood what it takes to compete in this league.

Hugh Freeze checked all the boxes.  Has he been wildly successful everywhere he’s been?  No, not by any stretch.  But how do you define ultra-successful at programs like Arkansas State, Ole Miss and Liberty?  I guess we now have to give ole Lane some credit, but this is a different day and age in college football.  You can get better in a big damn hurry through the portal and NIL, something Freeze never really had at his disposal. My thinking was, and still is this.  Auburn is a sleeping giant.  We’ve already proven twice in recent history that we have what it takes to reach the pinnacle of college football.  We just need a proven winner who understands the SEC, to take the keys to the Lamboghini and drive us there.

If Freeze isn’t the man, he’ll be gone after next season.  The point to all this is, the only thing you can do as a program, is do your due diligence, try to be smart and roll the dice with who you feel is the man for the job.  Sometimes it works, and obviously, more times than not, it doesn’t.  Coaching turnover is a part of life.  Even though I still believe he will get it turned around sooner than later, this is NOT an endorsement of Freeze, or his coaching abilities.  Like I said, if he doesn’t, he gone.  I’m just saying, you do your best to pick the right guy, and hope for the best.  Here’s who some current SEC teams are taking a chance on:

Hugh Freeze: 

Lambuth University  20-5
Arkansas State:  10-2
Ole Miss:  41-25
Liberty:  24-11

Sam Pitts – Arkansas:

Career assistant coach.  Moved to Arkansas from the O-line Coach at FUGA

Josh Heupel - UT:

 Came to Tennessee after 3 years at UCF

Eliah Drinkwitz- Missouri:

Named Missouri HC after one year at Appy State

Billy Napier – Gusty Gaytah:

4 years HC at University of Louisiana

Shane Beamer – South Carolina:

Career Assistant Coach

Clark Lea - Vanderbilt:

Formerly the Defensive Coordinator at Notre Dame

Jeff Lebby – Mississippi State:

Offensive Coordinator at Oklahoma

Brent Venables – Oklahoma:

Career Assistant.  Came to OU from Clemson as Associate HC.

Obviously, there are varying degrees of success, or lack thereof.  And noe of these had resumes that would exactly blow you awayu.  No matter who you choose, all you can do is hope for the best.
Title: Re: Roll Of The Dice
Post by: CCTAU on November 13, 2024, 07:29:16 PM
I will worry about this next season.
For now, I hang on.
Title: Re: Roll Of The Dice
Post by: Snakebite on November 13, 2024, 08:12:36 PM
Since there ain't a gawt damn thing going on with the X, I submit for your (dis)pleasure.

I am of the firm belief that barring some kind of scandal, or something similar happening, Hugh Freeze will get a third year to get this program turned around.  As we all have recognized, the one thing he’s excelled at is bringing top shelf talent to the Planez.  Other than that, it’s been an underwhelming performance, to say the least, especially on the offensive side of things.

I know I differ from quite a few, in that I was pumped about the hire when they named U Free to run the program.  I know y’all probably remember my rants about Auburn never going after the “home run hire” in any sport, and I knew they wouldn’t this time either, so I asked for this one thing.  Don’t take a huge chance!!!  At least hire someone who had been there, done that, and had proven they could win.  I wanted somebody with head coaching experience at the D1 level, who understood what it takes to compete in this league.

Hugh Freeze checked all the boxes.  Has he been wildly successful everywhere he’s been?  No, not by any stretch.  But how do you define ultra-successful at programs like Arkansas State, Ole Miss and Liberty?  I guess we now have to give ole Lane some credit, but this is a different day and age in college football.  You can get better in a big damn hurry through the portal and NIL, something Freeze never really had at his disposal. My thinking was, and still is this.  Auburn is a sleeping giant.  We’ve already proven twice in recent history that we have what it takes to reach the pinnacle of college football.  We just need a proven winner who understands the SEC, to take the keys to the Lamboghini and drive us there.

If Freeze isn’t the man, he’ll be gone after next season.  The point to all this is, the only thing you can do as a program, is do your due diligence, try to be smart and roll the dice with who you feel is the man for the job.  Sometimes it works, and obviously, more times than not, it doesn’t.  Coaching turnover is a part of life.  Even though I still believe he will get it turned around sooner than later, this is NOT an endorsement of Freeze, or his coaching abilities.  Like I said, if he doesn’t, he gone.  I’m just saying, you do your best to pick the right guy, and hope for the best.  Here’s who some current SEC teams are taking a chance on:

Hugh Freeze: 

Lambuth University  20-5
Arkansas State:  10-2
Ole Miss:  41-25
Liberty:  24-11

Sam Pitts – Arkansas:

Career assistant coach.  Moved to Arkansas from the O-line Coach at FUGA

Josh Heupel - UT:

 Came to Tennessee after 3 years at UCF

Eliah Drinkwitz- Missouri:

Named Missouri HC after one year at Appy State

Billy Napier – Gusty Gaytah:

4 years HC at University of Louisiana

Shane Beamer – South Carolina:

Career Assistant Coach

Clark Lea - Vanderbilt:

Formerly the Defensive Coordinator at Notre Dame

Jeff Lebby – Mississippi State:

Offensive Coordinator at Oklahoma

Brent Venables – Oklahoma:

Career Assistant.  Came to OU from Clemson as Associate HC.

Obviously, there are varying degrees of success, or lack thereof.  And noe of these had resumes that would exactly blow you awayu.  No matter who you choose, all you can do is hope for the best.

I could tell the drink started kicking in on the last paragraph.


I think there is good wisdom and perspective with your post.

I really want him to succeed. Right now, I feel like I am watching pride come before the fall. If a QB is single-handedly losing you games, change the player OR change the scheme to fit his strengths (which ain’t damn much to choose from, from what I’ve seen). That is the key for any offense to work…. Finding something that frickin’ works… Starting with who the hell is taking snaps.
Title: Re: Roll Of The Dice
Post by: Kaos on November 13, 2024, 08:39:46 PM
Since there ain't a gawt damn thing going on with the X, I submit for your (dis)pleasure.

I am of the firm belief that barring some kind of scandal, or something similar happening, Hugh Freeze will get a third year to get this program turned around.  As we all have recognized, the one thing he’s excelled at is bringing top shelf talent to the Planez.  Other than that, it’s been an underwhelming performance, to say the least, especially on the offensive side of things.

I know I differ from quite a few, in that I was pumped about the hire when they named U Free to run the program.  I know y’all probably remember my rants about Auburn never going after the “home run hire” in any sport, and I knew they wouldn’t this time either, so I asked for this one thing.  Don’t take a huge chance!!!  At least hire someone who had been there, done that, and had proven they could win.  I wanted somebody with head coaching experience at the D1 level, who understood what it takes to compete in this league.

Hugh Freeze checked all the boxes.  Has he been wildly successful everywhere he’s been?  No, not by any stretch.  But how do you define ultra-successful at programs like Arkansas State, Ole Miss and Liberty?  I guess we now have to give ole Lane some credit, but this is a different day and age in college football.  You can get better in a big damn hurry through the portal and NIL, something Freeze never really had at his disposal. My thinking was, and still is this.  Auburn is a sleeping giant.  We’ve already proven twice in recent history that we have what it takes to reach the pinnacle of college football.  We just need a proven winner who understands the SEC, to take the keys to the Lamboghini and drive us there.

If Freeze isn’t the man, he’ll be gone after next season.  The point to all this is, the only thing you can do as a program, is do your due diligence, try to be smart and roll the dice with who you feel is the man for the job.  Sometimes it works, and obviously, more times than not, it doesn’t.  Coaching turnover is a part of life.  Even though I still believe he will get it turned around sooner than later, this is NOT an endorsement of Freeze, or his coaching abilities.  Like I said, if he doesn’t, he gone.  I’m just saying, you do your best to pick the right guy, and hope for the best.  Here’s who some current SEC teams are taking a chance on:

Hugh Freeze: 

Lambuth University  20-5
Arkansas State:  10-2
Ole Miss:  41-25
Liberty:  24-11

Sam Pitts – Arkansas:

Career assistant coach.  Moved to Arkansas from the O-line Coach at FUGA

Josh Heupel - UT:

 Came to Tennessee after 3 years at UCF

Eliah Drinkwitz- Missouri:

Named Missouri HC after one year at Appy State

Billy Napier – Gusty Gaytah:

4 years HC at University of Louisiana

Shane Beamer – South Carolina:

Career Assistant Coach

Clark Lea - Vanderbilt:

Formerly the Defensive Coordinator at Notre Dame

Jeff Lebby – Mississippi State:

Offensive Coordinator at Oklahoma

Brent Venables – Oklahoma:

Career Assistant.  Came to OU from Clemson as Associate HC.

Obviously, there are varying degrees of success, or lack thereof.  And noe of these had resumes that would exactly blow you awayu.  No matter who you choose, all you can do is hope for the best.

The bolden part is where you lost me. 

He didn’t.  It’s at his disposal now.  And he didn’t. He got worse. 
Title: Re: Roll Of The Dice
Post by: CCTAU on November 13, 2024, 09:09:32 PM
The bolden part is where you lost me. 

He didn’t.  It’s at his disposal now.  And he didn’t. He got worse.

Too many holes to fill at one time.
Title: Re: Roll Of The Dice
Post by: Kaos on November 13, 2024, 10:39:47 PM
Too many holes to fill at one time.

He got one receiver. 

What other holes did he fill?
Title: Re: Roll Of The Dice
Post by: jmar on November 14, 2024, 08:44:38 AM
He gets another year because of Cohen.
He fucked up thinking Thorne could do what he did at Michigan State.
We have weapons because he assembled an all-star group of recruiters.
I'm sick of the man because he was supposed to be a Head Coach. Instead, all we have gotten is an offensive coordinator... and a very bad one.


We could be facing the prospects of needing two QBs from the portal bc of his stubbornness and or loyalty to a fault.
What's that $3M?
I don't know at this point that he's any better than Heuple or Napier.
He's been awful.
Title: Re: Roll Of The Dice
Post by: Kaos on November 14, 2024, 09:32:06 AM
He gets another year because of Cohen.
He fucked up thinking Thorne could do what he did at Michigan State.
We have weapons because he assembled an all-star group of recruiters.
I'm sick of the man because he was supposed to be a Head Coach. Instead, all we have gotten is an offensive coordinator... and a very bad one.


We could be facing the prospects of needing two QBs from the portal bc of his stubbornness and or loyalty to a fault.
What's that $3M?
I don't know at this point that he's any better than Heuple or Napier.
He's been awful.

He can't see Hoople or Stapler from where he is.  Both are far superior.
Title: Re: Roll Of The Dice
Post by: jmar on November 14, 2024, 09:46:18 AM
He can't see Hoople or Stapler from where he is.  Both are far superior.
Can't disagree bc development of talent is also something in doubt offensively. We aren't improving.
Title: Re: Roll Of The Dice
Post by: The Six on November 14, 2024, 11:18:20 AM
Her love has no strings, shackles or chains
But I'm holding on for dear life
She's like rolling a seven, every time I roll the dice
Title: Re: Roll Of The Dice
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 14, 2024, 11:56:10 AM
He got one receiver. 

What other holes did he fill?

QB was the glaring need.  Not only did he fail, he didn't show up for class.

Otherwise, a pretty nice haul that especially helped the D. 
Title: Re: Roll Of The Dice
Post by: Buzz Killington on November 19, 2024, 10:08:30 AM
Stapler
Fuck that guy and his run in the mud
Title: Re: Roll Of The Dice
Post by: Kaos on November 19, 2024, 02:14:10 PM

Otherwise, a pretty nice haul that especially helped the D.

This belies the oft-repeated Freezcuse that we are playing all freshmen on defense.
Title: Re: Roll Of The Dice
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 19, 2024, 02:37:20 PM
This belies the oft-repeated Freezcuse that we are playing all freshmen on defense.

They definitely are playing a shat ton of freshmen and sophomores on D, which bodes well for the future.  But the transfer portal also produced the following on D:

Jerrin Thompson: Starting Safety

Dorian Mausi: Starting Middle Linebacker

Isaiah Rakes:  Starting Nose Tackle

Keyron Crawford: Part Time Starter at DE

Philip Blidi: Part Time Starter at Defensive Tackle

Not too shabby when you can get 5 full, or part time starters on one side of the ball thru teh pertals.