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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Snaggletiger on September 23, 2024, 10:56:36 AM
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So far, through 4 games:
Passing
Payton Thorne: 40/70 700 yards 57% 7 TD and 5 INT
Hank Brown: 27/43 403 yards 63% 6 TD and 3 INT
Rushing
Jarquez Hunter: 48 carries for 340 yard and 2 TD
Receiving
KeAndre Lambert-Smith: 12 catches for 338 yards and 5 TD
Malcolm Simmons: 10 catches for 153 yards and 1 TD
Revolver Fairweather: 10 catches for 107 yards and 1 TD
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So far, through 4 games:
Passing
Payton Thorne: 40/70 700 yards 57% 7 TD and 5 INT
Hank Brown: 27/43 403 yards 63% 6 TD and 3 INT
Rushing
Jarquez Hunter: 48 carries for 340 yard and 2 TD
Receiving
KeAndre Lambert-Smith: 12 catches for 338 yards and 5 TD
Malcolm Simmons: 10 catches for 153 yards and 1 TD
Revolver Fairweather: 10 catches for 107 yards and 1 TD
Yeah. Run it, use quick game and Fairweather. Take a few deep shots. OPEN deep shots!
Try to avoid those 30 yard drive killers where you have to drop it in a fucking window.
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Yeah. Run it, use quick game and Fairweather. Take a few deep shots. OPEN deep shots!
Try to avoid those 30 yard drive killers where you have to drop it in a fucking window.
I thought I'd see more catches for KLS. Maybe it's because he was the man this past Saturday, but it seems like he's about the only real target.
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Defensively
Jerrin Thompson 22 total tackles with 1 interception and 1 sack
Dorian Mausi 20 total tackles
Jalen McLeod 19 total tackles with 2 sacks
Keldrick Faulk 15 total tackles and 3 sacks
Through 4 games, we have 8 total sacks and 4 interceptions.
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We aren't so negative on turnovers if we delete the bonehead drive murdering type.
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Discussion fodder:
https://x.com/_JHokanson/status/1838272132347826446
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Discussion fodder:
https://x.com/_JHokanson/status/1838272132347826446
Its 100% truth. TO's are almost all of this. At this rate it will be the difference between 4-8 and 8-4.
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Its 100% truth. TO's are almost all of this. At this rate it will be the difference between 4-8 and 8-4.
And it's not just that we have them, it's when they happen. Turnovers at the 1 yard line, the 23, and the 27. That's at worst 13 points off the board.
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And it's not just that we have them, it's when they happen. Turnovers at the 1 yard line, the 23, and the 27. That's at worst 13 points off the board.
Turnovers are mental discipline.
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Turnovers are mental discipline.
We have to learn to win as a team. Don't care if our QBs throw the ball away or throw for 50%. We can stay in this game by not giving it away.
I happen to think our offense can score 4 touchdowns on anyone. We have a defense that will get burned by busted coverage a few times per game but they play very hard.
This team can redeem itself against Oklahoma. Auburn doesn't have to be a turnover machine on offense.
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The stat that matters most is the scoreboard.
GH is right. Stop turning the ball over and the scoreboard is much more in our favor.
However, Hugh's teams going back to Liberty and now at Auburn have turned the ball over a lot. (Best ranking nationally was in the 50s and that was only once.) It's not all that different from Mike Leach offenses. They turned it over, too. They also didn't coach and play scared. Stop yanking QBs in an out. That's bad. Ride a dude. If he goes down in flames, oh well. Buy a better one in December/January.
Not making a bowl this year, boys. Accept that. It's all about keeping the recruiting class together and the ones who are already here from portal transferring to a playoff team.
Next year - Bowl/7 wins is the goal.
2026 - 10 wins should be the goal.
2027- Serious playoff contender or gtfo.
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We have to learn to win as a team. Don't care if our QBs throw the ball away or throw for 50%. We can stay in this game by not giving it away.
I happen to think our offense can score 4 touchdowns on anyone. We have a defense that will get burned by busted coverage a few times per game but they play very hard.
This team can redeem itself against Oklahoma. Auburn doesn't have to be a turnover machine on offense.
Where does this faith come from?
AU has rarely scored 4 TDs over the last few seasons
2023: UMass, Samford, Arkansas
2022: Mercer, Mississippi State, W. Kentucky
2021: Akron, Alabama State, Georgia State, Arky, Ole Miss
2020: Kentucky, Ole Miss, LSU, Tennessee
2019: Kent State, Arkansas, A&M, MSU, Samford, UAt.
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I have been mostly critical in the past but I truly believe we have the elements in place if we can eliminate the bad throws. Maybe Freeze is coaching like he believes it as well just expecting too much.
And an Auburn run game should be able to score two rushing tds on ANYBODY.
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Turnovers are mental discipline.
I think thats fair.
IFFFF it corrects or even normalizes? It's a different team. If it doesn't and continues at this rate, we will see what we've been seeing and probably only beat ULM. You will not beat any team with a pulse turning it over 5-6 times a game.
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I think thats fair.
IFFFF it corrects or even normalizes? It's a different team. If it doesn't and continues at this rate, we will see what we've been seeing and probably only beat ULM. You will not beat any team with a pulse turning it over 5-6 times a game.
It's like we're shooting for Idaho's 2012 record.
Statistically improbable...we will not keep doing this all season long.
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It's like we're shooting for Idaho's 2012 record.
Statistically improbable...we will not keep doing this all season long.
I hope you are right. We need some feel good wins over real competition.
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It's like we're shooting for Idaho's 2012 record.
Statistically improbable...we will not keep doing this all season long.
Thats the hope Weskie. No way we can continue this pace. 2nd from the bottom in D1.
Tyler Sisky was on Charlie5's The Barn show this morning. Full disclosure - I do not like him. I do not like McCready. They are Ole Miss asshats. But....
He knows Freeze as well as anyone having worked for him at ASU and OM. Even made the point its not about whether you love him or hate him, etc etc....just purely on the field, he swears this offense is NOT that hard, and put a lot of the blame here on terrible decision making by the "mid" QBs. He ran through the RPO stuff that Freeze runs and scenarios.....Noted that Thorne is really the first QB under Freeze at the D1 level to have this much trouble grasping it (and possibly Hank Brown at SEC Speed - but yet TBD fully).
I tend to agree here. I think we just don't have good QB's and they make terrible choices in the RPO. But thats ultimately on Freeze not having a solid QB option. His biggest fault here is NOT getting a portal QB this past winter/spring.
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Thats the hope Weskie. No way we can continue this pace. 2nd from the bottom in D1.
Tyler Sisky was on Charlie5's The Barn show this morning. Full disclosure - I do not like him. I do not like McCready. They are Ole Miss asshats. But....
He knows Freeze as well as anyone having worked for him at ASU and OM. Even made the point its not about whether you love him or hate him, etc etc....just purely on the field, he swears this offense is NOT that hard, and put a lot of the blame here on terrible decision making by the "mid" QBs. He ran through the RPO stuff that Freeze runs and scenarios.....Noted that Thorne is really the first QB under Freeze at the D1 level to have this much trouble grasping it (and possibly Hank Brown at SEC Speed - but yet TBD fully).
I tend to agree here. I think we just don't have good QB's and they make terrible choices in the RPO. But thats ultimately on Freeze not having a solid QB option. His biggest fault here is NOT getting a portal QB this past winter/spring.
Metallica said, And Nothing Else Matters.
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Agree with you guys.
Thorne had an offense at Michigan State that was better suited for him. Brown is just young and more of a pro style QB.
Freeze's past QBs were dual threats and nearly all threw a large number of picks.
We can still overcome this with better choices on when to throw. Might lead to more punts but not as many short fields.
Freeze said we are down to 4 corners. That might be out greatest worry heading into the fifth game.
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Freeze said we are down to 4 corners. That might be out greatest worry heading into the fifth game.
Not against that bunch. They are more than likely going to run and play defense/keep away in this game. I don't bet but I'd take the under on the points in this one. Feels like a 13-7 kind of slog.
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His biggest fault here is NOT getting a portal QB this past winter/spring.
In Hugh's defense, the guy did say this offense is not that hard.
So Hugh figured a number QBs have gotten it. PT should be fine...
As for Hank, we knew the increase in SEC speed would get him some. We just didn't figure on the lucky bounce, the fumble, and the INT that wasn't, yet was.
I'd roll with Hank and have him speed up his game. I wish he would have stuck with him against Arky and let him finish the game at SEC speed. I think it would have done wonders for him in the future.
We keep talking about an RPO QB. Just what is that? An option QB? I guy who can hand it off or throw it? A guy who runs it what % of time?
I see Hank as a guy who gets it. He can make the RPO reads. We did fine when running the RPO. It was when we started the drop back stuff that we saw issues. And then it was mostly the speed of the game.
I'd roll with Hank.
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In Hugh's defense, the guy did say this offense is not that hard.
So Hugh figured a number QBs have gotten it. PT should be fine...
As for Hank, we knew the increase in SEC speed would get him some. We just didn't figure on the lucky bounce, the fumble, and the INT that wasn't, yet was.
I'd roll with Hank and have him speed up his game. I wish he would have stuck with him against Arky and let him finish the game at SEC speed. I think it would have done wonders for him in the future.
We keep talking about an RPO QB. Just what is that? An option QB? I guy who can hand it off or throw it? A guy who runs it what % of time?
I see Hank as a guy who gets it. He can make the RPO reads. We did fine when running the RPO. It was when we started the drop back stuff that we saw issues. And then it was mostly the speed of the game.
I'd roll with Hank.
Agree. Roll with Hank & let him develop.
I am willing to bet we only see Thorne from here on out this season, though. Just when you thought we had all seen enough from the 5th year player.
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In Hugh's defense, the guy did say this offense is not that hard.
So Hugh figured a number QBs have gotten it. PT should be fine...
As for Hank, we knew the increase in SEC speed would get him some. We just didn't figure on the lucky bounce, the fumble, and the INT that wasn't, yet was.
I'd roll with Hank and have him speed up his game. I wish he would have stuck with him against Arky and let him finish the game at SEC speed. I think it would have done wonders for him in the future.
We keep talking about an RPO QB. Just what is that? An option QB? I guy who can hand it off or throw it? A guy who runs it what % of time?
I see Hank as a guy who gets it. He can make the RPO reads. We did fine when running the RPO. It was when we started the drop back stuff that we saw issues. And then it was mostly the speed of the game.
I'd roll with Hank.
Your words have meaning, pale face.
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In Hugh's defense, the guy did say this offense is not that hard.
So Hugh figured a number QBs have gotten it. PT should be fine...
As for Hank, we knew the increase in SEC speed would get him some. We just didn't figure on the lucky bounce, the fumble, and the INT that wasn't, yet was.
I'd roll with Hank and have him speed up his game. I wish he would have stuck with him against Arky and let him finish the game at SEC speed. I think it would have done wonders for him in the future.
We keep talking about an RPO QB. Just what is that? An option QB? I guy who can hand it off or throw it? A guy who runs it what % of time?
I see Hank as a guy who gets it. He can make the RPO reads. We did fine when running the RPO. It was when we started the drop back stuff that we saw issues. And then it was mostly the speed of the game.
I'd roll with Hank.
Yep...reps reps reps....let him take his lumps. Not sure the win total is much different between the two but one will be here another 2-3 years and one is done.
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I'm with you guys on Hank.
He had a rough start.
He's watched the film.
He now knows he can't make every ball fit in this league and he can't be faulted for a tipped ball that should have been caught.
We all have the same reaction when a QB throws one directly into a defenders arms... wtf!
Yeah he did that too.