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Title: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: The Six on August 07, 2024, 03:26:45 PM
According to one of the LONE Auburn football stories on Al.com, the players certainly are buying some Payton Thorne stock. A few choice quotes:

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Payton, he’s really comfortable back there. Payton knows everything that’s going on. When he knows what’s going on, he’s more comfortable, he knows the right checks (and) he knows the right reads to make. - Rivaldo Fairweather

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The way he goes through his progressions and reads, it’s crazy. He threw a ball today that made me go, ‘Oh, my God. Payton is so good. I just can’t wait for y’all to see that side of him. - Damari Alston

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think the main thing was the receiver room — we didn’t have a lot of juice in the room. Now, we’ve got those guys and you see Payton kind of flourishing. You need guys around you. He’s flourishing. If you guys are out there today, you can see that Payton just... he’s quick, he’s decisive with everything he does. And I feel like people didn’t really get to see a lot of that last year just because of the struggles that they had on offense. But this year is going to be a different ballgame for sure.- Sam Jackson V

Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: wesfau2 on August 07, 2024, 03:28:36 PM
I believe the kid can win big.  Legit targets to throw to, adequate protection and a robust running game will have our guy showing out.
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: Snaggletiger on August 07, 2024, 03:59:25 PM
I’m cautiously optimistic about Thorne.  He’s got a ton of experience, has had some good success in the past, and definitely looks the part on the read option.  Still, he was inaccurate on a lot of throws last season, and on occasion, do some cringe-worthy stare downs of receivers.

I heard an interview with U Free last week, and he said the biggest difference from last season to now, is Thorne seems completely comfortable with everything, from the playbook, to reads, progressions etc.

If that’s the case, he should be much better with 1. An improved O-line.  They should be a good bit better. 2. U Free far more involved in the offense. 3. “Juice” in the WR room, according to Mr. Jackson V. 
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: The Six on August 07, 2024, 04:00:18 PM
I believe the kid can win big.  Legit targets to throw to, adequate protection and a robust running game will have our guy showing out.

I hope you're right, Wes. Last year, he looked more like Edward Scissorhands out there which is why we had to play a helluva lot of defense.
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: wesfau2 on August 07, 2024, 04:31:18 PM
Relevant (shade at the '23 WR room):

https://x.com/_JHokanson/status/1821254247163289843
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: The Six on August 08, 2024, 08:35:02 AM
Relevant (shade at the '23 WR room):

https://x.com/_JHokanson/status/1821254247163289843

Yeah, last year's guys just weren't SEC-caliber. Facts of that proven on the field. Couple with the mess that was the OC/Playcalling situation, recipe for disaster and it was.
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: jmar on August 08, 2024, 09:43:15 AM
Yeah, last year's guys just weren't SEC-caliber. Facts of that proven on the field. Couple with the mess that was the OC/Playcalling situation, recipe for disaster and it was.
We witnessed a terrible team that was mostly overmatched against even the weakest opponents on the 2023 schedule while somehow summoning a puncher's chance resembling 2009 against our biggest rivals. I don't know what to expect but I do know those weaknesses have been all but eliminated, even bolstered with exception of the quarterback position.
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: wesfau2 on August 08, 2024, 10:08:55 AM
We witnessed a terrible team that was mostly overmatched against even the weakest opponents on the 2023 schedule while somehow summoning a puncher's chance resembling 2009 against our biggest rivals. I don't know what to expect but I do know those weaknesses have been all but eliminated, even bolstered with exception of the quarterback position.

<nodding along>yes, yes...</record scratch>

PT AIN'T THE GODDAMNED PROBLEM!!!!
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: jmar on August 08, 2024, 12:32:03 PM
<nodding along>yes, yes...</record scratch>

PT AIN'T THE GODDAMNED PROBLEM!!!!
<nodding along>yes, yes...</record scratch>

PT AIN'T THE GODDAMNED PROBLEM!!!!
Didn't say he was only his performance would lead most any observer to believe otherwise. I actually think he might be serving up some crow to the army of naysayers.

Btw I don't say it as much as some of the others but you are smarter than this.

Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: Snaggletiger on August 08, 2024, 02:48:40 PM
Didn't say he was only his performance would lead most any observer to believe otherwise. I actually think he might be serving up some crow to the army of naysayers.

Btw I don't say it as much as some of the others but you are smarter than this.

Last season, U Free frequently said Thorne makes all the throws and looks the part in practice.  That didn't always translate into success on Saturdays. I think the vast majority of that was due to the system in place, and the definite lack of talent around him.  But not all, by any means.  He did some stupid shit on more than one or two occasions.

As I said above, the O-line should be significantly improved.  Not great, or dominant, but a hell of a lot better than we've had in maybe 5-6 years.  U Free will definitely be 100% more involved than he was last season, along with new OC, Derrick Nix.  And the "Juice" in the WR room?

Take away the studs in this freshman class, who, if at Alabama, would be the #1, #2, #3 and #4 top preseason Heisman contenders because, you know, Alabama. Forget them for a second.  Take the combined 2023 numbers of transfers, KeAndre Lambert-Smith and Robert Lewis alone.

123 receptions for 1,550 yards and 11 TD's

Now take the combined 2023 stats of the 9 (NINE) wide receivers for us.

98 receptions for 1,284 yards and 7 TD's.

So, take that production that transferred in, add who was by far, our leading receiver last year, TE Revolver Good Forecast, then bring the juice from Cam Coleman, Perry Thompson, Malcolm Simmons, Bryce Cain and Sam Jackson, Jr. VIXXV.

I think Thorne should be able to fix most of his shortcomings from last season. If he does....
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: Kaos on August 08, 2024, 03:22:07 PM
Every cowboy sings his sad, sad song
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: The Six on August 08, 2024, 03:26:20 PM
Every cowboy sings his sad, sad song

Like the knife that cuts you, the wound heals, but the scar, that scar remains...
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: Kaos on August 08, 2024, 03:36:07 PM
Like the knife that cuts you, the wound heals, but the scar, that scar remains...

now I hear you found somebody Hugh
And that we never meant that much to you
To hear that tears me up inside....
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: Snakebite on August 08, 2024, 03:39:52 PM
Last season, U Free frequently said Thorne makes all the throws and looks the part in practice.  That didn't always translate into success on Saturdays. I think the vast majority of that was due to the system in place, and the definite lack of talent around him.  But not all, by any means.  He did some stupid shit on more than one or two occasions.

As I said above, the O-line should be significantly improved.  Not great, or dominant, but a hell of a lot better than we've had in maybe 5-6 years.  U Free will definitely be 100% more involved than he was last season, along with new OC, Derrick Nix.  And the "Juice" in the WR room?

Take away the studs in this freshman class, who, if at Alabama, would be the #1, #2, #3 and #4 top preseason Heisman contenders because, you know, Alabama. Forget them for a second.  Take the combined 2023 numbers of transfers, KeAndre Lambert-Smith and Robert Lewis alone.

123 receptions for 1,550 yards and 11 TD's

Now take the combined 2023 stats of the 9 (NINE) wide receivers for us.

98 receptions for 1,284 yards and 7 TD's.

So, take that production that transferred in, add who was by far, our leading receiver last year, TE Revolver Good Forecast, then bring the juice from Cam Coleman, Perry Thompson, Malcolm Simmons, Bryce Cain and Sam Jackson, Jr. VIXXV.

I think Thorne should be able to fix most of his shortcomings from last season. If he does....

I want the midtown mullet to make me forget about skirting out of bounds short on a 4th down against LSU & playing fetal beetle against A&M. I smelt his vagina through the TV when those things happened. No more playing scared. Play to win. Mistakes happen, but I wanna see some courage and heart.

If he can’t do it, give me the backup.
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: Snaggletiger on August 08, 2024, 04:26:39 PM
I want the midtown mullet to make me forget about skirting out of bounds short on a 4th down against LSU & playing fetal beetle against A&M. I smelt his vagina through the TV when those things happened. No more playing scared. Play to win. Mistakes happen, but I wanna see some courage and heart.

If he can’t do it, give me the backup.

You've got to let go of those HB24 dreams, man.  You're only making yourself sick with stress.  It's not good for you.  I'm really trying to help here. 
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: Snaggletiger on August 08, 2024, 04:29:11 PM
now I hear you found somebody Hugh
And that we never meant that much to you
To hear that tears me up inside....

And Snags will cut a bitch with his knife, I guess...
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: Snakebite on August 08, 2024, 04:30:58 PM
You've got to let go of those HB24 dreams, man.  You're only making yourself sick with stress.  It's not good for you.  I'm really trying to help here.

Thing is, I want Payton to play for Auburn like he did for Meat Chicken State. If he does that, I’ll lead us all in Bodda Getta. I want him to prove me wrong.

Hank Brown will be our first Championship QB of the Hue Fresh era. You heard it here first, folks.
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: Snaggletiger on August 08, 2024, 04:40:05 PM
Thing is, I want Payton to play for Auburn like he did for Meat Chicken State. If he does that, I’ll lead us all in Bodda Getta. I want him to prove me wrong.

Hank Brown will be our first Championship QB of the Hue Fresh era. You heard it here first, folks.

I don't know about that second part, although he was the titz against Maryland's 8th skring.

I'm the same way, though.  Despite his shortcomings, I think Thorne is a decent QB who transferred into a much mo shittier situation than he was expecting. Every expert and analyst this time last year, had us picked last, or next to last in the West.  There was really legit reasoning behind that. We sucked!
 
We had 3 SEC wins against the only teams picked to be mo shittier than we were.
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: The Six on August 09, 2024, 08:15:02 AM
Hank Brown will be our first Championship QB of the Hue Fresh era. You heard it here first, folks.

That's bold, Cotton. Looks like he's fighting Holden Grenier for sloppy seconds.
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: jmar on August 09, 2024, 09:29:50 AM
I think we can go anywhere from 8-4 to even 10-2 depending on how we do in back to back road games at Missouri and Kentucky.
No illusions about beating Georgia in Athens but we have a very good staff and talent that will only improve into the month of October where it gets dicey.

Know it's crazy to think this way given we haven't beaten anyone of any consequence since 2019 when JaTarvious Boobee Whitlow went off for 114 yards in Tuscaloosa but
this is that kind of team.
Auburn went 9-3 with a smattering of talent compared to this one.
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: GH2001 on August 09, 2024, 09:44:34 AM
I think we can go anywhere from 8-4 to even 10-2 depending on how we do in back to back road games at Missouri and Kentucky.
No illusions about beating Georgia in Athens but we have a very good staff and talent that will only improve into the month of October where it gets dicey.

Know it's crazy to think this way given we haven't beaten anyone of any consequence since 2019 when JaTarvious Boobee Whitlow went off for 114 yards in Tuscaloosa but
this is that kind of team.
Auburn went 9-3 with a smattering if talent compared to this one.

I'd actually feel decent about UGA if it were in Auburn. Had them on the ropes last year, and Bowers went all He-Man. He aint on their sideline this year.
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: jmar on August 19, 2024, 01:47:14 PM
Thorne doesn't have to throw for Penix, Nix, Beck numbers to get us there, just somewhere in the neighborhood of Milroe or McCaffery.
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: The Six on August 20, 2024, 09:23:08 AM
Hugh Freeze names Hank Brown as backup QB.

Quote "He’s thrown some really good balls."
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: Snakebite on August 20, 2024, 12:00:26 PM
Hugh Freeze names Hank Brown as backup QB.

Quote "He’s thrown some really good balls."

Good enough for me. #HB2025
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: Kaos on August 20, 2024, 01:04:33 PM
Hugh Freeze names Hank Brown as backup QB.

Quote "He’s thrown some really good balls."

So has Kama....  I'm too tired to even do this.
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: djsimp on August 20, 2024, 02:55:17 PM
Hugh Freeze names Hank Brown as backup QB.

Quote "He’s thrown some really good balls."

Saw a LOA episode earlier with Hank. He said passes to Cam become a 99/1 catch and that he is a "freak"...
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: Kaos on August 20, 2024, 08:24:32 PM
Saw a LOA episode earlier with Hank.

That's not how you spell Law&Order.
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: djsimp on August 20, 2024, 09:28:30 PM
That's not how you spell Law&Order.

Wrong Hank
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: GH2001 on August 21, 2024, 11:59:32 AM
That's not how you spell Law&Order.

Its spelled "Chuck Norris' Right and Left Legs"
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: The Six on September 07, 2024, 08:23:28 PM
Hell to the no
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: GH2001 on September 07, 2024, 09:10:00 PM
Fuck Thorne. I think we’ve all seen enough. He is what he is. Jeremy Johnson part 2. Deer in headlights in game.
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: Kaos on September 08, 2024, 12:21:05 AM
Fuck Thorne. I think we’ve all seen enough. He is what he is. Jeremy Johnson part 2. Deer in headlights in game.

A decade of this futility. 
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: jmar on September 08, 2024, 11:57:09 AM
Hank Brown seems like the obvious choice based solely on his performance in mop up duty in the loss to Maryland. Did more with a cardboard box in that brief glimpse to make us wonder how he might perform with all of the latest toys at his disposal.

Walker White is an afterthought. He's advertised as a very dynamic physical specimen that's still in QB kindergarten.

Holden Geriner is antsy.
We have a long list of nervous types that have never recovered their high school glory after a disasterous outing on the Plains. Sad when even the clipboard holder is having a panic attack on the sidelines.

Brown might not be able to scoot for valuable yards the way Thorne can in some instances to keep a drive alive but he could give us what Mendoza brought for Cal Saturday afternoon at Jordan Hare.

We only want to win.


 
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: Kaos on September 08, 2024, 12:21:44 PM
Write it down now.

There will be no change. 
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: Snakebite on September 08, 2024, 01:04:46 PM
Write it down now.

There will be no change.

I am afraid this will be correct. It drives me up the wall.
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: Kaos on September 08, 2024, 02:20:34 PM
I am afraid this will be correct. It drives me up the wall.

We are at the point of needing a Dye/Saban “nuclear” option. 

Saban was a last chance, Hail Mary for that program.  Had it failed? Had he failed? It would have been over for them for decades.  Fade into obscurity like Nebraska or ole Miss. 

I won’t ever forget how he took things over (like Dye did) from day one.  Telling my friend who was a long-time hanger on and part of the program with Stallings to leave the building unless he had a reason to be there…. Stuff like that took guts.  If he hadn’t gotten results? Would have gotten him fired.

That’s not who we hire. 

I don’t want a dictator, necessarily.   But I’m tired of mushmelons.  Teams reflect the personality of their coach.  Never forget that. 
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: jmar on September 08, 2024, 03:30:04 PM
I doubt Ol Hugh is ordering everyone to assemble for an 8 mile run in the morning.

 
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: War Damn Six on September 08, 2024, 05:17:14 PM
I doubt Ol Hugh is ordering everyone to assemble for an 8 mile run in the morning.

 

What does Marshall Mathers have to do with this?
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: chinook on September 08, 2024, 06:26:11 PM
there's vomit on his sweater already, mom's spaghetti. 
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: wesfau2 on September 09, 2024, 10:04:10 AM
I gave the kid all the benefit of the doubt in the world, but holy fucking christ on a crutch was that an awful performance.

I predict he gets a very short window in the NM game to produce or get the hook.

Also, WHAT THE FUCK IS THE POINT OF THE IN-HELMET COMMS if someone can't shout in Payton's ear: CAM'S SHOULDER IS FUCKED.  DON'T THROW HIM THE BALL!?!?!?!?
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 09, 2024, 10:38:10 AM
Rehashing what's already been said, for the most part. 

Total coaching clusterfuck, on both sides of the ball:

1. If you can't see that Thorne doesn't perform well in games, and especially under pressure, you need your head examined.  Are any of the back ups better?  Who knows, but what's clear is that Thorne has become a detriment to the offense.

2. Whoever you put out there, you have to have the awareness to put the players in the best position to succeed.  If the D is bringing LB's every single play, you need to get the ball out the QB's hands in short order.  Everyone on this board can give you 5-6 ways to do that.  Apparently, those ways escaped you.

3. If the opposing QB is 36 for 36 in the first quarter, you may want to consider NOT rushing 3 down linemen and having them crash down inside every single play.  And you may want to consider making that adjustment BEFORE halftime.

I'm well aware that as fans, we always feel like we could call better games than the guys getting paid millions to do it.  But Saturday, a kindergartener with a fist full of Crayolas could have drawn up a better game plan than that shit.  Saturday was disturbing on a lot of levels. It's obvious that Thorne is not the answer.  But that stinking turd that was rolled out there Saturday sits squarely in the lap of Hugh Freeze and his staff. Doesn't matter who he puts out there if that's the best you can do. 
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: jmar on September 09, 2024, 11:23:26 AM
If you can dress him down on the sidelines in a slaughter you ought to be able to pull him when your team needs a spark.
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: AUJarhead on September 09, 2024, 11:28:46 AM
Someone say crayons?
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: jmar on September 09, 2024, 11:32:07 AM
Someone say crayons?
I like cornflower and brick red.
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: Kaos on September 09, 2024, 11:45:38 AM
I gave the kid all the benefit of the doubt in the world, but holy fucking christ on a crutch was that an awful performance.

I predict he gets a very short window in the NM game to produce or get the hook.

Also, WHAT THE FUCK IS THE POINT OF THE IN-HELMET COMMS if someone can't shout in Payton's ear: CAM'S SHOULDER IS FUCKED.  DON'T THROW HIM THE BALL!?!?!?!?


Would it matter? 

I just saw where Thorne averages 126 yards per game in his 15 starts against FBS teams.  Pretty sure I could do that. 
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: jmar on September 09, 2024, 12:28:26 PM
Rehashing what's already been said, for the most part. 

Total coaching clusterfuck, on both sides of the ball:

1. If you can't see that Thorne doesn't perform well in games, and especially under pressure, you need your head examined.  Are any of the back ups better?  Who knows, but what's clear is that Thorne has become a detriment to the offense.

2. Whoever you put out there, you have to have the awareness to put the players in the best position to succeed.  If the D is bringing LB's every single play, you need to get the ball out the QB's hands in short order.  Everyone on this board can give you 5-6 ways to do that.  Apparently, those ways escaped you.

3. If the opposing QB is 36 for 36 in the first quarter, you may want to consider NOT rushing 3 down linemen and having them crash down inside every single play.  And you may want to consider making that adjustment BEFORE halftime.

I'm well aware that as fans, we always feel like we could call better games than the guys getting paid millions to do it.  But Saturday, a kindergartener with a fist full of Crayolas could have drawn up a better game plan than that shit.  Saturday was disturbing on a lot of levels. It's obvious that Thorne is not the answer.  But that stinking turd that was rolled out there Saturday sits squarely in the lap of Hugh Freeze and his staff. Doesn't matter who he puts out there if that's the best you can do. 
I think the offensive line will improve as will the defense. A@M was no barometer. Now the staff can make the necessary adjustments week 2 to week 3. Should they have made in-game adjustments? Yes!
The best medicine is to give Hank Brown or another a shot. If they play well the rest of the team should respond. If you continue on this path however all of that positive energy about the new talent and recruiting momentum gets buried.
Cal thinks it can walk into Tuscaloosa and win.
 
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: The Six on September 09, 2024, 01:56:09 PM

Would it matter? 

I just saw where Thorne averages 126 yards per game in his 15 starts against FBS teams.  Pretty sure I could do that.

Conclusion: He mid.
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: chinook on September 09, 2024, 03:01:09 PM
what's the big deal about being shitty one more season?  ...2025 is our year, right?   but don't mind the current WR group heading for Dr. Brown's portalizer...it's still going to be our year.  we run 5 deep at RB, unless we don't. 

we're any everything school anyway, well if you don't include the football program. 

hugh disaster is going to make us good in 2025. 
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: Snakebite on September 09, 2024, 03:41:24 PM
what's the big deal about being shitty one more season?  ...2025 is our year, right?   but don't mind the current WR group heading for Dr. Brown's portalizer...it's still going to be our year.  we run 5 deep at RB, unless we don't. 

we're any everything school anyway, well if you don't include the football program. 

hugh disaster is going to make us good in 2025.


Sucking droopy butt holes should not be a normal occurrence for Auburn Football, yet here we are. We are going through the Tennessee trials of irrelevance, and have been for a few years.

I am one of the ones that likes Freeze, but holy shit at the lack of awareness & commitment to stubbornness. If shit isn’t working, try something different.
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: jmar on September 09, 2024, 03:53:45 PM
Conclusion: He mid.
He is.
And I don't care about his consistency in practice. Bo Jackson showed up on game day. Some kids just deliver when it counts.
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: The Six on September 09, 2024, 04:08:47 PM
He is.
And I don't care about his consistency in practice. Bo Jackson showed up on game day. Some kids just deliver when it counts.

Larger point though - swapping him out isn't going to automatically fix things. It's a fundamental, core, foundational issue. That doesn't get fixed in season.
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: jmar on September 09, 2024, 04:42:42 PM
Larger point though - swapping him out isn't going to automatically fix things. It's a fundamental, core, foundational issue. That doesn't get fixed in season.
It can make a huge difference on the scoreboard which is what you are able to control now. I'm not aware of or privy to any core or foundational issues that can't be remedied with some coaching as in O-line. The defense needs to play as a unit for several games. Many new faces in the secondary.

If you're speaking mostly of Freeze then I could only say he hasn't forgotten how to coach, nor has Durkin etc.

Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: Kaos on September 09, 2024, 05:52:31 PM
Larger point though - swapping him out isn't going to automatically fix things. It's a fundamental, core, foundational issue. That doesn't get fixed in season.

New record!  This is the 12th year in a row these same words have been spoken.
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: Kaos on September 09, 2024, 05:53:40 PM
If you're speaking mostly of Freeze then I could only say he hasn't forgotten how to coach, nor has Durkin etc.

I submit that he never knew.
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: jmar on September 09, 2024, 06:22:39 PM
I submit that he never knew.
And I will add that the reason Gus is gone is bc he couldn't beat teams like Cal. I don't necessarily think Freeze is an upgrade over Malzahn... at least for now.
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: GH2001 on September 10, 2024, 10:52:19 AM
Conclusion: He mid.

Mid or Avg would be desirable for him. Thats all I ever hoped for. Be a game mgr. Use the weapons around him. Just don't LOSE games. But....Hes bottom barrel bad. Worst QB in the SEC at the moment.
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: wesfau2 on September 10, 2024, 12:05:51 PM
Mid or Avg would be desirable for him. Thats all I ever hoped for. Be a game mgr. Use the weapons around him. Just don't LOSE games. But....Hes bottom barrel bad. Worst QB in the SEC at the moment.

And it's not even particularly close.  Fuck.
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: Kaos on September 11, 2024, 12:48:14 AM
Thorny burning bridges. 

Complaining to the media that fans are hitting him up on Venmo for refunds of bets they lost. 
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: CCTAU on September 11, 2024, 12:58:25 AM
Thorny burning bridges. 

Complaining to the media that fans are hitting him up on Venmo for refunds of bets they lost.

Burning bridges with whom?
They already don’t like him. I propose it’s only fair to expose the shittiest of our fans.
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: Kaos on September 11, 2024, 08:36:11 AM
Burning bridges with whom?
They already don’t like him. I propose it’s only fair to expose the shittiest of our fans.

Right.  Because that’s a good look.   
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: War Damn Six on September 11, 2024, 09:02:38 AM
Right.  Because that’s a good look.

CTE don’t give a fuck!  Fuck perception!  That doesn’t make a difference with future cruits! 
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: jmar on September 11, 2024, 09:19:34 AM
What does Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy have to do with Auburns's dismal QB play?
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: jmar on September 11, 2024, 09:33:55 AM
I have read on more than one occaision that Thorne is like having an extra coach on the field. By all indications I'm sure he's a nice young man. He might have a bright future as a football coach.

Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 11, 2024, 10:28:14 AM
Perusing the Tik Toks last night, and came across one that said, "Let's look at the top 3 worst quarterbacks in college football". 

Thorne was this guy's #2. I think that's a little low.
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: The Six on September 11, 2024, 10:50:56 AM
Perusing the Tik Toks last night, and came across one that said, "Let's look at the top 3 worst quarterbacks in college football". 

Thorne was this guy's #2. I think that's a little low.

Let’s not temp Vanilla Vick to go for the gold here because he will sure as hell do it.
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 13, 2024, 09:59:38 AM
At this point, what could possibly be gained by starting Thorne?  I’m not throwing in the towel on the season two games in.  I put this past Saturday’s shit sandwich more on the coaching staff than anyone else.  A simple adjustment in the first quarter, to rushing 4-5 instead of 3 every single down, might have won the game with D alone. Getting the ball out of the QB’s hands when they’re bringing linebackers every play could have been just what the O needed to get kick started.  Ear-Regardless, in the end, you’re still relying on Payton Thorne to make those throws.

Thorne is a 12th year senior.  He’s gone after this season, and playing him does nothing to prepare this team for the future.  Stick with him, and you’re going into next year with one big, fat question at the most important position on the field.  If you don’t have enough sample size by now to see that the guy is simply not an SEC caliber QB, you need your head examined.  No one here, or anywhere that I’ve heard, is saying HB24, or Two-Dub, or Gurrnrr are better.  Nobody knows that at this point.  But you do know that you’re not going anywhere with PT under center.

I heard it said perfectly yesterday.  I hope Monday, we’re talking about how Hank Brown did, and not that Payton Thorne threw for 311 yards and 3 TD’s, because if it’s Thorne, Auburn is still in the same boat.
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: jmar on September 13, 2024, 10:19:20 AM
At this point, what could possibly be gained by starting Thorne?  I’m not throwing in the towel on the season two games in.  I put this past Saturday’s shit sandwich more on the coaching staff than anyone else.  A simple adjustment in the first quarter, to rushing 4-5 instead of 3 every single down, might have won the game with D alone. Getting the ball out of the QB’s hands when they’re bringing linebackers every play could have been just what the O needed to get kick started.  Ear-Regardless, in the end, you’re still relying on Payton Thorne to make those throws.

Thorne is a 12th year senior.  He’s gone after this season, and playing him does nothing to prepare this team for the future.  Stick with him, and you’re going into next year with one big, fat question at the most important position on the field.  If you don’t have enough sample size by now to see that the guy is simply not an SEC caliber QB, you need your head examined.  No one here, or anywhere that I’ve heard, is saying HB24, or Two-Dub, or Gurrnrr are better.  Nobody knows that at this point.  But you do know that you’re not going anywhere with PT under center.

I heard it said perfectly yesterday.  I hope Monday, we’re talking about how Hank Brown did, and not that Payton Thorne threw for 311 yards and 3 TD’s, because if it’s Thorne, Auburn is still in the same boat.

This guy knows his shit because I'm in total agreement. Yeah.

Brown could go 65% with no turnovers while leaning on a run game that needs work.
Give him some quick throws just get rid of the ball quicker than Thorne and stop trying to craft some kind of a Duhvenchy out of a common pitch and catch.
Tom Terrific was first a field manager and that Super Bowl season was a total team effort. He showed improvement as the season progressed.

We aren't driving a stake through Thorne's heart, we just want to see another guy show us what he's got.

Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: jmar on September 13, 2024, 10:55:22 AM
Walker White might turn into the most legendary Friday Night hash slinger in the anus of Waffle House but you don't start at the top people. You train as a prep cook, mind the irons, man the toaster and bide your time until your number is called. Is he a student of the game, a grill rat? How can we know until the regular cook pulls a no call- no show and White is thrust into the heat if battle to sink or swim. Hey! I asked fer my eggs soft scrambled, not murdered.
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: Snakebite on September 13, 2024, 11:18:32 AM
Walker White might turn into the most legendary Friday Night hash slinger in the anus of Waffle House but you don't start at the top people. You train as a prep cook, mind the irons, man the toaster and bide your time until your number is called. Is he a student of the game, a grill rat? How can we know until the regular cook pulls a no call- no show and White is thrust into the heat if battle to sink or swim. Hey! I asked fer my eggs soft scrambled, not murdered.

Huh?
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 13, 2024, 11:21:27 AM
Walker White might turn into the most legendary Friday Night hash slinger in the anus of Waffle House but you don't start at the top people. You train as a prep cook, mind the irons, man the toaster and bide your time until your number is called. Is he a student of the game, a grill rat? How can we know until the regular cook pulls a no call- no show and White is thrust into the heat if battle to sink or swim. Hey! I asked fer my eggs soft scrambled, not murdered.

I can get a good look at a T-bone by sticking my head up a bull's ass, but I'd rather take a butcher's word for it.
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: War Damn Six on September 13, 2024, 11:25:03 AM
Walker White might turn into the most legendary Friday Night hash slinger in the anus of Waffle House but you don't start at the top people. You train as a prep cook, mind the irons, man the toaster and bide your time until your number is called. Is he a student of the game, a grill rat? How can we know until the regular cook pulls a no call- no show and White is thrust into the heat if battle to sink or swim. Hey! I asked fer my eggs soft scrambled, not murdered.

Walker White is the one who knocks.

Say his name!
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: jmar on September 13, 2024, 11:49:10 AM
I can get a good look at a T-bone by sticking my head up a bull's ass, but I'd rather take a butcher's word for it.
Speaking of t bones, I heard that line repeated just a few weeks ago and it's still priceless.
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: War Damn Six on September 13, 2024, 01:15:57 PM
I can get a good look at a T-bone by sticking my head up a bull's ass, but I'd rather take a butcher's word for it.

Actually, I don’t think that is accurate at all. 
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: Buzz Killington on September 13, 2024, 01:58:42 PM
Actually, I don’t think that is accurate at all.
It's gotta be your bull
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: jmar on September 13, 2024, 02:05:23 PM
Actually, I don’t think that is accurate at all. 
I can picture a butcher asking Snags, 'Look fella I have work to do. You want anything or are you just gonna talk me to death?
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: jmar on September 13, 2024, 02:08:05 PM
It's gotta be your bull

Where in the hell have you been?
You've been missed.
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 13, 2024, 03:06:01 PM
Where in the hell have you been?
You've been missed.

By who?
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: War Damn Six on September 13, 2024, 04:37:50 PM
By who?

*whom

And you want to be my latex salesman.
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: jmar on September 13, 2024, 04:42:14 PM
*whom

And you want to be my latex salesman.
Cheers!
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 13, 2024, 05:11:17 PM
*whom

And you want to be my latex salesman.

Conjunction Junction, what's your function?
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: War Damn Six on September 13, 2024, 05:34:07 PM
Conjunction Junction, what's your function?

And, BUTT, or can get you pretty far.
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 13, 2024, 05:40:16 PM
And, BUTT, or can get you pretty far.

I see what you did there.
Title: Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
Post by: War Damn Six on September 13, 2024, 05:51:17 PM
I see what you did there.

I thought I was being subtle.