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How much is too much with this guy? What will it take for the GOP to dump him? How about the rank and file R voters?
“The fact that Mr. Trump sexually abused — indeed, raped — Ms. Carroll has been conclusively established…”
https://twitter.com/KatiePhang/status/1747114477797966331
RAPIST. The guy was found, after the evidence was presented, to be a goddamned RAPIST.
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How much is too much with this guy? What will it take for the GOP to dump him? How about the rank and file R voters?
“The fact that Mr. Trump sexually abused — indeed, raped — Ms. Carroll has been conclusively established…”
https://twitter.com/KatiePhang/status/1747114477797966331
RAPIST. The guy was found, after the evidence was presented, to be a goddamned RAPIST.
You sure say rape a lot.
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How much is too much with this guy? What will it take for the GOP to dump him? How about the rank and file R voters?
“The fact that Mr. Trump sexually abused — indeed, raped — Ms. Carroll has been conclusively established…”
https://twitter.com/KatiePhang/status/1747114477797966331
RAPIST. The guy was found, after the evidence was presented, to be a goddamned RAPIST.
Riiiiiiight.
You are so full of bullshit you see in monotone brown.
Meanwhile the Grifter In Chief rolls on, wearing his tiger-print underwear while he wanders the halls of the White House, searching for a teenage daughter or grand-daughter to drag into the shower with him.
JFC.
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In the "I Did Not Know" Political arena, this quote from Nikki Haley:
"Joy Reid lives in a different America than I do," Haley told Brian Kilmeade Tuesday. "I mean, yes, I'm a brown girl that grew up in a small rural town in South Carolina who became the first female minority governor in history, who became a U.N. ambassador and who is now running for president. If that's not the American dream, I don't know what is."
Obviously, I wasn't paying attention, or I need prescription glasses. Nikki Haley is brown people?
Now, back to The Donald grabbin' em' right in the pussy.
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In the "I Did Not Know" Political arena, this quote from Nikki Haley:
"Joy Reid lives in a different America than I do," Haley told Brian Kilmeade Tuesday. "I mean, yes, I'm a brown girl that grew up in a small rural town in South Carolina who became the first female minority governor in history, who became a U.N. ambassador and who is now running for president. If that's not the American dream, I don't know what is."
Obviously, I wasn't paying attention, or I need prescription glasses. Nikki Haley is brown people?
Now, back to The Donald grabbin' em' right in the pussy.
It was a big part of her story in the beginning. Her name is Nimrata and she used to tell stories about her family experiencing racism in SC (ie - her dad getting shit for wearing a turban).
Once you go national, though, you gotta lose the ethnicity. Jesus, one GOP voter in Iowa just said that he couldn't vote for Vivek (who is Indian) because of 9/11.
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In the "I Did Not Know" Political arena, this quote from Nikki Haley:
"Joy Reid lives in a different America than I do," Haley told Brian Kilmeade Tuesday. "I mean, yes, I'm a brown girl that grew up in a small rural town in South Carolina who became the first female minority governor in history, who became a U.N. ambassador and who is now running for president. If that's not the American dream, I don't know what is."
Obviously, I wasn't paying attention, or I need prescription glasses. Nikki Haley is brown people?
Now, back to The Donald grabbin' em' right in the pussy.
1> Her name isn't Nikki Haley. It's Nimarata Randhawa.
2> Haley is her married name, Nikki is the nickname she selected for herself.
3> Her parents are Punjab Indians who moved to Canada then to SC
4> She's "brown" when it serves her purposes
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It was a big part of her story in the beginning. Her name is Nimrata and she used to tell stories about her family experiencing racism in SC (ie - her dad getting shit for wearing a turban).
Once you go national, though, you gotta lose the ethnicity. Jesus, one GOP voter in Iowa just said that he couldn't vote for Vivek (who is Indian) because of 9/11.
That was just the guys at work. They would take punjabs at him, because he was always calling in Sikh.
Bada bing. Thanks, I'll be here all week.
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Well, I would still put my dick in her butt.
Mmmm....Nimarata butt secks!
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In the "I Did Not Know" Political arena, this quote from Nikki Haley:
"Joy Reid lives in a different America than I do," Haley told Brian Kilmeade Tuesday. "I mean, yes, I'm a brown girl that grew up in a small rural town in South Carolina who became the first female minority governor in history, who became a U.N. ambassador and who is now running for president. If that's not the American dream, I don't know what is."
Obviously, I wasn't paying attention, or I need prescription glasses. Nikki Haley is brown people?
Now, back to The Donald grabbin' em' right in the pussy.
I did not know that Haley understands the plight of the African and American. You do know that I half understand it? The bottom half of me, anyway.
I sure do wish the Donald would stop grabbing bitches by the pussy and raping Wes. There’s zero chance of pulling ‘24 off if he keeps this shit up.
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Well, I would still put my dick in her butt.
Mmmm....Nimarata butt secks!
As long as she's not president, I don't care what you do to her.
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As long as she's not president, I don't care what you do to her.
That would be Presidential butt secks in the Oval Orifice.
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That would be Presidential butt secks in the Oval Orifice.
We've seen enough of that...
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Riiiiiiight.
You are so full of bullshit you see in monotone brown.
You could have stopped here. Leftists are in lockstep. They repeat the same lane bullshit over and over. Did you see where msnbc and cnn would not even show Trumps Iowa victory comments? The elites on the left are becoming desperate
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You could have stopped here. Leftists are in lockstep. They repeat the same lane bullshit over and over. Did you see where msnbc and cnn would not even show Trumps Iowa victory comments? The elites on the left are becoming desperate
Desperate...for what? Covering his "comments" is just splicing together every grievance rant he's ever droned on...he's got no material. Fuck's sake, he thinks he won Iowa twice.
But, please, expound on why this guy continues to receive your support. I am honestly curious what would it take to disqualify him in your eyes?
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Desperate...for what? Covering his "comments" is just splicing together every grievance rant he's ever droned on...he's got no material. Fuck's sake, he thinks he won Iowa twice.
But, please, expound on why this guy continues to receive your support. I am honestly curious what would it take to disqualify him in your eyes?
I’m answering this for CTE. Because he is the best president in the history of America.
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Desperate...for what? Covering his "comments" is just splicing together every grievance rant he's ever droned on...he's got no material. Fuck's sake, he thinks he won Iowa twice.
But, please, expound on why this guy continues to receive your support. I am honestly curious what would it take to disqualify him in your eyes?
Definitely not trumped up (pun!) horseshit.
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If anyone supports either of the two party candidates, you’re idiots. I realize one will be elected but both of the worst choices.
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If anyone supports either of the two party candidates, you’re idiots. I realize one will be elected but both of the worst choices.
AUChizad! I thought that was you! What up my homie?
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If anyone supports either of the two party candidates, you’re idiots. I realize one will be elected but both of the worst choices.
Argue the merits of their politics, sure, but the two candidates are NOTHING ALIKE. One is flatly telling you he will be a dictator. He didn't want to leave office the first time (despite losing spectacularly)... Do you think he'll go gentle into that goodnight next time? He represents the actual, literal end of our democracy and those who support him are dangerously misled.
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Argue the merits of their politics, sure, but the two candidates are NOTHING ALIKE. One is flatly telling you he will be a dictator. He didn't want to leave office the first time (despite losing spectacularly)... Do you think he'll go gentle into that goodnight next time? He represents the actual, literal end of our democracy and those who support him are dangerously misled.
I would respectfully argue that those who don’t support him represent the literal ones who suck the cock on a regular basis. Not just an every once and a while suck.
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Argue the merits of their politics, sure, but the two candidates are NOTHING ALIKE. One is flatly telling you he will be a dictator. He didn't want to leave office the first time (despite losing spectacularly)... Do you think he'll go gentle into that goodnight next time? He represents the actual, literal end of our democracy and those who support him are dangerously misled.
the second is a dictator and doesn't know who's office he's in. he represents the actual opposite literal end of our democracy and those who support him are dangerously misled.
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Argue the merits of their politics, sure, but the two candidates are NOTHING ALIKE. One is flatly telling you he will be a dictator. He didn't want to leave office the first time (despite losing spectacularly)... Do you think he'll go gentle into that goodnight next time? He represents the actual, literal end of our democracy and those who support him are dangerously misled.
You are a brainwashed, deluded loon.
I truly and honestly pity you.
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If anyone supports either of the two party candidates, you’re idiots. I realize one will be elected but both of the worst choices.
Support?
I’d prefer to have better candidates. We don’t have that option and haven’t in decades.
In that case, you have to objectively choose the better of the choices presented. When one is an incestous pedophile who is corrupt to the core, whose social policies are immoral and fractious, whose foreign policy is an unmitigated disaster, whose border policy undermines the safety and security of the nation, and whose mental decline is starkly obvious? Gotta roll the dice.
I cannot support globalist agenda. So whoever is on the other side of that, even if it’s Nic Cage with Travolta as a running mate … and their slogan is “tomatoes for all” my faith in America would cause me to vote for them.
I saw something elsewhere that sort of sums it up for me. Chemotherapy is unpleasant and can be painful. But when the alternative is cancer and a grueling death?
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the second is a dictator and doesn't know who's office he's in. he represents the actual opposite literal end of our democracy and those who support him are dangerously misled.
If you think there is a shred of equivalency between these two candidates (and I'm not a Biden "fan") then you are detached from reality.
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An excerpt from a piece by Dan Gainor, that's very telling in my view.
Journalism is in chaos. It is an industry where only a tiny percentage of people dare hold different political opinions and more than 60% of journalists think the news business is going in the "wrong direction." Don’t take my word for it. Take theirs.
More than 1,600 journalists responded to a survey from Syracuse University’s Newhouse School of Public Communications and the results are damning. Only 3.4% of U.S. journalists claim to be Republicans, with another 36.4% saying they’re Democrats. That’s more than 10 times more Democrats than Republicans. Or at least the ones who will admit they are on the left.
More than half (51.7%) call themselves "independents" and another 8.5% "other." Journalists have been getting these survey questions for more than 50 years and they have grown savvier. Many carefully list themselves in those other categories to avoid being called biased. So, just keep that 3.4% number in mind. Out of all journalists.
Or let’s give the real number – 96.6% are not Republicans.
That’s how Russiagate and Russian collusion get rammed down the throats of the American public like the scandal really happened. (Hint: It didn’t.) That’s how they cover for a president who is barely coherent much of the time and lies constantly about his family, his accomplishments and his past.
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An excerpt from a piece by Dan Gainor, that's very telling in my view.
Journalism is in chaos. It is an industry where only a tiny percentage of people dare hold different political opinions and more than 60% of journalists think the news business is going in the "wrong direction." Don’t take my word for it. Take theirs.
More than 1,600 journalists responded to a survey from Syracuse University’s Newhouse School of Public Communications and the results are damning. Only 3.4% of U.S. journalists claim to be Republicans, with another 36.4% saying they’re Democrats. That’s more than 10 times more Democrats than Republicans. Or at least the ones who will admit they are on the left.
More than half (51.7%) call themselves "independents" and another 8.5% "other." Journalists have been getting these survey questions for more than 50 years and they have grown savvier. Many carefully list themselves in those other categories to avoid being called biased. So, just keep that 3.4% number in mind. Out of all journalists.
Or let’s give the real number – 96.6% are not Republicans.
That’s how Russiagate and Russian collusion get rammed down the throats of the American public like the scandal really happened. (Hint: It didn’t.) That’s how they cover for a president who is barely coherent much of the time and lies constantly about his family, his accomplishments and his past.
TL;DR
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An excerpt from a piece by Dan Gainor, that's very telling in my view.
Journalism is in chaos. It is an industry where only a tiny percentage of people dare hold different political opinions and more than 60% of journalists think the news business is going in the "wrong direction." Don’t take my word for it. Take theirs.
More than 1,600 journalists responded to a survey from Syracuse University’s Newhouse School of Public Communications and the results are damning. Only 3.4% of U.S. journalists claim to be Republicans, with another 36.4% saying they’re Democrats. That’s more than 10 times more Democrats than Republicans. Or at least the ones who will admit they are on the left.
More than half (51.7%) call themselves "independents" and another 8.5% "other." Journalists have been getting these survey questions for more than 50 years and they have grown savvier. Many carefully list themselves in those other categories to avoid being called biased. So, just keep that 3.4% number in mind. Out of all journalists.
Or let’s give the real number – 96.6% are not Republicans.
That’s how Russiagate and Russian collusion get rammed down the throats of the American public like the scandal really happened. (Hint: It didn’t.) That’s how they cover for a president who is barely coherent much of the time and lies constantly about his family, his accomplishments and his past.
Sigh...for a guy who "doesn't get his news from Fox", every article or talking head you reference is from that outlet. You know, the one that had to admit it was lying to it viewership knowingly.
Having a political opinion is natural for any person. Professionals can remove themselves from the story and do the work.
Still, no one has answered the question: is being adjudged, by a jury, a rapist disqualifying for Trump, and if not, why?
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If you think there is a shred of equivalency between these two candidates (and I'm not a Biden "fan") then you are detached from reality.
ok, you’ve almost convinced me. But before I follow, tell me what it is about you that demonstrates why I should listen to you tell me who to vote for. Are you really as smart as Hank Johnson?
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If you think there is a shred of equivalency between these two candidates (and I'm not a Biden "fan") then you are detached from reality.
There isn’t.
Biden is a globalist puppet.
Trump is an “America first” nationalist.
If those are the two choices? That’s all I will ever need to know.
None of the pejoratives you’ve flung at him have any basis in reality. That cinches it for me. Your unhinged derangement convinces me that there may be no other path.
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Sigh...for a guy who "doesn't get his news from Fox", every article or talking head you reference is from that outlet. You know, the one that had to admit it was lying to it viewership knowingly.
Having a political opinion is natural for any person. Professionals can remove themselves from the story and do the work.
Still, no one has answered the question: is being adjudged, by a jury, a rapist disqualifying for Trump, and if not, why?
Fake. Fucking. News.
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Detached. From. Fucking. Reality.
“The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape,’ ” Kaplan wrote.
He added: “Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/
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Detached. From. Fucking. Reality.
“The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape,’ ” Kaplan wrote.
He added: “Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/
You’re going to keep it up until you wind up getting raped, again.
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Detached. From. Fucking. Reality.
“The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape,’ ” Kaplan wrote.
He added: “Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/
Washington Post opinion.
Worthless as yesterday’s fish sandwich.
Do better.
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Quotes, attribution...fuck's sake this is why I gave up on you. You're a lost fucking cause. Sad, really.
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Quotes, attribution...fuck's sake this is why I gave up on you. You're a lost fucking cause. Sad, really.
Do better, meathead.
Quotes, attribution that equal an OPINION.
Believe what you want. I'll just rest here on the banking records of a proven criminal, the plethora of photos of his son doing drugs and raping underage girls, the diary of his daughter who provides a first person account in sickening detail of this man assaulting her as a child, the despicable desertion of American troops and assets in foreign countries.... and I could go on.
You sit over there clutching your pearls over a fraudulent accusation and a desperate witch hunt.
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Do better, meathead.
Quotes, attribution that equal an OPINION.
Believe what you want. I'll just rest here on the banking records of a proven criminal, the plethora of photos of his son doing drugs and raping underage girls, the diary of his daughter who provides a first person account in sickening detail of this man assaulting her as a child, the despicable desertion of American troops and assets in foreign countries.... and I could go on.
You sit over there clutching your pearls over a fraudulent accusation and a desperate witch hunt.
This. I am not going to join in on any rallies or marches in the name of Trump. However, the timing of shit being flung at him is always impeccable. Proven dishonesty of MSM where unsubstantiated rumors of Russian collusion drummed up by the Clinton campaign, and then trying to force it down the American public's collective ear holes as truth killed any credibility they had. It's The Boy who Cried Wolf.
Between the 2 candidates we are forced to accept as options, I'll take the dick head over the guy that forgot how to spell dick head. Unless a video surfaces of Trump getting his rape on, he is innocent until proven guilty. This is the American way.
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Sigh...for a guy who "doesn't get his news from Fox", every article or talking head you reference is from that outlet. You know, the one that had to admit it was lying to it viewership knowingly.
Having a political opinion is natural for any person. Professionals can remove themselves from the story and do the work.
Still, no one has answered the question: is being adjudged, by a jury, a rapist disqualifying for Trump, and if not, why?
I swore off all the cable "News" networks over a year ago. I'm talking on-air personalities who don't present actual news, only opinions, which are 100% biased, regardless which network you choose. I still look at their web page because that's different altogether. Yes, you still get the random opinion piece, but for the most part, it's like today:
One of the Royals having surgery
Colts owner found unresponsive
Iran bombed Pakistan
Boy fatally shoots dad
Girl who survived sex cult
As for Fox News, a network created solely to be the lone conservative voice in the media, yes, they knew they were pushing the election fraud narrative, and got their asses handed to them for it. Deservedly so. Problem is, networks like CNN, MSNBC, CBS, NBC and on and on...have no repercussions for, as the opinion piece put it, ramming Russiagate and Russian collusion down our throats, which was an outright, unmitigated lie, and threw this country into turmoil.
But, who is going to hold them accountable? When the overwhelming majority of the media is pushing the same narrative, and it's proven to be a complete lie, it's just a big, "Oh well, let's move on to something else. Hey, Trump didn't denounce white supremacy." Another lie.
The point being, when only 3.4% of 1,600 admit to being Republican, and over 10X that are Dems, you have a bias problem. If that's not the case, and you don't watch or read anything from Fox, tell me honestly, where was the last outlet you read anything painting conservatives in a positive light? It wasn't from any of those "independents."
As for Trump....Do...Not...Want.
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Between the 2 candidates we are forced to accept as options, I'll take the dick head over the guy that forgot how to spell dick head. Unless a video surfaces of Trump getting his rape on, he is innocent until proven guilty. This is the American way.
Fuck's sake. He's not just "a dick head." He's a walking felony. The video standard you're espousing isn't the way our legal system works. A jury heard the evidence and rendered a verdict. He is guilty.
There isn't a single shred of evidence of the "biden family crime syndicate" or you'd never get relief from the hard evidence on every news outlet. The GOP isn't interested in fact finding, or they'd let Hunter testify in public as he repeatedly offers to do so.
There IS, however, hard evidence that Trump took $8MM from China while sitting in the Oval Office, in flagrant violation of the emoluments clause (not to mention the goddamned bribery hotel he was running).
Problem is, networks like CNN, MSNBC, CBS, NBC and on and on...have no repercussions for, as the opinion piece put it, ramming Russiagate and Russian collusion down our throats, which was an outright, unmitigated lie, and threw this country into turmoil.
Not a lie at all. Substantiated with testimony and evidence. Y'all really have to broaden your information sources.
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This. I am not going to join in on any rallies or marches in the name of Trump. However, the timing of shit being flung at him is always impeccable. Proven dishonesty of MSM where unsubstantiated rumors of Russian collusion drummed up by the Clinton campaign, and then trying to force it down the American public's collective ear holes as truth killed any credibility they had. It's The Boy who Cried Wolf.
Between the 2 candidates we are forced to accept as options, I'll take the dick head over the guy that forgot how to spell dick head. Unless a video surfaces of Trump getting his rape on, he is innocent until proven guilty. This is the American way.
I saw him speak at an event in Florida. The person I saw there bore only a passing resemblance to the person the media portrays in the snippets they chose to provide. I've seen a lot of politicians speak over the years, and his was as good as any. Matched Reagan, quite honestly, and Reagan was one of the most effective orators in US history (doubt it? watch his speech after the Challenger explosion).
I'd be happy to attend a Biden "rally" if I was able to procure one of the 12 distantly-spaced six foot wide circles that his "crowds" flock to -- and if he could string together a dozen coherent sentences.
I'd encourage everyone to get involved. Go see Trump. Go see Biden (impossible). Go listen to Kamala jumble an impressive collection of words she doesn't understand to say less than nothing. Go watch Nimarata, or Ron, or Gavin, or anyone who's running so you can see for yourself what they're about.
But actually listen to what they say, evaluate their position relative to your own moral compass and beliefs, and then choose which of those best represents your beliefs and dreams for this country.
Or you can spout talking points from NPR, MSNBC, CNN, Fox, or some other controlled propaganda service and remain in the dark - where the ubiquitous they want you to remain.
Take a few minutes to research the Trusted News Initiative: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_News_Initiative Do a little more digging and discover that all "local news" is almost completely owned by a very small handful of companies, all of which regurgitate the same slanted talking points - in almost exactly the same verbiage - to guide the thinking of bleating sheep. You know, the ones possessed by Trump derangement.
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Fuck's sake. He's not just "a dick head." 1. He's a walking felony. The video standard you're espousing isn't the way our legal system works. A jury heard the evidence and rendered a verdict. He is guilty.
2. There isn't a single shred of evidence of the "biden family crime syndicate" or you'd never get relief from the hard evidence on every news outlet. The GOP isn't interested in fact finding, or they'd 3. let Hunter testify in public as he repeatedly offers to do so.
4. There IS, however, hard evidence that Trump took $8MM from China while sitting in the Oval Office, in flagrant violation of the emoluments clause (not to mention the goddamned bribery hotel he was running).
Not a lie at all. Substantiated with testimony and evidence. Y'all really have to broaden your information sources.
That has to be a record.
Four MSM lies spouted as fact in one post.
1. Absolute fucking lie
2. Ridiculously EGREGIOUS lie. So absolutely fucktarded it defies belief. No sane human being could express this particular lie with a straight face.
3. Another lie. Just a flat out load of horseshit.
4. LAUGHABLE! Completely made up in absolute desperation and the most pathetic attempt at obfuscation I've ever seen.
I have greatly misjudged your intelligence or vastly underestimated your gullibility. I never imagined you to be the biggest bleating sheep that has ever trod.
It's disgraceful, really. I didn't think this kind of brainwashing existed outside being strapped to a chair and having fingernails pulled out.
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Fuck's sake. He's not just "a dick head." He's a walking felony. The video standard you're espousing isn't the way our legal system works. A jury heard the evidence and rendered a verdict. He is guilty.
There isn't a single shred of evidence of the "biden family crime syndicate" or you'd never get relief from the hard evidence on every news outlet. The GOP isn't interested in fact finding, or they'd let Hunter testify in public as he repeatedly offers to do so.
There IS, however, hard evidence that Trump took $8MM from China while sitting in the Oval Office, in flagrant violation of the emoluments clause (not to mention the goddamned bribery hotel he was running).
Not a lie at all. Substantiated with testimony and evidence. Y'all really have to broaden your information sources.
Fuck sake, man. Robert Mueller would like a word with you.
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Fuck's sake. He's not just "a dick head." He's a walking felony. The video standard you're espousing isn't the way our legal system works. A jury heard the evidence and rendered a verdict. He is guilty.
There isn't a single shred of evidence of the "biden family crime syndicate" or you'd never get relief from the hard evidence on every news outlet. The GOP isn't interested in fact finding, or they'd let Hunter testify in public as he repeatedly offers to do so.
There IS, however, hard evidence that Trump took $8MM from China while sitting in the Oval Office, in flagrant violation of the emoluments clause (not to mention the goddamned bribery hotel he was running).
Not a lie at all. Substantiated with testimony and evidence. Y'all really have to broaden your information sources.
The video standard is answering the question of the thread for me, "What would it take?"
My goal with my personal political beliefs is to find common ground. Not to set out to prove others wrong, or chastise them for their beliefs/who they support. However, there is one side that is slinging shit at a disproportionate amount at the other. Lies (proven) have been used as justification in recent history. Please see that fact for what it is and understand why there is so much mistrust.
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Ron, or Gavin, or anyone who's running so you can see for yourself what they're about
Said I was gonna stay out of this one and I still am as far as the debate itself goes as I consider you and Wes both good guys and friends off this board....but the above is what (to me) this race should been this year. I have watched both a lot. It is NOT what we got though, for different reasons:
1. Joe's unwillingness to step aside for Gavin as well as Gavin not looking like he wanted to push the issue on that (although he did debate Ron on TV) either, risking having Kamala challenge for it in the event of a Dem nominee vacuum. The DNC had a tricky hand to play there.
2. Ron having an unfortunate campaign full of grifters who made some bank taking advantage of him, before him realizing this and it being too late. And not that it matters on substance but O'Reilly is right in that Ron can come off at times as boring and vanilla. Primary voters care about that in 2024.
Agree with them, or not. Like them, or not. Not the point. When I saw them debate, what I saw was two younger, smart guys, that had energy and ideas for their respective parties. Not a ton of rhetoric. Mutual respect. It was refreshing to say the least.
The fact that the primary bases of both parties and BIG NEWS have (or will have) decided for an entire country - that 2 Octogenarians are the best we have to offer for running the free world speaks volume to the amount of bread and circuses, and tribalism taking place now. That saddens me probably more than any one trait of either individual.
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Guys, guys, what’s with the name calling?
Are we sure that Wes is a democrat? I don’t remember if he clearly stated that. I thought he could be just all fucked up in the head. Snags isn’t a democrat and he’s fucked up in the head.
If he’s for sure a democrat, then fuck ‘em and feed him fish heads. Sawed off motherfucker.
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Guys, guys, what’s with the name calling?
Are we sure that Wes is a democrat? I don’t remember if he clearly stated that. I thought he could be just all fucked up in the head. Snags isn’t a democrat and he’s fucked up in the head.
If he’s for sure a democrat, then fuck ‘em and feed him fish heads. Sawed off motherfucker.
Wes is just a smooth mfer who likes the pussssayy. I thought you knew?
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That has to be a record.
Four MSM lies spouted as fact in one post.
1. Absolute fucking lie
2. Ridiculously EGREGIOUS lie. So absolutely fucktarded it defies belief. No sane human being could express this particular lie with a straight face.
3. Another lie. Just a flat out load of horseshit.
4. LAUGHABLE! Completely made up in absolute desperation and the most pathetic attempt at obfuscation I've ever seen.
I have greatly misjudged your intelligence or vastly underestimated your gullibility. I never imagined you to be the biggest bleating sheep that has ever trod.
It's disgraceful, really. I didn't think this kind of brainwashing existed outside being strapped to a chair and having fingernails pulled out.
1. 91 felony charges. https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-indictment-total-charges-counts-2023-8
2. The GOP's own report found no evidence of wrongdoing. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/10/us/politics/hunter-biden-house-republicans-report.html
3. He's offered twice, now. He even showed up to the hearing proceeding and the GOP ran like cockroaches from him. https://apnews.com/article/hunter-biden-congress-republicans-investigation-subpoena-55f869ddca927941ee3b1659bed2214c
4. At least $7.8MM. https://www.axios.com/2024/01/04/report-trump-received-at-least-78m-in-foreign-payments-during-presidency
Again, you are detached from the real world.
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Fuck sake, man. Robert Mueller would like a word with you.
You, uh...you know that the Mueller report found that all the Russian interference was in service of Trump, right? And that the entire Trump administration engaged in obstruction during the investigation.
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The video standard is answering the question of the thread for me, "What would it take?"
This kind of gets to what I'm asking. You're setting a standard higher than the judicial standard. Where does it end? What is the rule that he isn't allowed to break?
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1. 91 felony charges. https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-indictment-total-charges-counts-2023-8
2. The GOP's own report found no evidence of wrongdoing. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/10/us/politics/hunter-biden-house-republicans-report.html
3. He's offered twice, now. He even showed up to the hearing proceeding and the GOP ran like cockroaches from him. https://apnews.com/article/hunter-biden-congress-republicans-investigation-subpoena-55f869ddca927941ee3b1659bed2214c
4. At least $7.8MM. https://www.axios.com/2024/01/04/report-trump-received-at-least-78m-in-foreign-payments-during-presidency
Again, you are detached from the real world.
1. “Charges” mean nothing. You know that. Look who’s doing it. This administration has weaponized the court system in a manner typically seen only in banana republics.
2. NY times. No thank you. There are no longer democrats or republicans. There’s only one globalist party. To suggest they found “no wrongdoing” is, however, utterly absurd. Evidence is there and in droves for anyone with an open mind and the least amount of curiosity.
3. Complete fabrication of what happened. You’ve swallowed the MSM spin hook, line and sinker.
4. “Report” from a left-owned rag. Anyone with a scintilla of discernment can see through this. It’s obfuscation. The Marxist playbook. Accuse the opposition of doing what you’re doing. Classic misdirection. Like a magician. Look over here! while the real action is somewhere else. You know this too.
You’re never going to change my mind. I’m not going to make you realize how wrong you are.
There’s no point in continuing to engage you. This is America. I think you’ve forgotten that in your blind effort to support this illegally installed globalist regime and its Christian-hating, abomination-loving policies. You’re entitled to hold whatever opinion you want - as misguided, mal-informed, and detrimental as it may be.
You have the right to be wrong.
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This kind of gets to what I'm asking. You're setting a standard higher than the judicial standard. Where does it end? What is the rule that he isn't allowed to break?
Let’s flip the script.
To what depths would this country have to sink before you’d admit that this current administration and the policies it supports are destroying the country?
I think we could pull the plug on a Trump easily if some didn’t feel as if he was the only thing standing against a complete moral and economic collapse.
What would it take? Haven’t you seen enough Democratic failure in your life? Atlanta. Detroit. California. Michigan. Minnesota….it doesn’t work. When you can accept that? Then we’ve got something.
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You, uh...you know that the Mueller report found that all the Russian interference was in service of Trump, right? And that the entire Trump administration engaged in obstruction during the investigation.
There was no GD Russian interference. The only two people on the planet still barking this are you and Hillary. Even Schumer and Pelosi gave up the scam. FFS!!
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Now, you two kiss and make up. Or rub tips if thats your thing.
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Now, you two kiss and make up. Or rub tips if thats your thing.
Ain't no fight. Ain't even mad. I just want him to think critically for a change and stop spouting debunked talking points.
He mistakenly thinks I'm some huge MAGA hat wearing, Trumper to the core. All I'm really looking for is the best person to put the brakes on the headlong slide to hell we're experiencing as the globalists drive us to the brink of extinction.
I don't see another viable option. I'll support whoever I think has the best chance to drive the current administration and its lackeys out of power.
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This kind of gets to what I'm asking. You're setting a standard higher than the judicial standard. Where does it end? What is the rule that he isn't allowed to break?
Again, the timing is impeccable. They're pursuing him for some shit that allegedly happened in the mid 90's (should've been pursued then, in the early 2000's even). How convenient that it is coming to light when politics are involved, 3 years after he was elected the first go.
The perception of guilt was a complementary commodity with the accusation. It stinks of Kangaroo Court as we approach another election cycle. The relentless attacks on him further embolden his base. Democrats would be wise to lay off and try beating him on the merits of policy. As Snags said, it will be a FAFO come November.
What it would take for me? Viable opposition. I am not in the Trump camp, but he will get my vote because what we have now has made the quality of life significantly worse, on top of getting us involved in more wars. Y'all should have propped up Robert F Kennedy, or someone in that mold that is more towards the center. It infuriates me that democrats march in-step on every single issue. They used to be the party of individual thought. What the fuck happened?
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Again, the timing is impeccable. They're pursuing him for some shit that allegedly happened in the mid 90's (should've been pursued then, in the early 2000's even). How convenient that it is coming to light when politics are involved, 3 years after he was elected the first go.
The perception of guilt was a complementary commodity with the accusation. It stinks of Kangaroo Court as we approach another election cycle. The relentless attacks on him further embolden his base. Democrats would be wise to lay off and try beating him on the merits of policy. As Snags said, it will be a FAFO come November.
What it would take for me? Viable opposition. I am not in the Trump camp, but he will get my vote because what we have now has made the quality of life significantly worse, on top of getting us involved in more wars. Y'all should have propped up Robert F Kennedy, or someone in that mold that is more towards the center. It infuriates me that democrats march in-step on every single issue. They used to be the party of individual thought. What the fuck happened?
You know the felony charges are all related to his time as president and his actions in the wake of losing, right?
The defamation/rape case/business fraud is old material, but it's a pimple on the ass of his real problems.
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You know the felony charges are all related to his time as president and his actions in the wake of losing, right?
The defamation/rape case/business fraud is old material, but it's a pimple on the ass of his real problems.
I am aware. I am of the opinion that they are being pursued so restlessly in hopes that he is disqualified from running in 2024. Not in the honest pursuit of justice, because if that were the case, there wouldn't be such a double-standard. There would be more self-reflection before casting any stones & culling out bad apples within.
I am with the Colonel. This 2-party system is outdated and is causing too much division.
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Again, the timing is impeccable. They're pursuing him for some shit that allegedly happened in the mid 90's (should've been pursued then, in the early 2000's even). How convenient that it is coming to light when politics are involved, 3 years after he was elected the first go.
The perception of guilt was a complementary commodity with the accusation. It stinks of Kangaroo Court as we approach another election cycle. The relentless attacks on him further embolden his base. Democrats would be wise to lay off and try beating him on the merits of policy. As Snags said, it will be a FAFO come November.
What it would take for me? Viable opposition. I am not in the Trump camp, but he will get my vote because what we have now has made the quality of life significantly worse, on top of getting us involved in more wars. Y'all should have propped up Robert F Kennedy, or someone in that mold that is more towards the center. It infuriates me that democrats march in-step on every single issue. They used to be the party of individual thought. What the fuck happened?
Look around you, Ellen! We're at the threshold of hell.
They can't beat Trump on policy. Every single measurable statistic as it relates to quality of life, economics, domestic policy, immigration, foreign policy... anything you can think of was better before Biden.
What the fuck happened? You really want to know? Watergate. Journalism shifted from reporting the news to advocating and on to creating and crusading. The democrats recognized this and in the years since 1972 have become quite good at weaponizing it.
Seriously, do some research into the TNI. Check out Gray Media. You really think WBRC-TV is your local Birmingham News Station? Nope. Same company owns Fox10TV in Mobile, WSFA in Montgomery, News4 in the Wiregrass. And four stations in Mississippi, seven in Louisiana, six in Georgia, four in Florida.... In fact, they own stations in the largest media market in all but five or six states. They're one of a handful of conglomerates that own virutally EVERY station in every market in the country. Nexstar is the biggest. They own four stations in Alabama.
Every single one of them takes their marching orders from the TNI, which is controlled by democrats and globalists. That's why you will see anchors at a station in Provo Utah use the exact same wording and phrases to discuss a topic as you do the anchors at a station in Dothan Alabama. And every one of those mirrored reports are relentlessly anti-Christian, anti-nationalism, pro-globalism, pro-DEI -- and by proxy anti-Trump. People are waking up to this. We are being fed a steady diet of chicken shit and being told by our "local" news that it's delicious chicken salad. The horrific failures of Biden and his puppet masters, the epic disasters that are being soft-pedaled in the media while the attacks on Trump and the denigration of his supporters as "rubes" or worse? Even the stupid people -- most of them -- can smell that bullshit.
THAT'S what happened. Watergate gave them the power and impetus, and the pattern. If two fairly dumb newspaper guys can take down an entire presidency, what could a fully harnessed media do? Control the media, control the narrative. THAT, my friend, is the existential threat to 'democracy'
The TNI is currently WORSE, in my opinion, than Pravda, worse than People's Daily. It's a leftist, globalist propaganda machine. Please, if this thread does nothing else, do some research. Check into Mockingbird - the daily dump of talking points filtered from the TNI to all the outlets.
Fox News? Controlled opposition. Never were conservative, Pretend to be, so there's the perception of fairness. Just as fraudulent and in on the scam as the rest.
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You know the felony charges are all related to his time as president and his actions in the wake of losing, right?
The defamation/rape case/business fraud is old material, but it's a pimple on the ass of his real problems.
You know there was no "insurrection" and that his true actions were in the spirit of reconciliation and moving forward, don't you? Insurrections don't have FBI plants front and center urging the crowd forward. Insurrections don't have people following roped pathways and staying on the carpet.
Surely you're intelligent enough to see what was happening when the demoncratic talking points beginning about 90-days prior to the election began to - in unison - express fears of a coming insurrection when nothing the President did before or after suggested any such event? You can't be oblivious enough to be blind to the fact that they were sowing the seeds for the event THEY planned, THEY encouraged, THEY fomented and by which THEY hoped to use as a bludgeon against his supporters.... can you? Seriously?
There was no insurrection. I have no doubt Trump was pissed off at the blatant and obvious scamming that went on in places where phantom water leaks, boarded up windows, and video evidence of massive, fraudulent ballot dumps tipped the election -- almost certainly illegally. I agree with his request of Pence to delay certification until audits could be done. But Pence was a stooge, hoping to salvage his own political ambitions by joining in with the uniparty.
BUT... At no point do I believe - nor has any valid evidence been presented that indicates in any way -- that Trump had any plans to try to stay in power. He's an American, first and foremost. For that reason alone, he wouldn't have - and didn't - do what he's being accused of.
Educate yourself. Look past what you're being fed. Please.
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At this point, Trump is the only one who can fight off the evil left. If you are a democrat, you are my enemy. You have nothing in common with me other than stealing my oxygen. I hope
Every democrat feels Thai administrations pain trifold. I have no compromise left.
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Javier Milei describes democrats plan.
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I am aware. I am of the opinion that they are being pursued so restlessly in hopes that he is disqualified from running in 2024. Not in the honest pursuit of justice, because if that were the case, there wouldn't be such a double-standard. There would be more self-reflection before casting any stones & culling out bad apples within.
I am with the Colonel. This 2-party system is outdated and is causing too much division.
They're being pursued because he broke the law, the president is not above the law and he was/is trying to circumvent our democratic processes.
As to "no insurrection", you absolutely have to live in la la land to deny the reality of the video evidence of that day.
As to the ramblings about metrics, nearly every major indicator is orders of magnitude better under Biden: inflation, jobs...name it.
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“I am here to tell you that the western world is in danger . . . because those who are supposed to defend the values of the west have been co-opted by a vision of the world that inexorably leads to socialism, and therefore to poverty,” Milei told an audience in Davos on Wednesday.
Javier Milei describes democrats plan.
That motherfucker is a dangerous loon. Of course you're carrying his water.
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He’s not wrong. I see you can’t refute his claims. Anyone with half a brain can see what he said is 100% correct.
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They're being pursued because he broke the law, the president is not above the law and he was/is trying to circumvent our democratic processes.
As to "no insurrection", you absolutely have to live in la la land to deny the reality of the video evidence of that day.
As to the ramblings about metrics, nearly every major indicator is orders of magnitude better under Biden: inflation, jobs...name it.
If you truly believe what you just wrote? There is no hope for you. None.
I’m dismayed.
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1. 91 felony charges. https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-indictment-total-charges-counts-2023-8
2. The GOP's own report found no evidence of wrongdoing. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/10/us/politics/hunter-biden-house-republicans-report.html
3. He's offered twice, now. He even showed up to the hearing proceeding and the GOP ran like cockroaches from him. https://apnews.com/article/hunter-biden-congress-republicans-investigation-subpoena-55f869ddca927941ee3b1659bed2214c
4. At least $7.8MM. https://www.axios.com/2024/01/04/report-trump-received-at-least-78m-in-foreign-payments-during-presidency
Again, you are detached from the real world.
The fact that people actually believe all of this horseshit is exactly why the telephone scammer business is booming. There is a literal feast of fucking idiots out there for them to dine on. It has little to do with intellect. One can be educated and be an dumbass.
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If you truly believe what you just wrote? There is no hope for you. None.
I’m dismayed.
You can’t pretend this level of faggotrey.
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Hey, CCT, don't mean to alarm you, but I think your warn meter got spiked.
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They're being pursued because he broke the law, the president is not above the law and he was/is trying to circumvent our democratic processes.
I completely agree that nobody is above the law. I am not stating this as a "what-aboutism", but it leads me to think of Hillary bleaching documents so that they couldn't be submitted into evidence. Did you advocate for her being prosecuted for willfully interfering with an investigation back then, or did you rush to her defense and chalk it up to a witch hunt? There's a severe double-standard here that needs to be realized.
Saying our economy is better now is a mind-fuck of epic proportions when the negative affects are being lived by all of us when we hit up the grocery store, the gas pumps, etc. The housing market is on the cusp of collapsing again. This is 4 years into his Presidency, so it can't be rationally blamed on the last guy.
P.S. - I still owe you a beer
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I completely agree that nobody is above the law. I am not stating this as a "what-aboutism", but it leads me to think of Hillary bleaching documents so that they couldn't be submitted into evidence. Did you advocate for her being prosecuted for willfully interfering with an investigation back then, or did you rush to her defense and chalk it up to a witch hunt? There's a severe double-standard here that needs to be realized.
Saying our economy is better now is a mind-fuck of epic proportions when the negative affects are being lived by all of us when we hit up the grocery store, the gas pumps, etc. The housing market is on the cusp of collapsing again. This is 4 years into his Presidency, so it can't be rationally blamed on the last guy.
P.S. - I still owe you a beer
Yes, prosecute anyone that breaks the law regardless of political affiliation. This stuff isn't hard.
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Yes, prosecute anyone that breaks the law regardless of political affiliation. This stuff isn't hard.
Thank you.
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Yes, prosecute anyone that breaks the law regardless of political affiliation. This stuff isn't hard.
Let's start with Hunter, Joe, his brothers, the first couch, bill and hillary then. Start there.
Then we can continue to talk
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Let's start with Hunter, Joe, his brothers, the first couch, bill and hillary then. Start there.
Then we can continue to talk
His ilk are only concerned when it is Trump. Hypocrisy at it’s finest.
And that’s why Trump is back.
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His ilk are only concerned when it is Trump. Hypocrisy at it’s finest.
And that’s why Trump is back.
Trump is back? If I had known that I would not have been arguing on the internet.
Sorry about calling you a dumb faggot, Wes. It was an accident.
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I swore off all the cable "News" networks over a year ago. I'm talking on-air personalities who don't present actual news, only opinions, which are 100% biased, regardless which network you choose. I still look at their web page because that's different altogether. Yes, you still get the random opinion piece, but for the most part, it's like today:
One of the Royals having surgery
Colts owner found unresponsive
Iran bombed Pakistan
Boy fatally shoots dad
Girl who survived sex cult
As for Fox News, a network created solely to be the lone conservative voice in the media, yes, they knew they were pushing the election fraud narrative, and got their asses handed to them for it. Deservedly so. Problem is, networks like CNN, MSNBC, CBS, NBC and on and on...have no repercussions for, as the opinion piece put it, ramming Russiagate and Russian collusion down our throats, which was an outright, unmitigated lie, and threw this country into turmoil.
But, who is going to hold them accountable? When the overwhelming majority of the media is pushing the same narrative, and it's proven to be a complete lie, it's just a big, "Oh well, let's move on to something else. Hey, Trump didn't denounce white supremacy." Another lie.
The point being, when only 3.4% of 1,600 admit to being Republican, and over 10X that are Dems, you have a bias problem. If that's not the case, and you don't watch or read anything from Fox, tell me honestly, where was the last outlet you read anything painting conservatives in a positive light? It wasn't from any of those "independents."
As for Trump....Do...Not...Want.
No election fraud? You have to be kidding, right? 😂 You are serious?
And no one cares if you want Trump or not. You’re getting him. You and Wesley. Let him sit in your lap on election night and you can watch the results together. Hopefully, Biden won’t go up by 2 suitcases in the middle of the night after Trump sets the record for the highest number of votes.
Another thing, even though Trump is older than you, not by very much but older, he’d slap the fuck out of you and then stomp a mud hole in your pussified ass. You and Wesley at the same time. I mean knock you the fuck out!
https://youtu.be/a9z8F4fgj6Q?si=4XPEltjStzhBRFIu
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It is odd that the left continues to call the protest on Jan 6th an insurrection, yet not one person has been convicted of insurrection.
The goal is not to convict Trump, but to slow him down or make enough of a fuss that he won't be elected.
Good American people see this and are reacting accordingly. The rest are still in a dark room wanking to the Mueller report.
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This is the shit I'm talking about. This motherfucker wants to be above the law. That is unacceptable.
https://twitter.com/JonLemire/status/1747976714053968191
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This is the shit I'm talking about. This motherfucker wants to be above the law. That is unacceptable.
https://twitter.com/JonLemire/status/1747976714053968191
Simple question again.
What will it take for you to admit that this administration and its cronies - Hillary, Bill, Obama, etc. - are corrupt?
How far will the country have to sink before you finally accept that?
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This is the shit I'm talking about. This motherfucker wants to be above the law. That is unacceptable.
https://twitter.com/JonLemire/status/1747976714053968191
This is small minded. Wait…
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I completely agree that nobody is above the law.
Circling back because Trump's entire argument against his espionage charges is that he is immune from prosecution.
Have we passed a rubicon yet?
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Circling back because Trump's entire argument against his espionage charges is that he is immune from prosecution.
Have we passed a rubicon yet?
Fuck that fucker.
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Circling back because Trump's entire argument against his espionage charges is that he is immune from prosecution.
Have we passed a rubicon yet?
Are you shitting me? No.
Biden is a grifter pedophile. Nothing is worse than him and the people running him. Literally nothing.
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Are you shitting me? No.
Biden is a grifter pedophile. Nothing is worse than him and the people running him. Literally nothing.
We dodged worse than Biden in 2016, in fairness to the discussion.
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Circling back because Trump's entire argument against his espionage charges is that he is immune from prosecution.
Have we passed a rubicon yet?
I bet you could pass a rubic’s cube with ease.
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We dodged worse than Biden in 2016, in fairness to the discussion.
The she demon is one of the ones running him.
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Are you shitting me? No.
Biden is a grifter pedophile. Nothing is worse than him and the people running him. Literally nothing.
Grifter...it's always projection. Your favorite grifter just coopted the RNC for his own piggy bank and is selling gold sneakers and Trump bibles. Haaaaaaaaaaaa...
I was just pointing out that under Trump's theory, Joe could just call off the federal election. Suspend habeas corpus, jail all the opposition and IT'S ALL TOTALLY LEGAL!
That's what your guy is pushing.
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Grifter...it's always projection. Your favorite grifter just coopted the RNC for his own piggy bank and is selling gold sneakers and Trump bibles. Haaaaaaaaaaaa...
I was just pointing out that under Trump's theory, Joe could just call off the federal election. Suspend habeas corpus, jail all the opposition and IT'S ALL TOTALLY LEGAL!
That's what your guy is pushing.
No. It’s not at all. You are so blinded by hate you can’t see anything but “orange man bad”
Joe has always been a grifter. Nothing new.
The fact is I fundamentally disagree with everything he, Hillary, Obama and others that group supports. Socially, economically, foreign, domestic… every single splinter of every single plank of their platform disgusts me. There is not a single speck of common ground.
In my entire life I’ve never felt that way. There were things I supported with Carter. Bill Clinton (not his hell-hound wife), Mondale, Dukakis, Nixon, even old school gore. Not now.
I will support anyone or anything that has a chance to drive them out of power. That was my position in 2016. In 2020 - the most shockingly egregious election fraud in the history of this country. It’s the same today.
I want them gone. That’s it. You’ve always conflated that with some adoration of Trump. You’ve always (no surprise here) been wrong.
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you can’t see anything but “orange man bad”
followed by:
I will support anyone or anything that has a chance to drive them out of power. That was my position in 2016. In 2020 - the most shockingly egregious election fraud in the history of this country. It’s the same today.
Is just so fucking delicious.
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followed by:
Is just so fucking delicious.
There’s no commonality.
I hate their politics and policies. I hate what Hillary supports and represents.
You hate the man.
Not the same dude. You’ve never figured that out.
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There’s no commonality.
I hate their politics and policies. I hate what Hillary supports and represents.
You hate the man.
Not the same dude. You’ve never figured that out.
And he and his ilk never will figure it out.
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Orange asshole can't even stay awake at his own criminal trial. This is going well!
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Orange asshole can't even stay awake at his own criminal trial. This is going well!
You have become a clown.
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... And now he's bitching about the number of preemptory strikes in voir dire. The number that is written into NY law.
Just a complete fucking moron.
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... And now he's bitching about the number of preemptory strikes in voir dire. The number that is written into NY law.
Just a complete fucking moron.
Speaking of voir dire, did you ever watch Bull? I thought the premise was good even if the show was less than stellar. I always enjoyed the voir dire sequences.
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Just a complete fucking moron.
Don't be so hard on yourself. You're not f***ing.
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Speaking of voir dire, did you ever watch Bull? I thought the premise was good even if the show was less than stellar. I always enjoyed the voir dire sequences.
Big fan of Dr. Phil huh?
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This MF co-opted the entire RNC and is now demanding contribution kickbacks from downstream Rs.
Jesus Christ, how can anyone who claims to be a non-Trump Republican still support this party? They are sold the FUCK OUT.
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Meanwhile, at two separate functions yesterday, our Pedophile in Chief, told audiences that his Uncle was shot down in WW2 but was never found because there were cannibals in the area. Holy shit!
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This MF co-opted the entire RNC and is now demanding contribution kickbacks from downstream Rs.
Jesus Christ, how can anyone who claims to be a non-Trump Republican still support this party? They are sold the FUCK OUT.
I counter with how can anyone support anything -- any one single thing -- the democratic party or anyone associated with it does?
Sold out? C'mon Wes. Look in the mirror. I know you don't want to see it, but it's all there. Incontrivertible.
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This MF co-opted the entire RNC and is now demanding contribution kickbacks from downstream Rs.
Jesus Christ, how can anyone who claims to be a non-Trump Republican still support this party? They are sold the FUCK OUT.
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Meanwhile, at two separate functions yesterday, our Pedophile in Chief, told audiences that his Uncle was shot down in WW2 but was never found because there were cannibals in the area. Holy shit!
Clutch the pearls!
I'll be over here. Watching the criminal be tried for crimes.
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Clutch the pearls!
I'll be over here. Watching the criminal be tried for crimes.
Who are you voting for in the upcoming presidential election?
If you’re consistent with your convictions, I’d assume it would be Robert F’n A Kennedy in this cycle. He seems to have the best character/integrity of the bunch… and he’s mostly liberal. But the good, classical kind.
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Clutch the pearls!
I'll be over here. Watching the criminal be tried for crimes.
Lawyer 101.
Not criminal.
Meanwhile the real criminals continue to cavort in Washington. You should be leading the charge to bring them down.
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Who are you voting for in the upcoming presidential election?
If you’re consistent with your convictions, I’d assume it would be Robert F’n A Kennedy in this cycle. He seems to have the best character/integrity of the bunch… and he’s mostly liberal. But the good, classical kind.
Kennedy is a conspiracy-endorsing whack job.
Given our options, it has to be Biden, unfortunately.
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Kennedy is a conspiracy-endorsing whack job.
Given our options, it has to be Biden, unfortunately.
You've bypassed clown and headed straight to fool. I pity you and am grateful you live in a state where your vote is a squirt of squirrel pee in the wind.
I defy you to name one single policy or position this administration endorses that is positive for America. I know you cannot.
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Kennedy is a conspiracy-endorsing whack job.
Given our options, it has to be Biden, unfortunately.
What do you make of his alleged shady business dealings, extreme top cover for his crackhead son, and accusations of molestation by his own daughter?
Accusations = Guilt these days, correct?
I disagree with your above premise, respectfully.
A man with a few conspiracy theories with no accusations of such things against him is a better candidate than an old man who’s brain barely functions and that has a lot of smoke around him doing criminal things in his uneventful/unimpressive history in politics.
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What do you make of his alleged shady business dealings
The dipshit maga caucus has been chasing this garbage for a couple of years now. So far: bupkus. There's not a shred of evidence of wrongdoing.
extreme top cover for his crackhead son
Not sure what "extreme top cover" is, but I'm not going to fault someone for doing what they can (within the bounds of the law) to help/protect their kid, addict or not.
, and accusations of molestation by his own daughter?
This is a new one on me.
Accusations = Guilt these days, correct?
I disagree with your above premise, respectfully.
A man with a few conspiracy theories with no accusations of such things against him is a better candidate than an old man who’s brain barely functions and that has a lot of smoke around him doing criminal things in his uneventful/unimpressive history in politics.
Obvs the disagreeing with respect to all this.
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The dipshit maga caucus has been chasing this garbage for a couple of years now. So far: bupkus. There's not a shred of evidence of wrongdoing.
Yet, you were on board the Russian collusion train, which was proven as false. I'll never forget the debate where Hillary brought that up and he looked legitimately confused about it. Dirty politics.
Not a Trump fan, but some consistency would be pretty righteous here.
Not sure what "extreme top cover" is, but I'm not going to fault someone for doing what they can (within the bounds of the law) to help/protect their kid, addict or not.
I don't fault a parent protecting their child either, within the bounds of the law. The issues with the laptop & favorable conditions/policies with Bank of America are worth taking a look at as a starting point.
This is a new one on me.
The diary has not been proven or disproven, but the details of the diary were sent with legitimate tax documents. Smoke & fire and all that.
Obvs the disagreeing with respect to all this.
I think you are incredibly intelligent. However, when it comes to politics, I don't understand your lock-step nature with everything perpetuated by media propaganda. Can you give me policies from the DNC that you disagree with? Any of 'em?
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Yet, you were on board the Russian collusion train, which was proven as false.
No. It was not. I keep hearing that around here, but it is patently untrue.
I don't fault a parent protecting their child either, within the bounds of the law. The issues with the laptop & favorable conditions/policies with Bank of America are worth taking a look at as a starting point.
The laptop business has such a fucking flawed foundation as to be nonsense. The chain of custody is beyond fucked. As to the favorable banking...what do you think margie and her drooling cohorts have been digging at the past two years? They have found...nothing. Not a single fucking thing.
The diary has not been proven or disproven, but the details of the diary were sent with legitimate tax documents. Smoke & fire and all that.
Eh...if there was a story here, the Rs would be all over it, 24/7. I'm open to hearing more, but I'm going in skeptical.
I think you are incredibly intelligent. However, when it comes to politics, I don't understand your lock-step nature with everything perpetuated by media propaganda. Can you give me policies from the DNC that you disagree with? Any of 'em?
At this point it's an existential question of whether our attempt at democracy lives or dies. It's an unfortunate binary choice. I dislike much of our foreign policy. I think the DNC is too mealy mouthed when they could take stronger positions that are demonstrably popular. That said, a second Trump term would be disastrous in ways that I don't think people are willing to admit are possible.
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None of it matters. Biden started the beginning of the end by opening the borders and allowing an estimated 10+ million illegal immigrants to enter the country. A total greater than the population of 40 states. From rampant fentanyl and drug deaths, to child trafficking, to multiple murders, (Laken Riley says Hi, Joe) savage beating of New York cops, and on and on and on. It's just getting started, and the estimates of actual terrorists who have crossed our borders is staggering. A lot of people are going to die.
Joe Biden and Alejandro Mayorkas, along with twit brained, Karine Jean-Pierre told us for 3 years the border was secure. Now, in a campaign year, Biden proclaims the border would be secure, "If it weren't for MAGA Republicans".
This, more than anything else, is why he needs to be in jail. He won't, but it will be his greatest legacy. It's on him.
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None of it matters. Biden started the beginning of the end by opening the borders and allowing an estimated 10+ million illegal immigrants to enter the country. A total greater than the population of 40 states. From rampant fentanyl and drug deaths, to child trafficking, to multiple murders, (Laken Riley says Hi, Joe) savage beating of New York cops, and on and on and on. It's just getting started, and the estimates of actual terrorists who have crossed our borders is staggering. A lot of people are going to die.
Joe Biden and Alejandro Mayorkas, along with twit brained, Karine Jean-Pierre told us for 3 years the border was secure. Now, in a campaign year, Biden proclaims the border would be secure, "If it weren't for MAGA Republicans".
This, more than anything else, is why he needs to be in jail. He won't, but it will be his greatest legacy. It's on him.
There was a bipartisan border security bill...Trump sabotaged it for political points. This isn't a Biden problem.
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There was a bipartisan border security bill...Trump sabotaged it for political points. This isn't a Biden problem.
Nope. Can't spin this one. 100% on Biden. The bill was shot sown in part, because it didn't address the immigration problem, other than limiting the number of illegals who could come every year. And that number is in the millions. News flash. That bill was this year. The 10 million are already here and the damage and deaths are just beginning. This is Joe's and Joe's alone, and it will turn out to be the worst crisis this country has ever faced.
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No. It was not. I keep hearing that around here, but it is patently untrue.
From that shining beacon in the night of unbiased reporting, NPR
Mueller Report Doesn't Find Russian Collusion, But Can't 'Exonerate' On Obstruction
MARCH 24, 201910:52 AM ET
By
Carrie Johnson
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Philip Ewing
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Jessica Taylor
Special counsel Robert Mueller did not find evidence that President Trump's campaign conspired with Russia to influence the 2016 election, according to a summary of findings submitted to Congress by Attorney General William Barr.
"The Special Counsel's investigation did not find that the Trump campaign or anyone associated with it conspired or coordinated with Russia in its efforts to influence the 2016 U.S. presidential election," Barr wrote in a letter to leaders of the House and Senate judiciary committees on Sunday afternoon.
That was despite "multiple offers from Russian-affiliated individuals to assist the Trump campaign," he wrote.
However, Mueller's investigation did not take a position on whether Trump obstructed justice by trying to frustrate the ongoing investigation.
"[W]hile this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him," Barr quotes from Mueller's report.
The attorney general wrote that he and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein had concluded that the findings of the special counsel were "not sufficient to establish that the president committed an obstruction-of-justice offense."
The Justice Department leaders reached that conclusion, Barr wrote, without regard to the "constitutional considerations" that surround whether the department can seek an indictment of a sitting president.
White House exults
Trump talked with reporters as he prepared to return from Florida to the White House, calling the investigation "an illegal take-down that failed."
"It was just announced there was no collusion with Russia, the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. There was no obstruction, and it was a complete and total exoneration," Trump said before boarding Air Force One. "It's a shame our country had to go through this, and to be honest, it's a shame your president had to go through this."
Trump also said: "Hopefully someone's going to look at the other side," seeming to revive suggestions that he wanted an investigation into his 2016 Democratic opponent Hillary Clinton, which he has called for several times.
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America knows that the #BidenBorderCrisis is real. We just don’t know how many. Estimates are 8-10 million since he took office.
And they anre not all roofers.
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From that shining beacon in the night of unbiased reporting, NPR
Mueller Report Doesn't Find Russian Collusion, But Can't 'Exonerate' On Obstruction
MARCH 24, 201910:52 AM ET
By
Carrie Johnson
,
Philip Ewing
,
Jessica Taylor
Special counsel Robert Mueller did not find evidence that President Trump's campaign conspired with Russia to influence the 2016 election, according to a summary of findings submitted to Congress by Attorney General William Barr.
"The Special Counsel's investigation did not find that the Trump campaign or anyone associated with it conspired or coordinated with Russia in its efforts to influence the 2016 U.S. presidential election," Barr wrote in a letter to leaders of the House and Senate judiciary committees on Sunday afternoon.
That was despite "multiple offers from Russian-affiliated individuals to assist the Trump campaign," he wrote.
However, Mueller's investigation did not take a position on whether Trump obstructed justice by trying to frustrate the ongoing investigation.
"[W]hile this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him," Barr quotes from Mueller's report.
The attorney general wrote that he and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein had concluded that the findings of the special counsel were "not sufficient to establish that the president committed an obstruction-of-justice offense."
The Justice Department leaders reached that conclusion, Barr wrote, without regard to the "constitutional considerations" that surround whether the department can seek an indictment of a sitting president.
White House exults
Trump talked with reporters as he prepared to return from Florida to the White House, calling the investigation "an illegal take-down that failed."
"It was just announced there was no collusion with Russia, the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. There was no obstruction, and it was a complete and total exoneration," Trump said before boarding Air Force One. "It's a shame our country had to go through this, and to be honest, it's a shame your president had to go through this."
Trump also said: "Hopefully someone's going to look at the other side," seeming to revive suggestions that he wanted an investigation into his 2016 Democratic opponent Hillary Clinton, which he has called for several times.
Asked if he found evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and Moscow, Mueller said his team avoided the term “collusion” because it had no legal application. Mueller acknowledged there was insufficient evidence to establish a criminal conspiracy between the Trump campaign and the Russians, but he said it would not be accurate to suggest there was no evidence of coordination....
Under oath, Mueller said:
The Russians had led a campaign to swing the 2016 election in Trump’s favor and committed crimes to achieve that goal; The Trump campaign was receptive to help from the Russians; Donald Trump Jr said he would “love” to receive dirt on Hillary Clinton from the Russian government; As a candidate, Trump publicly urged the Russians to hack Clinton’s emails; Trump pursued a lucrative Trump Tower project in Moscow during the campaign; Multiple top Trump campaign and administration officials were convicted of lying to investigators about their contacts with Russians
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/24/robert-mueller-testimony-key-takeaways-exoneration-indictment
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No. It was not. I keep hearing that around here, but it is patently untrue.
The laptop business has such a fucking flawed foundation as to be nonsense. The chain of custody is beyond fucked. As to the favorable banking...what do you think margie and her drooling cohorts have been digging at the past two years? They have found...nothing. Not a single fucking thing.
Eh...if there was a story here, the Rs would be all over it, 24/7. I'm open to hearing more, but I'm going in skeptical.
At this point it's an existential question of whether our attempt at democracy lives or dies. It's an unfortunate binary. I dislike much of our foreign policy. I think the DNC is too mealy mouthed when they could take stronger positions that are demonstrably popular. That said, a second Trump term would be disastrous in ways that I don't think people are willing to admit are possible.
This part: “ It's an unfortunate binary choice” doesn’t apply to sex, though right?
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This part: “ It's an unfortunate binary choice” doesn’t apply to sex, though right?
In my house it does! The Snake charmer verifies it daily with the example below:
It’s either…
“Yes, Honey. I want you.”
OR
“Don’t touch me!”
The 2nd one is far more frequent now that she has a bun in the oven.
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The diary has not been proven or disproven, but the details of the diary were sent with legitimate tax documents. Smoke & fire and all that.
This actually is not true. The existence of the diary and its contents was validated when the person who obtained it was arrested, charged, and convicted of stealing it.
A Florida woman who stole and then sold a diary and other items belonging to Ashley Biden — the daughter of President Joe Biden — to a right-wing media group weeks before the 2020 election was sentenced Tuesday to one month in federal jail and three months of home detention.
You cannot jail someone for stealing something that does not exist. That she spoke of multiple instances of molestation and "hyper sexualiztion" also cannot be denied.
(https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-b6fddd3d94aded7b7ba69a8c26e31a65)
It can be ignored by mainstream media because it doesn't fit the narrative of Ice Cream Jack. It can be ignored by people who are blinded by loyalty to false idols. But it's right there in her own, verified, handwriting.
Don't jump!
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In my house it does! The Snake charmer verifies it daily with the example below:
It’s either…
“Yes, Honey. I want you.”
OR
“Don’t touch me!”
The 2nd one is far more frequent now that she has a bun in the oven.
Yes and I would even venture to say that these two opposing responses are universal since man has walked the earth. One might however have some hot charming success late initial phase and during the second trimester, buns and all. The correct food suggestion or bribe is all important at this stage. Get to fetching!
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Timely and relevant:
https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1781329876672196714?t=9qd1ZACDrg12tHARrp5rZw&s=19
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Timely and relevant:
https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1781329876672196714?t=9qd1ZACDrg12tHARrp5rZw&s=19
Irrelevant until you address the diary.
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What’s this rewrite of Title IX that keeps being mentioned?
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What’s this rewrite of Title IX that keeps being mentioned?
Dads can shower with teenage daughters now. It’s cool. 😎
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Kennedy is a conspiracy-endorsing whack job.
Given our options, it has to be Biden, unfortunately.
or don't punch. write in. never understood that mentality if you don't care for don't vote.
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or don't punch. write in. never understood that mentality if you don't care for don't vote.
That’s what a man with true principles would do. However, the left would vote for satan if it meant stopping bad orange man.
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or don't punch. write in. never understood that mentality if you don't care for don't vote.
Once the republican party became a christo-fascist regime, it became pretty important to beat them in elections.
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Once the republican party became a christo-fascist regime, it became pretty important to beat them in elections.
Do you even hear yourself?
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Do you even hear yourself?
He means once they stood up and said NO. 99% of republicans today were middle of the road 25 years ago. We never moved. Now, because we said NO, we are right wingers. Let’s have this revolution and get this shit over with. I’m not budging.
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He means once they stood up and said NO. 99% of republicans today were middle of the road 25 years ago. We never moved. Now, because we said NO, we are right wingers. Let’s have this revolution and get this shit over with. I’m not budging.
It’s just amazing to me that someone who has shown at least a flicker of intelligence could be so intractably, myopically, fundamentally, historically wrong.
As far away from the right side of history as he could possibly be. Fascist??? That’s pure projection. The democrats are the fascists. They’re the ones locking up opponents, using the government to censor thoughts and speech and dissent.
What republicans control the media with daily marching orders and standardized language?
I honestly pity his complete and total blindness.
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Once the republican party became a christo-fascist regime, it became pretty important to beat them in elections.
Really trying to figure this one out.
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Really trying to figure this one out.
i'm sure it was just a spelling error or two.
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The overarching insertion of xtianity as the basis of governmental intrusion into everyone's personal life has been going on a while, but hoooboy have they stomped on the accelerator lately.
The fascistic/autocracy bent is more a Trumpian development, but he's got a stranglehold on the r's, so by default they are fascists, too, now.
I can point you to all the evidence (the bulk coming straight from Trump's fat, stupid gob), but you're not interested in hearing it and I'm not interested in leading horses to water.
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The overarching insertion of xtianity as the basis of governmental intrusion into everyone's personal life has been going on a while, but hoooboy have they stomped on the accelerator lately.
The fascistic/autocracy bent is more a Trumpian development, but he's got a stranglehold on the r's, so by default they are fascists, too, now.
I can point you to all the evidence (the bulk coming straight from Trump's fat, stupid gob), but you're not interested in hearing it and I'm not interested in leading horses to water.
I’m willing to walk with you on the GW Bush using 9-11 to fundamentally change the nature of the surveillance state. Where we diverge is that Bush - or his handlers, he wasn’t smart enough to tie his own shoes - were and are uniparty globalists.
They - and this really came to the fore with Obama - have used those “for your own good” measures to turn the alphabet agencies into an Orwellian big brother nightmare, designed to shape speech, thought, and action by intimidation or force. Do you remember Obama’s first term website where you were supposed to report friends and neighbors who said anything bad about him or his administration? Pepperidge Farm (and Kaos) does. That was just the tip.
I’m not specifically blaming democrats because I’m pretty confident the “Republican” party, outside of Trump, is controlled opposition. It’s all for show. There is no doubt, however that the democrats do own the media. They own the judiciary. They control and weaponize the DOJ, the FBI, the CIA, the IRS. They use all of them to quash dissent. To destroy anyone or anything that could disrupt the corrupt cash flow.
I’ve dealt with state governments for more than two decades. I’ve seen the corruption up close - from Siegelman to Riley to even Mee Maw. I know first hand how it works. I know what they are doing to Trump because I know people who were threatened with that kind of public excoriation when just a few million were at stake.
Joe Biden is the most corrupt and perverted person who’s ever held the office. How you can look the other way at his lifetime of corruption, his threat to withhold funds unless prosecutors targeting his corruption were fired, the shell accounts for his family, the paper trail, the unexplained income, marrying his babysitter, molesting his daughter, getting billions for his son for which he for a cut…. And a thousand other red flags, like trying to give voting rights to a flood of non-citizens?? How can you ignore all of that because of some phony, feeling-based “threat to democracy” you presume is posed by Trump?
The only thing Trump threatens is the globalist cabal intent on destroying the very fabric of America. Obama (globalist, socialist, likely murderer). Hillary (globalist, fascist, murderer). Gates (globalist, population reduction)… that list is long.
We could not be destroyed from the outside. So they set their sights on internal destruction. And YOU, Wes, prance blindly along baaaa-ing in harmony with their death to America agenda.
I legitimately and honestly cannot understand how you can be so willfully obtuse. I hope you wake up.
With love on my birthday, Kaos.
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We'll have us a little book barbecue in the yard. They'll see the flames for miles. We'll dance around it like wild Injuns! You understand me? Catching my drift?... Or am I being obtuse?
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At this point it's an existential question of whether our attempt at democracy lives or dies.
Do you really believe that? I mean, honest to God truly believe that if Trump is elected this November, by 2028 the USA no longer exists?
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Do you really believe that? I mean, honest to God truly believe that if Trump is elected this November, by 2028 the USA no longer exists?
No, it will continue as a nation in name. Our democratic institutions, however, will not survive.
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No, it will continue as a nation in name. Our democratic institutions, however, will not survive.
Which ones in particular?
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I have drank with Wes and a chick that took her bra off mid encounter, but I don’t recognize this iteration. Weird.
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Which ones in particular?
Meaningful elections will be a thing of the past. The law enforcement/justice system will be weaponized against political opponents. He's telling you all this, explicitly.
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Meaningful elections will be a thing of the past. The law enforcement/justice system will be weaponized against political opponents. He's telling you all this, explicitly.
To K's point...
You have most media outlets, the 3 letter agencies, the justice department, most actors/musicians, and most West Coast tech CEOs all supporting your political ideologies. If anything, it is the exact opposite of what you are saying presently. Nothing is stacked against the American left within the institutions mentioned above of political influence/power.
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Meaningful elections will be a thing of the past. The law enforcement/justice system will be weaponized against political opponents. He's telling you all this, explicitly.
As usual, the left makes these unfounded claims. Claims to actions that they themselves are already employing. Its sad really.
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To K's point...
You have most media outlets, the 3 letter agencies, the justice department, most actors/musicians, and most West Coast tech CEOs all supporting your political ideologies. If anything, it is the exact opposite of what you are saying presently. Nothing is stacked against the American left within the institutions mentioned above of political influence/power.
Exactly. The NPR story is pretty much all you need to know about the media.
The current situation with Trump and all these bogus indictments, is exactly why I don't want the man in office. The left will stop at nothing to keep him out, and if he wins, get ready for more Russia Collusion hoaxes, and anything else they can drum up to cause utter chaos. It will be a circus, and one that may just be the thing that starts that civil war people are so scared about.
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To K's point...
You have most media outlets, the 3 letter agencies, the justice department, most actors/musicians, and most West Coast tech CEOs all supporting your political ideologies. If anything, it is the exact opposite of what you are saying presently. Nothing is stacked against the American left within the institutions mentioned above of political influence/power.
Agreed that the fascist movement is a minority (even within the party), that is why it will be crucial for them to destroy the machinery should they obtain power.
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Which ones in particular?
He’s just worried that Trump is going to ban fag butt sex.
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Meaningful elections will be a thing of the past. The law enforcement/justice system will be weaponized against political opponents. He's telling you all this, explicitly.
I’m literally agog. This is everything that has been happening since November of 2020. None of it. Not one iota of it done by Trump or republicans.
What you fear is explicitly happening right now. Right this very minute. Targeting conservatives and anyone who supports Trump. N
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No, it will continue as a nation in name. Our democratic institutions, however, will not survive.
Are you at all worried about the warrior caste within our military potentially being non-existent by 2028 should Biden win reelection?
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Are you at all worried about the warrior caste within our military potentially being non-existent by 2028 should Biden win reelection?
The absolute least of my worries.
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The absolute least of my worries.
I remember a time not long ago that liberals were champions of free speech. Now they make concerted efforts to silence anyone with opposing views.
A large swath of today's liberals are actual fascists by definition, canceling and persecuting conservative voices on a large scale. I am not grouping you in with that, but find it extremely ironic that you are prescribing that "fascist" title to conservatives.
I invite you back towards the center, where the goal is fidning common ground and moving this country in the best direction for both sides. Not to benefit one side or the other. Biden doesn't benefit average citizens like us.
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I remember a time not long ago that liberals were champions of free speech. Now they make concerted efforts to silence anyone with opposing views.
A large swath of today's liberals are actual fascists by definition, canceling and persecuting conservative voices on a large scale. I am not grouping you in with that, but find it extremely ironic that you are prescribing that "fascist" title to conservatives.
I invite you back towards the center, where the goal is fidning common ground and moving this country in the best direction for both sides. Not to benefit one side or the other. Biden doesn't benefit average citizens like us.
The problem isn't so much "opposing views" it's the continued spouting of complete nonsense that is divorced from reality. No one is under any obligation to engage with all that bad faith bullshit.
And "cancel" culture doesn't exist. Stop it.
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I invite you back towards the center, where the goal is fidning common ground and moving this country in the best direction for both sides. Not to benefit one side or the other. Biden doesn't benefit average citizens like us.
Sadly there is no center any more. You either crush the left or get crushed by their whacked out policies.
As you can see by his response, all of the blame is squarely on the "bad faith". I am sure he's talking about the "bad faith" of the left...right?
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I am sure he's talking about the "bad faith" of the left...right?
I'm talking about anyone who espouses absolute bunk. Complete fabrications and lies deserve no quarter. Regardless of who is putting it out there. Unfortunately the entirety of the R identity is currently built upon such falsehoods.
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I'm talking about anyone who espouses absolute bunk. Complete fabrications and lies deserve no quarter. Regardless of who is putting it out there. Unfortunately the entirety of the R identity is currently built upon such falsehoods.
You have literally espoused lies about Trump in this very thread. Lies attributed to Trump that accurately describe the current administration. You must really despise yourself...
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The absolute least of my worries.
Odd that you're worried about institutions except the one that provides the blanket of security to allow you to worry about the others.
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Odd that you're worried about institutions except the one that provides the blanket of security to allow you to worry about the others.
What I mean is that system is entirely overfunded and able to withstand normal administrative regime change for the most part.
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And "cancel" culture doesn't exist. Stop it.
What day did you divorce reality?
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You have literally espoused lies about Trump in this very thread. Lies attributed to Trump that accurately describe the current administration. You must really despise yourself...
Which? Provide evidence.
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What day did you divorce reality?
It was an asinine statement. Ego and tribalism sure can cloud and twist truth.
Not that I am some authority on truth, but some of this stuff is 2+2=4, and we are seeing an argument that it should equal 5.
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It was an asinine statement. Ego and tribalism sure can cloud and twist truth.
Not that I am some authority on truth, but some of this stuff is 2+2=4, and we are seeing an argument that it should equal 5.
It begins mostly with "The Big Lie" and once folks internalize that one, they swallow the rest of them because they don't want to admit to being duped.
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Which? Provide evidence.
If Trump is elected, in your own words:
Meaningful elections will be a thing of the past. The law enforcement/justice system will be weaponized against political opponents. He's telling you all this, explicitly.
At this point, no one believes Biden was actually elected. Democrats did that. So do we really have meaningful elections now? Not on Trump. The Biden administration/left continues to use the DOJ to try and squelch Trump. Again, not Trump.
Yet here you are...
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Fentynal deaths and brazen strong arm robberies (disguised as “shoplifting”) are at an all time high.
Inflation makes living as difficult as I’ve seen it since Jimmy Carter.
The stock market has thankfully not shown as much crash but it’s likely to follow.
Illegal aliens are crashing over the few National Guardsmen that Biden FINALLY brought in (too few and too late) to slow the #bidenbordercrisis. 8 MILLION since Sniffy was installed.
And the Smnowflakes are worried about hush money and porn stars but mostly…The Donald.
As usual, they are hoeing in the flower bed while the hay barn is on fire.
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I'm talking about anyone who espouses absolute bunk. Complete fabrications and lies deserve no quarter. Regardless of who is putting it out there. Unfortunately the entirety of the R identity is currently built upon such falsehoods.
What do you identify as?
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It begins mostly with "The Big Lie" and once folks internalize that one, they swallow the rest of them because they don't want to admit to being duped.
Is 2+2=4 supposed to be the big lie?
I am happy to admit when I am wrong. All I care about is truth & the well-being of U.S. citizens.
There are some issues that you and I would definitely agree on such as: taking care of our planet, providing healthcare for all, social programs that help those in need (with the caveat that they get back on their feet in a designated period of time), and a few more I am sure. I have gotten more conservative as I have aged, though.
What troubles me are the things that you are parading as truth.
1. No such thing as cancel culture.
2. Russian collusion happened.
3. Trump being a threat to democracy with examples of stuff the current administration is actually doing.
Just am genuinely having a hard time grasping your line of reasoning & some of the mental gymnastics you're having the perform to try to convince us that the blue cat is, in fact, yellow.
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At this point, no one believes Biden was actually elected.
Yes, actually the majority of the country does.
So do we really have meaningful elections now?
Yes. The last election was the most litigated/scrutinized and there were no significant irregularities. In fact, the bulk of the "voter fraud" was republicans voting multiple times.
The Biden administration/left continues to use the DOJ to try and squelch Trump.
Enforcing the law isn't trying to "squelch" him.
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Is 2+2=4 supposed to be the big lie?
Rigged Election and No Insurrection are the lies, mostly the former but you can't have one without the other as the song goes.
1. No such thing as cancel culture.
No one is getting "cancelled." They are experiencing negative consequences of saying stupid and shitty things, but that's what the 1st is all about: you can say it, but you're not free from the consequence of it.
2. Russian collusion happened.
Mueller said exactly that. The problem is the semantic muddying of the use of "collusion." You're correct, no one was charged with "collusion" because that doesn't exist as a crime. Plenty of folks have been indicted/charged/convicted for improperly mediating between various russians and the Trump campaign. Call that what you like, but it's fucking wrong.
3. Trump being a threat to democracy with examples of stuff the current administration is actually doing.
Specifically what? Every infringement on our rights has been by extremist xtian legislators and the sold-out shit weasels on the SCOTUS.
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Rigged Election and No Insurrection are the lies, mostly the former but you can't have one without the other as the song goes.
You can understand why it would be hard to believe that Biden broke records in the popular vote. I hope so at least.
No one is getting "cancelled." They are experiencing negative consequences of saying stupid and shitty things, but that's what the 1st is all about: you can say it, but you're not free from the consequence of it.
There is an obvious attempt to enforce certain ideological speech. There are countless examples, and dissenting opinions are labeled as hate speech.
Mueller said exactly that. The problem is the semantic muddying of the use of "collusion." You're correct, no one was charged with "collusion" because that doesn't exist as a crime. Plenty of folks have been indicted/charged/convicted for improperly mediating between various russians and the Trump campaign. Call that what you like, but it's fucking wrong.
I dislike the practice of using resources to dig up dirt on opponents. In a perfect world, candidates would be elected based off policy, character, and merit alone. I can all but guarantee that "collusion" happens on both sides.
Specifically what? Every infringement on our rights has been by extremist xtian legislators and the sold-out shit weasels on the SCOTUS.
Weaponization of OSHA, a government agency, to enforce vaccine mandates as an example. An obvious attempt near every election cycle to throw whatever they think can stick against Trump. It's obvious it is all very politically driven to me. That said, I don't think he is a man of high character. All this stuff is bullshit that wouldn't see the light of day if he didn't have a shot to land the presidency.
Since we are speaking on objective truths, I wanted to pick your brain on a couple more things:
1. How many genders are there?
2. Is capitalism bad for America?
3. Should people be jailed for things that they say that do not incite violence?
4. Should children have a say in gender reassignment?
5. Is there a such thing as institutional racism? If so, where?
6. What conservative values to do you personally hold?
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Since we are speaking on objective truths, I wanted to pick your brain on a couple more things:
1. How many genders are there? It's a spectrum.
2. Is capitalism bad for America? Not inherently, but the current iteration of it here in the US is not sustainable.
3. Should people be jailed for things that they say that do not incite violence? This is too broad, but I'm going to say that stochastic terrorism (even directed at a single person) should be actionable, yes.
4. Should children have a say in gender reassignment? A say, in coordination with their parents and physicians.
5. Is there a such thing as institutional racism? If so, where? Yes. Start with the interstate system if you somehow do not believe this objective truth, but it's ubiquitous due to the nature of the origination, management and funding of those institutions.
6. What conservative values to do you personally hold? You're going to have to be specific. Do you mean true conservatism or the bastard, mutant child that is the republican party that erroneously calls themselves "conservative"?
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Are there any plans by your party to color code the gender spectrum in order for faster identification?
How much notice does a man need to give before he decides to start sucking cock. Big long and hard ones.
I’m wanting to know in case someone asks me.
Are the gender regulations the same for the blacks?
If color coded, are you going with pink? And if so, what shade?
Thank you for all that you do for the transgenders.
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You can understand why it would be hard to believe that Biden broke records in the popular vote. I hope so at least.
There is an obvious attempt to enforce certain ideological speech. There are countless examples, and dissenting opinions are labeled as hate speech.
I dislike the practice of using resources to dig up dirt on opponents. In a perfect world, candidates would be elected based off policy, character, and merit alone. I can all but guarantee that "collusion" happens on both sides.
Weaponization of OSHA, a government agency, to enforce vaccine mandates as an example. An obvious attempt near every election cycle to throw whatever they think can stick against Trump. It's obvious it is all very politically driven to me. That said, I don't think he is a man of high character. All this stuff is bullshit that wouldn't see the light of day if he didn't have a shot to land the presidency.
Since we are speaking on objective truths, I wanted to pick your brain on a couple more things:
1. How many genders are there?
2. Is capitalism bad for America?
3. Should people be jailed for things that they say that do not incite violence?
4. Should children have a say in gender reassignment?
5. Is there a such thing as institutional racism? If so, where?
6. What conservative values to do you personally hold?
Today’s article about how how disinformation and bogus lies are spreading about how vaccines are harming otherwise healthy individuals is brought to you by Pfizer. Don’t be afraid of no clot shot.
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It’s hard to keep up with the weirdo claims of the left.
Most of us are trying to figure out how you have an insurrection with zero arms.
It’s the only insurrection in history to haven take place by unarmed individuals.
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WT notwithstanding, there are two genders, and only two. Male and female. XY and XX chromosomes. With the exception of a few sea horses and starfish, one has a cock, and one has a vaj. It's that way in horses, pigs, deer, cats, dogs, mice, penguins, otters, moosens, geeses, frogs and humans. Has been since creation, or the beginning of our world with a big bang, whichever you believe in.
There is no spectrum, except a shitty cable company that charges way too much and forced me to go Youtube TV. You can choose to play dress up, cut shit off yourself, take hormones, reduce hormones, and call yourself whatever the fuck you want. More power to you. Live your life. You can "feel" like a man trapped in a woman's body, or vice versa. But you are still either male or female. Nobody can be forced to participate in your fantasy world.
Children cannot smoke, drink, vote, join the military or buy a dirty magazine until they reach a certain age. Doesn't matter if their parents think it's okay. It's against the law. And any parent or doctor who participates in helping a child "transition", whether it be through surgery, hormones or otherwise, needs to be under the F'n jail.
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Most of us are trying to figure out how you have an insurrection with zero arms.
This is the shit I'm talking about. There have been multiple convictions on weapons/guns violations.
This vacation from reality is the fucking problem.
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WT notwithstanding, there are two genders, and only two. Male and female. XY and XX chromosomes. With the exception of a few sea horses and starfish, one has a cock, and one has a vaj. It's that way in horses, pigs, deer, cats, dogs, mice, penguins, otters, moosens, geeses, frogs and humans. Has been since creation, or the beginning of our world with a big bang, whichever you believe in.
There is no spectrum, except a shitty cable company that charges way too much and forced me to go Youtube TV. You can choose to play dress up, cut shit off yourself, take hormones, reduce hormones, and call yourself whatever the fuck you want. More power to you. Live your life. You can "feel" like a man trapped in a woman's body, or vice versa. But you are still either male or female. Nobody can be forced to participate in your fantasy world.
Children cannot smoke, drink, vote, join the military or buy a dirty magazine until they reach a certain age. Doesn't matter if their parents think it's okay. It's against the law. And any parent or doctor who participates in helping a child "transition", whether it be through surgery, hormones or otherwise, needs to be under the F'n jail.
I love you, S. I truly do.
But, the world is replete with examples (human and non) of gender fluidity. I'm really sorry that this somehow makes a lot of people (only very recently) very uncomfortable. But they are here. They have been for thousands of years.
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I love you, S. I truly do.
But, the world is replete with examples (human and non) of gender fluidity. I'm really sorry that this somehow makes a lot of people (only very recently) very uncomfortable. But they are here. They have been for thousands of years.
The wrong hole gets deeper and deeper
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The wrong hole gets deeper and deeper
Oh, man. Let's have a parthenogenesis discussion.
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This is the shit I'm talking about. There have been multiple convictions on weapons/guns violations.
This vacation from reality is the fucking problem.
Oh please. Not one inside the capitol! And the FBI agrees.
You chicken shits have never seen an armed insurrection.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/03/04/fact-check-fbi-says-bureau-didnt-recover-guns-capitol-riot/4578286001/
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Oh, man. Let's have a parthenogenesis discussion.
Never heard of that word and looked it up, but what I saw said it didn’t apply to mammals or humans?
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Yes, actually the majority of the country does.
Demonstrably false.
Yes. The last election was the most litigated/scrutinized and there were no significant irregularities. In fact, the bulk of the "voter fraud" was republicans voting multiple times.
Demonstrably false. Scrutinized by whom? AOC?
Enforcing the law isn't trying to "squelch" him.
Untrue. Bending laws and weaponizing the judicial system is what’s happening.
You quoted a “DC court” earlier. What a joke.
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Holy shit. Let’s all agree that both sides have lost their way. Biden is a bumbling fool. Trump is an idiot. Kennedy can’t cobble together a sentence.
I am writing in a Kaos/Wes ticket. I know both of your (semi) full names.
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Holy shit. Let’s all agree that both sides have lost their way. Biden is a bumbling fool. Trump is an idiot. Kennedy can’t cobble together a sentence.
I am writing in a Kaos/Wes ticket. I know both of your (semi) full names.
. I wonder if they’ll make a new lectern for Wes or if they’ll bring out a step stool for him. I can see him up there talking to the press right now. In a bow tie and jacket. Looking just like a little man.
I think his first speech should be on gender fluidity. He can share how it has affected him in the butt.
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I love you, S. I truly do.
But, the world is replete with examples (human and non) of gender fluidity. I'm really sorry that this somehow makes a lot of people (only very recently) very uncomfortable. But they are here. They have been for thousands of years.
I think this is really sweet. Is your love strong enough to let S. stick it up your butt? You both are obviously fluid. And there’s nothing wrong with that.
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Oh please. Not one inside the capitol! And the FBI agrees.
You chicken shits have never seen an armed insurrection.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/03/04/fact-check-fbi-says-bureau-didnt-recover-guns-capitol-riot/4578286001/
It was a setup from the start. They (the left) first told us how it was going to be stolen with Bernie even naming specific counties well before the election. They “predicted” a statistical anomaly that was impossibilly rare and then delivered exactly that — with boarded windows, ballot dumps, unverified signatures, fake addresses, dead voters, illegitimate scans, double scans, and whatever methods were necessary. Give them credit. They know which handful of counties to flip, waited until the legitimate ballots were counted, and then added whatever they needed to change the score. The money from Gates and Zuck helped carry that off.
It’s been “investigated” you say?!? By whom? The people who did it. The people who benefit.
As for the “insurrection”. That was a movie of the week. The same voices that predicted the statistical impossibility that “elected” the potato began talking and warning about it weeks in advance. They seeded the crowd with instigators. Let me borrow from the democrats pre-lie line, but in this case I’m telling you the 1000% truth. Let me be clear: There. Was. No. Insurrection.
There was a protest. There have been worse before and since. The crowd marching on Kavanaugh’s confirmation was much closer to an insurrection than the Jan 6 sham. They - the globalist, fascist left - WANTED it to be one in an effort to further neuter Trump. So they made it into something it never was and never will be.
The more they attack him? The more conclusively sure I am that he may be the last man standing between the continuation of America and the complete and utter destruction of this nation that I love.
Wes? I love you like a brother. I’ve enjoyed sparring with you. Back when it was Trump v Hillary it was fun. It was MORE fun being 10000% right about everything I told you and watching you stew. I’m sorry you entrenched yourself as deep on the wrong side of history as you can get. I hate it if my prods at you played any part in digging you further into that wrong leaning foxhole. But you are wrong. You were then. You are now. You’re as wrong as you can be.
I’m done trying to help you. I hope and pray that your children and grandchildren are not forced to live in the world that will remain if you and others like you cheat your way to control. I shudder to think of the horrors to come if the Democratic Orwellian fascism and communism isn’t contained. It has to be stopped. I have great respect for you - or did - and I truly hope you wake up before it’s too late for all of us.
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I hope and pray that your children and grandchildren are not forced to live in the world that will remain if you and others like you…
I didn’t know that Wes has kids but I doubt that you even believe that he can breast feed his kids. I care about you and want what’s best but you sure are closed minded sometimes.
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5. Is there a such thing as institutional racism? If so, where?
Here's a timely, relevant example (from librul Cali, no less):
In an order issued today, U.S. District Court Judge Vince Chhabria said that the hand-written notes of prosecutors from a 31-year-old murder case “constitute strong evidence that, in prior decades, prosecutors from the [Alameda County District Attorney’s] office were engaged in a pattern of serious misconduct, automatically excluding Jewish and African American jurors in death penalty cases.”
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The apparent attempts to exclude Black and Jewish people from juries in homicide cases may have been based upon the belief that these groups would be less likely to convict someone if a death sentence was possible. Any exclusion of potential jurors because of their race or religion would have been unconstitutional.
Price said this behavior was not limited to one or two prosecutors but involved “a variety of prosecutors.” Price added that people who were identified in this manner did not end up on juries.
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Price’s office is reviewing 35 active death penalty cases, and will potentially review matters dating to 1977. She said the review is starting with death penalty cases but other cases may be implicated.
https://oaklandside.org/2024/04/22/alameda-county-prosecutors-allegedly-excluded-black-people-and-jews-from-death-penalty-juries/
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Here's a timely, relevant example (from librul Cali, no less):
In an order issued today, U.S. District Court Judge Vince Chhabria said that the hand-written notes of prosecutors from a 31-year-old murder case “constitute strong evidence that, in prior decades, prosecutors from the [Alameda County District Attorney’s] office were engaged in a pattern of serious misconduct, automatically excluding Jewish and African American jurors in death penalty cases.”
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The apparent attempts to exclude Black and Jewish people from juries in homicide cases may have been based upon the belief that these groups would be less likely to convict someone if a death sentence was possible. Any exclusion of potential jurors because of their race or religion would have been unconstitutional.
Price said this behavior was not limited to one or two prosecutors but involved “a variety of prosecutors.” Price added that people who were identified in this manner did not end up on juries.
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Price’s office is reviewing 35 active death penalty cases, and will potentially review matters dating to 1977. She said the review is starting with death penalty cases but other cases may be implicated.
https://oaklandside.org/2024/04/22/alameda-county-prosecutors-allegedly-excluded-black-people-and-jews-from-death-penalty-juries/
Wait. So we care about Jews NOW?
I thought the voir dire process allowed each side a set number of strikes with no explanation?
And these notes don't sound like they targeting anyone "JUST BECAUSE":
One undated note referred to a potential juror as a “short, fat, troll.” Another describing a prospective Black female juror reads, “says race no issue but I don’t believe her.”
That would be like us looking at you and saying, "Says he can be impartial about Trump, but I don't believe him."
Maybe there was an issue. Maybe there wasn't. But doesn't the prosecutors get a chance to try and choose the jury they think will help them best? Same as the defense?
Not anywhere near the evidence of systemic racism you think it is in current society. 30 years was a long time ago.
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Here's a timely, relevant example (from librul Cali, no less):
In an order issued today, U.S. District Court Judge Vince Chhabria said that the hand-written notes of prosecutors from a 31-year-old murder case “constitute strong evidence that, in prior decades, prosecutors from the [Alameda County District Attorney’s] office were engaged in a pattern of serious misconduct, automatically excluding Jewish and African American jurors in death penalty cases.”
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The apparent attempts to exclude Black and Jewish people from juries in homicide cases may have been based upon the belief that these groups would be less likely to convict someone if a death sentence was possible. Any exclusion of potential jurors because of their race or religion would have been unconstitutional.
Price said this behavior was not limited to one or two prosecutors but involved “a variety of prosecutors.” Price added that people who were identified in this manner did not end up on juries.
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Price’s office is reviewing 35 active death penalty cases, and will potentially review matters dating to 1977. She said the review is starting with death penalty cases but other cases may be implicated.
https://oaklandside.org/2024/04/22/alameda-county-prosecutors-allegedly-excluded-black-people-and-jews-from-death-penalty-juries/
Only one word in that entire diversion from the truths beating Wes in the face has any significance. The word “may”
“Apparent” attempt “may”.
Like every other liberal babbling point where feelings take precedence and facts are manipulated to fit a feeling-based narrative.
Garbage.
And also not germane to any rational discussion.
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Only one word in that entire diversion from the truths beating Wes in the face…
:pearl: :monkey: :monkey: :monkey: :monkey: :pb: :pb: :sadm:
I came in to put the emoji of the guy being beaten in the face with dicks because it is one of my favorites. Not because I like being beaten in the face with dicks, motherfucker. GFY.
But it’s gone. I think it would have been great in response to this post as Wes really does like it.
I guess it’s one more thing the weird guy who used to run this place did before he bought the farm. He was a true motherfucker. And he fucked this place entirely up before departing. Piss on his grave.
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Here's a timely, relevant example (from librul Cali, no less):
In an order issued today, U.S. District Court Judge Vince Chhabria said that the hand-written notes of prosecutors from a 31-year-old murder case “constitute strong evidence that, in prior decades, prosecutors from the [Alameda County District Attorney’s] office were engaged in a pattern of serious misconduct, automatically excluding Jewish and African American jurors in death penalty cases.”
...
The apparent attempts to exclude Black and Jewish people from juries in homicide cases may have been based upon the belief that these groups would be less likely to convict someone if a death sentence was possible. Any exclusion of potential jurors because of their race or religion would have been unconstitutional.
Price said this behavior was not limited to one or two prosecutors but involved “a variety of prosecutors.” Price added that people who were identified in this manner did not end up on juries.
...
Price’s office is reviewing 35 active death penalty cases, and will potentially review matters dating to 1977. She said the review is starting with death penalty cases but other cases may be implicated.
https://oaklandside.org/2024/04/22/alameda-county-prosecutors-allegedly-excluded-black-people-and-jews-from-death-penalty-juries/
Are you actually trying to convey that striking a potential juror based on race is evidence of institutional racism? Seriously?
Because, I realize that I have brain damage and am very likely misunderstanding this. I actually hope that I am misunderstanding this and that I am the dumbass in this case. It certainly wouldn’t be the first time.
But if I am not mistaken and you actually are using this as evidence of institutional racism, you are the one with major problems. I mean as in, you should be disbarred for being a fucking idiot kind of problems.
If it’s the case, I would beat your ass so bad in a court case it would look like Snags vs Matlock. And I’d be Matlock.
You’d need that fat ass NY D.A. Bragg as the judge to have a shot.
That’s so fucking stupid that it actually doesn’t deserve a response. And I really have always thought you were fairly book smart and stuff. But, now? Fuck man.
Have you ever been checked for an aneurysm?
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Are you actually trying to convey that striking a potential juror based on race is evidence of institutional racism? Seriously?
Because, I realize that I have brain damage and am very likely misunderstanding this. I actually hope that I am misunderstanding this and that I am the dumbass in this case. It certainly wouldn’t be the first time.
But if I am not mistaken and you actually are using this as evidence of institutional racism, you are the one with major problems. I mean as in, you should be disbarred for being a fucking idiot kind of problems.
If it’s the case, I would beat your ass so bad in a court case it would look like Snags vs Matlock. And I’d be Matlock.
You’d need that fat ass NY D.A. Bragg as the judge to have a shot.
That’s so fucking stupid that it actually doesn’t deserve a response. And I really have always thought you were fairly book smart and stuff. But, now? Fuck man.
Have you ever been checked for an aneurysm?
Matlock is dead, so I think I'd have a pretty good shot.
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Matlock is dead, so I think I'd have a pretty good shot.
Cross him off, then.
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I have decided that if Trump is convicted of any of the over 4,000 heinous crimes that the NY or Georgia legal scholars/DA’s have charged him with, that I am only going to vote for him once.
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"Unified Reich"?
Floating a 3rd term?
Still no concern?
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"Unified Reich"?
Floating a 3rd term?
Still no concern?
None whatsoever. The hysterical beta left will scream over any idea. Trump is showing you the absurdity of the liberal controlled media. Your kind laps it up like dogs at the feet of your lord and savior barrack hussein obama. And I will gladly allow him to run for a third term IF he can change the constitution. I wish any candidate good luck with that.
The close he gets to winning, the more desperate you look.
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None whatsoever. The hysterical beta left will scream over any idea. Trump is showing you the absurdity of the liberal controlled media. Your kind laps it up like dogs at the feet of your lord and savior barrack hussein obama. And I will gladly allow him to run for a third term IF he can change the constitution. I wish any candidate good luck with that.
The close he gets to winning, the more desperate you look.
Weird. Use of explicit Nazi language and a confirmed defiance of Constitutional constraints doesn't bother you?
I'm sorry to say that you guys have lost the plot. This is Anti-American shit.
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We need better choices than these two. Biden can’t cobble together a coherent sentence without being hopped up on something and Trump cobbles together insanity.
This election is a nightmare.
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We need better choices than these two. Biden can’t cobble together a coherent sentence without being hopped up on something and Trump cobbles together insanity.
This election is a nightmare.
I agree that the choice is uninspiring, but this is some dire shit coming from the presumptive R candidate.
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I agree that the choice is uninspiring, but this is some dire shit coming from the presumptive R candidate.
But do we elect Barack for the fourth term?
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But do we elect Barack for the fourth term?
Sure, let's. If no rules/norms exist, then fuck it. If, as Trump claims, the Pres has full immunity, then let's suspend habeas corpus and put his dumb orange ass in jail without further ado. Then Biden can pack the court (1 justice for every district was the norm until we hit 9 for some reason). Don't like it? Biden can walk up and cap your dumb ass on 5th Ave.
It's all protected behavior under the Orange Dipshit's current legal theory.
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"Unified Reich"?
check your facts on the context and don't confuse unified with third.
regardless it's cringe worthy.
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Sure, let's. If no rules/norms exist, then fuck it. If, as Trump claims, the Pres has full immunity, then let's suspend habeas corpus and put his dumb orange ass in jail without further ado. Then Biden can pack the court (1 justice for every district was the norm until we hit 9 for some reason). Don't like it? Biden can walk up and cap your dumb ass on 5th Ave.
It's all protected behavior under the Orange Dipshit's current legal theory.
Did you get that I was insinuating that we are currently in Barack’s third term?
Someone other than Joe Biden is in charge. At least, I hope they are. There is no telling what state secrets he is prone to say at any time.
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Weird. Use of explicit Nazi language and a confirmed defiance of Constitutional constraints doesn't bother you?
I'm sorry to say that you guys have lost the plot. This is Anti-American shit.
Meh. We’re just not scared shrieking little bitches every time a word we don’t like shows up.
We support the constitution. And there’s only one candidate trying to follow that right now.
If you are with the left, you are my enemy and the enemy of the constitution.
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We support the constitution. And there’s only one candidate trying to follow that right now.
He's explicitly promising to flout the constitution.
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He's explicitly promising to flout the constitution.
My lord. What happened to you?
I refuse to believe you are a sheep of this magnitude. You’ve become a blithering idiot.
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My lord. What happened to you?
I refuse to believe you are a sheep of this magnitude. You’ve become a blithering idiot.
Token has been investigating this. It turns out that Wes is actually Prowler.
It’s a Finkle is Einhorn type of situation.
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check your facts on the context and don't confuse unified with third.
regardless it's cringe worthy.
Fuck all the way off. All the skirting and flirting with Nazi language by this campaign isn't a fucking accident.
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Fuck all the way off. All the skirting and flirting with Nazi language by this campaign isn't a fucking accident.
You are an idiot. Blind, deaf, and dumb.
Keep on listening to Rachel Madcow and Mourning Joe.
I’m stunned at your stupidity.
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I’m stunned at your stupidity.
You heard me say this is Prowler, right?
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Fuck all the way off. All the skirting and flirting with Nazi language by this campaign isn't a fucking accident.
you should really lay off the pot. it's rotting your brain and making you fat.
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Fuck all the way off. All the skirting and flirting with Nazi language by this campaign isn't a fucking accident.
You know what? I’m not going to let you get away with this. Let’s prove once and for all that you are a diaper-wearing liberal who responds only emotionally and is completely disassociated from the truth when Trump is involved.
You are clearly referring to the “unified reich” hoax here. It was fed to you by Mourning Joe, Madcow, Joyless Reid, and the networks. You did no research. You didn’t bother to determine the veracity. Your mind was already made up. So you parrot their nonsense.
They made a fool of you
1. He never said it. 2. It was a piece of an actual headline from a 100-year old pre WW1 newspaper you can buy as a video background when creating digital content. It’s stock footage. 3. It wasn’t his ad. He saw it, liked it, forwarded it. 4. The words are in there for a millisecond and unrelated to anything said in the ad.
You won’t respond because you have become a simpering Karen without the capacity to look at anything objectively.
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1. He never said it. 2. It was a piece of an actual headline from a 100-year old pre WW1 newspaper you can buy as a video background when creating digital content. It’s stock footage. 3. It wasn’t his ad. He saw it, liked it, forwarded it. 4. The words are in there for a millisecond and unrelated to anything said in the ad.
I know all of that and it's still colossally stupid. I'm not suggesting that Trump is a nazi, he lacks any sort of moral conviction/code at all beyond immediate satisfaction of the id. But his campaign is for damn sure courting them. And that is fucked.
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I know all of that and it's still colossally stupid. I'm not suggesting that Trump is a nazi, he lacks any sort of moral conviction/code at all beyond immediate satisfaction of the id. But his campaign is for damn sure courting them. And that is fucked.
What does morality have to do with the economy and keeping the US out of wars? Take your feigned bullshit outrage elsewhere. You support a head sniffing pedo. Talk about morality…
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I know all of that and it's still colossally stupid. I'm not suggesting that Trump is a nazi, he lacks any sort of moral conviction/code at all beyond immediate satisfaction of the id. But his campaign is for damn sure courting them. And that is fucked.
“His campaign is courting them.”
Another feeling-based reaction with no basis in fact.
Is Trump playing to gun owners? Sure is. Second amendment. The NRA? Yep. 2nd Amendment. People who identify as patriots? Yep. The constitution.
None of that is “Nazi”. It’s conservative. It’s grass roots. It’s Christian. It’s “flyover” America. It’s still the majority.
If you were honest? The current administration has much more in common with the Nazi Party than anything we’ve ever seen in US history.
>Arresting and jailing political opposition.
> Censoring opposing viewpoints
> Control of the media with daily propaganda
> Branding anything counter to the official lie as “misinformation”
> Control of the judiciary to the point of hectoring justices to demand outcomes
> Propaganda designed to portray something horrific in a gentler light. Abortion up to the last moment is no longer murder, it’s “reproductive care.” Mutilating children becomes “gender affirming care.”
All of that reeks of naziism.
Show me how or where anyone related to the Trump campaign is “courting Nazis”. The only Nazis around are Bidens, Clintons, and Obamas. He’s not courting them.
What this administration has done is treason. In a just world the gallows would be full.
It’s engaged in crimes against humanity. It’s inherently evil.
When confronted with facts - which is rare because all politicians are seemingly corrupt? It lies with no fear of retribution. The list is long. Start with Fauci. He should have already been executed. He’s lied repeatedly. About everything.
The Nazis wanted one world government, ruled by them. Who wants the global agenda again? Is that Trump? Didn’t think so.
Wes, I’ve gone to war with you. Love you like the little brother I never wanted. But you are so far off base here I’m truly concerned about you.
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Blind, stupid or a true believer, do you, man. Trump and his apparatus are the death of this country if they can keep him out of prison.
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Blind, stupid or a true believer, do you, man. Trump and his apparatus are the death of this country if they can keep him out of prison.
Again. Didn’t address the topic. Just your feelings.
Trump or no Trump. If the leftward lurch precipitated by Obama, Hillary, and puppet Joe isn’t arrested? There is no country left.
Just remember when your grandkids are in gulags twas kaos who told you what was coming.
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Blind, stupid or a true believer, do you, man. Trump and his apparatus are the death of this country if they can keep him out of prison.
How so? It certainly wouldn't be because of his policies. I'm asking this in all seriousness. Would Democrats call for unrest and violence?
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How so? It certainly wouldn't be because of his policies. I'm asking this in all seriousness. Would Democrats call for unrest and violence?
It will absolutely be because of his "policies." Or rather, his craven need for revenge and autocratic control. He has no interest in governing or the state of the union. He's telling you right now what he'll do. It's coming out of his own mouth.
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It will absolutely be because of his "policies." Or rather, his craven need for revenge and autocratic control. He has no interest in governing or the state of the union. He's telling you right now what he'll do. It's coming out of his own mouth.
One of the biggest mottos in his first campaign was draining the swamp. I imagine he feels like he owes a few people, and rightfully so. Until Covid hit, he was actually doing a damn fine job at governing. All the things that actually mean something in people's everyday lives, were in great shape. Jobs, interest rates, the price of gas, goods and services etc. And there were 10 million less illegal immigrants in the country as well.
However, I truly believe if he gets back in office, there will be major unrest and violence, which will be solely at the feet of the Democrats.
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Would Democrats call for unrest and violence?
Of course they will. Looting, vandalism, arson, masked assaults, and more. Then they'll claim that they're victims & that their actions are justified (again). That's my expectation based off historical data. Hopefully, cooler heads prevail and everyone will start acting like adults again. Civil discourse needs to make a comeback in today's world.
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Of course they will. Looting, vandalism, arson, masked assaults, and more. Then they'll claim that they're victims & that their actions are justified (again). That's my expectation based off historical data. Hopefully, cooler heads prevail and everyone will start acting like adults again. Civil discourse needs to make a comeback in today's world.
Agreed, but unpossible. The adults left the building a long time ago.
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“His campaign is courting them.”
Another feeling-based reaction with no basis in fact.
Is Trump playing to gun owners? Sure is. Second amendment. The NRA? Yep. 2nd Amendment. People who identify as patriots? Yep. The constitution.
None of that is “Nazi”. It’s conservative. It’s grass roots. It’s Christian. It’s “flyover” America. It’s still the majority.
If you were honest? The current administration has much more in common with the Nazi Party than anything we’ve ever seen in US history.
>Arresting and jailing political opposition.
> Censoring opposing viewpoints
> Control of the media with daily propaganda
> Branding anything counter to the official lie as “misinformation”
> Control of the judiciary to the point of hectoring justices to demand outcomes
> Propaganda designed to portray something horrific in a gentler light. Abortion up to the last moment is no longer murder, it’s “reproductive care.” Mutilating children becomes “gender affirming care.”
All of that reeks of naziism.
Show me how or where anyone related to the Trump campaign is “courting Nazis”. The only Nazis around are Bidens, Clintons, and Obamas. He’s not courting them.
What this administration has done is treason. In a just world the gallows would be full.
It’s engaged in crimes against humanity. It’s inherently evil.
When confronted with facts - which is rare because all politicians are seemingly corrupt? It lies with no fear of retribution. The list is long. Start with Fauci. He should have already been executed. He’s lied repeatedly. About everything.
The Nazis wanted one world government, ruled by them. Who wants the global agenda again? Is that Trump? Didn’t think so.
Wes, I’ve gone to war with you. Love you like the little brother I never wanted. But you are so far off base here I’m truly concerned about you.
I was today year’s old before finding out you were that cute little motherfucker’s big brother. I don’t know how to feel about this but I’m not going to be able to meet for lunch.
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For some reason, Robert DeNiro was at, or having a press conference this morning outside the courthouse where closing arguments in Trump's trial were being made. Among other things, he said:
"Donald Trump wants to destroy not only the city, but the country. And eventually he could destroy the world,"
Hmmmm....where have I heard that?
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One of the biggest mottos in his first campaign was draining the swamp. I imagine he feels like he owes a few people, and rightfully so.
Even if you ignore ALL the other disqualifiers, the weight of the presidency isn't to be used as a retributive tool.
And the notion of him "draining the swamp" is hilarious. The motherfucker was running a bribery hotel right down the street from the White House.
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One of the biggest mottos in his first campaign was draining the swamp. I imagine he feels like he owes a few people, and rightfully so. Until Covid hit, he was actually doing a damn fine job at governing. All the things that actually mean something in people's everyday lives, were in great shape. Jobs, interest rates, the price of gas, goods and services etc. And there were 10 million less illegal immigrants in the country as well.
However, I truly believe if he gets back in office, there will be major unrest and violence, which will be solely at the feet of the Democrats.
Neoconservativism exist on the left and right. Obama, Clinton, Bush, Bush Jr, Biden are ALL neocons. Reagan and Trump —not. Just ask yourself who you liked out of these and you can see that if you are more conservative in your beliefs, Trump is your guy.
Most people don’t necessarily believe this and think it’s conspiracy level stuff. So be it. It’s fact.
If they don’t rig the election (again) they will easily wait out another 4 years of Trump. It takes longer than another 4 years to drain the swamp. We are in a very precarious position in that the deep state is rooted very deeply into our own intelligence agencies. They were definitely a part of the effort to keep Trump out. Believe whatever you want but it happened.
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Even if you ignore ALL the other disqualifiers, the weight of the presidency isn't to be used as a retributive tool.
And the notion of him "draining the swamp" is hilarious. The motherfucker was running a bribery hotel right down the street from the White House.
Nor is it to be used to weaponize a justice system to take out your opponent.
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Nor is it to be used to weaponize a justice system to take out your opponent.
Hmmmm. Oh, but….but….whatever. There will be some kind of senseless rebuttal. But, you are correct. 👍 this is unusual. I am proud of you.
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Nor is it to be used to weaponize a justice system to take out your opponent.
That is correct. Thankfully, despite his whining, that is not the case in Trump's prosecutions.
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That is correct. Thankfully, despite his whining, that is not the case in Trump's prosecutions.
It absolutely is the case. Let's take one shining example. Trump has literally dozens of heavily armed FBI agents raid his home and arrest him over possession of classified documents. Joe Biden has classified documents in his F'n garage, and at another location. No police. No FBI, no CIA. In fact, a "special prosecutor" decided not to charge Biden because after investigating and interviewing him, it wasn't because he didn't do anything wrong, but because he thinks Biden is pretty much senile, and would come across as a sympathetic figure to a jury.
Now, you can spin it any way you want, or recite the lies told on MSDNC or CNN. Just the very fact that a fucking army showed up to raid Trump's home over documents, speaks volumes on the literal weaponization of our justice system. Did they think Trump was going to barricade himself in the house and start a fire fight?
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That is correct. Thankfully, despite his whining, that is not the case in Trump's prosecutions.
Your fearless leader cannot string a coherent sentence together. He doesn’t give press conferences, much less take questions. Sniffy is not capable of being president and even you know it. So, your side’s ONLY shot is through trying to take Trump down. The courts and these ridiculous court cases are 💯 % BULLSHIT. The American people who matter know this.
The effort to take him down is so important to them because the level of cheating that will be required to take him down this time is beyond belief. It may happen but it will be more ridiculous than the last time.
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It absolutely is the case. Let's take one shining example. Trump has literally dozens of heavily armed FBI agents raid his home and arrest him over possession of classified documents. Joe Biden has classified documents in his F'n garage, and at another location. No police. No FBI, no CIA. In fact, a "special prosecutor" decided not to charge Biden because after investigating and interviewing him, it wasn't because he didn't do anything wrong, but because he thinks Biden is pretty much senile, and would come across as a sympathetic figure to a jury.
Now, you can spin it any way you want, or recite the lies told on MSDNC or CNN. Just the very fact that a fucking army showed up to raid Trump's home over documents, speaks volumes on the literal weaponization of our justice system. Did they think Trump was going to barricade himself in the house and start a fire fight?
They gave him 18 months. He turned over a few. Then it was revealed that he had more. So they executed the warrant. Pence and Biden immediately, upon request, turned over everything they had and invited the Feds in to look around. Trump absolutely violated the law, and then did it again when called out.
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They gave him 18 months. He turned over a few. Then it was revealed that he had more. So they executed the warrant. Pence and Biden immediately, upon request, turned over everything they had and invited the Feds in to look around. Trump absolutely violated the law, and then did it again when called out.
lol. (lol is code for something that I can’t share because I would get banned. If I get banned, it ruins a lot of people’s lives. My content matters, unlike many others)
Again, in honor of your post: lol
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It will absolutely be because of his "policies." Or rather, his craven need for revenge and autocratic control. He has no interest in governing or the state of the union. He's telling you right now what he'll do. It's coming out of his own mouth.
Come on Wes.
You ran with the Reich hoax. Got called on it. Moved the goalposts to “yeah, none of that was true but they are really courting them.” No proof. No legitimate examples even.
Revenge? Trump is bent on revenge? Last I checked Hillary is still walking around free. He took the high road after beating her. He could have buried her. A dictator would have. He didn’t. He let the crone go.
Who is after revenge here? Maybe Hillary who pulls a couple of Joe’s strings at least? The “revenge” was meted out by a complicit media on Trump from day one.
Yes. He’s telling me what he’s going to do. But it’s not what you’re hearing. You aren’t listening. He’s going to undo most of the awful, terrible things Biden has done. As he should.
But when he let Hillary and her entire crooked cabal walk? He already proved who the real tyrants are.
Now, again. Show me. (You won’t because you can’t, but try).
You used to have cogent arguments. You used to have salient points. You used to make me think. Bring that. Bring something besides what you’re regurgitating after suckling at Madcow’s rancid teat.
Be that version of Wes. Open your mind.
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They gave him 18 months. He turned over a few. Then it was revealed that he had more. So they executed the warrant. Pence and Biden immediately, upon request, turned over everything they had and invited the Feds in to look around. Trump absolutely violated the law, and then did it again when called out.
All of this is explicitly false.
This is the MSM narrative repeated almost verbatim.
It ignores, obfuscates, and distorts the truth.
I’m literally begging you to wake up and look past your quasi-gay attraction to Madcow. She. Is. Lying. To. You. Bro. So is every other news source you follow.
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Come on Wes.
You ran with the Reich hoax. Got called on it. Moved the goalposts to “yeah, none of that was true but they are really courting them.” No proof. No legitimate examples even.
Revenge? Trump is bent on revenge? Last I checked Hillary is still walking around free. He took the high road after beating her. He could have buried her. A dictator would have. He didn’t. He let the crone go.
Who is after revenge here? Maybe Hillary who pulls a couple of Joe’s strings at least? The “revenge” was meted out by a complicit media on Trump from day one.
Yes. He’s telling me what he’s going to do. But it’s not what you’re hearing. You aren’t listening. He’s going to undo most of the awful, terrible things Biden has done. As he should.
But when he let Hillary and her entire crooked cabal walk? He already proved who the real tyrants are.
Now, again. Show me. (You won’t because you can’t, but try).
You used to have cogent arguments. You used to have salient points. You used to make me think. Bring that. Bring something besides what you’re regurgitating after suckling at Madcow’s rancid teat.
Be that version of Wes. Open your mind.
He’s your brother. You are responsible for this. But I don’t remember the cogent arguments or salient points. Link or it did not happen.
Chizad would have linked 25 examples by now. So far, you have linked none.
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He’s your brother. You are responsible for this. But I don’t remember the cogent arguments or salient points. Link or it did not happen.
Chizad would have linked 25 examples by now. So far, you have linked none.
I do miss the big lug. Wish he’d come home. Maybe we should have a reunion.
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All of this is explicitly false.
The dates/timeline are all easily objectively verifiable. I'm sorry you've been duped, but it's not too late to leave the cult.
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The dates/timeline are all easily objectively verifiable. I'm sorry you've been duped, but it's not too late to leave the cult.
It’s all manipulated. Even the source of the “documents” is now in question.
You are the one being duped. I hate that you are so gullible.
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It’s all manipulated.
No, it's not.
Even the source of the “documents” is now in question.
No, they're not. Not by anyone with any credibility.
I'm going to bow out. This is going nowhere.
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I'm going to bow out. This is going nowhere.
Most accurate statement made in the last 12 pages.
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Most accurate statement made in the last 12 pages.
You deserve a bonus for this post. Since Godfather is dead from AIDS (the butt sex with an adolescent street boy kind) I grant you a plus 50. 100 is my max and 10 minimum so I think pretty highly of it.
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I'm going to bow out. This is going nowhere.
The truth is that you have nothing but feelings and Madcow milk to back you up.
THAT’S why you depart. Just admit it.
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The truth is that you have nothing but feelings and Madcow milk to back you up.
THAT’S why you depart. Just admit it.
I think I would puke.
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Since his election in 2016, 90+ criminal charges have been brought against Trump.
Any issues in the past, prior to his presidency, were settled out of court.
We are to believe that none of this is politically driven? Asinine.
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Since his election in 2016, 90+ criminal charges have been brought against Trump.
Any issues in the past, prior to his presidency, were settled out of court.
We are to believe that none of this is politically driven? Asinine.
Any crimes not nullified by a statute of limitations are fair game for prosecution.
And the entirety of his Jan 6 and Documents trials are based on acts during or in the wake of his presidency.
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Since his election in 2016, 90+ criminal charges have been brought against Trump.
Any issues in the past, prior to his presidency, were settled out of court.
We are to believe that none of this is politically driven? Asinine.
Not politically driven at all. Biden's team holding a press conference across from the court house yesterday, complete with a deranged Robert Deniro saying Trump wants to destroy New York, the country and maybe the world....well, the timing of that was totally coincidental. No political motivation at all.
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Not politically driven at all. Biden's team holding a press conference across from the court house yesterday, complete with a deranged Robert Deniro saying Trump wants to destroy New York, the country and maybe the world....well, the timing of that was totally coincidental. No political motivation at all.
Egg Zachary. Blatantly obvious & plain to see.
Amazing the lengths some will go to spin it.
And I, like you Snags, am no huge Trump fan.
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Trump had a rally in the Bronx. The interviews were epic. We see a cross section of society who all agree on one thing, Trump.
It’s been a long time since that happened.
Even those lowly minorities that the liberals are trying to save can see the truth.
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Any crimes not nullified by a statute of limitations are fair game for prosecution.
And the entirety of his Jan 6 and Documents trials are based on acts during or in the wake of his presidency.
How many times has this guy said he’s dropping out? 355?
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How many times has this guy said he’s dropping out? 355?
My question is why now, if not for political reasons on the below:
"Any crimes not nullified by a statute of limitations are fair game for prosecution."
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My question is why now, if not for political reasons on the below:
"Any crimes not nullified by a statute of limitations are fair game for prosecution."
You prosecute when you get evidence sufficient to get the conviction. It just turns out that it took a while before Trump's entire orbit fell in love with the sounds of their voices on television.
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Senator JD Vance, just sent a letter to Merrick Garland demanding a criminal investigation be opened up on Judge Juan Merchan. Obviously, it won't go anywhere, but it points out the blatant bias, and completely F'd up handling of this trial by a Judge who should have recused himself right off the bat.
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You prosecute when you get evidence sufficient to get the conviction. It just turns out that it took a while before Trump's entire orbit fell in love with the sounds of their voices on television.
It makes sense if you don’t think about it.
I am not trying to win you over to a side, but I do hope to appeal to your reasoning. Common ground is the goal, but thus far, it has eluded us on this one. And the gender one. And the economic one.
I am still holding out hope for that one day that I hear/see a view from you that doesn’t trot along the accepted narrative from a very radical leftist point of view. None of that is a shot at you, but I think you’re too smart to just parrot narratives and ideologies that have no reverence for traditional moral values. It seems counterintuitive to agree with EVERYTHING that the party you are affiliated with. I think the same about folks on the right as a disclaimer, but the bullshit from the left is super old. Everything is a racist, sexist, and bigoted injustice somehow in the most free fuckin’ nation in known history. We’ve got it so damn good & your side is wanting to fuck it all up.
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How can either of these cases actually be legal? Aren’t both prosecuting district attorneys, black?
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The truth is that you have nothing but feelings and Madcow milk to back you up.
THAT’S why you depart. Just admit it.
I’m just disappointed to learn that you love him like a brother. Where does this leave me?
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It makes sense if you don’t think about it.
I am not trying to win you over to a side, but I do hope to appeal to your reasoning. Common ground is the goal, but thus far, it has eluded us on this one. And the gender one. And the economic one.
I am still holding out hope for that one day that I hear/see a view from you that doesn’t trot along the accepted narrative from a very radical leftist point of view. None of that is a shot at you, but I think you’re too smart to just parrot narratives and ideologies that have no reverence for traditional moral values. It seems counterintuitive to agree with EVERYTHING that the party you are affiliated with. I think the same about folks on the right as a disclaimer, but the bullshit from the left is super old. Everything is a racist, sexist, and bigoted injustice somehow in the most free fuckin’ nation in known history. We’ve got it so damn good & your side is wanting to fuck it all up.
There is no reasoning with him. He truly believes that democrats are better for the shorts.
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I’m just disappointed to learn that you love him like a brother. Where does this leave me?
Like a sister. Duh.
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traditional moral values.
Line those out for me, if you will.
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Line those out for me, if you will.
I think what he is inferring is that gays and blacks should not count as a whole person or vote. 3/5 is the most common % that I hear suggested, today.
I think we can lump short people in with them. If Trump can stay out of jail, it very well may happen.
If you are short and gay, you may be royally fucked.
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Line those out for me, if you will.
I'll get more into it tonight after work, but we can start with a discussion surrounded by The New Deal, how it incentivizes single parenthood, and how it has directly impacted the crime rates & overall long-term wellbeing of American citizens.
Another discussion we can have is surrounding the equal opportunities vs equal outcomes argument.
Or MLK's take to judge by the content of character and not by the color of skin. These days, all anyone on the left seems to care about is race & gender identity.
Speaking of race, did you know that some colleges are advocating for segregated dormitories? I am of the belief that segregation is a bad/evil thing, and hate that it is part of Southern heritage.
Censorship & efforts to enforce certain speech are a direct contrast of what liberals used to stand for. Yet, in today's world, we are in a constant loop of opposite day on this issue.
I know you are not religious, but it is true that this country was founded with Judeo-Christian moral values that guided foundational policies. We are all the better for it.
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I left off a very obvious one. Child mutilation. Such life altering decisions should not be allowed until they are old enough to support themselves.
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Shit, there's so much here. You still are building assumption on assumption.
I'll get more into it tonight after work, but we can start with a discussion surrounded by The New Deal, how it incentivizes single parenthood, and how it has directly impacted the crime rates & overall long-term wellbeing of American citizens.
Spell that out for me.
Another discussion we can have is surrounding the equal opportunities vs equal outcomes argument.
Oh, let's. I want to hear about the "equal opportunity" part first, please.
Or MLK's take to judge by the content of character and not by the color of skin. These days, all anyone on the left seems to care about is race & gender identity.
The totality of his writing (read: the vast catalogue not recited on MLK Day) is very surprising to some who think that truncated quote from his speech represents the entirety of his politics.
Speaking of race, did you know that some colleges are advocating for segregated dormitories? I am of the belief that segregation is a bad/evil thing, and hate that it is part of Southern heritage.
Kaos is about to swear you off.
Censorship & efforts to enforce certain speech are a direct contrast of what liberals used to stand for. Yet, in today's world, we are in a constant loop of opposite day on this issue.
I'm not rehashing this "cancel culture" canard.
I know you are not religious, but it is true that this country was founded with Judeo-Christian moral values that guided foundational policies. We are all the better for it.
Going to go ahead and point you at the increasingly irrelevant Bill of Rights...thanks, Roberts, et al. That 1st still exists. And while I don't put it past this SCOTUS to try and pervertedly parse it a la the 2nd, it's still the law. Keep your church out of everyone's government.
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Shit, there's so much here. You still are building assumption on assumption.
Spell that out for me.
Oh, let's. I want to hear about the "equal opportunity" part first, please.
The totality of his writing (read: the vast catalogue not recited on MLK Day) is very surprising to some who think that truncated quote from his speech represents the entirety of his politics.
Kaos is about to swear you off.
I'm not rehashing this "cancel culture" canard.
Going to go ahead and point you at the increasingly irrelevant Bill of Rights...thanks, Roberts, et al. That 1st still exists. And while I don't put it past this SCOTUS to try and pervertedly parse it a la the 2nd, it's still the law. Keep your church out of everyone's government.
Snake? This guy is lost.
He’s immersed in the lie. I don’t know what happened to him. It’s hard to fathom.
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Snake? This guy is lost.
He’s immersed in the lie. I don’t know what happened to him. It’s hard to fathom.
One thing I do appreciate about Wes is that he at least will have the conversations that many folks on that side of the aisle won't have anymore.
He agrees with those people on EVERYTHING it seems, but he doesn't shy away from the sparring matches.
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This addresses Snake's equal opportunity vs. equal outcome.
In 2021, United Airlines released the following statement: “Our flight deck should reflect the diverse group of people on board our planes every day. That's why we plan for 50% of the 5,000 pilots we train in the next decade to be women or people of color.”
Yeah, I don't want the best pilot flying the plane I'm on. I don't want the best doctor cutting me open.
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One thing I do appreciate about Wes is that he at least will have the conversations that many folks on that side of the aisle won't have anymore.
He agrees with those people on EVERYTHING it seems, but he doesn't shy away from the sparring matches.
I have considered these positions. This is the result of 46 (coming up on that next one) years of walking this planet, reading, learning (and unlearning a lot of shit that I took for gospel as a kid educated in Florida's panhandle in the 80's).
Despite K's protestations, I don't watch Maddow. Or any cable news. Shit, the only time live television is on in my house is for a sporting event.
I know that our country is great, but could be so much greater. We are tied to dying ideologies for the sake of enriching the uber-rich at the expense of the rest of us.
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I have considered these positions. This is the result of 46 (coming up on that next one) years of walking this planet, reading, learning (and unlearning a lot of shit that I took for gospel as a kid educated in Florida's panhandle in the 80's).
Despite K's protestations, I don't watch Maddow. Or any cable news. Shit, the only time live television is on in my house is for a sporting event.
I know that our country is great, but could be so much greater. We are tied to dying ideologies for the sake of enriching the uber-rich at the expense of the rest of us.
Most of this nation's uber rich agree with your politics. Why is that?
ETA: I do appreciate the genuine response.
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Most of this nation's uber rich agree with your politics.
They absolutely do not. Line that out for me as well.
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They absolutely do not. Line that out for me as well.
Prominent figures:
Soros
Bezos
Dorsey
Zuck
Bloomberg
Cook
Gates
Bill Nye the Pseudoscience Guy
Neil Degrasse-Tyson
Bob Deniro
Almost all of Hollywood
Almost all MSM outlets
To name a few.
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Prominent figures:
Soros
Bezos
Dorsey
Zuck
Bloomberg
Cook
Gates
Bill Nye the Pseudoscience Guy
Neil Degrasse-Tyson
Bob Deniro
Almost all of Hollywood
Almost all MSM outlets
To name a few.
Jesus, you wanna throw the Boogeyman in, too?
Bill Nye the Pseudoscience Guy
Neil Degrasse-Tyson
Bob Deniro
Almost all of Hollywood
Almost all MSM outlets
These aren't the "uber rich".
Soros
Bezos
Dorsey
Zuck
Bloomberg
Cook
Gates
Of these, the only that explicitly only supports Dem causes is Soros (and his reach is extremely overrated and the basis for a LOT of right-wing antisemitism).
The others are at best non-affiliated opportunists. They exist beyond politics (though I'd argue that they've all been a net positive for right-wing content/messaging) and exist only to consolidate more fucking money to the detriment of all us plebes.
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Guilty on all 34 counts.
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Guilty on all 34 counts.
Damn, sometimes the system DOES work. Noice.
Convicted felons can't vote in FL. Just saying.
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One thing I do appreciate about Wes is that he at least will have the conversations that many folks on that side of the aisle won't have anymore.
He agrees with those people on EVERYTHING it seems, but he doesn't shy away from the sparring matches.
If you call shifting goalposts and regurgitating the "feelings" of the MSM conversation, perhaps.
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Damn, sometimes the system DOES work. Noice.
Convicted felons can't vote in FL. Just saying.
Dark day for America, Wes. The system didn't work. A rigged system delivered a pre-ordained outcome that had absolutely no basis in fact. This was no better than a banana republic style attempted takedown of a political rival by the tyrant class.
Even you should be able to see that. I haven't even started law school yet, but I know that much.
None of this should stand up on appeal.
My guess is this kangaroo verdict will only make Trump stronger. I think it is a grave miscalculation of the temperature of today's voting public. This won't endear anyone to the Biden camp. In fact, I think enough people - you excluded, of course - will be shocked at the lengths to which the left has gone to attack Trump will give him an even greater advantage. People are waking up to the fact that this is the continuation of a decade-long witch hunt. Nothing more.
PS: If you don't watch Madcow, why do you parrot her asinine diatribe almost verbatim? How does that happen?
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Dark day for America, Wes. The system didn't work. A rigged system delivered a pre-ordained outcome that had absolutely no basis in fact. This was no better than a banana republic style attempted takedown of a political rival by the tyrant class.
Even you should be able to see that. I haven't even started law school yet, but I know that much.
None of this should stand up on appeal.
My guess is this kangaroo verdict will only make Trump stronger. I think it is a grave miscalculation of the temperature of today's voting public. This won't endear anyone to the Biden camp. In fact, I think enough people - you excluded, of course - will be shocked at the lengths to which the left has gone to attack Trump will give him an even greater advantage. People are waking up to the fact that this is the continuation of a decade-long witch hunt. Nothing more.
PS: If you don't watch Madcow, why do you parrot her asinine diatribe almost verbatim? How does that happen?
100%
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Dark day for America, Wes. The system didn't work. A rigged system delivered a pre-ordained outcome that had absolutely no basis in fact. This was no better than a banana republic style attempted takedown of a political rival by the tyrant class.
Even you should be able to see that. I haven't even started law school yet, but I know that much.
None of this should stand up on appeal.
My guess is this kangaroo verdict will only make Trump stronger. I think it is a grave miscalculation of the temperature of today's voting public. This won't endear anyone to the Biden camp. In fact, I think enough people - you excluded, of course - will be shocked at the lengths to which the left has gone to attack Trump will give him an even greater advantage. People are waking up to the fact that this is the continuation of a decade-long witch hunt. Nothing more.
PS: If you don't watch Madcow, why do you parrot her asinine diatribe almost verbatim? How does that happen?
When you can cogently detail the failings of the trial court I'll be happy to listen. Until then, cult on.
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When you can cogently detail the failings of the trial court I'll be happy to listen. Until then, cult on.
How many hours do you have?
Let’s start with the undefined crime.
Move on to a judge who should have recused himself
Continue with his refusal to allow evidence that would rebut cohen’s testimony
Legal voices much smarter than you or I have stated there are literally hundreds of issues with the trial, the judge, and the way it was handled.
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Damn, sometimes the system DOES work. Noice.
Convicted felons can't vote in FL. Just saying.
Trump is registered in Florida, which gives felons the right to vote if the state where they were convicted allows it. New York only removes a felon’s right to vote while they are imprisoned.
Juridicanated.
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Trump is registered in Florida, which gives felons the right to vote if the state where they were convicted allows it. New York only removes a felon’s right to vote while they are imprisoned.
Juridicanated.
DeSantis scrubbed that shit. The law was passed allowing felons to vote...then Ronnie BigBoots shut it down.
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How many hours do you have?
Let’s start with the undefined crime.
Move on to a judge who should have recused himself
Continue with his refusal to allow evidence that would rebut cohen’s testimony
Legal voices much smarter than you or I have stated there are literally hundreds of issues with the trial, the judge, and the way it was handled.
Inanity.
Cult on.
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DeSantis scrubbed that shit. The law was passed allowing felons to vote...then Ronnie BigBoots shut it down.
I am seeing that as long as he has completed his sentence, he can vote.
Doesn’t really matter, one vote isn’t going to cause the difference.
For the record, I think a lot more political figures should be tried and convicted if this is the standard. Also, I think this was a huge miscalculation by the Democrats. I have friends that were not going to vote for Trump but are now doing so to keep from living in a banana republic.
I think that we should elect a whole new group of people to Congress and get rid of the ones in there now on both sides of the aisle. Same goes for the top spot. I don’t want either of these idiots. Unfortunately, that’s a pipe dream.
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Inanity.
Cult on.
I should give up. You can’t be redeemed.
Go ahead. Vote for Marxists. Vote for socialism. Vote for child mutilation. Vote for murder. Vote for pedophilia. Tell yourself you’re “saving” the country.
Unreal.
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I am seeing that as long as he has completed his sentence, he can vote.
Doesn’t really matter, one vote isn’t going to cause the difference.
For the record, I think a lot more political figures should be tried and convicted if this is the standard. Also, I think this was a huge miscalculation by the Democrats. I have friends that were not going to vote for Trump but are now doing so to keep from living in a banana republic.
I think that we should elect a whole new group of people to Congress and get rid of the ones in there now on both sides of the aisle. Same goes for the top spot. I don’t want either of these idiots. Unfortunately, that’s a pipe dream.
The only part I am different about is that I am drinking the MAGA Kool aid. Which, if you had known me before 2016, would surprise you. I despised everything about Trump. He was my 4th choice out of all republicans.
Now? I see him as Reaganesque. Regardless how sincere he is (which may be less than 50%) the motherfucker get things done. I would never want to work for him. But I would want him to run my company. He is so good that he threatens the deep state so the intelligence community operatives are on the same side as China and the DNC. They were a part of Jan 6th because of Trump. They had suitcases of votes and busted water mains because of Trump. They had a fucking worldwide pandemic…you guessed it.
It came from Chynnna.
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How many hours do you have?
Let’s start with the undefined crime.
Move on to a judge who should have recused himself
Continue with his refusal to allow evidence that would rebut cohen’s testimony
Legal voices much smarter than you or I have stated there are literally hundreds of issues with the trial, the judge, and the way it was handled.
“Show me the man and I’ll show you the crime”
The left is now them…
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It came from Chynnna.
She died about 8 years ago and I think you spelled her name wrong.
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Alvin Bragg, leaving the courtroom…
“Welcome to New York, motherfuckers, where we don't play
And out-of-towners get got like everyday
And a gangsta's a gangsta in every way
Sittin' low on 22's; this what long money do”
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Alvin Bragg, leaving the courtroom…
“Welcome to New York, motherfuckers, where we don't play
And out-of-towners get got like everyday
And a gangsta's a gangsta in every way
Sittin' low on 22's; this what long money do”
Werd!! Is that too old school?
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Legal voices much smarter than you or I have stated there are literally hundreds of issues with the trial, the judge, and the way it was handled.
Legal voices smarter than Wes? Are you smoking some of his ganja?
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Wes, really. This is as big a joke, and a blight on the American justice system as you can get. It’s beyond laughable. There are people who should never be allowed to practice law again. Start with Merchan.
You want specifics? As K said, how much time have you got? To defend this destroys all sense of credibility.
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Wes, really. This is as big a joke, and a blight on the American justice system as you can get. It’s beyond laughable. There are people who should never be allowed to practice law again. Start with Merchan.
You want specifics? As K said, how much time have you got? To defend this destroys all sense of credibility.
I've got time ...
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Wes, really. This is as big a joke, and a blight on the American justice system as you can get. It’s beyond laughable. There are people who should never be allowed to practice law again. Start with Merchan.
You want specifics? As K said, how much time have you got? To defend this destroys all sense of credibility.
It’s a failed exercise. One of two things will happen no matter how much truth you provide.
1) Shift the goalposts
2) employ the favorite tactic of BG03 from the old days: “whataboutism”
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I've got time ...
It’s an exercise in futility, brother. No matter what is laid out before you, your mind is made up.
I didn’t vote for Trump in ‘16. I didn’t vote for him in ‘20. After seeing all this shit, I damn sure will be voting for him in November. Never in a million years thought I’d say that I’d be voting for Trump.
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It’s an exercise in futility, brother. No matter what is laid out before you, your mind is made up.
I didn’t vote for Trump in ‘16. I didn’t vote for him in ‘20. After seeing all this shit, I damn sure will be voting for him in November. Never in a million years thought I’d say that I’d be voting for Trump.
If there are legit problems with the process point them out. All I've heard is RIGGED MAGA BLUBLEURKE
I'll take Steve's criticisms here a little more seriously because the rest of you are just going to be parroting talking heads
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If there are legit problems with the process point them out. All I've heard is RIGGED MAGA BLUBLEURKE
I'll take Steve's criticisms here a little more seriously because the rest of you are just going to be parroting talking heads
I’m not gonna out lawyer you, but I’ll offer my thoughts…
Judge is a Biden donor, should’ve recused himself.
Bragg ran for the DA’s office on the promise to put Trump behind bars.
The whole trial was a moving target trying to look for crimes. The defense didn’t even know what they were defending until the prosecution’s closing argument, which was the last argument heard by the jury. Apparently New York is the only state that allows that… can you confirm?
Key witnesses for the defense were denied.
Biden campaign trotted out Deniro outside the courthouse to bash Trump at a press conference.
All seems like Kangaroo court.
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If there are legit problems with the process point them out. All I've heard is RIGGED MAGA BLUBLEURKE
I'll take Steve's criticisms here a little more seriously because the rest of you are just going to be parroting talking heads
So says the king of parroting talking heads.
Self awareness isn’t your strong suit there, is it Whoopi Wesburg?
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I’m not gonna out lawyer you, but I’ll offer my thoughts…
Judge is a Biden donor, should’ve recused himself.
Bragg ran for the DA’s office on the promise to put Trump behind bars.
The whole trial was a moving target trying to look for crimes. The defense didn’t even know what they were defending until the prosecution’s closing argument, which was the last argument heard by the jury. Apparently New York is the only state that allows that… can you confirm?
Key witnesses for the defense were denied.
Biden campaign trotted out Deniro outside the courthouse to bash Trump at a press conference.
All seems like Kangaroo court.
Dude, you’re not a lawyer. Don’t make us non lawyers look bad by going against the likes of a legal expert, like Wes.
Do not question D.A. Brag’s 45 million dollar net worth. It only brought up because he black.
Is it racist to call attention to the lack of linking verbs in Ebonics?
If so, I don’t mind your deleting my post, Short Stuff. I bring a plenty without it.
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Another thing, Spanky. If you’re thinking that I’m just going to sit idly by and let you abuse Snags, you’re more mentally ill that most seem to believe that you are.
Do you actually believe that anyone on here is incapable of debating either of you? Or, for that matter, beating the physical fuck out of you after the verbal beat down is over?
Regardless, I’m not about to sit here and let you take advantage of my retarded friend. Lawyer or not. Go fuck yourself, fire plug.
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I’m not gonna out lawyer you, but I’ll offer my thoughts…
Judge is a Biden donor, should’ve recused himself.
This is why this is going to be a painful exercise (prob moreso for me than you.) Recusal is a VERY high standard. I've had opposing counsel who was the SON of the judge...and I couldn't get a recusal. Donating to a politician isn't an inherently disqualifying action, without more. Was he a super donor? Millions given? Had to be hundreds of thousands if this is objectionable behavior, right?
$35 to the Dem party with a whopping $15 earmarked for Joe's campaign.
Asked if this could be grounds for a legal challenge or recusal, Gillers said, “Absolutely not. This does not come anywhere near the kind of proof required for recusal.” (Gillers is a legal ethics professor at New York University)
https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/06/politics/judge-merchan-trump-biden-contribution/index.html
Bragg ran for the DA’s office on the promise to put Trump behind bars.
I can't find anything about Bragg's campaign that looks relevant, but a prosecutor promising to be tough on crime...and specifically tough on the loudest and most obvious business crimes committer in NYC...is not surprising.
The whole trial was a moving target trying to look for crimes.
That is patently stupid. The crimes were charged in the indictment. You can't drag someone to criminal court without telling them what they're charged with.
The defense didn’t even know what they were defending until the prosecution’s closing argument,
Also patently stupid. There are no Perry Mason surprises in court. The defense knew (and if they couldn't figure out from the witness list, then they're incompetent) what they were up against.
which was the last argument heard by the jury. Apparently New York is the only state that allows that… can you confirm?
Goddamnit. This is the stupidest yet and why I implore you to please please please stop getting your news from wherever you do. EVERY JURISDICTION IN THE UNITED STATES ALLOWS THE PARTY WITH THE BURDEN OF PROOF TO GET THE FINAL REBUTTAL. PLAINTIFFS IN CIVIL SUITS AND THE STATE IN CRIMINAL CASES GO LAST.
Key witnesses for the defense were denied.
Also for the State. There were limitations on both sides due to the prohibited portions of their testimony and no reasonable way to get them on the record without going beyond the evidentiary limitations. If you have a specific witness objection, let's pull the motions and orders and see what happened.
Biden campaign trotted out Deniro outside the courthouse to bash Trump at a press conference.
Yeah, that was stupid. It also had zero effect on the verdict.
All seems like Kangaroo court.
I'm sure that's the picture being painted in certain media circles that know their audience won't think critically about anything presented to them.
Present company excluded, though, I'm sure.
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Goddamnit. This is the stupidest yet and why I implore you to please please please stop getting your news from wherever you do. EVERY JURISDICTION IN THE UNITED STATES ALLOWS THE PARTY WITH THE BURDEN OF PROOF TO GET THE FINAL REBUTTAL. PLAINTIFFS IN CIVIL SUITS AND THE STATE IN CRIMINAL CASES GO LAST.
This is why you chant be debated. His comment had nothing to do with the prosecution speaking last. It was about them finally revealing exactly what they are trying to prove without having anyone be able to address it. It’s not a normal thing. The defense never had a definitive charge to rebut. Just some vague shit about how he committed a felony, but never really exactly what “higher” crime was committed. Without the supposed higher crime, the whole thing is just another out of the statute of limitations misdemeanor. The whole trial was a sham.
You know it. The people know it. The appellate court knows it.
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This is why you chant be debated. His comment had nothing to do with the prosecution speaking last. It was about them finally revealing exactly what they are trying to prove without having anyone be able to address it. It’s not a normal thing. The defense never had a definitive charge to rebut. Just some vague shit about how he committed a felony, but never really exactly what “higher” crime was committed. Without the supposed higher crime, the whole thing is just another out of the statute of limitations misdemeanor. The whole trial was a sham.
You know it. The people know it. The appellate court knows it.
But surely they would be pursuing this if Trump was not running for office, right?
I’ve changed my mind. I want Trump to be convicted of all this bullshit, stay out of prison and STILL get elected. Of course, we will have to produce more suitcases of votes than them and dodge those busted water mains. But it’s doable.
And then, I want Trump to fly down to Destin and slap Wes in the mouth with his orange dick.
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This is why you chant be debated. His comment had nothing to do with the prosecution speaking last. It was about them finally revealing exactly what they are trying to prove without having anyone be able to address it. It’s not a normal thing. The defense never had a definitive charge to rebut. Just some vague shit about how he committed a felony, but never really exactly what “higher” crime was committed. Without the supposed higher crime, the whole thing is just another out of the statute of limitations misdemeanor. The whole trial was a sham.
You know it. The people know it. The appellate court knows it.
This is the shit I'm talking about. It's so detached from facts/law/reality that there's no basis for a rational discussion.
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This is the shit I'm talking about. It's so detached from facts/law/reality that there's no basis for a rational discussion.
I respect you, and respect that you have a different philosophy on politics. I don’t easily dismiss the things you post. I take them in, digest them, and do some digging when I have time. In fact, I’ve sought after things that we could agree on, but sometimes have missed the mark. I am not entrenched in my positions, and do not want discourse to devolve into malicious, militant word vomit back and forth.
That said, I’ve read things from both sides on this, and know this is unprecedented in our great nation’s history. WT is 100% correct in saying that if he weren’t running for public office, nobody would be after Trump to this extent. Can you at least agree with that?
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WT is 100% correct
You know that I love u, Snake. And it’s 💯% almost entirely not in a gay way, at all. I would be proud for you to be my son. It would be nice to have a son who is not stoned and partying it up all weekend or raising hell and going to jail. I have 2 strikes on me.
At the same time, I feel that it’s my duty to make you into a better man, when I can.
Succinctness is next to cleanliness and pussy, they say. You could have stopped with the part right here and you’d have been completely on target.
🎯 dude.
Much ❤️
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You know that I love u, Snake. And it’s 💯% almost entirely not in a gay way, at all. I would be proud for you to be my son. It would be nice to have a son who is not stoned and partying it up all weekend or raising hell and going to jail. I have 2 strikes on me.
At the same time, I feel that it’s my duty to make you into a better man, when I can.
Succinctness is next to cleanliness and pussy, they say. You could have stopped with the part right here and you’d have been completely on target.
🎯 dude.
Much ❤️
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I’m just worried about that almost 💯%. Let’s pretend that wasn’t said, if you will oblige.
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This is the shit I'm talking about. It's so detached from facts/law/reality that there's no basis for a rational discussion.
So you STILL haven’t read his statement correctly. Figures.
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I really started to go point by point but what would be the point?
He wouldn’t listen anyway. He is lost.
Need to stop sucking his dick about how “smart” he is. Maybe was, but that’s a long liberal time ago. Doesn’t apply any more. Just another sky screamer at this point.
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Wes, let’s shift…
What about the trial that starts today with Hunter behind the defendant’s table? Merits of it?
For the record, I don’t think it will or should have an effect on Joe. I just want to know your view of these proceedings.
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Wes, let’s shift…
What about the trial that starts today with Hunter behind the defendant’s table? Merits of it?
For the record, I don’t think it will or should have an effect on Joe. I just want to know your view of these proceedings.
I'm not really tracking, because it has no bearing at all on anything important.
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So you STILL haven’t read his statement correctly. Figures.
I read it. Responded to it. And it's complete foolishness evincing an entire misunderstanding of the legal process.
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I (knowing squat about cars) go to my mechanic and tell him I hear a thumping sound coming from the right rear of my car. I suspect it's a faulty rear transmission. Tragic, if true.
He looks it over and assures me that it's the iron spike sticking out of my tire and not a transmission problem.
"But my buddy Gary and the local newsguy, Perd Hapley, both assured me that it's a transmission problem," I say. "You must be wrong!"
This is how you guys sound.
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I'm not really tracking, because it has no bearing at all on anything important.
JFC.
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That said, I’ve read things from both sides on this, and know this is unprecedented in our great nation’s history.
Yes, this is unprecedented because we've never seen such blatant criminality (war crimes of all administrations aside) coming from someone holding this office. That's why it's so important to insist on the rule of law.
If they can do it Trump, they can do it to anyone!
Yes, that is the point. The law applies to everyone (though DT got the lightest treatment of any criminal defendant in the history of the US).
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I (knowing squat about cars) go to my mechanic and tell him I hear a thumping sound coming from the right rear of my car. I suspect it's a faulty rear transmission. Tragic, if true.
He looks it over and assures me that it's the iron spike sticking out of my tire and not a transmission problem.
"But my buddy Gary and the local newsguy, Perd Hapley, both assured me that it's a transmission problem," I say. "You must be wrong!"
This is how you guys sound.
Honestly, if you knew 1/10th of the shit you think you know? You'd know 1/10th of that.
You're a lost cause. Period.
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JFC.
Line out for me how Hunter Biden's gun troubles are an issue for any of us to worry about.
The tax thing will come with a bunch of side-dressing of foreign-relations smear, but all the substantive claims around his time at Burisma were debunked in congressional hearing, mostly by the Republican's own witnesses. So, get him if he underpaid his taxes I guess.
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If they can do it Trump, they can do it to anyone!
Yes, that is the point. The law applies to everyone (though DT got the lightest treatment of any criminal defendant in the history of the US).
Please remember that you said this should the outcome you’re hoping for in November not materialize.
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Please remember that you said this should the outcome you’re hoping for in November not materialize.
Ah, yes, the revenge tour we're being promised. Healthy way to govern.
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I (knowing squat about cars) go to my mechanic and tell him I hear a thumping sound coming from the right rear of my car. I suspect it's a faulty rear transmission. Tragic, if true.
He looks it over and assures me that it's the iron spike sticking out of my tire and not a transmission problem.
"But my buddy Gary and the local newsguy, Perd Hapley, both assured me that it's a transmission problem," I say. "You must be wrong!"
This is how you guys sound.
Sorry to hear about your car. Have you checked the trunk to make sure that you didn’t pick up a lot lizard boy or some other male prostitute and inadvertently left them in the trunk?
Your mind is all fucked up so it could have happened. I hope they aren’t dead by now.
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Sometimes, I wish that Godfather was still alive. But I think that seeing how fucked up Wes became may have been too much for him to bear.
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Line out for me how Hunter Biden's gun troubles are an issue for any of us to worry about.
The tax thing will come with a bunch of side-dressing of foreign-relations smear, but all the substantive claims around his time at Burisma were debunked in congressional hearing, mostly by the Republican's own witnesses. So, get him if he underpaid his taxes I guess.
Someone doesn't know the definition of "debunked."
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Someone doesn't know the definition of "debunked."
So, all that congressional activity...hearing after hearing after hearing...must have uncovered something earthshattering and actionable, no?
What's that? Nothing happened. Oh.
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So, all that congressional activity...hearing after hearing after hearing...must have uncovered something earthshattering and actionable, no?
What's that? Nothing happened. Oh.
Well. At least we know you understand the word “obtuse.”
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So here’s CNN’s chief legal analyst Ellie Honig:
"Prosecutors got their man, for now at least — but they also contorted the law in an unprecedented manner in their quest to snare their prey," Honig wrote in New York magazine.
No state prosecutor — in New York, or Wyoming, or anywhere — has ever charged federal election laws as a direct or predicate state crime, against anyone, for anything. None. Ever.
Wes, I gave her your number.
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Here's some info from the Wall Street Journal:
In the Manhattan trial of former President Donald Trump, it seems that partisan judge Juan Merchan insisted on so many limits on the potential testimony of former Federal Election Commission Chairman Bradley Smith that the defense decided it was pointless to put him on the stand. But now the jurors can learn what Journal readers have known for more than a year—hush-money payments to alleged mistresses are not campaign contributions.
This weekend Mr. Smith noted this again on X and also explained in a series of posts why there was a big chronological hole in the claim that a 2016 payment to alleged mistress Stormy Daniels was improperly reported to avoid damaging news prior to that year’s election:
The payment to Daniels was made on Oct. 27. So the payment would not have been reported on the Pre-election report… The next report is the Post-Election Report…
In 2016, the Post-Election Report was required to be filed on December 8, one month after the election. So the prosecution’s theory, that Trump wanted to hide the expenditure until after the election, makes no sense at all…
Even if we assume, incorrectly, that it was a campaign expenditure, it wouldn’t have been reported until 30 days after the election. But again, none of this got to the jury, either through testimony or the judge’s instructions…
Merchan was rather obviously biased here, but I’ll give him the benefit of a doubt and say he was just thoroughly ignorant of campaign finance law, and had no interest in boning up on it to properly instruct the jury.
Mr. Smith sums up the issue under relevant federal law:
There was no illegal contribution or expenditure made, and no failure to report an expenditure. And even if we assume otherwise, the prosecution’s theory made no sense, suggesting no criminal intent.
Could this case look any worse? It seems that even if one made the error of regarding the hush-money payment as a campaign contribution, there would still be ample reason to question the constitutionality of the verdict. Steven Calabresi, who teaches law at Northwestern and Yale, writes for Reason magazine:
In 2010, in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, 558 U.S. 310, the Supreme Court held 5 to 4 that the freedom of speech clause of the First Amendment prohibits the government from restricting independent expenditures for political campaigns by closely allied corporations and groups like The Trump Organization. Under Citizens United, it was perfectly legal for The Trump Organization to pay Daniels $130,000 in hush money to conceal her alleged affair with Donald Trump…
Groups contributing to election campaigns can pay for advertising to promote candidates, and they can also pay hush money to keep bad or false stories out of the news. The effect either way is to help the candidate. You can contribute money to generate good publicity. And, you can contribute money to avoid bad publicity. The First Amendment protects freedom of speech in both cases.
Mr. Calabresi adds:
The U.S. Supreme Court needs to hear this case as soon as possible because of its impact on the 2024 presidential election between President Trump and President Biden. Voters need to know that the Constitution protected everything Trump is alleged to have done with respect to allegedly paying hush money to Stormy Daniels. This is especially the case because the trial judge in Trump’s Manhattan case wrongly allowed Stormy Daniels to testify in graphic detail about the sexual aspects of her alleged affair with Trump. This testimony tainted the jury and the 2024 national presidential electorate, impermissibly, and was irrelevant to the question of whether President Trump altered business records to conceal a crime. The federal Supreme Court needs to make clear what are the legal rules in matters of great consequence to an election to a federal office like the presidency. A highly partisan borough, Manhattan, of a highly partisan city, New York City, in a highly partisan state, like New York State, cannot be allowed to criminalize the conduct of presidential candidates in ways that violate the federal constitution.
The Roman Republic fell when politicians began criminalizing politics. I am gravely worried that we are seeing that pattern repeat itself in the present-day United States. It is quite simply wrong to criminalize political differences.
Wes, I went ahead and forwarded your number to the Chairman of the Federal Elections Commission and to Steven Calabresi, courtesy of Yale and Northwestern.
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Here's some info from the Wall Street Journal:
In the Manhattan trial of former President Donald Trump, it seems that partisan judge Juan Merchan insisted on so many limits on the potential testimony of former Federal Election Commission Chairman Bradley Smith that the defense decided it was pointless to put him on the stand. But now the jurors can learn what Journal readers have known for more than a year—hush-money payments to alleged mistresses are not campaign contributions.
This weekend Mr. Smith noted this again on X and also explained in a series of posts why there was a big chronological hole in the claim that a 2016 payment to alleged mistress Stormy Daniels was improperly reported to avoid damaging news prior to that year’s election:
The payment to Daniels was made on Oct. 27. So the payment would not have been reported on the Pre-election report… The next report is the Post-Election Report…
In 2016, the Post-Election Report was required to be filed on December 8, one month after the election. So the prosecution’s theory, that Trump wanted to hide the expenditure until after the election, makes no sense at all…
Even if we assume, incorrectly, that it was a campaign expenditure, it wouldn’t have been reported until 30 days after the election. But again, none of this got to the jury, either through testimony or the judge’s instructions…
Merchan was rather obviously biased here, but I’ll give him the benefit of a doubt and say he was just thoroughly ignorant of campaign finance law, and had no interest in boning up on it to properly instruct the jury.
Mr. Smith sums up the issue under relevant federal law:
There was no illegal contribution or expenditure made, and no failure to report an expenditure. And even if we assume otherwise, the prosecution’s theory made no sense, suggesting no criminal intent.
Could this case look any worse? It seems that even if one made the error of regarding the hush-money payment as a campaign contribution, there would still be ample reason to question the constitutionality of the verdict. Steven Calabresi, who teaches law at Northwestern and Yale, writes for Reason magazine:
In 2010, in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, 558 U.S. 310, the Supreme Court held 5 to 4 that the freedom of speech clause of the First Amendment prohibits the government from restricting independent expenditures for political campaigns by closely allied corporations and groups like The Trump Organization. Under Citizens United, it was perfectly legal for The Trump Organization to pay Daniels $130,000 in hush money to conceal her alleged affair with Donald Trump…
Groups contributing to election campaigns can pay for advertising to promote candidates, and they can also pay hush money to keep bad or false stories out of the news. The effect either way is to help the candidate. You can contribute money to generate good publicity. And, you can contribute money to avoid bad publicity. The First Amendment protects freedom of speech in both cases.
Mr. Calabresi adds:
The U.S. Supreme Court needs to hear this case as soon as possible because of its impact on the 2024 presidential election between President Trump and President Biden. Voters need to know that the Constitution protected everything Trump is alleged to have done with respect to allegedly paying hush money to Stormy Daniels. This is especially the case because the trial judge in Trump’s Manhattan case wrongly allowed Stormy Daniels to testify in graphic detail about the sexual aspects of her alleged affair with Trump. This testimony tainted the jury and the 2024 national presidential electorate, impermissibly, and was irrelevant to the question of whether President Trump altered business records to conceal a crime. The federal Supreme Court needs to make clear what are the legal rules in matters of great consequence to an election to a federal office like the presidency. A highly partisan borough, Manhattan, of a highly partisan city, New York City, in a highly partisan state, like New York State, cannot be allowed to criminalize the conduct of presidential candidates in ways that violate the federal constitution.
The Roman Republic fell when politicians began criminalizing politics. I am gravely worried that we are seeing that pattern repeat itself in the present-day United States. It is quite simply wrong to criminalize political differences.
Wes, I went ahead and forwarded your number to the Chairman of the Federal Elections Commission and to Steven Calabresi, courtesy of Yale and Northwestern.
You should link it: https://www.wsj.com/articles/now-the-trump-jurors-can-be-told-4425ab87
And Elie Honig is a man.
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You should link it: https://www.wsj.com/articles/now-the-trump-jurors-can-be-told-4425ab87
And Elie Honig is a man.
Who knows these days.
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A little trial transcript for you.
Prosecutor: Ms Daniels can you describe in graphic detail how the defendant did it right in the butt?
Defense counsel: Objection. Relevance.
Judge (pleasuring himself under robe): Over-uh-uh-uhhh-ruled. I want to hear this.
Defense counsel: Your honor, we’d like to submit into evidence this affidavit from Ms Daniels denying this so called affair ever happened.
Prosecution: Objection. This hurts our case.
Judge (to defense): shut up bitch. I’m not allowing anything that could hurt my daughter’s fundraising job. Sustained.
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A little trial transcript for you.
Prosecutor: Ms Daniels can you describe in graphic detail how the defendant did it right in the butt?
Defense counsel: Objection. Relevance.
Judge (pleasuring himself under robe): Over-uh-uh-uhhh-ruled. I want to hear this.
Defense counsel: Your honor, we’d like to submit into evidence this affidavit from Ms Daniels denying this so called affair ever happened.
Prosecution: Objection. This hurts our case.
Judge (to defense): shut up bitch. I’m not allowing anything that could hurt my daughter’s fundraising job. Sustained.
I am only well-versed in Bird Law, among other fringe lawyerings. Your post is enlightening & educational.
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A little trial transcript for you.
Prosecutor: Ms Daniels can you describe in graphic detail how the defendant did it right in the butt?
Defense counsel: Objection. Relevance.
Judge (pleasuring himself under robe): Over-uh-uh-uhhh-ruled. I want to hear this.
Defense counsel: Your honor, we’d like to submit into evidence this affidavit from Ms Daniels denying this so called affair ever happened.
Prosecution: Objection. This hurts our case.
Judge (to defense): shut up bitch. I’m not allowing anything that could hurt my daughter’s fundraising job. Sustained.
About as accurate as anything else you've posted in this thread.
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About as accurate as anything else you've posted in this thread.
Just wave the white flag. Get it over with.
Admit you're wrong and begin the healing process.
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How miserable are the two of you that you always have to be right?
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How is a Judge basically silencing the expert witness from completely blowing the prosecution's case out of the water, anything other than reversible error? Brad Smith, an expert on federal campaign finance law, was going to tell the jury that nothing in the way any payments were made, or how they were listed in expenditures, broke any laws whatsoever. But Merchan wasn't having any of that. His justification?:
“There is no question this would result in a battle of the experts, which will only serve to confuse, and not assist, the jury,”
So, Merchan said, I'll tell the jury what the law is. Well, he didn't. But he did tell the jury that they don't have to agree on which of the alleged offenses Trump committed for it to be unanimous. Just so long as each of you picks one, we're good to go. But the expert, who was going to tell them that NONE of them were against the law, was barred from doing so.
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I am only well-versed in Bird Law, among other fringe lawyerings. Your post is enlightening & educational.
This is no time to try to be funny. This is what I’m talking about. You’ve seen Snags interjecting into serious conversations with lame ass attempts at humor and now you think you can do it at will.
Snags may be your hero but I would recommend that you pay closer attention to my approach. If you’re paying attention, you may notice that if I am trying a light hearted approach and induce humor into the conversation, that the first rule is for you to actually be funny. That’s crucial and a part that Steve has never been able to comprehend.
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How is a Judge basically silencing the expert witness from completely blowing the prosecution's case out of the water, anything other than reversible error? Brad Smith, an expert on federal campaign finance law, was going to tell the jury that nothing in the way any payments were made, or how they were listed in expenditures, broke any laws whatsoever. But Merchan wasn't having any of that. His justification?:
“There is no question this would result in a battle of the experts, which will only serve to confuse, and not assist, the jury,”
So, Merchan said, I'll tell the jury what the law is. Well, he didn't. But he did tell the jury that they don't have to agree on which of the alleged offenses Trump committed for it to be unanimous. Just so long as each of you picks one, we're good to go. But the expert, who was going to tell them that NONE of them were against the law, was barred from doing so.
I bet this was fascinating.
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How miserable are the two of you that you always have to be right?
I don't have to be. I just am.
There is a difference.
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This is no time to try to be funny. This is what I’m talking about. You’ve seen Snags interjecting into serious conversations with lame ass attempts at humor and now you think you can do it at will.
Snags may be your hero but I would recommend that you pay closer attention to my approach. If you’re paying attention, you may notice that if I am trying a light hearted approach and induce humor into the conversation, that the first rule is for you to actually be funny. That’s crucial and a part that Steve has never been able to comprehend.
You best increase those arm circles and 1,2,3 way backs before you come at me, friend!
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You best increase those arm circles and 1,2,3 way backs before you come at me, friend!
WITH A JAB... FOLLOWED BY A SLASH... AAAAAAAATACK!
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You should link it:
And Elie Honig is a man.
I just want to be on record and point out that I strongly oppose your saying nig on here. Very disappointed. I thought you were bigger than this. I had much higher expectations of you.
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What’s a little jury misconduct between friends, huh?
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What’s a little jury misconduct between friends, huh?
Yo, cuz. Just lettin' ya' know. He guilty!
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On a side note, Trump was on Logan Paul's podcast yesterday. Paul axed him about extratesticles in outer space. Been a hot topic here lately.
Think Shane Gillis for Trump's answer
"I met with pilots [who looked] like beautiful Tom Cruise but taller — handsome, perfect, people," Trump told Paul, recalling one pilot telling him, "‘Sir, there was something there that was round in form and going like four times faster than my super jet fighter plane.'"
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On a side note, Trump was on Logan Paul's podcast yesterday. Paul axed him about extratesticles in outer space. Been a hot topic here lately.
Think Shane Gillis for Trump's answer
"I met with pilots [who looked] like beautiful Tom Cruise but taller — handsome, perfect, people," Trump told Paul, recalling one pilot telling him, "‘Sir, there was something there that was round in form and going like four times faster than my super jet fighter plane.'"
I caught a little bit of it during the morning commute. The small sample size I listened to sounded like a friendly interview. Are these big platform podcasters starting to warm up to him?
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I caught a little bit of it during the morning commute. The small sample size I listened to sounded like a friendly interview. Are these big platform podcasters starting to warm up to him?
He’s still not welcome on Six’s podcast, if that tells you anything.
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He’s still not welcome on Six’s podcast, if that tells you anything.
That podcast sucked anyway
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That podcast sucked anyway
I have seen worse. I watched it and was waiting for the chick to show her boobs like you promised.
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I have seen worse. I watched it and was waiting for the chick to show her boobs like you promised.
She could kick the asses everyone here
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She could kick the asses everyone here
This is like being the smartest person on the short bus.
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She could kick the asses everyone here
Even WT?
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Even WT?
Especially WT.
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With everything going on, and the first debate looming this week, it dawned on me at lunch today. Trump ain't winning this thing.
Ain't happenin', no way, no howz!
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With everything going on, and the first debate looming this week, it dawned on me at lunch today. Trump ain't winning this thing.
Ain't happenin', no way, no howz!
Nope. He's toast.
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Especially WT.
You don’t know everything, doo doo head. You just think you do. Ha! Got ‘em!
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Question remains the same but has now flipped.
What would it take, Wes, to acknowledge that Biden is little more than a potato? What would it take to admit that he is not capable of doing this job. Over a week of prep, sequestered from the public and that shambling, rambling, mumbling stooge is the BEST they could do?
What would it take?
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Question remains the same but has now flipped.
What would it take, Wes, to acknowledge that Biden is little more than a potato? What would it take to admit that he is not capable of doing this job. Over a week of prep, sequestered from the public and that shambling, rambling, mumbling stooge is the BEST they could do?
What would it take?
Yes, he's old. Too old for the job. Frankly, they both are.
That said, fascist authoritarianism isn't my bag, so the Rs are not getting my votes.
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Yes, he's old. Too old for the job. Frankly, they both are.
That said, fascist authoritarianism isn't my bag, so the Rs are not getting my votes.
I get it. You are more liberal than most around here. I myself have some libertarian leanings.
However, hyperbolic rhetoric doesn’t win hearts and minds.
Same goes for K’s rambling meanderings.
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Yes, he's old. Too old for the job. Frankly, they both are.
That said, fascist authoritarianism isn't my bag, so the Rs are not getting my votes.
You keep saying this, but the democrats are the ones literally practicing it, Wes. How is that irony lost on you?
LESS government is NOT fascist or authoritarian by any stretch of anyone's imagination. You've ascribed certain traits to a person whose actions don't back up the brand.
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I get it. You are more liberal than most around here. I myself have some libertarian leanings.
However, hyperbolic rhetoric doesn’t win hearts and minds.
Same goes for K’s rambling meanderings.
I ain't rambled or meandered in a coon's age. On point, bucko.
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I ain't rambled or meandered in a coon's age. On point, bucko.
I was just throwing him a bone. Shhhhh…
When does A Tiger Looks at 65 get dropped on al.com?
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Question remains the same but has now flipped.
What would it take, Wes, to acknowledge that Biden is little more than a potato? What would it take to admit that he is not capable of doing this job. Over a week of prep, sequestered from the public and that shambling, rambling, mumbling stooge is the BEST they could do?
What would it take?
You simply cannot take “orange man bad” as an answer, can you?
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I get it. You are more liberal than most around here. I myself have some libertarian leanings.
However, hyperbolic rhetoric doesn’t win hearts and minds.
Same goes for K’s rambling meanderings.
when I take those political tests, it always comes up Libertarian. And I think that is what Trump is, at heart.
I don’t plan to ever vote third party, again. I wasted my votes on Perot. I consider going with “the lesser of two evils” theory as viable for any number of things. It’s realistic in life and it can contribute to making things better than the would be without it.
This is certainly not a lesser of two evils situation. This is a damn good president versus a turnip.
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Why is Trump too old? With age comes wisdom. As long as an old person has a highly functioning brain, shouldn’t they be even more qualified for a job that needs more thinking than physical prowess?
As Trump has stated many times, have the candidates take a test to determine their ability to process information.
I had a great grandmother that could discuss anything and show reason in all situations at the age of 99. She was slow moving, but very sharp.
Just because Biden sucks and can’t mentally function, does not mean both candidates are too old. That’s all we are hearing after the debate, “They both suck/too old”.
Convenient position when it’s really only your guy that can’t function.
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when I take those political tests, it always comes up Libertarian. And I think that is what Trump is, at heart.
I don’t plan to ever vote third party, again. I wasted my votes on Perot. I consider going with “the lesser of two evils” theory as viable for any number of things. It’s realistic in life and it can contribute to making things better than the would be without it.
This is certainly not a lesser of two evils situation. This is a damn good president versus a turnip.
Trump flies by the seat of his pants. He might have a hint of pragmatism in him but he's probably best at grabbing another's idea and applying it, making it his own.
We know his background in politics and I don't see enough discipline in him to be a Libertarian.
I'm definitely in favor of Trump being President again hopefully without a pandemic to which he felt compelled to place his trust in someone like Fauci.
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Why is Trump too old? With age comes wisdom. As long as an old person has a highly functioning brain, shouldn’t they be even more qualified for a job that needs more thinking than physical prowess?
As Trump has stated many times, have the candidates take a test to determine their ability to process information.
I had a great grandmother that could discuss anything and show reason in all situations at the age of 99. She was slow moving, but very sharp.
Just because Biden sucks and can’t mentally function, does not mean both candidates are too old. That’s all we are hearing after the debate, “They both suck/too old”.
Convenient position when it’s really only your guy that can’t function.
When we talk world stage I want someone that isn't afraid to step on toes.
So what if he's Rodney Dangerfield with an agenda?
This club ain't running on good will and proper etiquette. Pony up bitches!
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Trump flies by the seat of his pants. He might have a hint of pragmatism in him but he's probably best at grabbing another's idea and applying it, making it his own.
He’s best at grabbing them right by the pussy. And much better than this senile idiot. I thought this was AI when I first saw it. Check out the baby sitter’s face when he went into the dog face pony soldier bullshit. Again. https://www.google.com/search?q=biden+post+debate+apeech&client=safari&sca_esv=e161847195a35ae3&channel=iphone_bm&source=hp&ei=V3F_ZrPwIL-ZwbkP3fmLkAQ&oq=biden+post+debate+apeech&gs_lp=EhFtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1ocCIYYmlkZW4gcG9zdCBkZWJhdGUgYXBlZWNoSOpdUKcIWNFacAJ4AJABAJgBnQGgAbgTqgEFMTAuMTS4AQPIAQD4AQGYAgugAt4HqAIawgICECnCAgsQKRiABBjRAxjHAcICBRApGIAEwgIQEAAYAxjlAhjqAhiMAxiPAcICEBAuGAMY5QIY6gIYjAMYjwHCAg4QLhiABBixAxiDARiKBcICCBAAGIAEGLEDwgIREC4YgAQYsQMY0QMYgwEYxwHCAg4QABiABBixAxiDARiKBcICCxAuGIAEGLEDGIMBwgIOEC4YgAQYsQMY0QMYxwHCAgsQLhiABBjHARivAcICDhAuGIAEGLEDGIMBGNQCwgILEAAYgAQYsQMYgwHCAg4QLhiABBixAxiDARjJA8ICBRAhGKABmAMYkgcDNy40oAeTPQ&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-hp#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:1c9e65fd,vid:31uXekELv7I,st:0
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Why is Trump too old? With age comes wisdom. As long as an old person has a highly functioning brain, shouldn’t they be even more qualified for a job that needs more thinking than physical prowess?
As Trump has stated many times, have the candidates take a test to determine their ability to process information.
I had a great grandmother that could discuss anything and show reason in all situations at the age of 99. She was slow moving, but very sharp.
Just because Biden sucks and can’t mentally function, does not mean both candidates are too old. That’s all we are hearing after the debate, “They both suck/too old”.
Convenient position when it’s really only your guy that can’t function.
I didn’t read much of your post but Snags is old and he’s a fucking idiot.
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I didn’t read much of your post but Snags is old and he’s a fucking idiot.
Hoard my beaver.