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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Kaos on December 06, 2020, 09:42:48 AM
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I have purposely (and enjoyably) avoided all things AU football related this season. "Tiresome" or not, it was my personal protest against what I've seen AU become over the last decade or so. First year in my entire life (as far as I can remember, at least) that there won't be anything Auburn related under my Christmas tree. That's what the mind-numbing ineptitude of Gus Malzahn and the overall bullshit "wokeness" that's infecting the campus has done to me. It destroyed my willingness to care. It doused the passion I once held for that place, our colors and what it meant to be an "Auburn man." There was a time not so long ago that I would have believed that impossible.
So yesterday -- basically unaware that the season was still going -- I was out shopping with the fams and went to out to eat. The place they selected was filled with enormous televisions all tuned into the buffoonery that is currently Auburn football. It was impossible to avoid. And what I saw on the screen was the same chucklehead bullshit I've seen season after season with Malzahn.
Auburn is where quarterbacks go to die. Bo Nix is terrible. Not because he doesn't have a great arm, good wheels and a passion for the game. No doubt in my mind the kid wants to win, wants to be great, wants to write his name in Auburn legend. He never will. He's terrible because the coaching he's receiving is third-rate at best. Mac Jones doesn't have half the natural ability Nix does, but he is being taught how to play the game .Bo simply isn't. What's being done to him is criminal.
The receivers are talented, but the routes they run are shoddy. We can't keep a tailback healthy for an entire season. Nobody ever comes to Auburn and gets better.
Later, as I sat with a shellshocked LSU fan as the dumpster fire that is her program got raped by the Steroid Sabans, I was treated to a review of the high(low)lights in review. It was worse than I imagined.
Gus Malzahn is what they said he was. He's a high school coach, in over his head, with a staff (save Kevin Steele) of people who should be coaching at the high school level.
The evidence is clear and incontrovertible. He's never going to figure it out. This is who he will always be until and unless he gets thrown out on his ass and has to start over and learn somewhere else.
Watching that yesterday was sort of like running across an old girlfriend and discovering she's still working at Chick Fil A, has gotten fat and greasy and is dating the manager at Waffle House now. She's the same "never-gonna-go-anywhere" small town girl she was when you knew her in high school. She's never going to be anything different.
Seven straight four-plus loss seasons. That's what I heard Gus has given Auburn. Merry Christmas.
I'm perfectly content with leaving Auburn and Auburn football in my past unless something changes. I think it's going to have to be more than just the football coach, though. He's just a symptom of the overall decay. But he's got to go or he's going to wreck the program.
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He’s a less qualified less experienced version of barfield but with an easier schedule to navigate on an annual basis.
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an easier schedule to navigate on an annual basis.
Say what?
I'm not necessarily defending Gus, but this is ludicrous.
The current state of college football, the SEC and specifically the SECW is light years beyond whatever bullshit Barfield faced.
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Say what?
I'm not necessarily defending Gus, but this is ludicrous.
The current state of college football, the SEC and specifically the SECW is light years beyond whatever bullshit Barfield faced.
O. K.
The automatic 2-4 cupcakes are a thing of modern cfb history. Yeah we know - we keep saying the same stuff over and over. We got the message the last ten times you said it.
What you saw this year was gus without the cupcake padding. We should be 4-5 going into a game that is totally losable. That’s Gus. That’s barfield. Seriously. It may not be a convenient thing to think but look at barfields last 3 seasons schedules and Gus’ this year. Hint: they’re very comparable. Barfield was a slightly above .500 coach playing schedules with no cupcakes. That’s what Gus will be this year. The out of conf games we played in the late 70s and 80s were way different than now. Ranked wake forest. Good tech teams. Va tech. Miami. Maryland with boomer. Texas. Aggie. Fsu and on and on. None of this directional Louisiana or Illinois crap. Or hbcu schools getting a quick check.
And it’s not the losses to Bama. Georgia. Or even lsu or Florida. It’s the losses to bad tenn and sc teams. And a shoulda loss to Arkansas. Sorry dude but when you take away the smoke n mirrors and cupcake padding the dude is no better than barfield aside from the occasional rabbit from the ass he would pull off by virtue of perfect storm scenarios.
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The global answer is "No" and always will be because too many people who "love" Auburn pull strings and try to copy what they think the other side is doing. It'll never change. 2010 was luck. So was 2013. It inflated expectations to the point that they are unsustainable. The PTB will eventually can Gus but they'll screw up the next hire. Before you know it, Auburn will be just like Tennessee and Florida State - a dead, lifeless, hull of what used to be. Accept this and let go of dreams of Auburn success and you'll be much happier.
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But in a normal year, 6-4 is a solid record. Just ask the man himself.
You know...the year where we get at 2-3 automatic wins? I gotta admit, I thought a 2-6 or a 3-5 conference record was bad until Gus explained it so eloquently.
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The global answer is "No" and always will be because too many people who "love" Auburn pull strings and try to copy what they think the other side is doing. It'll never change. 2010 was luck. So was 2013. It inflated expectations to the point that they are unsustainable. The PTB will eventually can Gus but they'll screw up the next hire. Before you know it, Auburn will be just like Tennessee and Florida State - a dead, lifeless, hull of what used to be. Accept this and let go of dreams of Auburn success and you'll be much happier.
So is the problem the administrations of AU/UT/FSU...
Or is it a systemic problem where Bama/OSU/Clemson have cornered the market (legitimately or ill-) and are so far ahead no one can catch them?
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O. K.
The automatic 2-4 cupcakes are a thing of modern cfb history. Yeah we know - we keep saying the same stuff over and over. We got the message the last ten times you said it.
What you saw this year was gus without the cupcake padding. We should be 4-5 going into a game that is totally losable. That’s Gus. That’s barfield. Seriously. It may not be a convenient thing to think but look at barfields last 3 seasons schedules and Gus’ this year. Hint: they’re very comparable. Barfield was a slightly above .500 coach playing schedules with no cupcakes. That’s what Gus will be this year. The out of conf games we played in the late 70s and 80s were way different than now. Ranked wake forest. Good tech teams. Va tech. Miami. Maryland with boomer. Texas. Aggie. Fsu and on and on. None of this directional Louisiana or Illinois crap. Or hbcu schools getting a quick check.
And it’s not the losses to Bama. Georgia. Or even lsu or Florida. It’s the losses to bad tenn and sc teams. And a shoulda loss to Arkansas. Sorry dude but when you take away the smoke n mirrors and cupcake padding the dude is no better than barfield aside from the occasional rabbit from the ass he would pull off by virtue of perfect storm scenarios.
This is a very valid comparison.
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So is the problem the administrations of AU/UT/FSU...
Or is it a systemic problem where Bama/OSU/Clemson have cornered the market (legitimately or ill-) and are so far ahead no one can catch them?
I have zero doubt that the NCAA knows/thinks that having certain programs remain at the elite level is a good thing for the big picture ($$$$) of college football. It's parity at the top for a select few and there are no Sheriffs patrolling those athletic departments.
In answer to the comment above of 2010 being "luck" and creating unsustainable expectations, I disagree wholeheartedly with that. 2013, I can get on board with. That wasn't the most talented team in the world, but they got a on a roll with a special combination of players. As for 2010, everyone points to Cam being the sole reason for their success. Not even close. Without one of the best, most experienced lines in college football, that team doesn't sniff of a conference, much less a Natty Championship. Nor do they sniff of it without a senior laden front 7 on D and the most disruptive player in the game in Nick Unfairly. That team was stacked and deserved the ring.
With regard to expectations, I truly believe Auburn fans are as reasonable as they come, overall. As I said above, 2013 was a team that got serious momentum with a special combination of players in Marshall, Mason etc. What it did reaffirm was that between the 2010 and 2013 seasons, Auburn is and always has been a program that can put teams on the field that can compete on the national level. I don't think AU fans expect to be in the playoffs every year, but I do believe we should expect to compete for conference championships on a consistent basis. 4-6 losses a year never has and never will do that. I can take a down year or two, but to go into each and every year knowing you're going to drop that many games given the tradition, facilities, support etc. is simply unacceptable. We're now at 7 straight years of that.
I'll also agree with the above, and have said many times, I don't trust anyone in power to make the right decision in hiring the next corch if they do in fact, let Gus go. But it's to the point of no other choice. They have to try.
As for letting all this go....hell no. Unless they quit on us, I will never stop watching, supporting, being invested in and wanting the best for this program.
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As for letting all this go....hell no. Unless they quit on us, I will never stop watching, supporting, being invested in and wanting the best for this program.
I'm with ya, leather.
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So is the problem the administrations of AU/UT/FSU...
Or is it a systemic problem where Bama/OSU/Clemson have cornered the market (legitimately or ill-) and are so far ahead no one can catch them?
Both are true, Gateway.
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Both are true, Gateway.
If so, then no matter the hire we're fucked forever.
Or at least until there is some shake up at Bama/Clem/OSU.
Sweet.
Might as well sit back and enjoy the football. Let go of your expectations and enjoy the ride.
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As for letting all this go....hell no. Unless they quit on us, I will never stop watching, supporting, being invested in and wanting the best for this program.
See that's where you and I diverge.
From my perspective, AU has given up on me. Not the players. But Auburn itself. All the things we say we are have been demolished in an arms race and slathered in smarm. Giant TVs? Rap music that drowns out the band (constantly)? The spectacular bonanza of colors, flags, and personal spreads set up all over campus by families (many of whom had been coming to that same spot for decades) replaced by the bland monotony of white corporate tents? Things that used to be spontaneous and organically-driven have been replaced by colorless, pseudo-emotional drone. Everything Auburn does has become a Hallmark movie. Nice to look at but completely and utterly predictable, drained of all authenticity by a paint-by-numbers canvas. It has all the spark and resonance of the snow-dappled passionless mashing of faces between the (almost always gay in real life) sweater-wearing reindeer barber who captures the heart of the city girl at the end of every one of those Hallmark classics.
I tolerated all that. I railed against it, but I tolerated it. But when Gus waddled his big man tits down the street raising his fist for Black Lives Matter -- a movement he clearly didn't research or understand -- in an effort to appear more "woke"? Fuck. All. That. Noise.
BLM stands in opposition to almost every single fragment of the Auburn Creed. You know, the thing we laugh at people for adhering to when it's convenient for them, but that thing that actually sort of matters in the way you're supposed to carry yourself.
That was the last straw for me. Masked titty man, tromping down the street was the final erasure mark in removing everything that (in my mind) made Auburn, Auburn.
I didn't leave them, Snags. They. Left. Me. And they don't care. I can't keep loving something that doesn't love me back. Tried that before and it always ends badly.
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If so, then no matter the hire we're fucked forever.
Or at least until there is some shake up at Bama/Clem/OSU.
Sweet.
Might as well sit back and enjoy the football. Let go of your expectations and enjoy the ride.
Please explain what in the fucking fucktiy fuck there is to enjoy about massive incompetence, squandered talent, clueless ineptitude, utter fucktardation and a litany of well-rehearsed platitudes about "getting better"?
I'm honestly curious what joy anyone of sound mind could possibly derive from that.
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Please explain what in the fucking fucktiy fuck there is to enjoy about massive incompetence, squandered talent, clueless ineptitude, utter fucktardation and a litany of well-rehearsed platitudes about "getting better"?
I'm honestly curious what joy anyone of sound mind could possibly derive from that.
I still enjoy the game.
I get excited when the RBs break a long one.
I hold my breath on the long bomb throws whether we're on O or D.
If championships are the only measuring stick, then congrats: you've completed your turn to bama-esque fandom.
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I still enjoy the game.
I get excited when the RBs break a long one.
I hold my breath on the long bomb throws whether we're on O or D.
If championships are the only measuring stick, then congrats: you've completed your turn to bama-esque fandom.
You know less than Jon Snow.
I could give a shit about championships. They're fun. I enjoyed the hell out of 2010. I enjoyed every moment of 2004. And 1983. But they don't mean dick in terms of my interest in or enjoyment of the game. Truth be told, after you get over the hurt some of the losses are memories I treasure. Losing to Georgia early in Dye's tenure, but knowing that I'd seen a team that was on the verge of kicking some ass down the road? Love that as much as any win ever. There are a lot of those stored away where I loved the team for what it gave us, even if the final score didn't show it. The preparation. The heart. The tenacity.
I care about how Auburn plays. Pat Dye's teams lost a lot of games, but I knew that even in defeat those guys were getting better, they were becoming men. They'd learn from it. Now, we look like a pack of bumbling idiots half the time. Did you see the fourth quarter offensive stats for this team? It was like seven plays, three yards or some disgraceful shit like that. That's untenable. It's unbearable. It's NOT how an Auburn team plays.
What happened when Auburn went to the Cotton Bowl in 1985 and laid a putrid egg against Texas A&M with Bo in the backfield? I doubt you remember Pat Dye had a personal come-to-Jesus moment. He recommitted himself and if you weren't with him you were against him. Tell me about the next few years? 39 wins over four seasons against a schedule that would have Gus sucking his own giant boob in the corner. None of those teams won a championship, but that still remains probably the greatest AU era of my lifetime. Those guys played like men.
Do you have any faith in Gus to yank his head out of his butt and recommit himself? Change things up? Why would you? He's been running this same exact offense since he was coaching in high school. Hasn't changed anything. What about Dye? Ran the wishbone. Ran the I. Ran a pro-style when Stan came along. Could Gus do that?
I know you don't like Gus. Why accept this?
Why would you get excited when the RB breaks a run knowing that Gus is either going to a) do that same thing the next 43 plays until the poor kid breaks in half or B) never return to that play again?
Why would you hold your breath when the ball is in the air? Oh, I know. Because our QB threw the ball off his back foot across his body and it's a fucking jump ball. I've seen that for about a decade now. No suspense there.
Fuck a championship. All I want is competitive. And as long as Gus is there, that's not part of the equation. Not willing to endure that. You shouldn't be either.
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You know less than Jon Snow.
I could give a shit about championships. They're fun. I enjoyed the hell out of 2010. I enjoyed every moment of 2004. And 1983. But they don't mean dick in terms of my interest in or enjoyment of the game. Truth be told, after you get over the hurt some of the losses are memories I treasure. Losing to Georgia early in Dye's tenure, but knowing that I'd seen a team that was on the verge of kicking some ass down the road? Love that as much as any win ever. There are a lot of those stored away where I loved the team for what it gave us, even if the final score didn't show it. The preparation. The heart. The tenacity.
I care about how Auburn plays. Pat Dye's teams lost a lot of games, but I knew that even in defeat those guys were getting better, they were becoming men. They'd learn from it. Now, we look like a pack of bumbling idiots half the time. Did you see the fourth quarter offensive stats for this team? It was like seven plays, three yards or some disgraceful shit like that. That's untenable. It's unbearable. It's NOT how an Auburn team plays.
What happened when Auburn went to the Cotton Bowl in 1985 and laid a putrid egg against Texas A&M with Bo in the backfield? I doubt you remember Pat Dye had a personal come-to-Jesus moment. He recommitted himself and if you weren't with him you were against him. Tell me about the next few years? 39 wins over four seasons against a schedule that would have Gus sucking his own giant boob in the corner. None of those teams won a championship, but that still remains probably the greatest AU era of my lifetime. Those guys played like men.
Do you have any faith in Gus to yank his head out of his butt and recommit himself? Change things up? Why would you? He's been running this same exact offense since he was coaching in high school. Hasn't changed anything. What about Dye? Ran the wishbone. Ran the I. Ran a pro-style when Stan came along. Could Gus do that?
I know you don't like Gus. Why accept this?
Why would you get excited when the RB breaks a run knowing that Gus is either going to a) do that same thing the next 43 plays until the poor kid breaks in half or B) never return to that play again?
Why would you hold your breath when the ball is in the air? Oh, I know. Because our QB threw the ball off his back foot across his body and it's a fucking jump ball. I've seen that for about a decade now. No suspense there.
Fuck a championship. All I want is competitive. And as long as Gus is there, that's not part of the equation. Not willing to endure that. You shouldn't be either.
Well, my choices are: give up watching football or find my joy where I can.
The rest is out of my hands.
So, rage on, Spartacus. I'm still riding with my team.
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Well, my choices are: give up watching football or find my joy where I can.
Find joy away from it.
And it's not out of your hands. If you don't walk away, if you don't somehow express your distaste for what you see? Then you're complicit in it never getting better. Why should they change anything if people still pay?
You can either bitch and do nothing (getting the same results that caused you to bitch) or you can draw a line in the sand.
I drew mine.
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Find joy away from it.
And it's not out of your hands. If you don't walk away, if you don't somehow express your distaste for what you see? Then you're complicit in it never getting better. Why should they change anything if people still pay?
You can either bitch and do nothing (getting the same results that caused you to bitch) or you can draw a line in the sand.
I drew mine.
I got joy fallin out my ass.
I don't buy tix from the school, or otherwise contribute in any meaningful way. I've come to hate the stadium experience as compared to my home setup, so they're not even getting concessions out of me. I borrow login credentials to view the games, so I'm not even contributing to the TV revenue.
So, Imma watch football. I will cheer at the successes and cuss the failures. I still love football.
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I got joy fallin out my ass.
I don't buy tix from the school, or otherwise contribute in any meaningful way. I've come to hate the stadium experience as compared to my home setup, so they're not even getting concessions out of me. I borrow login credentials to view the games, so I'm not even contributing to the TV revenue.
So, Imma watch football. I will cheer at the successes and cuss the failures. I still love football.
Dude. Sling and Hulu are like 50 a month. Cheapskate.
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Dude. Sling and Hulu are like 50 a month. Cheapskate.
That’s $600 a year for 10-13 games. I think Wes has it figured out.
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Well, my choices are: give up watching football or find my joy where I can.
The rest is out of my hands.
So, rage on, Spartacus. I'm still riding with my team.
Wurd!!! It ain’t complicated. You love watching the game or not. That simple. I love all things Auburn, all things ATL and occasionally my Dookies. If you don’t want to watch....bye Felicia. Don’t try and convince me why I shouldn’t.
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all things ATL
WHO DAT?!
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Wurd!!! It ain’t complicated. You love watching the game or not. That simple. I love all things Auburn, all things ATL and occasionally my Dookies. If you don’t want to watch....bye Felicia. Don’t try and convince me why I shouldn’t.
It’s my job.
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It’s my job.
Well, then, you're fired.
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I got joy fallin out my ass.
I don't buy tix from the school, or otherwise contribute in any meaningful way. I've come to hate the stadium experience as compared to my home setup, so they're not even getting concessions out of me. I borrow login credentials to view the games, so I'm not even contributing to the TV revenue.
So, Imma watch football. I will cheer at the successes and cuss the failures. I still love football.
Why do you hate Allen Greene?
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WHO DAT?!
Dirty bastage!
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Well, then, you're fired.
Nope. You can't fire a volunteer.
Besides that....
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Nope. You can't fire a volunteer.
Besides that....
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You and Chizik, huh? Glad to see you've come around on him.
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Wurd!!! It ain’t complicated. You love watching the game or not. That simple. I love all things Auburn, all things ATL and occasionally my Dookies. If you don’t want to watch....bye Felicia. Don’t try and convince me why I shouldn’t.
I did watch Coastal and BYU Sat evening...because it was fun. Right now there is no joy in watching Auburn.....or Alabama (for a different reason than Auburn), although I caught a quarter of Devante Smith ass raping LSU's corners which was something to behold really, i'll admit.
Most games just aren't fun to watch anymore. Call it the Saban and Meyer effect I guess. NFL light.,..robotic...a business, however we wanna phrase it....Ohio State, USC, Texas, ND, Bama, even Clemson to a degree (although they seem to be having fun most of the time) - are just these pro like, business environments. Very different reason that they are unwatchable than Auburn. Our tigers are painful to watch. The ineptness that's as a clear as day.
The emergence of the lesser knowns this year is one silver lining I guess....because they are sound, and are a joy to watch really comparably. BYU, CC, Louisiana, Indiana, Liberty, among others. Maybe they play like they have nothing to lose because....they have nothing to lose. I dunno....but they're entertaining.
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I did watch Coastal and BYU Sat evening...because it was fun. Right now there is no joy in watching Auburn.....or Alabama (for a different reason than Auburn), although I caught a quarter of Devante Smith ass raping LSU's corners which was something to behold really, i'll admit.
Having been forced to watch more of LSU than I'm comfortable with this season I can tell you with no hesitation that while a portion of that was Smith's talent, a near equal portion is the piss poor coaching the LSU secondary is getting.
Can't tell you how many times this season I've seen a bengal corner let a guy go by because he assumed (rightfully) he'd have help over the top. Help never materialized. It was almost like the secondary was running two competing and diametrically opposed schemes at the same time. And that was only one problem. LSU's secondary is shiiitte. It never got any better from the MSU loss forward.
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Having been forced to watch more of LSU than I'm comfortable with this season I can tell you with no hesitation that while a portion of that was Smith's talent, a near equal portion is the piss poor coaching the LSU secondary is getting.
Can't tell you how many times this season I've seen a bengal corner let a guy go by because he assumed (rightfully) he'd have help over the top. Help never materialized. It was almost like the secondary was running two competing and diametrically opposed schemes at the same time. And that was only one problem. LSU's secondary is shiiitte. It never got any better from the MSU loss forward.
You won’t watch Auburn but you watch LSU?
Disappointing.
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That’s $600 a year for 10-13 games. I think Wes has it figured out.
I hope to Heysus that's not all someone watches when subscribing to those services.
See the Pandemic Viewing thread.
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DeVonte Smith is just a bad ass. Dude is going to make serious bank next year. I know that whole offense is a bunch of 5 star guys and it's a little easier to execute when you know everything is going to go right. But you still have to get behind the coverage with route running and sheer talent. It's like every time Jones lets one go deep, you know when the camera pans to the receiver, Smith will be 3 yards behind the DB.
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DeVonte Smith is just a bad ass. Dude is going to make serious bank next year. I know that whole offense is a bunch of 5 star guys and it's a little easier to execute when you know everything is going to go right. But you still have to get behind the coverage with route running and sheer talent. It's like every time Jones lets one go deep, you know when the camera pans to the receiver, Smith will be 3 yards behind the DB.
He's seriously one of the best route runners I've ever seen. He had damn near 300 yards receiving at the half. I couldn't do that in my backyard playing catch with you...,mainly because your arm just aint what it used to be. But somewhat because 300 yards is a lot in what equates to 15 mins of action. The way he turned on the routes and got behind the defense was text book. No offense to Jeudy, Ruggs or Waddle but this dude is the deal.
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He's seriously one of the best route runners I've ever seen. He had damn near 300 yards receiving at the half. I couldn't do that in my backyard playing catch with you...,mainly because your arm just aint what it used to be. But somewhat because 300 yards is a lot in what equates to 15 mins of action. The way he turned on the routes and got behind the defense was text book. No offense to Jeudy, Ruggs or Waddle but this dude is the deal.
How much you wanna make a bet I can throw a football over them mountains?... Yeah... Coach woulda put me in fourth quarter, we would've been state champions. No doubt. No doubt in my mind.
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DeVonte Smith is just a bad ass. Dude is going to make serious bank next year. I know that whole offense is a bunch of 5 star guys and it's a little easier to execute when you know everything is going to go right. But you still have to get behind the coverage with route running and sheer talent. It's like every time Jones lets one go deep, you know when the camera pans to the receiver, Smith will be 3 yards behind the DB.
Our badass runs fake sweeps 90% of the time...
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Our badass runs fake sweeps 90% of the time...
Truth. And the first two offensive plays this past Saturday were typical of how he's misused. Two consecutive sideways throws. (I believe they were both to AS, frick me if I'm wrong)
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Truth. And the first two offensive plays this past Saturday were typical of how he's misused. Two consecutive sideways throws. (I believe they were both to AS, frick me if I'm wrong)
You're not wrong.
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DeVonte Smith is just a bad ass. Dude is going to make serious bank next year. I know that whole offense is a bunch of 5 star guys and it's a little easier to execute when you know everything is going to go right. But you still have to get behind the coverage with route running and sheer talent. It's like every time Jones lets one go deep, you know when the camera pans to the receiver, Smith will be 3 yards behind the DB.
I know. I know. But go to YouTubes and watch the LSU Dbs. It wasn't just great route running it was appallingly awful coverage schemes, technique, etc.
I also know that this cat would be even more "bad ass" with coaching from Kodi Burns.
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Truth. And the first two offensive plays this past Saturday were typical of how he's misused. Two consecutive sideways throws. (I believe they were both to AS, frick me if I'm wrong)
And you haven't seen enough?
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Truth. And the first two offensive plays this past Saturday were typical of how he's misused. Two consecutive sideways throws. (I believe they were both to AS, frick me if I'm wrong)
There should be a minimum of four deep balls to him each game. He would need an assistant just to follow him around and carry his tongue if it were me!
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There should be a minimum of four deep balls to him each game. He would need an assistant just to follow him around and carry his tongue if it were me!
To me, it's a matter of getting him the ball while he's at or near full speed. Yes, the deep balls, but also slants and drag routes where he's already accelerated and someone has to keep up with him. Throwing bubble screens and whatever the sam hill that second pass out to the side was, pretty much negates his speed. I hate those passes, but if you're going to throw them, Stove seems to be your guy. He has a knack for making people miss and getting that extra few yards.
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If so, then no matter the hire we're fudgeed forever.
Or at least until there is some shake up at Bama/Clem/OSU.
Sweet.
Might as well sit back and enjoy the football. Let go of your expectations and enjoy the ride.
See, you get it. You have healthy expectations for this squad. Welcome to the "Sensible" side of the fanbase. Our cookies are chewy, but they are still cookies. :bar:
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See, you get it. You have healthy expectations for this squad. Welcome to the "Sensible" side of the fanbase. Our cookies are chewy, but they are still cookies. :bar:
It's basically where I've been since Saban got his machine rolling in Tuscaloosa.
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It's basically where I've been since Saban got his machine rolling in Tuscaloosa.
There is some joy in knowing Saban has made Alabama fans incredibly miserable even when they win everything because they didn't do it perfectly. That's gotta suck.
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See, you get it. You have healthy expectations for this squad. Welcome to the "Sensible" side of the fanbase. Our cookies are chewy, but they are still cookies. :bar:
I feel like not expecting to see 22 retards trying to fuck a football against teams they should overmatch like USCe and Arkansas is pretty sensible.
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Against my better judgment, I watched last night. Speculative rumor that it might be the last game for manboob, so I figured I might as well take it in.
Seeing it in person was FAR worse than what I had imagined it might be.
Nobody needs to hear it, but that was as dysfunctional a football team as I've ever seen.
Nix has regressed. Significantly. It's the Gus effect. Name a single quarterback -- one -- that has improved under Gus. There isn't one. Nix has become a bitch. An unlikeable, unliked bitch who over-estimates his own talent. Physically, he's as gifted as any other QB in the SEC and maybe more so. But he's either unable to be coached or (most likely) uncoached. Why most likely? See Stidham, Johnson, Khalil, Kodi, etc. etc. etc. etc.
There's no class on display. Playing an awful Mississippi State team that had no reason to exist and they are jumping around, jawing and acting like clowns throughout.
Disgusting. The whole episode was disgusting.
I don't hate Gus as a person. I think he's probably a good man. But he doesn't know how to do this $49 million job. If you give me 1/3 of his salary I could give you the same results he's getting. I think I could hire better assistants, though, so it might even be better.
I hope he ends up somewhere like South Alabama or Southern Miss where he can learn how to be a coach. But I've seen more than enough.
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Against my better judgment, I watched last night. Speculative rumor that it might be the last game for manboob, so I figured I might as well take it in.
Seeing it in person was FAR worse than what I had imagined it might be.
Nobody needs to hear it, but that was as dysfunctional a football team as I've ever seen.
Nix has regressed. Significantly. It's the Gus effect. Name a single quarterback -- one -- that has improved under Gus. There isn't one. Nix has become a bitch. An unlikeable, unliked bitch who over-estimates his own talent. Physically, he's as gifted as any other QB in the SEC and maybe more so. But he's either unable to be coached or (most likely) uncoached. Why most likely? See Stidham, Johnson, Khalil, Kodi, etc. etc. etc. etc.
There's no class on display. Playing an awful Mississippi State team that had no reason to exist and they are jumping around, jawing and acting like clowns throughout.
Disgusting. The whole episode was disgusting.
I don't hate Gus as a person. I think he's probably a good man. But he doesn't know how to do this $49 million job. If you give me 1/3 of his salary I could give you the same results he's getting. I think I could hire better assistants, though, so it might even be better.
I hope he ends up somewhere like South Alabama or Southern Miss where he can learn how to be a coach. But I've seen more than enough.
Yeah same. I know a couple of the scuffles were defending teammates esp the Schwartz/Stove thing but there was a ton of thug like antics and undisciplined behavior. That’s not us. I felt like our guys stooped to the level of miss state. There was no excuse for a team like miss state to hang with auburn for 3.5 quarters. I don’t gaf if they did it with uga too.
- Gus is a good guy. He really is. He’s just not cut out for the meat grinder that is a major power 5 program. I don’t wish him any ill will and I hope he can go somewhere and do ok. But it’s obvious he will never be the caliber of coach to lead a program of this magnitude.
- I do not like the attitude of this team. That starts with nix and Seth. I saw others acting this way as well last night. Even Schwartz lost his composure. Many would argue it was justified and maybe it was. Mccreary too. But it just reminded me a hair of chiziks last team in 2012. The attitude issues. Not. A. Fan.
- Gus’ lockerroom dance shouldn’t change anything. Last nights win should not change anything. In regards to his job severity. But it may. That’s a shame. People that get caught up in one damn moment. One damn game.
- in his defense, none of Gus’ lackings as a big time coach should take away the magic he had with cam or nick. Right coach/qb combo at the right time. He gave us several great memories/games. For that I’m grateful to him. Hes ran an honest program. He’s generally a likeable guy. Players generally like him. He checks off every box except the actually coaching aspect and player dev. I’ll give him credit where due even though I generally have been underwhelmed by his ebb n flow mediocrity.
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He gone!!
https://es.pn/2WczdE8 (https://es.pn/2WczdE8)
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According to the ESPNs, our beloved coarch Gustavo has been fired. Christmas has come early.
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Wow
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Wow
What's "wow"?
Gus is essentially our Mike Shula. Good guy, not ready for the job. Looked clueless a lot of the time. Given a healthy contract based off a knee jerk reaction to some moderate success.
Results over time weren't bad per-se, but there was a numbing mediocrity to it. Fans had started to get apathetic because his program didn't stir them. Time to cut bait or cut fish or whatever.
Same.
Why you "wow"?
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What's "wow"?
Gus is essentially our Mike Shula. Good guy, not ready for the job. Looked clueless a lot of the time. Given a healthy contract based off a knee jerk reaction to some moderate success.
Results over time weren't bad per-se, but there was a numbing mediocrity to it. Fans had started to get apathetic because his program didn't stir them. Time to cut bait or cut fish or whatever.
Same.
Why you "wow"?
cubelic mentioned this on finebaum too. The apathy is actually more alarming than if fans were calling in irate. Means the fanbase just doesn’t care as much. That is bad. You cannot lose recruits and lose your fanbase. Next would have been the lockerroom. You can see the trajectory that was occurring.
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What's "wow"?
Gus is essentially our Mike Shula. Good guy, not ready for the job. Looked clueless a lot of the time. Given a healthy contract based off a knee jerk reaction to some moderate success.
Results over time weren't bad per-se, but there was a numbing mediocrity to it. Fans had started to get apathetic because his program didn't stir them. Time to cut bait or cut fish or whatever.
Same.
Why you "wow"?
The wow is they actually got rid of him. He more than earned just surprised it happened and that it happened this quickly.
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The wow is they actually got rid of him. He more than earned just surprised it happened and that it happened this quickly.
He was not Allen Greene’s doing therefore that may have given Greene more leverage. I dunno. Just a theory. I have issues with Greene but not the same ones as Jacobs. I have to also think it’s no longer Harbert running the show over there. I used to get info on these things when lowder was still there but I have no idea other than Harbert and mcwhorter were Gus protestors and Rane has been a stoops guy for a while.
the buyout was never an issue. Rane and Harbert are technically the states only two billionaire residents at 1.1b and 6.6b respectively.
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Hearing the decision to fire Gus was made by the PTB before last night and the game outcome made no difference. Also hearing Hugh Freeze is the guy and they are just waiting for his COVID clearance.
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Hearing the decision to fire Gus was made by the PTB before last night and the game outcome made no difference. Also hearing Hugh Freeze is the guy and they are just waiting for his COVID clearance.
Great. Let’s leave the Lusitania and swim over to the Titanic.
Would be the worst hire in the history of the program. This kind of idiocy might push me over the edge permanently.
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Great. Let’s leave the Lusitania and swim over to the Titanic.
Would be the worst hire in the history of the program. This kind of idiocy might push me over the edge permanently.
even worse is now Steele is getting a ton Of chatter by the 247 auburn mods.
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even worse is now Steele is getting a ton Of chatter by the 247 auburn mods.
I could actually get onboard with this. You don't give him the farm but you give him a respectable 5 year contract and turn him loose. See where he stands after 2 years and go from there.
For whatever reason we have always been more successful long term with defensive minded corches.
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I could actually get onboard with this. You don't give him the farm but you give him a respectable 5 year contract and turn him loose. See where he stands after 2 years and go from there.
For whatever reason we have always been more successful long term with defensive minded corches.
100% behind Sani, I mean...this idea.
I think he deserves a shot, he can probably help with recruiting and will cost a lot less to give him a shot.
I actually think one of the guys on Kaos’ list is dead.
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Against my better judgment, I watched last night. Speculative rumor that it might be the last game for manboob, so I figured I might as well take it in.
Seeing it in person was FAR worse than what I had imagined it might be.
Nobody needs to hear it, but that was as dysfunctional a football team as I've ever seen.
Nix has regressed. Significantly. It's the Gus effect. Name a single quarterback -- one -- that has improved under Gus. There isn't one. Nix has become a bitch. An unlikeable, unliked bitch who over-estimates his own talent. Physically, he's as gifted as any other QB in the SEC and maybe more so. But he's either unable to be coached or (most likely) uncoached. Why most likely? See Stidham, Johnson, Khalil, Kodi, etc. etc. etc. etc.
There's no class on display. Playing an awful Mississippi State team that had no reason to exist and they are jumping around, jawing and acting like clowns throughout.
Disgusting. The whole episode was disgusting.
I don't hate Gus as a person. I think he's probably a good man. But he doesn't know how to do this $49 million job. If you give me 1/3 of his salary I could give you the same results he's getting. I think I could hire better assistants, though, so it might even be better.
I hope he ends up somewhere like South Alabama or Southern Miss where he can learn how to be a coach. But I've seen more than enough.
You have become so callous, I’m not sure that I even know you.
Regardless your feelings about Gus’ performance, talking about his boobs is cheap.
I know you may be joking but the man just got fired. “Oh, 21 million...blah, blah, blah..!!â€
Save it. Taxes and agent’s percentage take this down a lot closer to 15 million. Scattered, smothered, covered, chunked, diced and peppered isn’t as cheap as it was back in your day.
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I actually think one of the guys on Kaos’ list is dead.
Cross him off.
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I could actually get onboard with this. You don't give him the farm but you give him a respectable 5 year contract and turn him loose. See where he stands after 2 years and go from there.
For whatever reason we have always been more successful long term with defensive minded corches.
I just find it very head scratching that we would eat a 21M buyout for a guy that wasn't Terrible, although he was mediocre - for a guy who was a HC 20 years ago and went 9-36 (1-31 in Conf). Maybe he would do ok...I dunno. Its just quite a risky game to play. Worked for Clemson I guess with Tommy to Dabo. I see it having a slight chance IF he could be a program overseer and disciplinarian asshole like Saban and hire great assts, and let them do their jobs? Possibly. It would just be a weird situation.