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Title: The Noose and NASCAR
Post by: The Six on June 23, 2020, 09:16:34 AM
A noose was found hanging in the garage area of Bubba Wallace - NASCAR's only Black driver who rides the 43 for Richard Petty Racing.

I'm not accusing anyone of anything, but something about this just doesn't add up for me. Do you know how tightly guarded NASCAR garages are? You'd have an easier time getting on a plane wearing a tunic with a ticking sound emanating from it than to get within 100 feet of a garage without credentials.

That leaves me with two options: 1) it's an inside job, someone who has those credentials did this; 2) it's a hoax meant to drive a hot-button narrative.

I almost hate myself for thinking the latter but these days, it's very plausible.
Title: Re: The Noose and NASCAR
Post by: Snaggletiger on June 23, 2020, 09:40:00 AM
A noose was found hanging in the garage area of Bubba Wallace - NASCAR's only Black driver who rides the 43 for Richard Petty Racing.

I'm not accusing anyone of anything, but something about this just doesn't add up for me. Do you know how tightly guarded NASCAR garages are? You'd have an easier time getting on a plane wearing a tunic with a ticking sound emanating from it than to get within 100 feet of a garage without credentials.

That leaves me with two options: 1) it's an inside job, someone who has those credentials did this; 2) it's a hoax meant to drive a hot-button narrative.

I almost hate myself for thinking the latter but these days, it's very plausible.
I'm 100% certain they have cameras on those cars and garage areas 24/7.  If this happened, they know who did it.

Now, let's assume for a second that some racist, redneck yahoo actually did something this stupid.  What people fail to realize is that despite all the peaceful protests, despite all the burning and looting, despite tearing down all the monuments, despite changing the names on every building, product etc, despite taking over city blocks, despite beating and murdering innocent people......you haven't changed anyone inside.

There's always going to be hate on both sides.  There's always going to be racism in some form or fashion.  There's always going to be a Billy Bob thinking it's funny to use a noose to try and make a point with blacks.  There's always going to be the black lady I saw the other day screaming, "White people owned slaves.  Fuck em'"

And with some of the rhetoric I've been hearing the last few days, I truly believe that the only thing happening right now is battle lines are being drawn. 
Title: Re: The Noose and NASCAR
Post by: Buzz Killington on June 23, 2020, 09:59:47 AM
A noose was found hanging in the garage area of Bubba Wallace - NASCAR's only Black driver who rides the 43 for Richard Petty Racing.

I'm not accusing anyone of anything, but something about this just doesn't add up for me. Do you know how tightly guarded NASCAR garages are? You'd have an easier time getting on a plane wearing a tunic with a ticking sound emanating from it than to get within 100 feet of a garage without credentials.

That leaves me with two options: 1) it's an inside job, someone who has those credentials did this; 2) it's a hoax meant to drive a hot-button narrative.

I almost hate myself for thinking the latter but these days, it's very plausible.
Welcome to the tin foil club.  Meetings are Tuesday nights at the Sonic.
Title: Re: The Noose and NASCAR
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 23, 2020, 10:46:37 AM
I'm 100% certain they have cameras on those cars and garage areas 24/7.  If this happened, they know who did it.

Now, let's assume for a second that some racist, redneck yahoo actually did something this stupid.  What people fail to realize is that despite all the peaceful protests, despite all the burning and looting, despite tearing down all the monuments, despite changing the names on every building, product etc, despite taking over city blocks, despite beating and murdering innocent people......you haven't changed anyone inside.

There's always going to be hate on both sides.  There's always going to be racism in some form or fashion.  There's always going to be a Billy Bob thinking it's funny to use a noose to try and make a point with blacks.  There's always going to be the black lady I saw the other day screaming, "White people owned slaves.  Fuck em'"

And with some of the rhetoric I've been hearing the last few days, I truly believe that the only thing happening right now is battle lines are being drawn.
Yep. I will always hate several mother fuckers around here. In addition to Dallas.
Title: Re: The Noose and NASCAR
Post by: Kaos on June 23, 2020, 11:09:36 AM
I knew this was fake the moment it made the news.  (I'm on record, BTW).   How did I know?  Easy. 

1) Despite the stupidity of people like Justy Smollettttt and others, white folks as a rule just don't go around hanging nooses.  I've known some of the dumbest, most redneck, belligerent, unapologetic people you could ever imagine (some of them in the boardrooms of large companies and state-level offices).  None.  Not a single one. Not one of them has ever considered a noose as a method of threatening anyone.  A noose is what some assclown THINKS a white person would do when they do it themselves.  The noose narrative was false from the jump.   

2) The level of surveillance involved means that had anyone actually done this, nascar officials would have known within a matter of minutes who did it.  

It never happened.  This is a manufactured photo op for nascar to prove that they are "woke" and sympathetic to the times.  It was created to give them justifiable cover in the face of expected outrage over the banning of confederate flags.  

This will be exposed as a fake.  I've already seen the photographic evidence proving that the so-called "noose" didn't exist.  It's a fraud -- just as I knew it was. 

Here's the problem, though.   The media won't cover it, Wallace will face no punishment.  nascar will continue to celebrate its "wokeness." Everyone will know, but the thought process that will be drummed into everyone's head by the complicit media is "well, one of them racist white folks COULDA done it.  Be just like them."  

You won't see LeDumb James -- an assclown who barely graduated high school, but has the audacity to lecture anyone on a history he never bothered to study -- or Mee Maw Ivey or any of the other knee-jerk twits who fed the hysteria with their faux outrage (looking at you, Stephen A. Smith)... you won't see them apologize for painting with a broad, tar-coated brush.  

Title: Re: The Noose and NASCAR
Post by: Kaos on June 23, 2020, 11:10:50 AM
 I truly believe that the only thing happening right now is battle lines are being drawn.
Who gets to fight wes?  
Title: Re: The Noose and NASCAR
Post by: Buzz Killington on June 23, 2020, 11:53:42 AM
Who gets to fight wes? 
I just assumed it would be Vlad
Title: Re: The Noose and NASCAR
Post by: GH2001 on June 23, 2020, 11:59:00 AM
No one did "it".  There isn't an "it" 
Title: Re: The Noose and NASCAR
Post by: GH2001 on June 23, 2020, 12:01:42 PM
And as K noted, there are photographs out there now that have leaked......photos of the same garage stall last fall and yesterday morning. There was a rope alright....one with a loop on the end attached to the garage door. Just like on every stall. But the one on Stall #4 had been cut by the time the photo was taken and the FBI had arrived. 
Title: Re: The Noose and NASCAR
Post by: Snaggletiger on June 23, 2020, 12:06:17 PM
And as K noted, there are photographs out there now that have leaked......photos of the same garage stall last fall and yesterday morning. There was a rope alright....one with a loop on the end attached to the garage door. Just like on every stall. But the one on Stall #4 had been cut by the time the photo was taken and the FBI had arrived.
Well then, I think we finally have definitive proof.  Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself.
Title: Re: The Noose and NASCAR
Post by: Buzz Killington on June 23, 2020, 12:24:12 PM
Well then, I think we finally have definitive proof.  Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself.
^^^This^^^
Title: Re: The Noose and NASCAR
Post by: Vladimir on June 23, 2020, 01:25:59 PM
I just assumed it would be Vlad
I’m will fuck a man.
Title: Re: The Noose and NASCAR
Post by: Vladimir on June 23, 2020, 01:27:08 PM
MODs. Please add “up” to end of vlad above post. TIA
Title: Re: The Noose and NASCAR
Post by: The Six on June 23, 2020, 01:38:22 PM
This thread right here
https://twitter.com/TheLastRefuge2/status/1275303280890052609?s=20 (https://twitter.com/TheLastRefuge2/status/1275303280890052609?s=20)

TL;DR - NASCAR used a social movement for economic and political gain. Not the first to do it, but a really shoddy way to operate. Guess that's where we are now. Gus is marching on Toomer's, Oklahoma State's RB is the "captain now" apparently, and so on.
Title: Re: The Noose and NASCAR
Post by: Buzz Killington on June 23, 2020, 05:42:47 PM
Something how they knew last year this would be a hot button issue...
https://abc3340.com/sports/more-sports/fbi-noose-found-at-talladega-was-there-as-early-as-oct-2019?fbclid=IwAR3B5YZSxZ9wBnaTpRyXnY-EtUi09yLx2iS-G1w9POEt8IHtpOLrToWhwoo (https://abc3340.com/sports/more-sports/fbi-noose-found-at-talladega-was-there-as-early-as-oct-2019?fbclid=IwAR3B5YZSxZ9wBnaTpRyXnY-EtUi09yLx2iS-G1w9POEt8IHtpOLrToWhwoo)
Title: Re: The Noose and NASCAR
Post by: Kaos on June 23, 2020, 05:55:25 PM
Something how they knew last year this would be a hot button issue...
https://abc3340.com/sports/more-sports/fbi-noose-found-at-talladega-was-there-as-early-as-oct-2019?fbclid=IwAR3B5YZSxZ9wBnaTpRyXnY-EtUi09yLx2iS-G1w9POEt8IHtpOLrToWhwoo (https://abc3340.com/sports/more-sports/fbi-noose-found-at-talladega-was-there-as-early-as-oct-2019?fbclid=IwAR3B5YZSxZ9wBnaTpRyXnY-EtUi09yLx2iS-G1w9POEt8IHtpOLrToWhwoo)
When can we expect an apology from this dipshit?


(https://www.nydailynews.com/resizer/K6F4BuaCUHower7UAl4v3YBecr8=/1400x0/top/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com/public/V4HBSIMOYGMSBL66QXWGL3P3YY.jpg)

Or this moron asshole?


(https://d2d0b2rxqzh1q5.cloudfront.net/sv/2.183/dir/0a1/image/0a1232ca458d5230983bfa064af67f7a.jpg)

At the very least he should be suspended and his advertisers should bail. 



BTW?  The new talking point?   

Doesn't matter who did it or why, or even if it was already there.  It sparked a much needed conversation about the hatred that permeates sport.  

Translation:  Even if a thing is fake, we can be mad about it.  
Title: Re: The Noose and NASCAR
Post by: The Six on June 23, 2020, 06:21:00 PM
There’s moving the goal posts and there’s this where the goal posts aren’t even there and the game isn’t even real. 

GGP was right...everything IS A WORK!
Title: Re: The Noose and NASCAR
Post by: GH2001 on June 23, 2020, 07:08:51 PM
Still calling it a noose. It isn’t. Never was. Just like there never was an “it”. Over. Disgraceful. 
Title: Re: The Noose and NASCAR
Post by: Kaos on June 23, 2020, 08:51:24 PM
Still calling it a noose. It isn’t. Never was. Just like there never was an “it”. Over. Disgraceful.
You should accept the fact just because this noose was already there, that doesn’t make it any less intimidating. Just because this one wasn’t on purpose, doesn’t mean white people all over this country aren’t sitting around knitting nooses right this very minute.  Dumbo Wallace is a courageous and admirable hero for calling out this pervasive racism.  He should be lauded.  Celebrated even, for his strength in the face of a garage door pull.  Just because it didn’t happen (and never does) doesn’t mean it doesn’t matter. Doesn’t mean you can’t be outraged. Doesn’t mean you can’t be traumatized.  Oh. The humanity.


In other news?  Jussie Wallace... I mean Bubba Smollett...   I mean ..... errr..... The Cardiff Racer.... whatever..... his mother has shifted the conversation.  "Other racers called him n***er!!"   Forget the garage door pull, the real horror here is a WORD that nobody ever heard anyone use.  
Title: Re: The Noose and NASCAR
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 23, 2020, 10:24:53 PM
I have been hung all of my life.
Title: Re: The Noose and NASCAR
Post by: The Six on June 24, 2020, 07:48:21 AM
Next thing NASCAR will want to replace is the chains used to pull cars in tow or lift engines because chains are related to slavery.

We are far beyond 1984, Brave New World, Another Brick in the Wall territory. Rod Serling wishes he was this creative.
Title: Re: The Noose and NASCAR
Post by: Buzz Killington on June 24, 2020, 09:28:02 AM
How long before we hear that the pull was yelling "MAGA Bitch!"?
Title: Re: The Noose and NASCAR
Post by: Snaggletiger on June 24, 2020, 09:56:27 AM
Yeah, Bubba is still calling it a "Straight up noose".  He has to.  The embarrassment for him and Nascar is probably overwhelming at this point.  But hey, they really tried to cash in on this "movement", just like everybody else, including Auburn.

Title: Re: The Noose and NASCAR
Post by: Kaos on June 24, 2020, 10:50:23 AM
Yeah, Bubba is still calling it a "Straight up noose".  He has to.  The embarrassment for him and Nascar is probably overwhelming at this point.  But hey, they really tried to cash in on this "movement", just like everybody else, including Auburn.
“It doesn’t matter if we provide 100 percent facts and evidence, photo evidence, people are going to photoshop to make me look like the bad person in the end of the day. I will always have haters. I will always have the motivators to go out there and try to dethrone me from the pedestal I’m on.”

1) Proof doesn't matter.  It photoshop. 
2) Arrogant much? He's on a pedestal?  Riiiiiigggght. 
3) First he claimed he didn't see it. Then he said he did. Later he said it was hanging "over his car" but then switched back to not having seen it.  Then he said it was benign and not aimed at him, but he was still outraged.  

Fuck him.  Fuck nascar.    

This guy should be suspended from racing.  In a world where true justice existed -- instead of this sham that people claim is justice -- he would suffer for making these false accusations and then refusing to back down. 
Title: Re: The Noose and NASCAR
Post by: CCTAU on June 24, 2020, 12:38:27 PM
This guy should be suspended from racing.  In a world where true justice existed -- instead of this sham that people claim is justice -- he would suffer for making these false accusations and then refusing to back down.
They can't. It would be racist to do so.

They are all doubling down.

Title: Re: The Noose and NASCAR
Post by: Kaos on June 24, 2020, 12:55:46 PM
They can't. It would be racist to do so.

They are all doubling down.
Oh GAAAWWWWDDD.  Oh GAAAWWWWWDDDDDDD!!! 

I went go get a pair of shoes out of my closet today and I was surrounded by NOOSES!!  Everywhere I looked, I saw looped pieces of string. Every single pair of shoes I own have been turned into hateful symbols of oppression.  

I don't care that no one has been in my closet but me.  It doesn't matter that my shoes have been like that for years and years.  I know a straight up noose when I see one.  

Does anybody know Don Lemon's schedule?  I need to be on his show.  I can cry on air.  (Do they pay people to be on there?  Asking for a friend.)  

I tell you this, they can't break me.  Haters gonna talk about shoe laces and how that's some kind of normal thing.   The dementors gonna try to knock me off my pestilence.  I won't be deferred!!  Come at me bro.  We see you.  The true warriors out there know my indignity.  
Title: Re: The Noose and NASCAR
Post by: CCTAU on June 24, 2020, 01:26:59 PM
Somebody call the FBI.

Title: Re: The Noose and NASCAR
Post by: The Six on June 24, 2020, 02:04:36 PM
This dude is steering right into the swerve.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EbS1YSWWkAYV1tF?format=jpg&name=small)

Not even hiding how much of a "work" this all is.
Title: Re: The Noose and NASCAR
Post by: Kaos on June 24, 2020, 02:05:44 PM
Somebody call the FBI.
Alert the hate crimes unit.  

Flammable cross-burning liquid located in nascar bays.  

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Title: Re: The Noose and NASCAR
Post by: Kaos on June 24, 2020, 02:11:44 PM
This dude is steering right into the swerve.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EbS1YSWWkAYV1tF?format=jpg&name=small)

Not even hiding how much of a "work" this all is.
Screw this jackass.  

What could the "alternatives have been?"  

All he's saying here is "man, its a good thing that wasn't real because man, if it was, and you know, it probably is all over the place because I know white folks are all sitting at home right now making nooses, but I got to be famous, and you can't criticize me now because if you do, you're racist."  

Screw nascar for freaking out like a bitch, too. 
Title: Re: The Noose and NASCAR
Post by: GH2001 on June 24, 2020, 10:18:15 PM
Screw this jackass. 

What could the "alternatives have been?" 

All he's saying here is "man, its a good thing that wasn't real because man, if it was, and you know, it probably is all over the place because I know white folks are all sitting at home right now making nooses, but I got to be famous, and you can't criticize me now because if you do, you're racist." 

Screw nascar for freaking out like a bitch, too.
“What the alternatives could have been...”

wow. He’s still pretending this had a chance of being real. 
Title: Re: The Noose and NASCAR
Post by: CCTAU on June 25, 2020, 11:11:06 AM
Call in the FBI...again.